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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Mysselff2: 3:16pm On Oct 30, 2018
Richdad50:
The most consequential President in the history of US after Abraham Lincoln.
When i hear of Trump, i see a man sold out totally for the future of his country. His love for his country overules the thirst for Liberalism and Globalism which has brought more damage to the world than good.
Show me one Leader in Nigeria who has done half of what Trumo has done in 2years.
See, the strenght of a country is dependent on the will power of its Leader. The physiological and psychological fragility of Buhari has fractured the economy and wellbeing of the country.
#Richdadnuggets

Brilliant
Applause
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by holluwai(m): 3:22pm On Oct 30, 2018
Do not "hush" me ever!!! State whatever point you have and move along, I want to believe we all are civil,well majority.

Martinez19:
Hush! Learn to think in the long term. This move by Trump is what's best for America. Illegal aliens of any kind can't just walk across the American border and get rooted in because they gave birth to a fucking child. Besides if other countries did this, people will stop running to foreign lands and develop their own countries.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 3:24pm On Oct 30, 2018
Iamgrey5:
What made Obama lacked balls and integrity ?

So Trump that called a black electoral candidate a rouge and thief is a lover of blacks?

Trump that called Neo Nazi groups "good people" loves all Americans?


His pro racism and antisemitic comments are all over the internet for all to see.
That is CNN programs you to do, to play the black card all the time when race has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. When you are a white man and you see a black man who is a thief, will you refrain from calling him a thief because you don't want to be called a racist. Trump has called many white people rogue and has called many blacks rogue, people like Trump don't care about skin colour. That is not racism. Antisemitic? Come on, I can't believe you are saying this. His son-in-law is Jewish and he's been the closest US president to Netanyahu and Israel. Trump might be an Islamophobe though but racist hell no, antisemitic hell no. I mean the guy is supported by prominent non-uncle Tom blacks like Ben Carson and Kanye West and CNN says he's racist.

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Originalsly: 3:26pm On Oct 30, 2018
Richdad50:
The most consequential President in the history of US after Abraham Lincoln.
When i hear of Trump, i see a man sold out totally for the future of his country. His love for his country overules the thirst for Liberalism and Globalism which has brought more damage to the world than good.
Show me one Leader in Nigeria who has done half of what Trumo has done in 2years.
See, the strenght of a country is dependent on the will power of its Leader. The physiological and psychological fragility of Buhari has fractured the economy and wellbeing of the country.
#Richdadnuggets

Hmmm.....in summary... if you need a strong country then you need a dictator. And people still wonder how Adolph Hitler got soo many supporters. It is fathers like you that run their families with iron fists ...all muscle...or maybe you grew up under such.. I guess you would prefer a coup and Nigeria be run by a strongheaded take no nonsense do as I say General...that's progressive for you...the way forward.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by uvie66: 3:26pm On Oct 30, 2018
kolafolabi:
To all Nigerian celebrities.. Hope una dey hear..

That's actually the effect of Republicans being voted to power.
Linda Umeko et al.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by uvie66: 3:27pm On Oct 30, 2018
kolafolabi:
To all Nigerian celebrities.. Hope una dey hear..

That's actually the effect of Republicans being voted to power.
linda ikeji et al
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 3:34pm On Oct 30, 2018
wow..a lot of ignorance on display..maybe y'all should read about the US constitution before opening those mouths

research is always good and like republicans,most of you would rather go with alternate facts..just read 1st
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 3:34pm On Oct 30, 2018
Originalsly:


Hmmm.....in summary... if you need a strong country then you need a dictator. And people still wonder how Adolph Hitler got soo many supporters. It is fathers like you that run their families with iron fists ...all muscle...or maybe you grew up under such.. I guess you would prefer a coup and Nigeria be run by a strongheaded take no nonsense do as I say General...that's progressive for you...the way forward.
lol. How can you imply that Trump is a dictator. America is not North Korea, not Libya, not Nigeria. In America the law/constitution reigns supreme not the President. Americans insult Trump (the most powerful president in the world) to his face everyday, how many Nigerians could insult ordinary Abacha to his face
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Roadto2019: 3:35pm On Oct 30, 2018
Asholami:

Na u wan tell them how them take run their own country, abeg shift.
U dey mind that one wey the only thing he achieved in his life is to ban people.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Roadto2019: 3:35pm On Oct 30, 2018
Asholami:

Na u wan tell them how them take run their own country, abeg shift.
U dey mind that one wey the only thing he achieved in his life is to ban people.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by bongolistik(m): 3:35pm On Oct 30, 2018
AZeD1:

What's the difference between Citizenship by birth and marriage? Have you not seen Nigerian guys that marry old white women just to get papers?

