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Re: . by Nobody: 11:20pm On Oct 27, 2018
pazienza:


Ofcourse, in diaspora where they don't have much of their people to form association, they have to settle for the next option, which is Ndiigbo. It's only normal. Those same Diasporan Ikwerres when they return home and join their people in Rivers, would quickly revert to their Igbophobic nature.

It's sickening honestly.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 11:25pm On Oct 27, 2018
Tushkito:


It's sickening honestly.

Enwero ife mmadu ayaro afulu ndia.
Ikegwuru nnoo.

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Re: . by iLoveAnambra(m): 12:08am On Oct 28, 2018
oilPUSSY:

The way I am seeing this Ikwere stuff, it seems that those that are rejecting that Igbo tag are louder, I don't know if they are in majority or minority.
Then when it comes to issue of you seeing an Ikwere man outside Nigeria joining Ipob, that one is certain because some of them join igbo organisations and Igbos to have a voice. Not only Ikwere, I have seen some non igbos in SS joining Igbo union in diaspora including IPOB.

In fact, this Ikwere saga is complicated and should be treated as inconsequential case.
Are IkwereS up-to 4 million?
4 local govts and dey dont even travel.. is hard to see dem in Lagos, Enugu, Abuja, Aba, Onitsha or Owerri..

their Population should be Roughly 600,000-800,000

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Re: . by horsepower101: 12:18am On Oct 28, 2018
Tushkito:


It's sickening honestly.

Its makes my blood boil when some groups treat Igbo identity like a uniform that they can wear whenever they choose. It must end with our Generation.

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Re: . by babacletus: 1:25am On Oct 28, 2018
An Igbo man will make a statement like this

Bede2u:


We can negotiate with fg to gv us those 3 lgas which are Oyigbo, khana and opobo lgs.

And another Igbo man will say this

mightguy:
lol. U don't understand the kind of resentment this people have. It is not jst hating.. They hate any thing progress as far as Igbo is concern. Do you think they will agree. Their mind ave been coded and programmed to hate Igbo.. River port is better

And still ask why Rivers people hate Igbo, may God help you all
Re: . by Xander85: 1:42am On Oct 28, 2018
Proposed Okija Guest House, Anambra, by Obijackson group.

Courtesy KMA Architects:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P75wClA6VU

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Re: . by Xander85: 1:50am On Oct 28, 2018
There are few people i have such confidence in that when they announce a project to be built, i go to bed safe in the knowledge that there's a 90% chance it will be built! ObiJackson and Dr Maduka of Umuchukwu are two of such people!

The attached 3-D rendering looks nice, and after seeing what his company has put up in Lagos and Okija, i have no doubt this one too will keep faith with what's shown in the render!

It kinda reminds me of the Bonny Island JV Camp!

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Re: . by Nobody: 4:23am On Oct 28, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


