Usually some Muslim Music lovers would bring this evidence "Why didn't the Prophet forbid music for the people of Medina when they welcomed him (on the occassion of Hijra).


In a lecture titled "Popular but Unreliable Stories Series IV Part I" by Aboo Naasir (Hafidhahu-Llaah) Uploaded on Rabee'u ath-Thaani 13, 1434, (23rd February, 2013), He related:

"As children in the Madrasah, we were delighted to be told that scintillating crowds of men and women thronged the streets of Madinah on the event of the arrival of the Prophet, Muhammad (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) to the city, singing “their welcome in a song that even now is sung by Muslims in memory of that happy day” that: “Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’/ wajaba ash-shukru ‘alaynaa; maada’aa li-llaahidaa’in” [meaning: The full moon has appeared before us; from the departure mountain-pass/ We must give thanks; whenever the supplicant beseeches Allah].

However, this age-long, immensely popular rhyme is a baseless ascription to the event in its chain and text!

According to the great scholar of hadith, Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaanee, the song has been related by Aboo Sa’eed in Sharaf al-Mustapha and al-Khal’ee in al-Fawaaid with a chain of reporters on the authority of ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha who narrated the story. [Fath al-Baaree 7/326].

Similarly, Imam al-Bayhaqee (rahimahullah) cited it in Dalaail an-Nubuwwah (2/506-7). [See al-Bidayah wan-Nihaayah 2/202, Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. But ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha, on whose authority the story was reported is a 10th category reporter; i.e., those who did not even meet the Tabi’een. He died 228 years after the Hijrah and was as such, at least 120 yrs away from the event of the Hijrah making absolutely clear, the wide broken link between the narrator and the narration. Therefore:

a. Hafidh Ibn Hajar (d. 852 AH) ruled that, “It is a Mu’dal, Faulty, chain.” [Fath al-Baaree 7/327].

b. His teacher, Hafidh al-‘Iraaqee (d. 806AH) also said, “The statement of Ibn ‘Aa’isha is Mu’dal, Faulty; it cannot be depended on as evidence.” [Al-Mawaahib al-Laduniyyah 1/313].

c. Imam Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee [d. 1420] said, “...but it is Mu’dal, Faulty; three or more reporters are missing in the chain of report...” [Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. See also, TahreemAalaat at-Tarb (pg. 123).

d. Dr. AkramDiyaa al-‘Umaree said, “As for those reports which show that he was welcomed with the song: Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’, no authentic chain has transmitted that.” [As-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah as-Saheehah 1/219].

e. Dr. Anees bin Ahmad al-Indoneesee after a detailed study of the chains of report that transmitted the rhyme in a separate research work concluded that, “It becomes clear from a detailed analysis of the chains of report that transmit the rhyme that it is not authentic because its chain is unreliable and the text is irregular.” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 43].

f. Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdullah al-‘Ushan included this rhyme in his book: Maashaa’awalamyathbut fee as-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah (Popular But Unreliable Reports Cited in the Prophet’s Biography) pg. 87-90.

As regards its text, Shaykh Muhammad bin Muhammad Hasan is among the researching scholars who analyzed the text of the rhyme and concluded that, “the rhyme is flimsy and fragile, it does not befit the style of speech of the period to which it is ascribed; it is perhaps, among the poems of the third century after Hijrah.” He also queried, “How could the people of Madeenah have said: ...sharrafta al-Madinah [meaning – you came to honour Madinah] while Madinah was only so named after Allah’s Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) arrived there?! Its name which they knew amongst them then was Yathrib!” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 12-13].

So, even though it is popular, it is not reliable to ascribe this rhyme to the event of the Prophet’s Hijrah – peace and blessings be upon him." How then did the people of Madinah receive the noble Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam)? Click here for the Answer.

Source

JazaakumuLLāh khairan jazaa

I heard all the ahadeeth that says the prophet was welcomed with music are all daeef.
I'm more convinced in the Hadith. If at all historically it happened that He was welcomed, it was the ahlul kitab that did so and not the Muslims.

JazaakumuLLāh khairan jazaa

AbdulHakeem44:
JazaakumuLLāh khairan jazaa

I heard all the ahadeeth that says the prophet was welcomed with music are all daeef.
I'm more convinced in the Hadith. If at all historically it happened that He was welcomed, it was the ahlul kitab that did so and not the Muslims.

