oilPUSSY:

Dalu.
Just asking to know more about them because there is one man I know that's a victim of abandoned property. The man built a house in Ahoda 1965/66 before the war. Then after the war, his house was called "Abandoned " making the man to move to back to Onitsha with his family and he started from the scratch again. Being an industrious igbo man he is, he was able to build not one house, but close to ten houses in Onitsha which his children and grandchildren are currently enjoying the proceeds.

Fastfoward to 2011, the son of the man was able to locate that house again. How he was able to locate the house is through one popular school that was built adjacent to the house according to what his father told him. You know people always use schools, churches and hospitals to locate a place easily . Again, the father as a young married man then took a picture in front of his house when he finished building it as young business man that has made it life.
When the son visited the place in 2011, although that was not his purpose of going to Ahoda, he went there for something else but he's an inquisitive person who likes making inquiries about the past. That house is still the way the father left it in 1967, no renovation, no painting nothing. They haven't changed the zink, you can imagine how a house that was built in 60's will look like without renovation . According to the man, he saw domestic animals entering and coming out from a room like normal humanbeings . Everywhere was so dirty.

Stealing someone's properties is one thing, but maintaining those properties is another thing. Igbos have moved on and acquired more even more they acquired before the war. Those than stole their properties cannot maintain it maybe either or they are timid or they lack the capacity.

The reason why I asked about Ahoda is because I thought it's occupied by ijaws because we know that ijaws are the people that championed the issue of "Abandoned properties"

Lol

Tales by the moonlight. They didn't tell you that the whole street has been bought by Igbos again?

I mean, again?

Keep spreading your negativity while umu Chineke coasts to victory

vanbonattel:


Stop hiding behind your finger, Ekpeye are Igbos that speak their own dialect of Igbo just like the Ohofia and the Nsukka.

Oga, I’m not a linguist. Since you’re one, you probably know better.

Curlieweed:


Oga, I’m not a linguist. Since you’re one, you probably know better.

I am a linguist and I know that every Igbo speaking area in the world were born by Igbomen who were their ancestors and lived on the same space they live in now. So, every Igbo speaking area is Igboland.

Obi1kenobi:


The only state agitation I would support is Anioma. Chopping up territory from 5 small SE states to piece together one small new state sounds quite extreme and such a state would be in political turmoil in our political climate where we're always arguing about rotational leadership. After an Orumba man is governor, the next time an Orumba man will smell it again will be like 30 years later.

I don't know what is wrong with the guy. Instead of adding population to your numbers, he is planning on dividing it more. I see that too many opinions can water agitation.

vanbonattel:


I am a linguist and I know that every Igbo speaking area in the world were born by Igbomen who were their ancestors and lived on the same space they live in now. So, every Igbo speaking area is Igboland.

Ok. No wahala

vanbonattel:


Lol

Tales by the moonlight. They didn't tell you that the whole street has been bought by Igbos again?

I mean, again?

Keep spreading your negativity while umu Chineke coasts to victory

It could be true that Igbos have bought everywhere because I know what Igbos can do. I didnt just tell this story for telling sake, it's a reality.That house could still be there because people that were living in it as of 2011 didnt look like people that have future/hope. They were looking so miserable according to the man. You should have asked why am I only interested in Ahoda people?. It's because of this story.
I am only striving to know more about their stand in Rivers state and other thnic groups in the state.
This your reply you gave me shows that you are not happy about my comment because you perceive it as an effort to sow seed of discord among igbos and other ethnic groups in SS maybe because of IPOB.
As I am now I am in 100 percent support of anything Biafffra. You can go through my posts. I always call out anybody that decides to critisize Nnamdi Kanu, I see them as enemies of not only Igbos, but Igbos in general. Anything to make Igbos to pull of this unholy union will make me happy.
I will perpetually love those Igbos in SS that never denied their Igbo heritage.
I will still love non in Igbos in SS that believe in IPOB . I won't also condemn the whole SS non Igbos just because of non challant attitude some of them exhibit.