The SW are in a governing coalition with the North as co-founders of APC. They have labored to bring APC this far. Igbos positioned themselves as the main opposition to APC and have contributed little to the party at national level. Everyone knew there was never any way that they would hand over power to Igbos in 2023. The rotation as it is for the presidency is between the North and South. The SW would feel eligible to contest the Presidency in 2023. Also, these theories about the SW's political oblivion don't hold any water. The core North who loathe Igbos more than any other group in the country will certainly pick a Yoruba over an Igbo in the current political climate. This is the time for Igbos to be making overtures to the Middle Belt and Niger Delta. Complacency about the SW's political oblivion is a gift for Yorubas.
All you said about the SW contributing to the arm and purse of APC is correct. And if it's by earning the slot by virtue of their contribution to the APC, then they sure deserve it. The APC can gift their Presidential position to the SW come 2023 but that won't amount to victory.
Earning a prize in Nigeria political sphere is no longer attainable. The era where the SW won by sympathy is gone, because every zone can attest to the fact that only the Igbo this time deserves such sympathy and no one else. The SW will have to test their political clout this time to win any presidential election.
If it's by national acceptance or popularity, name one SW politician that can win elections in the north? Is it Tinubu? Who I see a man like Rochas beating with a landslide or even Kalu give a walkover. Many of you tend to underrate the political spread of SEasterners in the north, why overrate that of the Yorubas. Especially looking at the manner at which you just evaluate our political advantage.
Who informed you that Igbos are hated by the northern political class? Or did you buy that from Lagos - Ibadan expressway media or IPOB propaganda. If truly Igbos are hated by the northern elites, why then did Zik's NPP win in two northern states in 1979 while Awolowo's UPN failed to even win an ordinary state HOR seat in the same north. If we were hated and the Yorubas loved, why then was Ekwueme picked as vice in NPN and not a Yoruba by the northerners.
If the Yorubas were loved by the northern, why then did they annulled Abiola's mandate in 1992. If they were loved by the north in 1998, why didn't they - the northern elites support Olu Falae the chosen Yoruba candidate instead of Obasanjo handpicked by IBB.
If the Igbos in turn were hated by the north why did Yar'adua work wholeheartedly with us when he was running for Presidency. Are you aware that the likes of Rochas and NOI emerged 2nd and 3rd during the primaries while the bulk of the Yorubas pitched their tent with ACN during that same election year. And do not forget that during all these time, IPOB madness hasn't escalated this far.
So tell me where this so-called north that loathe Igbos is coming from because it's surprising to me. The north for all I care only put themselves first before others. That is why a northerner in the presidential polls is always a big threat to any southerner contesting too. But in the absence of a northerner, I dare say it again, bring Tinubu any day and bring a Rochas or Kalu as his opponent and you'll be shocked to see the demystication of the Jagaban. I bet you that same north you say that love the Yorubas will throw their votes behind either their brothers or an Igbo man.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 5:04am On Oct 28, 2018
iLoveAnambra:
4 local govts and dey dont even travel.. is hard to see dem in Lagos, Enugu, Abuja, Aba, Onitsha or Owerri..

their Population should be Roughly 600,000-800,000

Who dash dem 4 LGAs?

It's 3 and half.

1. Emohua
2. Ikwerre
3. Obio/Akpor

They share PHLGA with Okrika people.

That's the current situation.

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Re: . by TEDHorsePower: 7:05am On Oct 28, 2018
nnamdijonathan:


.... .


Are you out of your mind? Just because he kept deceiving people here with just govt house surroundings while 98% of the town are in total mess? Maybe you mean capital of wawa people. Start with condition of schools firstly.

http://xclusivenigeria.com/index.php/component/k2/item/2478-shame-of-enugu-state-do-you-call-this-a-school-a-photo-album-of-the-looting-of-our-children-s-future-by-thieving-politicians

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Re: . by TEDHorsePower: 7:14am On Oct 28, 2018
THE South South Atiku/Obi Support Base has concluded plans to meet with some traditional rulers, especially the traditional priests in the creeks of South South to seek for their support for Alhaji Atiku Abubakar election. Mr Peter Obi and PDP Presidential candidate, Atiku This was disclosed in a press statement by King Para Ekiyes and Barr. E K.Ebis, chairman & publicity secretary of the group in Warri,yesterday. “We have made a special request to them and they have graciously granted our request, also some ex-militant leaders have accepted our audience. “We will deliver the region to Atiku/Obi and the People’s Democratic Party, PDP, it should be made clear that we are not supporting Atiku because of money but because of his capability. “It is rather the hardship and neglect of the region that made us to resolve that we need someone trusted like Atiku with economic understanding to take over the affairs of the country. “We from the South South should speak with one voice for Atiku, because Nigeria deserves a great leader.”
http://mognews.com/2018/10/28/group-in-southeast-mobilize-traditional-rulers-ex-militants-for-atiku/
Re: . by HopeAtHand: 8:05am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


Obigbo is Igboland. It is and will always be.
Last time I checked, you are an Ikwerre and your Ikwerre land is landlocked. When and if the Ijaws get their Oil Rivers state proposal approved,your eyes will clear.
Inasmuch as I'm not insupport of adding Ogoniland to Igboland, the point had to be made that you are neither Ogoni nor spokesperson for Ogoni people, so you might just need to stay in your Bini Ikwerreland and stay off this thread.


How do you say Ikwerre is landlocked when they have a port on their land? Or is the Port Harcourt wharf, the basis for which the city got its name in Igboland?

