Bede2u:
[s] i will tell u this b4 i sleep. U sound like u know history...thats is why u will understand this.

Dont ever discount the posibility that kanu can be the guy that unites the se and ss to fight together for independence.

There are SO MANY cases like that in history and they usually start like this....with many nay-sayers turned allies.
Wen i was campaigning for buhari in 2015, i hated kanu and his message.
3 yrs later, am a big fan[/s].

Funnicator:
I WILL VOTE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2019

I CAN'T KEEP COMPLAINING IGBO LAND IS MARGINALIZED WHERE AS I DO NOT VOTE.

IT IS NOT MORALLY RIGHT

I WILL VOTE IN 2019

IPOB desecrated a funeral by Ezeemo's family during the Gubernatorial campaign period in their "no referendum, no election" madness. They did the same during a mass service that Obiano attended.

That is thuggery. They even burnt down an Abia police station. They blockaded the Niger Bridge a couple of times. My dad who traveled in December 2015 didn't find that funny at all.

They were known to set up road blocks and illegal tolls to extort motorists. I haven't denied the popular grassroots support they enjoy in the East. But many of those who shut their shops did it under the fear of consequences. When security is guaranteed in these areas, plenty do sit at home but the compliance is noticeably less. I have an uncle in Nkpor who loathes IPOB, but he always shut down his shop whenever they ordered a sit-at-home cos he didn't want to risk anything.

globemoney:
A lot of non igbos and political merchants are derailing this thread. Will this cjrane2 character stop embarrassing himself everywhere[b][/b]. If you were expecting Nnamdi Kanu to automatically support Atiku, then consider yourself as Foolish. Nnamdi Kanu will Never support Atiku/Buhari. His no election mantra was before Atiku emerged.

Funnicator:


That guy is a scam.

He didn't even mention where and what he has been doing for the past one year after the abia state raid.

He didn't even mention how he escaped from Nigeria and found himself in Israel.

If you had any idea the amount this lunatic receives from igbo in the diaspora?

Shame on any igbo man supporting this lunatic and business man parading himself as freedom fighter.

veryStupidChino:

Bia, nwoke, what is your problem na? We all know that you are from the North, leave us in peace na? Ogini di

Funnicator:


That guy is a scam.

He didn't even mention where and what he has been doing for the past one year after the abia state raid.

He didn't even mention how he escaped from Nigeria and found himself in Israel.

If you had any idea the amount this lunatic receives from igbo in the diaspora?

Shame on any igbo man supporting this lunatic and business man parading himself as freedom fighter.

Ikology:


We need to send a strong message to MNK. We are no fools. He is totally alone in this dance of shame. We all know that he couldn't have escaped from Nigeria without the help of government. We ain't interested in his Biafra. Kpomkwem.

globemoney:
A lot of non igbos and political merchants are derailing this thread. Will this cjrane2 character stop embarrassing himself everywhere. If you were expecting Nnamdi Kanu to automatically support Atiku, then consider yourself as Foolish. Nnamdi Kanu will Never support Atiku/Buhari. His no election mantra was before Atiku emerged.

Juliusmalema:


Unfortunately we don't need ebonyi votes again.


Others regions can do.

nnamdijonathan:

[s]
How many people even have their PVCs in Ebonyi state? Disturbing ourselves over the number of votes from Ebonyi is total waste of time.[/s]

pazienza:


I complained of same thing, when some senseless Igbos started buying Ambode case on social media.
It's nauseating to say the least.

We just can't sit out of any event occurring in parts of Nigeria that is non of our concern.

nnamdijonathan:


May God bless you. I have been following all their annoying comments here against Nnamdi KANU, one even said he was released by Buhari. No election was declared by Nnamdi Kanu even before Atiku decamped to PDP so why would a person who claimed to be very updated say that NK is working for APC? NK speech this evening is an automatic loss for that AtikuObituary or whatever you call him and his running mate. Atiku should not waste much money on campaigns because, he is going back to Adamawa in 2019. No matter how bad you feel NK's speech was, it will surly have its effect on over 20% of all PVC holders in the east and that is "bye bye" to Atiku in 2019 because, Buhari's supporters are solidly behind him while Atiku just lost over 20% of his' without any hope of getting any reasonable amount of votes from the SW. I humbly declare #AtikuObituary dead on arrival after today. Wailing on nairaland can't save #AtikuObituary come 2019.

I don't see why because Nnamdi Kanu is pursuing his own agenda, you all would want to collectively throw him under the bus. NK is a necessary evil. It's why even after SS and MB groups cautioned IPOB not to add their regions to the revised Biafra map, same groups condemned the proscription of IPOB. Why? Because IPOB agitation bolstered the call of restructuring. Kanu called out Buhari when most people were pretending the Unclad emperor had clothes on. Kanu fueled the #BackToDaura movement when people were still hypnotized by the scam chains.