BTW, are you from Rivers ?

pazienza:



Eleme people speak a dialect of Ogoni, but they wouldn't even accept they are Ogoni.
They had denied their Khana, Tai and Gokana brothers just because they want to enjoy the benefits of hosting multinational corporations in their lands alone. They consider their more populated Khana, Gokana and Tai brothers as a threat.
But somehow. You believe they would want to embrace Ndiigbo with over 30million population who they don't even share same language with?

The way you lots reason baffle me. I pray we dont have people that reason this way, pilot IGBO affairs, because we are definitely going to crash under their leadership.

Rivers State is too complex for average Nigerian. The Eleme you call Ogoni undeniably has links with Ogoni but then also with Okrika, Opobo, Igbo, Ikwerre and even Akwaibom. It's a distinct ethnic group but more related in language to Ogoni.

Curlieweed:


Actually, linguists classify two Igboid languages, Igbo and Ekpeye.

hope it is not Wikipedia? What they were called in the olden dayz was ekpaphia which means Bush bag but in English it doesn't sound well that is y they are trying every possible way to clean it off ekpeye or whatever...

Abagworo:


Rivers State is too complex for average Nigerian. The Eleme you call Ogoni undeniably has links with Ogoni but then also with Okrika, Opobo, Igbo, Ikwerre and even Akwaibom. It's a distinct ethnic group but more related in language to Ogoni.

go and sit down. U speak 90 percent ogoni language and answers the same name but still they are distinct?.. If some ikwerre. Opobo words are found there that is called influence due to interaction.. All this are oil politics

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Typing full on nairaland no epp anyone.

mightguy:
hope it is not Wikipedia? What they were called in the olden dayz was ekpaphia which means Bush bag but in English it doesn't sound well that is y they are trying every possible way to clean it off ekpeye or whatever...

No, it’s not Wikipedia. It’s a scholarly paper. Wikipedia has some “political” additions.

oilPUSSY:

Dalu.
Just asking to know more about them because there is one man I know that's a victim of abandoned property. The man built a house in Ahoda 1965/66 before the war. Then after the war, his house was called "Abandoned " making the man to move to back to Onitsha with his young family of three then and he started from the scratch again. Being an industrious igbo man he is, he was able to build not one house, but close to ten houses in Onitsha which his children and grandchildren are currently enjoying the proceeds.

Fastfoward to 2011, the son of the man was able to locate that house again. How he was able to locate the house is through one popular school that was built adjacent to the house according to what his father told him. You know people always use schools, churches and hospitals to locate a place easily . Again, the father as a young married man then took a picture in front of his house when he finished building it as young business man that has made it life.
When the son visited the place in 2011, although that was not his purpose of going to Ahoda, he went there for something else but he's an inquisitive person who likes making inquiries about the past. That house is still the way the father left it in 1967, no renovation, no painting nothing. They haven't changed the zink, you can imagine how a house that was built in 60's will look like without renovation . According to the man, he saw domestic animals entering and coming out from a room like normal humanbeings . Everywhere was so dirty. He greeted people inside that compound and pretended as if he missed his way...

Stealing someone's properties is one thing, but maintaining those properties is another thing. Igbos have moved on and acquired more even more they acquired before the war. Those than stole their properties cannot maintain it maybe either or they are timid or they lack the capacity.

The reason why I asked about Ahoda is because I thought it's occupied by ijaws because we know that ijaws are the people that championed the issue of "Abandoned properties"

ekpaofia is there name.. They are igbos denier

. Ijaw people was the people that orchestrated the act.. Ken sarongs did it. He collaboratorated with all this igbo deniers to change their name and twist in so many way but still the truth is clear.. Ken was responsible for the killing of five ogoni chiefs simply because they didn't support the movement

Xander85:
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mightguy:
ekpaofia is there name.. They are igbos denier

. Ijaw people was the people that orchestrated the act.. Ken sarongs did it. He collaboratorated with all this igbo deniers to change their name and twist in so many way but still the truth is clear.. Ken was responsible for the killing of five ogoni chiefs simply because they didn't support the movement