Its funny how you know this and still write what you want. Its not like being landlocked translates to hopelessness. So kini big deal?
Re: . by Nobody: 8:26am On Oct 28, 2018
HopeAtHand:



How do you say Ikwerre is landlocked when they have a port on their land? Or is the Port Harcourt wharf, the basis [s]for which the city got its name in Igboland?
[/s]
Its funny how you know this and still write what you want. Its not like being landlocked translates to hopelessness. So kini big deal?

Ikwerre is not Igbo land.

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Re: . by Nobody: 8:32am On Oct 28, 2018
Funnicator:


Ikwerre is not Igbo land.


Ebonyi is not igboland.


Ikwerre is more of igbo thann Ebonyi.

Amaechi is an igbo name and quite understadable
Chibuilke is igbo name...

What is the meaning of Umahi?
What is the meaning of ogba?
What the meaning of uhuo?

The truth is clear.
Re: . by oilPUSSY(f): 8:49am On Oct 28, 2018
iLoveAnambra:
4 local govts and dey dont even travel.. is hard to see dem in Lagos, Enugu, Abuja, Aba, Onitsha or Owerri..

their Population should be Roughly 600,000-800,000
If these people are not up-to one million then why the noise?
We should focus on those Igbos groups in SS that are always proud of their igbo heritage not ikwere people. We have other two bigger ethnic groups to slug it out with in Nigeria not ikwere because it's a total waste of time and energy killing an ant with a hammer.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:24am On Oct 28, 2018
HopeAtHand:



How do you say Ikwerre is landlocked when they have a port on their land? Or is the Port Harcourt wharf, the basis for which the city got its name in Igboland?

Its funny how you know this and still write what you want. Its not like being landlocked translates to hopelessness. So kini big deal?

It's a river port.
Ikwerre has no sea coast.
You can only access the sea via Rivers controlled by Ijaws down South.
Your situation isn't different from those of Ndiigbo.
This will become clearer once Nigeria is restructured and Ijaws get oil Rivers state they clamour for.

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Re: . by OpenYourEyes1: 9:25am On Oct 28, 2018
We need to let the ikwerre be.
I kind of understand why some don't want to be associated with the Igbo family. It's human nature. Insulting them will only make things worse. I guess they are trying to survive or avoid being tyrannized by men of lawlessness. It is a cowardly approach unfortunately but what can we do.



Back to the topic...

— I think we should explore new ways to develop our lands. Some suggested the use of ICO (Initial Coin Offering) to develop the real estate and other important Industries. The good thing about ICO is that people anywhere in the world can easily buy into your token/project especially If you are honest, transparent and a good Real Estate developer/entrepreneur. If you build your Estate and it is doing well your company's token will increase in price... The token thing is a bit more like shares in Stock Market, only difference is that it can be used as currency.
As your token keeps going up in value your estate will be worth more and your investors will be happy.
*Try researching about ICO if interested.




— I was wondering if increasing minimum wage will help increase our states purchasing/consumption power and attract investors.
Some argued that this will lead to inflation. I think it won't have much of an impact if done well.
Most of the increase will go directly to mortgage/housing, insurances, healthcare, education, child support, etc. For example, if a company increases salary from from 20,000 to 60,000
employee will get paid 20,000 while the remaining 40,000 will be sent directly to the employee's Mortgage , Insurances, Healthcare Companies. When the employee is ready to buy or build a home, he just apply to the mortgage company and a home will be built for him. Same with Insurances , health care, education.

The companies should be located within the state. If it becomes impossible to get the companies established in the state, good Indigenous Companies could be used

It is important that States get much of the increased minimum wages spent within the state to improve its economy and make the State very attractive to investors.

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Re: . by Nobody: 9:33am On Oct 28, 2018
Xander85:
Proposed Okija Guest House, Anambra, by Obijackson group.

Courtesy KMA Architects:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P75wClA6VU


This is very good, ndigbo need more of this.

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Re: . by mightguy(m): 9:34am On Oct 28, 2018
HopeAtHand:
I wish to state here and now that i can be on any thread i wish on NL, regardless of wether anyone or group considers my presence there necessary or not. I do what i want, when and how.