What's the difference between that and getting a visitor's visa to giving birth in the US?


Most people here don't realize that unless that child stays in the US, the citizenship is a burden. I know folks who came back to Nigeria to work and are required by law to pay taxes in Nigeria and the US. After a while, they return because they end up owing so much in US taxes.

I don't think you are fully right here though I stand to be corrected. Those babies born there have dual citizenship, Nigeria and US, and it will now be their choice to claim any of the citizenship for their gain if they started working. Say they grew up and started working in Nigeria, don't expect them to pay 30% tax to the US for also being US citizen, they can simply work in Nigeria and claim their Nigerian citizenship without any obligation to the US.

Just like footballers, Dele Ali, David Alaba and co, they have dual citizenship, but they all chose to claim the citizenship of choice which are UK and Austria and they totally owe Nigeria no business even if for example say Nigeria receives tax from their citizens working abroad like the US.

It's all about diplomacy and choice when you have dual citizenship.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 3:37pm On Oct 30, 2018
Originalsly:


Hmmm.....in summary... if you need a strong country then you need a dictator. And people still wonder how Adolph Hitler got soo many supporters. It is fathers like you that run their families with iron fists ...all muscle...or maybe you grew up under such.. I guess you would prefer a coup and Nigeria be run by a strongheaded take no nonsense do as I say General...that's progressive for you...the way forward.

Africans bash globalism without realising that without globalism,Africa woukd be no where...reason africs is making strides now is because you have young kids who are able to tap into the global market to enrich themselves financially and mentally and then extend such knowledge to their communities

I weep for Nigeria
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Roadto2019: 3:37pm On Oct 30, 2018
Iamgrey5:
What made Obama lacked balls and integrity ?

So Trump that called a black electoral candidate a rouge and thief is a lover of blacks?

Trump that called Neo Nazi groups "good people" loves all Americans?


His pro racism and antisemitic comments are all over the internet for all to see.
You know nothing. Blacks loving Trump has increased. Go to Instagram and not Twitter. Many are dumping Democrats and supporting trumps. I gave lots of videos of blacks,Hispanics supporting Trump. It is the media that painted him bad. Those calling Trump a racist are the one calling Kanye west a token negro for supporting Trump,so tell me who the racist is?
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by drchuks1234(m): 3:40pm On Oct 30, 2018
And some mugus are here shouting sai baba, while sai baba is there saying a whole 4years is not enough to make a change, God punish apc and there surporters, apc is in power before trump with good 2years gap, look at america and look at nigeria, smtcheeew
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by SuccesYear: 3:41pm On Oct 30, 2018
Funnicator:


You are here telling an American and the President of America what to do and how to go about it.

Of course you know more than him and his advisors.

Nigerians and ITK
who tell you a man is an inland of knowledge. Solely because he's US President doesn't mean he isn't prone to error. He shld knw better abt constitution amendment
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by kanubiafra: 3:46pm On Oct 30, 2018
Mynd44:
Someone should please tell him he can't change the constitution with an executive order. He needs congress
what happened to us's territorial integrity. can't you stick to your "one nigeria "? why meddle in another country's politics allow them to determine thier policies
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by iamfromlagos(f): 3:47pm On Oct 30, 2018
bedspread:
This one tick!
THIS WILL AFFECT NIGERIANS OOO!! NIGERIANS WONT LIKE THIS!


I LOVE TRUMP SOOOOO MUCH!! Man with Guts!!
I tell you.

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by jagbajantus: 3:55pm On Oct 30, 2018
kingthreat:
Good one Trump. If you want a US citizenship, let them earn it. Not by giving birth in US, then because your child is a US citizen you can go to US later.

So, which one concern you for dis one? What do you mean "earn" it? What exactly does that mean?

Abi, you are simply just jealous of those that are doing it because you no fit do am yourself?
Get your wife or girlfriend pregnant and go to US and do am yourself. Don't get mad at those people that are doing it.
It is not only Africans doing it. They come from all countries - China, India, Europe, Brazil, everywhere.

The number is not as big as Trump says it is. He is only exaggerating for political purposes.
There are more important things for "real" Americans to worry about. And this is not number 1 or 2 or even 3 on the scale.
Trump is only stoking racism and bigotry. He really does NOT care about the real America or anyone, for that matter.
He cares only about himself. He lies. He cheats. He is selfish. He uses people. He uses racist and inflammatory rhetoric.
He does not give a damn about you or anyone from any sh*hole country. Any Nigerian who supports Trump is just ignorant of the facts.