What about that Bandiri drum I see many students from different madrasah drumming them sometime ago .
I’m confused really

Jazakumullahu khayr

Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

Alepa:

What about that Bandiri drum I see many students from different madrasah drumming them sometime ago .
I’m confused really

either they are ignorant of what they are doing or they are people of desire.

iPopAlomo:
Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

did people start telling lies or fabricating events that never happened in the 20th century?

Rashduct4luv:
Usually some Muslim Music lovers would bring this evidence "Why didn't the Prophet forbid music for the people of Medina when they welcomed him (on the occassion of Hijra).


In a lecture titled "Popular but Unreliable Stories Series IV Part I" by Aboo Naasir (Hafidhahu-Llaah) Uploaded on Rabee'u ath-Thaani 13, 1434, (23rd February, 2013), He related:

"As children in the Madrasah, we were delighted to be told that scintillating crowds of men and women thronged the streets of Madinah on the event of the arrival of the Prophet, Muhammad (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) to the city, singing “their welcome in a song that even now is sung by Muslims in memory of that happy day” that: “Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’/ wajaba ash-shukru ‘alaynaa; maada’aa li-llaahidaa’in” [meaning: The full moon has appeared before us; from the departure mountain-pass/ We must give thanks; whenever the supplicant beseeches Allah].

However, this age-long, immensely popular rhyme is a baseless ascription to the event in its chain and text!

According to the great scholar of hadith, Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaanee, the song has been related by Aboo Sa’eed in Sharaf al-Mustapha and al-Khal’ee in al-Fawaaid with a chain of reporters on the authority of ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha who narrated the story. [Fath al-Baaree 7/326].

Similarly, Imam al-Bayhaqee (rahimahullah) cited it in Dalaail an-Nubuwwah (2/506-7). [See al-Bidayah wan-Nihaayah 2/202, Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. But ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha, on whose authority the story was reported is a 10th category reporter; i.e., those who did not even meet the Tabi’een. He died 228 years after the Hijrah and was as such, at least 120 yrs away from the event of the Hijrah making absolutely clear, the wide broken link between the narrator and the narration. Therefore:

a. Hafidh Ibn Hajar (d. 852 AH) ruled that, “It is a Mu’dal, Faulty, chain.” [Fath al-Baaree 7/327].

b. His teacher, Hafidh al-‘Iraaqee (d. 806AH) also said, “The statement of Ibn ‘Aa’isha is Mu’dal, Faulty; it cannot be depended on as evidence.” [Al-Mawaahib al-Laduniyyah 1/313].

c. Imam Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee [d. 1420] said, “...but it is Mu’dal, Faulty; three or more reporters are missing in the chain of report...” [Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. See also, TahreemAalaat at-Tarb (pg. 123).

d. Dr. AkramDiyaa al-‘Umaree said, “As for those reports which show that he was welcomed with the song: Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’, no authentic chain has transmitted that.” [As-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah as-Saheehah 1/219].

e. Dr. Anees bin Ahmad al-Indoneesee after a detailed study of the chains of report that transmitted the rhyme in a separate research work concluded that, “It becomes clear from a detailed analysis of the chains of report that transmit the rhyme that it is not authentic because its chain is unreliable and the text is irregular.” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 43].

f. Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdullah al-‘Ushan included this rhyme in his book: Maashaa’awalamyathbut fee as-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah (Popular But Unreliable Reports Cited in the Prophet’s Biography) pg. 87-90.

As regards its text, Shaykh Muhammad bin Muhammad Hasan is among the researching scholars who analyzed the text of the rhyme and concluded that, “the rhyme is flimsy and fragile, it does not befit the style of speech of the period to which it is ascribed; it is perhaps, among the poems of the third century after Hijrah.” He also queried, “How could the people of Madeenah have said: ...sharrafta al-Madinah [meaning – you came to honour Madinah] while Madinah was only so named after Allah’s Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) arrived there?! Its name which they knew amongst them then was Yathrib!” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 12-13].

So, even though it is popular, it is not reliable to ascribe this rhyme to the event of the Prophet’s Hijrah – peace and blessings be upon him." How then did the people of Madinah receive the noble Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam)? Click here for the Answer.

Source

Ok

dragnet:

did people start telling lies or fabricating events that never happened in the 20th century?

Oga... read the post again... but this time... slowly...

iPopAlomo:
Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

We have used it and that we believe that Prophet Muhammad sallah Allahu alae Wa salam was not welcome with music. However, assuming it was true that doesn't mean music is allowed.
At beginning of Islam alcohol was allowed but later became harram. Therefore, the claim that prophet was welcome with music doesn't mean it is not haram in Islam.

iPopAlomo:
Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

Jazakallahu Khairan. dis is exactly what i also kip wondering about. d people of 1500years afta are condeming dat 200years afta Hijrah. but all d way sha. May Allah guide us to d right path and may He accept all our deed as an act of Ibadah. JUMAT MUBARAQ

Allahu Akbar .Jazaakum Allahu Khair .

