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Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:03am On Oct 28, 2018
Driver calls in, states vehicle RPM is @ 1.7rpm steady and he's unable to drive the car. I tell him to take out the battery and leave it for a few minutes and try again.

trys it again same thing.

Driver scans vehicle, scan reveals P2122 and P2127 the codes are permanent codes.

it's a weekend and I am very busy so I ask him to find a way to move car down to the workshop from ajah (law sch).

he finds a way (Don't know how he did it) and sat morning car is in front of workshop.

I decide to do a quick 15min assessment of the associated symptoms

Plugged Scanner scanned...... codes.. www.nairaland.com/attachments/8034971_img201810280636019_jpeg09a2fbc44ad4b02f2594b284c6befecd

Clear codes, but re-scan and same codes pop up again. Meaning code is permanent.

So I take out the Throttle pedal and Inspect the potentiometer, I was hoping to find fluids or corrosion or a damaged contact inside. (Sorry no pics for that), found nothing.

put it back together, adjusted the contacts a hoped it would start working again (fluke things grin ) same thing, no response from accelerator pedal with engine running. cry

My 15mins was up, I had a wedding to attend, so I abandoned it and headed home.

Church wedding over, sitting in reception, but my mind is still on the nissan. I receive a call about a client who wants to pick up his vehicle, but they can't find the keys, I tap my pocket and the keys are with me. sad leaving Mrs Gazzuzz in reception I head back to workshop (5mins drive) drop off key, and did another 15min check on nissan again. This time live scan, checked input voltage when pedal depressed, readings varied according to pedal positions (meaning pedal was fine)

But output readings on throttle body when pedal depressed were static. So I just assumed a faulty Engine ecu undecided

Next plan was to find someone who had conquered this error and find out how it was conquered.

Placed an Sms to my Oga patapata of Nissan, I was very vague in my explanation but His response was "you might have to change the unit"

next I called my Oga in Nnewi he said same thing, that he just solved one same way.

I was having hope small small... next thing phone rings..... Its the Mrs.

I abandoned ship again. Went back to reception and my people were ready to go. On my way home, I called another Oga in PH, he said it's a wiring problem check harness, said he had seen similar issue and it was a wiring problem.

my head is now full.

5:46pm I message Uncle Autoelectng gave him a brief description of the problem, and asked if he had experienced same type of issue he said yes, but it was a transmission related fault. He promised to get back to me.
ill tell you one thing about Uncle, he likes all the info. Model year, engine type, production year, transmission type, etc, last last I sent him the vin and messages were quiet for a while.

In the morning 5am I opened my messages and saw a video link Autoelectng sent, it was not in English, but I understood "mechanic" (it's a universal language)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn992Ci8UyE

His message was sent 2:41am.

5:52am I was out of the house straight to the workshop.

This is now a full explanation of what the issue is and how it was solved.

There is a rubber stud at the base of the accelerator pedal, with time it disintegrates (carefully looking at the floor mat you will see the remains)

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when this happens, the app sensor on the pedal gives off a higher than usual resistance @ idle. The engine ecu has set parameters for the operation of the throttle pedal sensor, and any slight deviation from parameters throws a circuit code and disables the function of the pedal (That's why we love toyota grin).

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Looking closely at the pic above you will notice a large hole with no rubber stud top left and pedal resting on base (you need to understand "mechanic"wink

First plan was to test an see if this would work.

Got a good old used slippers (saving technicians since 1801)

www.nairaland.com/attachments/8034950_img201810280629168_jpeg9a6a0e821173841a792c338c3832b419 .

pinned it behind the pedal base, cleared codes and for the first time since this problem started, I went back to read codes and they were gone shocked

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Started car and pedal worked perfectly, idle back to normal.

So I say to my self, how will I ensure this 1801 saver remains in place without falling? Or should I just re-design the pedal?

I vex and brought out my welding machine and a 10mm nut, welded it to the base of the pedal and installed a screwed a 10mm bolt in place to allow pedal rest on bolt grin this was more like killing an Ant with a sledge hammer.

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Looked good and firm, tested it and it worked, but long term, metal to metal contact without any lubrication will cause a small dent that will grow, it might take several years, but it would happen.

So I decided to use the rubber stud, and place it inside the 10mm bolt, it was a very firm fit, I had to pull really hard and finally it sat perfect, not requiring glue to hold it in place (but I sha put o!)