This is sad.
I still have a lot to read. So unfortunate that history was removed from our curriculum.
Killing someone for not supporting evil ?
Gosh!!

mightguy:
ekpaofia is there name.. They are igbos denier

. Ijaw people was the people that orchestrated the act.. Ken sarongs did it. He collaboratorated with all this igbo deniers to change their name and twist in so many way but still the truth is clear.. Ken was responsible for the killing of five ogoni chiefs simply because they didn't support the movement

And Abacha hung him for his treachery. And still Igbo is their only heritage.

Curlieweed:



No, it’s not Wikipedia. It’s a scholarly paper. Wikipedia has some “political” additions.

lol kk ooo

Bede2u:
Pazienza

I was looking at these two maps and a thought struck me about the new biafran struggle.

I will suggest that if the biafran struggle ever gets serious, we can negotiate with gov on boundaries that work.

U see how close abia state is to the sea? Only 3 lgas in rivers state seperates abia from the deep sea.

We can negotiate with fg to gv us those 3 lgas which are Oyigbo, khana and opobo lgs. In return, we will for-go all igboland in SS. Including asaba and ph and every othet land outside se. That way, we wont be landlocked and we wont be taking strategic fg territories.

The people in those communities can be resettled like the bakassi pennisular case. Those who want to remain will be given authonomy within biafra. Recognising them as a minority group. They will have a share of sea port revenue with biafran govt.

Our oshimili and aniocha brothers in delta state can also declare that they must join us. Am sure fg and international community can and will respect that. The rest of delta igbo or rivers igboid can continue in nigeria with wat ever identity they choose.

As for oil, we can also negotiate to keep the current sharing formular for our 5 se states

Don't tell me you are being serious.

Interesting.
ou say the SE deserves as many states as the NE?[/quote]

oilPUSSY:

This is sad.
I still have a lot to read. So unfortunate that history was removed from our curriculum.
Killing someone for not supporting evil ?
Gosh!!

the painful part it was done by abacha. His best friend after the Civil War. He usually host abacha at his home in ph. He personally was given ojukwu property in ph... Those military officers that killed him were from difficulties part of Nigeria xcept an igbo man. It was an igbo man who was then part of ecowas that staged a protest against hanging him and because of that ecowas warned Nigeria not to but they insisted and hanged Ken and even poured acid on him so that he won't be given a befitting burial... Ojukwu told Ken. Good morning when he started rallying for support from Ndiigbo... They thought they will be loved. They wanted to be come the ultimate puppet for the fulanis but they where rejected. They thought helping them sabotage the igbo will make them to be loved. Even when obi Wali urged ikwerres to join their kin. Elechi and co ganged up and obi Wali was killed. This people don't even know history and they don't wanna learn

NaijirianKing:
I like your analysis, but I have to correct something.

Bayelsa was created by Igbos, mainly spearheaded by Ekwueme, at the time many Ijaw didn't want a stste that didn't include PH. If you think back to when "Old Rivers State" contained almost an equal amount of both Igbo and Ijaw you know that the Ijaw dominated the political space of the state. The political elites of the Ijaw had a scheme which they would run, they would inflate the number of votes they got from the part of the state which is now Bayelsa and they would win many elections because the inflated number of votes garnered from present day Bayelsa, the number of votes from that area were and are greater than the actual population even today.

Some of the Easterner Igbos knew of this game and decided to throw the Ikwerre a political life line of sorts by giving the Ijaw a State of "their own" and giving the Rivers Igbos political breathing room as the game played by the political elites of Bayelsa could no longer be sustained if the mainly Ijaw portion was turned into its very own state. With no additional local governments to inflate voting power, the Ijaw elites lost political power in the current Rivers State, but retain a great deal of sway even till today. The end result we see now are Rivers Igbos running the state since. Remember that after the war Ijaw were put at the epicenter of Rivers politics by the Center, giving them their "own" state was a way to re-balance things.