Now that i have established my position, i wish to state that the map of Biafra that has territories of unwilling ethnicities stupidly drawn into it wasn't drawn by me but IPOB and IPOB for all intents and purposes remains a property of the Igbos of SE Nigeria.


If Igbos do not want a greater resentment from minority SS groups from what we already have on ground, they should caution IPOB fr drawing inciting maps and should as a matter of cordial and peaceful coexistence limit all IPOB activities to their areas i.e the 5 SE states and Asaba/Aniocha areas of Delta.


The least Igbos can do now is to offend people they rather be courting, else some lessons might be taught. Lessons that would be hard to forget.


He that has an ear, let him hear. Thanks.

who is this one. Who wants relationship with people who will become a burden to igbo nation. God forbid. We don't need people who came not reason pass 65k monthly stipend

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Re: . by oilPUSSY(f): 9:35am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


Who dash dem 4 LGAs?

It's 3 and half.

1. Emohua
2. Ikwerre
3. Obio/Akpor

They share PHLGA with Okrika people.

That's the current situation.
Which ethnic group occupied Ahoda?
Re: . by Nobody: 9:37am On Oct 28, 2018
OpenYourEyes1:
We need to let the ikwerre be.
I kind of understand why some don't want to be associated with the Igbo family. It's human nature. Insulting them will only make things worse. I guess they are trying to survive or avoid being tyrannized by men of lawlessness. It is a cowardly approach unfortunately but what can we do.

I believe you have never met an ikwerre person before, this people are so hateful even without been provoked.

Just chill abeg, nobody cares about them except ipob.

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Re: . by Nobody: 9:39am On Oct 28, 2018
mightguy:
who is this one. Who wants relationship with people who will become a burden to igbo nation. God forbid. We don't need people who came not reason pass 65k monthly stipend

The more u engage them, the more they have this sense of importance and relevance, just ignore them and they will fade away like dust.

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Re: . by mightguy(m): 9:42am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


You can't negotiate with FG for Ogoniland, you can only negotiate with Ogonis for affiliation with Biafra.
Obigbo is Igboland as it stands, so I don't know why you had to put it there.
Ogonis are not all that friendly neighbors to Ndiigbo in Obigbo, they have been fighting Obigbo people for Obigbo lands, the crisis there was so high in the 1990s that Obigbo people had to invite their brothers in Ukwa East and West, Abia State for help , it wasn't until then was Obigbo lands kept free from land grabbing Ogonis, who initially thought that Obigbo was a lone Wolf they could overwhelm with their superior numbers in Rivers state. The constant squabble between Ogonis in Tai and Obigbo Igbos was the major reason Obigbo was carved out of old Tai LGA, and made an independent LGA of it's own.

The Ogonis are not necessarily a bad people, but personally, I'd rather not share a country with them. Already, the Eleme Ogonis who feel privileged and better positioned, because they host most of the multinational corporations in Ogoniland including the Onne seaport, are already separating themselves from Khana, Gokana and Tai Ogonis, they are saying Eleme is now an independent ethnic group. That's the kind of mindset they have over there.
Ogoniland clean up is going to take billions of naira to execute , where will a young Biafra get such Money from to start cleaning Nigeria mess in Ogoniland? Knowing these people and their sense of entitlement and injustice, they would start shouting IGBO domination and marginalization, the moment we don't focus our resources on their area.
Is it really worth the headache? I don't think so.

Maybe a better diplomatic Biafra team might still win them into joining us, as I personally don't fancy them, nor do I see them deciding to join us.
But you have to give away the very idea of dividing and annexing people land without their consultation, it's a very wrong mindset. Your idea of discussing with FG for Ogoniland, as if Ogoni people are imbeciles with no group input or opinions on the matter, is repugnant and such mindset needs to die.

Having said that, I love and recognize your passion for Igbo nation well being.

Jisike.
Pazienza. Is thought onne seaport is in ikwerre land? So the land belongs to ogoni
Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:59am On Oct 28, 2018
oilPUSSY:

Which ethnic group occupied Ahoda?