If the baby's parents are Norwegian or Swedish, German, British or any "White" or European country, then it is OK with Trump but if they are from Africa, Mexico, Singapore or Malaysia, then Trump has a problem. He doesn't want them. This is all Trump politics. It has nothing to do with love of America. Wake your ass up and smell the coffee or the cocoa. You are being tricked and lied to.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 4:00pm On Oct 30, 2018
blackgold2018:
To all this small minds who think giving birth in US makes their child great or better than others.
Greatness is mindset, u can be born in a shit hole village and still become president.
Mr mindset, please go back to your village and start working your way through becoming the president. Haven't you heard the word Opportunity before? You can become anything you want to be Yes! But that greatly depends on alot of factors.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by AZeD1(m): 4:04pm On Oct 30, 2018
bongolistik:
I don't think you are fully right here though I stand to be corrected. Those babies born there have dual citizenship, Nigeria and US, and it will now be their choice to claim any of the citizenship for their gain if they started working. Say they grew up and started working in Nigeria, don't expect them to pay 30% tax to the US for also being US citizen, they can simply work in Nigeria and claim their Nigerian citizenship without any obligation to the US.

Just like footballers, Dele Ali, David Alaba and co, they have dual citizenship, but they all chose to claim the citizenship of choice which are UK and Austria and they totally owe Nigeria no business even if for example say Nigeria receives tax from their citizens working abroad like the US.

It's all about diplomacy and choice when you have dual citizenship.
Citizenship by birth is not a choice. The US is the only country I know of that requires it's citizens working outside the country to pay tax so any child born in the US would have to pay taxes to the US irrespective of where they work and reside unless they renounce their US citizenship.

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by temmytanny(m): 4:06pm On Oct 30, 2018
Amendments may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a convention of states called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures.[1] To become part of the Constitution, an amendment must be ratified by either—as determined by Congress—the legislatures of three-quarters of the states or state ratifying conventions in three-quarters of the states.[2] The vote of each state (to either ratify or reject a proposed amendment) carries equal weight, regardless of a state's population or length of time in the Union.

Haters stop hating.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 4:07pm On Oct 30, 2018
temmytanny:

lazy or Republicans blocked almost all his move to work with them. You know jack, man.
They blocked a lot of his agenda because he was a radical socialist trying to 'Fundamentally change the USA' which is the whole point of the congress dummy! To make sure the president never gets to powerful and turns into a tyranny.

If Obama was a skilled moderate democrat politician like a Bill Clinton, he would have still been able to negotiate and politic with Republicans to get a lot done despite the typical hostility..this is something every President faces and should be able to play the game but Obama was an arrogant man who saw Republicans as beneath him and constantly tried to circumvent them with executive orders. Why are you now mad that Trump is doing the same?

Don't debate politics with me boy. You will lose big time.

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by ollah2: 4:07pm On Oct 30, 2018
jagbajantus:


So, which one concern you for dis one? What do you mean "earn" it? What exactly does that mean?

Abi, you are simply just jealous of those that are doing it because you no fit do am yourself?
Get your wife or girlfriend pregnant and go to US and do am yourself. Don't get mad at those people that are doing it.
It is not only Africans doing it. They come from all countries - China, India, Europe, Brazil, everywhere.

The number is not as big as Trump says it is. He is only exaggerating for political purposes.
There are more important things for "real" Americans to worry about. And this is not number 1 or 2 or even 3 on the scale.
Trump is only stoking racism and bigotry. He really does NOT care about the real America or anyone, for that matter.
He cares only about himself. He lies. He cheats. He is selfish. He uses people. He uses racist and inflammatory rhetoric.
He does not give a damn about you or anyone from any sh*hole country. Any Nigerian who supports Trump is just ignorant of the facts.

If the baby's parents are Norwegian or Swedish, German, British or any "White" or European country, then it is OK with Trump but if they are from Africa, Mexico, Singapore or Malaysia, then Trump has a problem. He doesn't want them. This is all Trump politics. It has nothing to do with love of America. Wake your ass up and smell the coffee or the cocoa. You are being tricked and lied to.



Thank you for this. Most Nigerians just love to hate, they don't want their fellow country men to progress. They want them to be on the same frustrated level so they can rant about the hardship of the country and evil government of Buhari led APC.

They won't make any move and they still hate and envy those that makes the move. Some were even happy a nairalander visa wasn't approved. The thread hit front page this morning.