Rashduct4luv:
Usually some Muslim Music lovers would bring this evidence "Why didn't the Prophet forbid music for the people of Medina when they welcomed him (on the occassion of Hijra).


In a lecture titled "Popular but Unreliable Stories Series IV Part I" by Aboo Naasir (Hafidhahu-Llaah) Uploaded on Rabee'u ath-Thaani 13, 1434, (23rd February, 2013), He related:

"As children in the Madrasah, we were delighted to be told that scintillating crowds of men and women thronged the streets of Madinah on the event of the arrival of the Prophet, Muhammad (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) to the city, singing “their welcome in a song that even now is sung by Muslims in memory of that happy day” that: “Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’/ wajaba ash-shukru ‘alaynaa; maada’aa li-llaahidaa’in” [meaning: The full moon has appeared before us; from the departure mountain-pass/ We must give thanks; whenever the supplicant beseeches Allah].

However, this age-long, immensely popular rhyme is a baseless ascription to the event in its chain and text!

According to the great scholar of hadith, Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalaanee, the song has been related by Aboo Sa’eed in Sharaf al-Mustapha and al-Khal’ee in al-Fawaaid with a chain of reporters on the authority of ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha who narrated the story. [Fath al-Baaree 7/326].

Similarly, Imam al-Bayhaqee (rahimahullah) cited it in Dalaail an-Nubuwwah (2/506-7). [See al-Bidayah wan-Nihaayah 2/202, Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. But ‘Ubaydullah bin ‘Aa’isha, on whose authority the story was reported is a 10th category reporter; i.e., those who did not even meet the Tabi’een. He died 228 years after the Hijrah and was as such, at least 120 yrs away from the event of the Hijrah making absolutely clear, the wide broken link between the narrator and the narration. Therefore:

a. Hafidh Ibn Hajar (d. 852 AH) ruled that, “It is a Mu’dal, Faulty, chain.” [Fath al-Baaree 7/327].

b. His teacher, Hafidh al-‘Iraaqee (d. 806AH) also said, “The statement of Ibn ‘Aa’isha is Mu’dal, Faulty; it cannot be depended on as evidence.” [Al-Mawaahib al-Laduniyyah 1/313].

c. Imam Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee [d. 1420] said, “...but it is Mu’dal, Faulty; three or more reporters are missing in the chain of report...” [Silsilat ad-Da’eefah 2/63]. See also, TahreemAalaat at-Tarb (pg. 123).

d. Dr. AkramDiyaa al-‘Umaree said, “As for those reports which show that he was welcomed with the song: Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna; min Thaniyyatil-Wadaa’, no authentic chain has transmitted that.” [As-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah as-Saheehah 1/219].

e. Dr. Anees bin Ahmad al-Indoneesee after a detailed study of the chains of report that transmitted the rhyme in a separate research work concluded that, “It becomes clear from a detailed analysis of the chains of report that transmit the rhyme that it is not authentic because its chain is unreliable and the text is irregular.” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 43].

f. Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdullah al-‘Ushan included this rhyme in his book: Maashaa’awalamyathbut fee as-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah (Popular But Unreliable Reports Cited in the Prophet’s Biography) pg. 87-90.

As regards its text, Shaykh Muhammad bin Muhammad Hasan is among the researching scholars who analyzed the text of the rhyme and concluded that, “the rhyme is flimsy and fragile, it does not befit the style of speech of the period to which it is ascribed; it is perhaps, among the poems of the third century after Hijrah.” He also queried, “How could the people of Madeenah have said: ...sharrafta al-Madinah [meaning – you came to honour Madinah] while Madinah was only so named after Allah’s Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam) arrived there?! Its name which they knew amongst them then was Yathrib!” [Tala’a al-badru ‘alayna: DiraasatunHadeethiyatun li al-Khabar wan-Nasheed pg. 12-13].

So, even though it is popular, it is not reliable to ascribe this rhyme to the event of the Prophet’s Hijrah – peace and blessings be upon him." How then did the people of Madinah receive the noble Messenger (sallallaahualayhiwasallam)? Click here for the Answer.