"Landmass" has always been a political issue and weaponized by some ethnics groups in Nigeria. Any time you see those words, just know they are code words used to scheme those without landmass, but with higher population figures.

Knowing is half the battle.

u see the problem but this hateful beings don't see anything good from an igbo man... This thing should be stopped. We should not lend them a helping hand again.

vanbonattel:


Igbo language is spoken in all of Igboland from Agbor to Bonny and everywhere. Igbo esika. Yorubas like Pazienza can only cry and wail in misery.

You are loosing the respect I have for you. Stop trolling this tread with irrational responses.

mightguy:
the painful part it was done by abacha. His best friend after the Civil War. He usually host abacha at his home in ph. He personally was given ojukwu property in ph... Those military officers that killed him were from difficulties part of Nigeria xcept an igbo man. It was an igbo man who was then part of ecowas that staged a protest against hanging him and because of that ecowas warned Nigeria not to but they insisted and hanged Ken and even poured acid on him so that he won't be given a befitting burial... Ojukwu told Ken. Good morning when he started rallying for support from Ndiigbo... They thought they will be loved. They wanted to be come the ultimate puppet for the fulanis but they where rejected. They thought helping them sabotage the igbo will make them to be loved. Even when obi Wali urged ikwerres to join their kin. Elechi and co ganged up and obi Wali was killed. This people don't even know history and they don't wanna learn

Since they have refused to read and learn, then calamitous mistake will perpetually remain their portion

Sure?

oilPUSSY:

Dalu.
Just asking to know more about them because there is one man I know that's a victim of abandoned property. The man built a house in Ahoda 1965/66 before the war. Then after the war, his house was called "Abandoned " making the man to move to back to Onitsha with his young family of three then and he started from the scratch again. Being an industrious igbo man he is, he was able to build not one house, but close to ten houses in Onitsha and Enugu which his children and grandchildren are currently enjoying the proceeds.

Fastfoward to 2011, the son of the man was able to locate that house again. How he was able to locate the house is through one popular school that was built adjacent to the house according to what his father told him. You know people always use schools, churches and hospitals to locate a place easily . Again, the father as a young married man then took a picture in front of his house when he finished building it as young business man that has made it life.
When the son visited the place in 2011, although that was not his purpose of going to Ahoda, he went there for something else but he's an inquisitive person who likes making inquiries about the past. That house is still the way the father left it in 1967, no renovation, no painting nothing. They haven't changed the zink, you can imagine how a house that was built in 60's will look like without renovation . According to the man, he saw domestic animals entering and coming out from a room like normal humanbeings . Everywhere was so dirty. He greeted people inside that compound and pretended as if he missed his way...

Stealing someone's properties is one thing, but maintaining those properties is another thing. Igbos have moved on and acquired more even more they acquired before the war. Those than stole their properties cannot maintain it maybe either or they are timid or they lack the capacity.

The reason why I asked about Ahoda is because I thought it's occupied by ijaws because we know that ijaws are the people that championed the issue of "Abandoned properties"

This is the same thing that will happen to igbo houses northerners and Yorubas are patiently waiting to steal. Even if they are successful, those houses will eventually become outdated and deteriorate.

oilPUSSY:

Since they have refused to read and learn, then calamitous mistake will perpetually remain their portion

that is it. Their politicians tell them that igbo are their problem while they massively loot them dry.. Do you know y ogoni clean up is still ongoing because the money is been looted. They allocated billions for ogoni this year for the same clean up. Let's wait and see. As usual it will go down the drain.. For how many years? When they start directing that hate and resentment of igbo towards their leaders. Something good will happen in south south.. Too bad they love been in chains...

mightguy:
u see the problem but this hateful beings don't see anything good from an igbo man... This thing should be stopped. We should not lend them a helping hand again.

This is exactly why I have been saying it must stop with this igbo generation. This blind love that we have been giving to igbo deniers has to end forever and ever.

horsepower101:


This is exactly why I have been saying it must stop with this igbo generation. This blind love that we have been giving to igbo deniers has to end forever and ever.

thank you my broda.. This has to stop..