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Tested and it worked perfectly. Phone rings it's wife : Hello baby you have the key of the IX with you? I tap my pocket angry have to run home cheesy

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Slazim: 9:11am On Oct 28, 2018
Nice one boss, only very few folks take this much time to troubleshoot a vehicle guess work justs takes over.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by khassy(m): 9:11am On Oct 28, 2018
Uncle do you have someone you can recommend to help me tint a Camry 08

This is the 5th time I'm tinting it in less than 3 months

I'm tired embarassed
Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Dreamflyin(m): 9:55am On Oct 28, 2018
I nearly cried the day I discovered it was that green rubber stub. After changing two pedal sensors.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 10:25am On Oct 28, 2018
Dreamflyin:
I nearly cried the day I discovered it was that green rubber stub. After changing two pedal sensors.
I guess it's because of such inexplicable nuances that Nissan will always warn to never replace the sensor but the whole peddle assembly.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by aninweze(m): 11:50am On Oct 28, 2018
Thanks for letting us peep once more into your thought process.
I appreciate.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 28, 2018
aninweze:
Thanks for letting us peep once more into your thought process.
True. Occasional flirtation with Nissan is good for knowledge smiley

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by GAZZUZZ(m): 12:14pm On Oct 28, 2018
Costee:

True. Occasional flirtation with Nissan is good for knowledge smiley

I might resume support of Nissan, just need to buy a manual for every nissan brought in. cheesy

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 12:21pm On Oct 28, 2018
GAZZUZZ:


I might resume support of Nissan, just need to buy a manual for every nissan brought in. cheesy
Nothing can be more self-gratifying grin

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by AutoElectNG: 12:31pm On Oct 28, 2018
From my little experience, Nissans are like European cars in complexity

In the sense of over-engineering

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by YorubaEmir: 1:05pm On Oct 28, 2018
@ GAZZUZZ your understanding of mechanics and electrical systems is very apt .

If one understands that sensors are mere fabricated devices leveraging on conversion of mechanical or physical variations to electrical pulses for its detection, it'll be very easy to troubleshoot the problems.

Yesterday, I parked my 2007 VW Passat and discovered one of the dashboard warning light was on . I googled the symbol and it was "fuel tank cover off " grin I wondered when the midnight street urchings car Vandals started stealing tank cover .
I opened the lid and discovered it was well screwed in place. I had to unscrew and screw it back any the warning light went off ... It was a case of two electrical conductors not making correct contact... Sometimes all these sensors grow rusty and malfunction and one might start treating a false alarm forgetting that the whistle blower might be the culprit. Thank God u didn't change the unit grin

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by HeavenlyBang(m): 1:45pm On Oct 28, 2018
And this, right here, is why no one buys Nissans anymore. They can be anal with their design.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by oride: 2:10pm On Oct 28, 2018
This your quarrel with Nissan needs to be settled ASAP.


Happy Sunday.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by oride: 2:11pm On Oct 28, 2018
HeavenlyBang:
And this, right here, is why no one buys Nissans anymore. They can be anal with their design.

One man's meat is .....

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by GAZZUZZ(m): 2:24pm On Oct 28, 2018
HeavenlyBang:
And this, right here, is why no one buys Nissans anymore. They can be anal with their design.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3329849_youreblessed_jpeg2e28a8cb19db328d47c818a5d7705d6f .

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by CityNGR: 8:27pm On Oct 28, 2018
I am still tempted to get the xterra or pathy 2003 models though.....

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Slazim: 9:04pm On Oct 28, 2018
CityNGR:
I am still tempted to get the xterra or pathy 2003 models though.....
I am not alone. It's the reliability and maintenance am yet to get fully.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by CityNGR: 9:22pm On Oct 28, 2018
Slazim:

I am not alone. It's the reliability and maintenance am yet to get fully.

Costee has been saying all is well...but hmmm

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by fuckboys: 11:11pm On Oct 28, 2018
GAZZUZZ:


5:46pm I message Uncle Autoelectng gave him a brief description of the problem, and asked if he had experienced same type of issue he said yes, but it was a transmission related fault. He promised to get back to me.
ill tell you one thing about Uncle, he likes all the info. Model year, engine type, production year, transmission type, etc, last last I sent him the vin and messages were quiet for a while.