Source

Shafiiimran99:
We have used it and that we believe that Prophet Muhammad sallah Allahu alae Wa salam was not welcome with music. However, assuming it was true that doesn't mean music is allowed.
At beginning of Islam alcohol was allowed but later became harram. Therefore, the claim that prophet was welcome with music doesn't mean it is not haram in Islam.

Does this make sense to you...?

iPopAlomo:
Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

Who was/were this/these someone(s)? Was the occurrence related by any reliable source? Do bring your proof please, if you don't have any other than heresays, I suggest you stop making baseless conclusions as regards the Deen. Afterall, I believe you know how big an offence lying against the prophet is?

Alepa:

What about that Bandiri drum I see many students from different madrasah drumming them sometime ago .
I’m confused really

Do not be confused brother, these guys just like to fabricate things just to justify their wrong doings.

olarid01:


Who was/were this/these someone(s)? Was the occurrence related by any reliable source? Do bring your proof please, if you don't have any other than heresays, I suggest you stop making baseless conclusions as regards the Deen. Afterall, I believe you know how big an offence lying against the prophet is?

Hanhan... did you read the post... or you just jump straight at the comment to attack me...? Oga ade... read the post... this time around... FARABALE read the post then come back with a logical question...


Salaam Alaekum my nigga man...

iPopAlomo:



Hanhan... did you read the post... or you just jump straight at the comment to attack me...? Oga ade... read the post... this time around... FARABALE read the post then come back with a logical question...


Salaam Alaekum my nigga man...

Wa alykum salam. I don't really get your point man, I asked a simple question, or is it too difficult to answer?

iPopAlomo:




Oga... read the post again... but this time... slowly...

you should take your own advice, even "scientific facts" get disproved after due verification and how many times have stories been reported but later found to be mere concocted tales.

dragnet:

you should take your own advice, even "scientific facts" get disproved after due verification and how many times have stories been reported but later found to be mere concocted tales.

Are we likening history to science now...? are they the same thing...?? I was not there... you were not there... you believe the Qur'an hook line and sinker... but you were not there... you read the words and believe... what if... just what if... it's a concocted tale...

By now... you should see where I am going... and that's my advice... did they sing... did they dance... I don't know... you don't too... but one guy said no... that wasn't there... and voila... I should believe him too... Haba bros...

olarid01:


Wa alykum salam. I don't really get your point man, I asked a simple question, or is it too difficult to answer?

No... your question wasn't simple... in fact... it was hostile to begin with... I didn't make any conclusions... but because I could ask question about your scholars... you're ready to decapitate me...

Lemme explain my point simpler to you.... as your blood is red hot...

Without mentioning names of the people involve... here I go...

A narrator 200 years after the prophet entered Medina did he was welcomed with music and dance... now... 1200 years after that narration... Someone said the narration is disjointed... Shay you're following...? good..??

The earlier narrator and the latter narrator... who do you think was telling the truth... now go back and read my posts... and this time... FARA-BURUKU-BALE!!!

iPopAlomo:



Are we likening history to science now...? are they the same thing...?? I was not there... you were not there... you believe the Qur'an hook line and sinker... but you were not there... you read the words and believe... what if... just what if... it's a concocted tale...

By now... you should see where I am going... and that's my advice... did they sing... did they dance... I don't know... you done too... but one guy said no... that wasn't there... and voila... I should believe him too... Haba bros...

did I put a gun to your head to believe him?
you're responsible enough to make your own deductions and I am responsible for my own deductions, at the end every individual is accountable for his/her actions.

dragnet:

did I put a gun to your head to believe him?
you're responsible enough to make your own deductions and I am responsible for my own deductions, at the end every individual is accountable for his/her actions.

Then you should have followed your own advice instead of quoting me... you Muslims are funny... like I ever forced you to reply my post...

iPopAlomo:



No... your question wasn't simple... in fact... it was hostile to begin with... I didn't make any conclusions... but because I could ask question about your scholars... you're ready to decapitate me...

Lemme explain my point simpler to you.... as your blood is red hot...

Without mentioning names of the people involve... here I go...

A narrator 200 years after the prophet entered Medina did he was welcomed with music and dance... now... 1200 years after that narration... Someone said the narration is disjointed... Shay you're following...? good..??

The earlier narrator and the latter narrator... who do you think was telling the truth... now go back and read my posts... and this time... FARA-BURUKU-BALE!!!

You, know I was tempted to leave you be, but....