NaijirianKing:
I like your analysis, but I have to correct something.

Bayelsa was created by Igbos, mainly spearheaded by Ekwueme, at the time many Ijaw didn't want a stste that didn't include PH. If you think back to when "Old Rivers State" contained almost an equal amount of both Igbo and Ijaw you know that the Ijaw dominated the political space of the state. The political elites of the Ijaw had a scheme which they would run, they would inflate the number of votes they got from the part of the state which is now Bayelsa and they would win many elections because the inflated number of votes garnered from present day Bayelsa, the number of votes from that area were and are greater than the actual population even today.

Some of the Easterner Igbos knew of this game and decided to throw the Ikwerre a political life line of sorts by giving the Ijaw a State of "their own" and giving the Rivers Igbos political breathing room as the game played by the political elites of Bayelsa could no longer be sustained if the mainly Ijaw portion was turned into its very own state. With no additional local governments to inflate voting power, the Ijaw elites lost political power in the current Rivers State, but retain a great deal of sway even till today. The end result we see now are Rivers Igbos running the state since. Remember that after the war Ijaw were put at the epicenter of Rivers politics by the Center, giving them their "own" state was a way to re-balance things.

"Landmass" has always been a political issue and weaponized by some ethnics groups in Nigeria. Any time you see those words, just know they are code words used to scheme those without landmass, but with higher population figures.

Knowing is half the battle.

Bayelsa was created by Abacha. I wouldn't say that Igbos championing and showing solidarity in supporting the cause means it was created by Igbos. It was a mutually beneficial arrangement in which Ijaws get their own state swimming in oyel money, while the Igboid groups of Rivers get to seize the political initiative in Rivers State.
Ignoring that dispute though, my point is about how population, landmass and ethnic diversity features in state creation. Speaking purely from a perspective of political prudence, on none of these counts do the SE merit a new state created from the existing 5. Plus, if we truly support restructuring (and our voices are the loudest about restructuring) which would include greater resource control and devolution of power from the centre, we should be looking at how to make our states more economically viable. We like to insult Northerners as being economic parasites, but purely by data available, SE states are big economic parasites. Ebonyi and Imo would barely have an economy without FAAC allocations, considering how little they generate in IGR. Even Anambra continues to underperform and can't surpass N20 billion a year in IGR when states like Rivers and Ogun are pursuing N100 billion, and our Delta neighbours are generating over N50billion. Demanding another state is telling the world that our restructuring agitation is just for show and not heartfelt. Our current structure is just fine as it is and we should be looking to make that work. All the Etiti and Njaba and Adada etc agitations make no sense to me. The only one that does is Anioma.

horsepower101:


This is the same thing that will happen to igbo houses northerners and Yorubas are patiently waiting to steal. Even if they are successful, those houses will eventually become outdated and deteriorate.

It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for one to succeed in mantaning what does not belong to him let alone progressing in life.
Check those that confisticated those properties how they are today, then compare them with igbos today and contrast. .. The result is there for the world to see.
Take away everthing from Igbo man, then give him some time again , he won't only meet up, he will also surpass you in all ramifications. Every tribe has their own blessing. God blessed igbos with spirit entrepreneurship and ability to make wealth irrespective of how harsh the environment or the economy is.

Sure?

mightguy:
that is it. Their politicians tell them that igbo are their problem while they massively loot them dry.. Do you know y ogoni clean up is still ongoing because the money is been looted. They allocated billions for ogoni this year for the same clean up. Let's wait and see. As usual it will go down the drain.. For how many years? When they start directing that hate and resentment of igbo towards their leaders. Something good will happen in south south.. Too bad they love been in chains...

Ogoni land will forever remain contaminated. There is nothing government can do about it. They are just using ogoni cleanup to play politics.
People from that area also know that their environment is beyond repair.
Even Briggs once said that Ogoni clean up is totally impossible. They are just using that clean up to siphon public fund.

Sure?