LordAdam16:
...continued

You don't always have to agree with someone. There are border communities in the US with Republican representation in the legislature who oppose Trump on immigration. Yet, when it was time to vote on Kavanaugh, they put aside their immigration differences to ensure a long-lasting conservative SCOTUS.

The republican nature is why everyone seems to be doing his own thing. Only you guys have APGA, PDP, APC, and IPOB. Inside each of these groups, there are sects that don't necessarily see eye to eye. Know your movements, choose your leaders, and set your objectives. This one where everyone seems to be going off in a different direction is unhelpful.

NW - A slight APC majority with a politically fluid minority. In 2011, this fluid minority sided with GEJ. In 2015, they sided with Buhari.
NE - Often mirrors NW.
NC - Mostly goes in one direction. 2011 GEJ. 2015 PMB. 2019 Atiku.
SW - Almost evenly split between APC and PDP, with a fluid minority that'd tilt the pendulum to one end or the other.
SS - Mainly PDP, very small but vocal minority APC, ND agitation that's apolitical (regardless of your political affiliation, the agitation is non-negotiable and central to the ND identity).
SE - A political amoeba at the moment. APGA, PDP, APC, and IPOB. Granted the majority is for PDP in national politics, but all of the division makes it difficult to chart a common, long-term political course. That's why there was voter apathy in 2015. That's why IPOB feels like a devil's advocate. That's why APC could reasonably expect to get more votes in 2019 than in 2015 even though an Igbo VP is on the ballot.

You guys need to sort this out before you guys get the presidency, if not the region wouldn't gain anything. It'd be like 2011-2015 when the region held sway in national politics but the region's elite did not do enough to bring the dividends to the region.

Nnamdi Kanu by himself is not the problem. IPOB is not the problem. The lack of coherent major movements is the problem. The all-or-nothing attitude is the problem.

Not all conservatives like Trump, the alt-right, and some of the far-right nutjobs. But all the conservatives are rallying around to take advantage of the unique opportunity presented by Trump to bolster the GOP's chances.

-Lord

pazienza:


This analysis is flawed.
Not long ago, SW states were divided between AD/ACN, PDP, and LP, whereas the entire SE was under PDP not long ago.
I wonder where you get the idea that IPOB, PDP, APGA, ACN members don't see eye to eye on Igboland. You must have us confused with Yorubaland where Awolowo AG members and Akintola NNDP members never saw eye to eye, and killed/maimed themselves in broad daylight. See, this is why I don't like non Igbos getting involved in Igbo political discussions.

Your analysis is highly flawed. No region votes in bloc in national elections than Ndiigbo. Our votes are never divided. We might have disagreements, but we are United in presidential elections.

The political amoeba I know right now are SS. APC won up to 40% votes in Edo in 2015 presidential elections, and looking at how things stand, they will get more there. Also it was Amaechi, SS that worked against GEJ and truncated his mandate. So much for SS unity. Imagine if it was an Igbo man working against Another Igboman in a national elections, what Nigerians would say. Yet Amaechi led the campaign against GEJ, and bankrolled Buhari against GEJ. SS is the perfect definition of Amoeba. A union of diametrically opposed ethnic groups forming fake unity.

SE is as united as ever. Come 2019, our voting pattern will still be unanimous.

pazienza:


This analysis is flawed.
Not long ago, SW states were divided between AD/ACN, PDP, and LP, whereas the entire SE was under PDP not long ago.
I wonder where you get the idea that IPOB, PDP, APGA, ACN members don't see eye to eye on Igboland. You must have us confused with Yorubaland where Awolowo AG members and Akintola NNDP members never saw eye to eye, and killed/maimed themselves in broad daylight. See, this is why I don't like non Igbos getting involved in Igbo political discussions.

Your analysis is highly flawed. No region votes in bloc in national elections than Ndiigbo. Our votes are never divided. We might have disagreements, but we are United in presidential elections.

The political amoeba I know right now are SS. APC won up to 40% votes in Edo in 2015 presidential elections, and looking at how things stand, they will get more there. Also it was Amaechi, SS that worked against GEJ and truncated his mandate. So much for SS unity. Imagine if it was an Igbo man working against Another Igboman in a national elections, what Nigerians would say. Yet Amaechi led the campaign against GEJ, and bankrolled Buhari against GEJ. SS is the perfect definition of Amoeba. A union of diametrically opposed ethnic groups forming fake unity.