Ekpeye

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Re: . by oilPUSSY(f): 10:03am On Oct 28, 2018
OpenYourEyes1:
We need to let the ikwerre be.
I kind of understand why some don't want to be associated with the Igbo family. It's human nature. Insulting them will only make things worse. I guess they are trying to survive or avoid being tyrannized by men of lawlessness. It is a cowardly approach unfortunately but what can we do.



Back to the topic...

— I think we should explore new ways to develop our lands. Some suggested the use of ICO (Initial Coin Offering) to develop the real estate and other important Industries. The good thing about ICO is that people anywhere in the world can easily buy into your token/project especially If you are honest, transparent and a good Real Estate developer/entrepreneur. If you build your Estate and it is doing well your company's token will increase in price... The token thing is a bit more like shares in Stock Market, only difference is that it can be used as currency.
As your token keeps going up in value your estate will be worth more and your investors will be happy.
*Try researching about ICO if interested.




— I was wondering if increasing minimum wage will help increase our states purchasing/consumption power and attract investors.
Some argued that this will lead to inflation. I think it won't have much of an impact if done well.
Most of the increase will go directly to mortgage/housing, insurances, healthcare, education, child support, etc. For example, if a company increases salary from from 20,000 to 60,000
employee will get paid 20,000 while the remaining 40,000 will be sent directly to the employee's Mortgage , Insurances, Healthcare Companies. When the employee is ready to buy or build a home, he just apply to the mortgage company and a home will be built for him. Same with Insurances , health care, education.

The companies should be located within the state. If it becomes impossible to get the companies established in the state, good Indigenous Companies could be used

It is important that States get much of the increased minimum wages spent within the state to improve its economy and make the State very attractive to investors.
If we don't discuss them how can we know what is going on in that area?
The thread really opened the eyes of many, and many people offline are not aware of things that are going on there until they start reading.
Some of us used to love everbody from that axis but I think time has come for such love to be selective.
We should start loving some of them on personal basis because of friendship and martial issues but not on general basis.
We must keep making inquiries about them because igbo si na onye ajuju anaghi efu uzo.
Onye amaghi ebe mmiri bidoro maba ya, ogaghi ama ebe okwusiri ya.
The funny thing is that they are still bearing our names.
What type of nonsense is that ?

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Re: . by oilPUSSY(f): 10:05am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


Ekpeye
And they are scared of Igbos too?
Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:05am On Oct 28, 2018
mightguy:
Pazienza. Is thought onne seaport is in ikwerre land? So the land belongs to ogoni

Who dash monkey banana. For where!
Onne seaport belongs to Eleme people, even though Okrika people have a considerable stake in it as well.

Ikwerreland has no sea coast. Just like Igboland, they can only access the sea via Rivers controlled by Ijaws down South.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:06am On Oct 28, 2018
oilPUSSY:
And they are scared of Igbos too?

Yup.

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Re: . by vanbonattel: 10:07am On Oct 28, 2018
Funnicator:


Ikwerre is not Igbo land.

That's what we Yorubas say to divide Igbos from Ikwerre people grin
Re: . by oilPUSSY(f): 10:19am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


Yup.
Wonderful!
Re: . by mightguy(m): 10:19am On Oct 28, 2018
pazienza:


Who dash monkey banana. For where!
Onne seaport belongs to Eleme people, even though Okrika people have a considerable stake in it as well.

Ikwerreland has no sea coast. Just like Igboland, they can only access the sea via Rivers controlled by Ijaws down South.
hmm this is becoming interesting

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Re: . by mightguy(m): 10:22am On Oct 28, 2018
oilPUSSY:

If we don't discuss them how can we know what is going on in that area?
The thread really opened the eyes of many, and many people offline are not aware of things that are going on there until they start reading.
Some of us used to love everbody from that axis but I think time has come for such love to be selective.
We should start loving some of them on personal basis because of friendship and martial issues but not on general basis.
We must keep making inquiries about them because igbo si na onye ajuju anaghi efu uzo.
Onye amaghi ebe mmiri bidoro maba ya, ogaghi ama ebe okwusiri ya.
The funny thing is that they are still bearing our names.
What type of nonsense is that ?
ika na aju ajuju. Our mothers taught them igbo language.. And changed their bini diety into amadioha the god of thunder.most only that. Our mothers made them to build the biggest amadioha shrine in the whole of South east

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