These are the same people that will tell you to give your life to Christ so hell fire won't be your next destination and their counterparts that screams Allah Akbar.

Hypocrisy, Hate, Bigotry, Envy, Jealousy are Nigerians

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by djon78(m): 4:08pm On Oct 30, 2018
In as much as this is controversial and I have some of my close relations carrying American passport as a result of this issue.

I still think its a good decision.
Ever since Trumps presidency, I have appreciated all his hard immigration issues like Visa denial.

Africans really need to look more homeward, and without no alternative than to develop our place.
All these running away won't help us.
We must be here and fight it out with the bad guys that have messed the systems up.
We have allowed them get away with a lot of things. We stay here, fight it out with them.
So that the evil people that make up the system are totally uprooted.

There are still very huge potentials for this continent!! So let's stay and fight it out instead of running away.

So thumbs up to Trump. It is to our gain. It will reduce brain drain and taking our bests.

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Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 4:18pm On Oct 30, 2018
kolafolabi:
To all Nigerian celebrities.. Hope una dey hear..

That's actually the effect of Republicans being voted to power.
As in ehn.
All Republicans presidents always act almost the same.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:25pm On Oct 30, 2018
drnoel:


Bros but that's actually the point.
I believe if he doesn't know, his handlers must have told him. He may be an idiot but many of his handlers are quite bright.

1) So first point of action I think he will do is to set the ball rolling by executive order.
2) All hell breaks loose and many go to court.
3) Courts can't decide so they throw it back to legislative
4) Gbam, 14 th amendment becomes shaky. Cos repubs have majority, it's changed.
5) Executive order becomes an act of legislature and law.

NB: It will take them minimum 18 months to accomplish. It's probably what they have wanted all along cos am sure they know they won't be voted back.


Sir, it's been 22 months since Trump's presidency ordinary Obamacare, the Republicans in Congress couldn't change or amend a large portion, now you think it is feasible for the 14th amendment in the constitition to be changed within 18 months...it doesn't work like that...

...if this eventually happen (big if), then it means any future POTUS can use executive order to change the constitution and we should remember it is the constitution which has restrained past presidents and now is curtailing Trump from doing rogue or being a dictator...
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by temmytanny(m): 4:29pm On Oct 30, 2018
slyfoxxjoe:
They blocked a lot of his agenda because he was a radical socialist trying to 'Fundamentally change the USA' which is the whole point of the congress dummy! To make sure the president never gets to powerful and turns into a tyranny.

If Obama was a skilled moderate democrat politician like a Bill Clinton, he would have still been able to negotiate and politic with Republicans to get a lot done despite the typical hostility..this is something every President faces and should be able to play the game but Obama was an arrogant man who saw Republicans as beneath him and constantly tried to circumvent them with executive orders. Why are you now mad that Trump is doing the same?

Don't debate politics with me boy. You will lose big time.

Lol, no time!
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by ericmor: 4:31pm On Oct 30, 2018
All dis bcs of one unborn child. Just one person. God is wonderful
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by hermesprogidy(m): 4:36pm On Oct 30, 2018
It's all hogwash. He cannot accomplish this with just an executive order. He needs to change the 14th amendment in the US constitution. He's trying to deflect people from the upcoming elections.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by drnoel: 4:38pm On Oct 30, 2018
TheShopKeeper:



Sir, it's been 22 months since Trump's presidency ordinary Obamacare, the Republicans in Congress couldn't change or amend a large portion, now you think it is feasible for the 14th amendment in the constitition to be changed within 18 months...it doesn't work like that...

Well I did say minimum and the 18 the amendment is just one of those things the repubs have wanted altered a long time.
Time will tell. What I wrote is just a sum up, it doesn't have to happen exactly that way but I bet he will have this controversy eclipse the re-election.
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by ogbonti: 4:41pm On Oct 30, 2018
temmytanny:


14th amendment of US constitution cannot be strike out/down by ordinary executive order, not even the house or senate can do something about it so fast. He is saying this based on advice given to him by his hungry racist lawyers. Also plan to encourage his based to come and vote next week and send fear to immigrant communities. kolewek!


Shorrop there, what do you know about the 14th amendment?


This was meant to make African American former slaves WHO WERE BORN IN THE US to become full US, citizens..... it was not meant to grant citizenship to just anyone who bore a child in the US. This is why he will win at the supreme court. You think the man is stupid as CNN has made everyone believ? U wait n see
Re: Donald Trump To Terminate Birthright Citizenship by lastempero: 4:43pm On Oct 30, 2018
Heew trump be patient for me I dey beg u. I can't afford a naija citizen in my house again o.

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