Walai my question is not hostile at all, all what I'm asking is who is that ealier narrator? Is he a relaible source? Simple.
Bearing in mind that we muslims are not goat to be herded, whenever someone comes with a narration(no matter who that person is, except the prophet and is ashab), we must ask what/who the source is.....

iPopAlomo:




Then you should have followed your own advice instead of quoting me... you Muslims are funny... like I ever forced you to reply my post...

my response to you was a simple question to the faulty logic you posited.

iPopAlomo:



No... your question wasn't simple... in fact... it was hostile to begin with... I didn't make any conclusions... but because I could ask question about your scholars... you're ready to decapitate me...

Lemme explain my point simpler to you.... as your blood is red hot...

Without mentioning names of the people involve... here I go...

A narrator 200 years after the prophet entered Medina did he was welcomed with music and dance... now... 1200 years after that narration... Someone said the narration is disjointed... Shay you're following...? good..??

The earlier narrator and the latter narrator... who do you think was telling the truth... now go back and read my posts... and this time... FARA-BURUKU-BALE!!!

A narrator from 200 years ago can be a liar or make mistakes in/during compilation. In Islam, texts are usually preserved with chains of transmission.

i.e. A related from B that he heard C said D said so and so!

Where A, B, C, & D are people whose memory durability and honesty can be traced!

The narrator from 200 years ago can make mistake which a later narrator/researcher can find out!

iPopAlomo:
Someone that was around 200 years close to the period it happened said they sang and danced...

Someone from the 20th century said it's a lie... they didn't sing and dance...

Muslims... please use your brains in this instance... if you're doubting the history of people singing and dancing to welcome Mohammed PBUH... because it wasn't narrated by three people... Will the 20th century guy have any right to actually tell how the prophet was welcomed to Medina...?

the 21st century scholars would tell you anything for the attention. They want to make you feel some messages were left unpassed.

Alepa:

What about that Bandiri drum I see many students from different madrasah drumming them sometime ago .
I’m confused really

There is no authentic report that that event actually happened.

On the Daff drum, it is to be beaten by females only.

Al-Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There will be among my ummah people who will regard adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as permissible.”

This hadeeth indicates that all musical instruments are haraam, including the daff.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The daff is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222

But there are some ahaadeeth which indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in some circumstances, which are:

Eid, weddings, and when one who has been away returns.

The evidence is given below.

1 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) entered upon her and there were two girls with her during the days of Mina beating the daff, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was covering himself with his garment. Abu Bakr rebuked them, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) uncovered his face and said, “Leave them alone, O Abu Bakr, for these are the days of Eid.” That was during the days of Mina.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 944; Muslim, 892

2 – It was narrated that al-Rubayyi’ bint Mu’awwidh ibn ‘Afra’ said: “After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the daff and reciting verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, ‘Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow.’ On that the Prophet said, ‘Omit this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before.’”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4852).

3 – It was narrated that Buraydah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out on one of his military campaigns, and when he came back, a black slave woman came and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I vowed that if Allaah brought you back safe and sound, I would beat the daff before you and sing. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “If you vowed that, then do it, otherwise do not do it.’” So she started to beat the daff, and Abu Bakr came in whilst she was doing so. Then ‘Ali came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Uthmaan came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Umar came in and she threw the daff beneath her and sat on it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The Shaytaan is afraid of you, O ‘Umar. I was sitting and she was beating the daff, then Abu Bakr came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Ali came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Uthmaan came in when she was beating the daff, but when you came in, O ‘Umar, she put the daff down.”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3690; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2913.



The correct view is that it is not permissible to beat the daff except for women. If a man does that, he is imitating women, which is a major sin.

Rashduct4luv:



A narrator from 200 years ago can be a liar or make mistakes in/during compilation. In Islam, texts are usually preserved with chains of transmission.

i.e. A related from B that he heard C said D said so and so!

Where A, B, C, & D are people whose memory durability and honesty can be traced!

The narrator from 200 years ago can make mistake which a later narrator/researcher can find out!

Pray tell... How will the researcher find out...?!!!

AbdulHakeem44:
JazaakumuLLāh khairan jazaa

I heard all the ahadeeth that says the prophet was welcomed with music are all daeef.
I'm more convinced in the Hadith. If at all historically it happened that He was welcomed, it was the ahlul kitab that did so and not the Muslims.

I thought he was being welcomed for the first time? I don’t think the inhabitants of Madinnah at the time were muslims; which is even more a justification for the Prophet (SAW) to hv allowed it. He wouldn’t hv prohibited music straight away when he was seeking shelter with them... would he? It’s common sense!