SE is as united as ever. Come 2019, our voting pattern will still be unanimous.

LordAdam16:


It clearly flew over you. We're talking about 2019 and you're talking about the 1960's. Stick to a specific timeline.

GEJ lost more votes in the SE from voter apathy in 2015 than APC got in the SS in 2015. And maybe you have trouble comprehending simple terms or a logical viewpoint. This is not about SE unity. It is about standardizing your movements, so your region can chart a long-term political course.

I'd go over the SS position again, maybe this time you'd understand it. The SS is majorly PDP. There's a budding, solid, and vocal APC movement in the minority. Then there's the ND agitation that's apolitical. Regardless of political affiliation, every subscribes to the struggle. That's why when some nobodies who called themselves ND militants came up recently to say they'd work for Buhari, no one in the SS lost sleep over it.

Nnamdi Kanu coughed and some are already contemplating assassinating him. That's just nuts. This is an independent outlook from the outside in, using what I know of SE politics. Kanu is a fringe element. He has this much clout because there was a vacuum of leadership and no credible movements when he came on the scene. He has his merits and his demerits, and has his place. But you guys need credible movements that'd also appeal to mainstream Nigeria and guard against marginalization until Nigeria is restructured or devoluted.

This is not just about voting as a bloc. It's also about fully exploiting the potential of being on the winning team. 1999-2015, SE was voting for the winning team, how well did the region benefit? Did the SE elites do enough? How do you guys intend to take advantage of the VP position if PDP wins in 2019? How about the Presidency if you guys get it in 2023 or 2027?

This is a socio-political and economic forum no? It's not just about have a figurehead with an Igbo name.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


It clearly flew over you. We're talking about 2019 and you're talking about the 1960's. Stick to a specific timeline.

GEJ lost more votes in the SE from voter apathy in 2015 than APC got in the SS in 2015. And maybe you have trouble comprehending simple terms or a logical viewpoint. This is not about SE unity. It is about standardizing your movements, so your region can chart a long-term political course.

I'd go over the SS position again, maybe this time you'd understand it. The SS is majorly PDP. There's a budding, solid, and vocal APC movement in the minority. Then there's the ND agitation that's apolitical. Regardless of political affiliation, every subscribes to the struggle. That's why when some nobodies who called themselves ND militants came up recently to say they'd work for Buhari, no one in the SS lost sleep over it.

Nnamdi Kanu coughed and some are already contemplating assassinating him. That's just nuts. This is an independent outlook from the outside in, using what I know of SE politics. Kanu is a fringe element. He has this much clout because there was a vacuum of leadership and no credible movements when he came on the scene. He has his merits and his demerits, and has his place. But you guys need credible movements that'd also appeal to mainstream Nigeria and guard against marginalization until Nigeria is restructured or devoluted.

This is not just about voting as a bloc. It's also about fully exploiting the potential of being on the winning team. 1999-2015, SE was voting for the winning team, how well did the region benefit? Did the SE elites do enough? How do you guys intend to take advantage of the VP position if PDP wins in 2019? How about the Presidency if you guys get it in 2023 or 2027?

This is a socio-political and economic forum no? It's not just about have a figurehead with an Igbo name.

-Lord

oilyngbati:
I have been saying that the best thing that would happen to Ndigbo now is for this fool called Nnamdi kanu to be killed off. I wish the Nigerian army killed him. The guy is just too arrogant for my liking . A time when we are trying to get it right with Atiku/Obi presidential ticket, this animal came out to skuttle whatever chances we have to correct these imbalances against us. This guy is working against Igbo interst, period!
For me, I stopped believing in Biafra when these ipob kept on playing ostrich by continually dragging SS into Biafra
We are going to be stuck in the wilderness again, for donkey years, unless this kanu of a guy is killed.

Obi1kenobi:


His group are "non violent" because they lack the capacity for violence and because Igbos aren't violent people. Their rhetoric and utterances have been violent and they've severally threatened violence against the state. In any civilized country in the world, no government would tolerate incitement like that. If Fulanis were making the kind of statements Kanu and his IPOB lieutenants have been making, the nation would worry because those people have tremendous capacity and will to dish out violence.

Obi1kenobi:


If the "one man" was even worthy of it, it might be understandable. Ojukwu made a lot of mistakes (and I still believe his fleeing the civil war rather than surrendering himself was cowardly) but he was fit to lead such a movement. Here, we have some jobless, uncouth riff-raff from the UK who is clearly not a mentally balanced individual leading many people off a cliff. He has proven a long time ago that he is directionless and has no strategic thought in his head and just goes as the wind leads him. Add his whole Jewish mystique thing and you just have a clown.