In the morning 5am I opened my messages and saw a video link Autoelectng sent, it was not in English, but I understood "mechanic" (it's a universal language)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn992Ci8UyE



Mr keyboard warrior, please what do you mean by the bolded? you understood mechanical universal language BRAHAHA or you turned on the English subtitle of the video? like every other video on youtube.
Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by sultaan(m): 12:32am On Oct 29, 2018
Had one of that type of problem with a brake switch on my old Galant the clue , all the broken plastic was right there that was my first lesson with limit switches

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by GAZZUZZ(m): 5:35am On Oct 29, 2018
fuckboys:
Mr keyboard warrior, please what do you mean by the bolded? you understood mechanical universal language BRAHAHA or you turned on the English subtitle of the video? like every other video on youtube.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4229119_3986160img20160714190832jpegba3768700b7422f9a78695102f281421_jpeg9ac5daef3e8565bf8c946a5d471bb212

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by oride: 8:07am On Oct 29, 2018
Slazim:

I am not alone. It's the reliability and maintenance am yet to get fully.

As long as you don't go above the 2003 model, you'll be ok. The Xterra is a work horse. I used mine for 4 years and I only carried out the routine service required. The parts are fairly cheap to get. I'll also recommend getting the ones with 'auxilliary' gear.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by mejai(m): 10:29am On Oct 29, 2018
nice improvising! but don't u think der is kazzem blood (slippers, glue and welding) in everyone of us grin

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by HeavenlyBang(m): 11:11am On Oct 29, 2018
mejai:
nice improvising! but don't u think der is kazzem blood (slippers, glue and welding) in everyone of us grin


It's called being resourceful.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 1:03pm On Oct 29, 2018
YorubaEmir:
@ GAZZUZZ your understanding of mechanics and electrical systems is very apt .

If one understands that sensors are mere fabricated devices leveraging on conversion of mechanical or physical variations to electrical pulses for its detection, it'll be very easy to troubleshoot the problems.

Yesterday, I parked my 2007 VW Passat and discovered one of the dashboard warning light was on . I googled the symbol and it was "fuel tank cover off " grin I wondered when the midnight street urchings car Vandals started stealing tank cover .
I opened the lid and discovered it was well screwed in place. I had to unscrew and screw it back any the warning light went off ... It was a case of two electrical conductors not making correct contact... Sometimes all these sensors grow rusty and malfunction and one might start treating a false alarm forgetting that the whistle blower might be the culprit. Thank God u didn't change the unit grin
Your analogy does not exactly cohere with the case in question here. All that happened was your fuel filler lid was not properly mounted. (And this is a common enough scenario). If it had been defective and you had found a way round it you could well beat your chest for beating VW to their tricks! The pedal assembly had become defective and an improvisation was made. If this was to serve beyond a temporary expedient, then as the term goes on this board, it’s Kazeemization. The ideal is to replace the assembly and return the mechanism to factory specs (hm…that phrase sounds recently familiar).

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 1:05pm On Oct 29, 2018
HeavenlyBang:
And this, right here, is why no one buys Nissans anymore...
…yes, at Ajamgbadi. Thought I heard you whisper to Pipedreams not long ago: “My next car will almost definitely be a G35, and I'd buy a 2007/2008.” Or was that intended as a pipe dream?

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by HeavenlyBang(m): 1:10pm On Oct 29, 2018
Costee:

…yes, at Ajamgbadi. Thought I heard you whisper to Pipedreams not long ago: “My next car will almost definitely be a G35, and I'd buy a 2007/2008.” Or was that intended as a pipe dream?

Well, I'm not exactly no one. grin
Besides, I can buy whatever I want. I have no worries, my techie is the best in the business. wink
Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by Nobody: 1:11pm On Oct 29, 2018
CityNGR:
I am still tempted to get the xterra or pathy 2003 models though.....
Already 15 years old. Why stay in the past?
Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by CityNGR: 1:27pm On Oct 29, 2018
Costee:

Already 15 years old. Why stay in the past?

Purse.

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by obekediamondfuto(m): 1:31pm On Oct 29, 2018
and this is how ikenna started...

fastest shortcut to being a very good mechanic...

get an extremely used and abused naija vehicle (rare brand) and make up ur mind to fix it......

PS have enough spare time on ur hands or resign from ur current one.

Gazuzz I sight u going Nissan!

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Re: Nissan Sunny 2007-2010 P2122 And P2127 No Acceleration. by obekediamondfuto(m): 1:32pm On Oct 29, 2018
CityNGR:

Purse.
I'm back BRO..... I ran away because of that my subtle reminder

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