The worst invitation is that of Ezenwa, the man does not play every week but continues to get invited. Our journalists should ask Rohr tough questions.

Danielnino00:


Simeon was already in the SE before Rohr took over so it's only natural for him to have been considered ahead of Onyekuru. Rohr doesn't rate the Belgian league high IMO. Every season we have players from the league that perform well but they hardly get called up.and even when they do,they don't play.. Even Ndidi didn't become a regular until he moved to Leicester...

Osimhen invitation must be because Rohr likes him...And I don't think that's bad...every coach has a favorite player....

Should be more like "Rohr has special interest in his abilities" and not "Rohr likes him"

tbaba1234:


Awoniyi scored 7 goals in over 20 league games in the league last season. Awoniyi has not scored at all this season in the league after 10 games.

Osimhen already has 5 goals in 7 league games.

The invitation might be early for Osimhen but i do not think Awoniyi has done enough so far to force the coach's hand.

Rohr clearly likes Osimhen so it is not surprising that he is getting called up.

Going by this judgement, shouldn't we have said Keshi loves Agbim? Or maybe Oliseh loves Igboun? When it comes to a foreigner we use everything to defend them, you hear stuffs like Rohr does not rate so-so player(although he has scored a ton of goals and is a solution to an ailing part of our team) instead of saying it straight and direct that Rohr too is biased. I do not care if he is biased or not so long as he gets the result but sugar-coating it is my problem. Rohr said he does not think any player from Rangers or Kano Pillars is good enough for the SE, then he goes ahead to invite a player from FCIU who has not played in ages and was not the standout defender in FCIU when he was playing, yet nobody is talking, if na Keshi invite Agbim this thread will not rest. Rohr keeps on inviting Ikechukwu Ezenwa and we will say it is because he is in his plans, if na Keshi invite Egwuekwe war start. Like I said, call it what it is 'selection bias', forget all these professional names

kentebemoney:


What's "scrapping a win" and what is 'get exposed'?

We've been on a upward climb under rohr .

.

Unfortunately,many fail to notice/acknowledge this.

EEGA:
This is just like inviting Alhassan Ibrahim ahead of Iheanacho because he doesn't get game time for City.

Wolfsburg is far far better than Gent.

So if you are a perpetual benchwarmer in Liverpool, it is better than starting every match for.....Cardiff? Shee you follow the people wey talk say Solanke na wasteman? Double standards dey bad oh

COOL10:
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Unfortunately,many fail to notice/acknowledge this.

Well !! Wetin we go do na?

safarigirl:
he scrapped two wins against Libya recently. Escaped by the skin of his teeth

The team might not be so lucky against formidable opponents like SA, we need to keep Rohr and the boys oh their toes.



Please, I heard that Adeleye guy that was called up in defence has not kicked a ball in four months. Who is recommending these home based players for Rohr?

There is overwhelming pressure to include local based players

tbaba1234:
The worst invitation is that of Ezenwa, the man does not play every week but continues to get invited. Our journalists should ask Rohr tough questions.

Not all.players re invited based on football reasons alone

Av once interrogated with a local coach and he told me y he always play a certain player in a local club in our area while every oda person/fans complain was because of his attitude and d way he "lace" his boot (awkward reason right),na so me sef find am ,some coaches too av some awkward reasons y dey keep inviting/fielding a player. not all players re invited based on purely football reason. my opinion

Earthquake1:


There is overwhelming pressure to include local based players

So of all the players playing for Rangers, Kano Pillars, Enyimba even Kastina united na second best CB for FCIU he come see?

If we're looking to sail to the promise land, Rohr doesn't seem to be the one to take us there.

But would the NFF bring on board someone who can, or are just satisfied with the status-quo?

kentebemoney:


First match was a comprehensive win,2nd close one? Yes.
Should we demand more? Yes.
However I think we are doing fine, we've played important matches without the mikel's and onazi's (old generation) . we are making a transition and winning games (this used to be a problem).
We can only get better.

The adeleye guy? Na godfather things.

Adeleye was our best defender at WAFU and would have been a sure starter at Chan if not for injuries. He might not have been active lately but this is not a bum we are talking about.

Mickael2:



So of all the players playing for Rangers, Kano Pillars, Enyimba even Kastina united na second best CB for FCIU he come see?

Outside of Enyimba the rest you mentioned were not good defensively at the Aiteo cup and the boy is the best in the land. We all saw him at Wafu

Sportilitica:
Insults on this forum is really getting out of hand. We should learn to respect people's opinions without attacking their personality. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It is said that a forum where one used to read about upcoming talents and team news with so much intellectual input has now turned to a typical nairaland forum.

What is most painful is to see the regular people who made this forum interesting drag themselves to insulting one another. We have even reduced ourselves to choosing players in our national team and attacking others as if they are not playing for the same team. What happens with this is that we learn little from each other and eventually lose focus.

There was a reason why Sir Joseph started this thread, the SUPER EAGLES! and it's development into another era. Please let us respect one another.

A recurring issue that has been much talked about. But don't worry bro, you'll get used to it. Just try to stay aboveboard at all times and don't roll in the mud with them

BascoVanVeli:


KC, Osimhen and Success were all bashed for no good reason by u and u even have the nerves to still defend Solanke. Not saying that u are racist but u have bad bele towards some of these boys for reasons only u know.

Being one of the more level headed contributors i expected more from you. But i understand that your support for Nigerian born players is o emotive you loose sight of objectivity, its ok its allowed. But because i dont have the same view as you doesn't mean HATRED or player bashing.

Your approach will not prepare them for success in Europe but failure by accepting mediocrity and changing the standard to suit them. The price of success will come to those who are prepared to pay the price in blood and guts, bravery and courage and not expecting preferential treatment.

Mickael2:



So if you are a perpetual benchwarmer in Liverpool, it is better than starting every match for.....Cardiff? Shee you follow the people wey talk say Solanke na wasteman? Double standards dey bad oh

I've never tagged any player a wasteman.

BascoVanVeli:


Outside of Enyimba the rest you mentioned were not good defensively at the Aiteo cup and the boy is the best in the land. We all saw him at Wafu

Take away that final. Kano Pillars had a good defence against Kastina United, yes they conceded at some point IIRC but they were good.

So why not pick a player from Enyimba? OK you already have four other CBs and only two will play, why invite another CB when the whole nation had been clamouring for Ikwuowem? So that tomorrow you can come and back and tell us that this is the reason why local lads shouldn't be invited. Forget the talk, when you realize that Ikechukwu Ezenwa is from FCIU you will understand the entire story

By the way Kunle Odunlami was our best defender in that same CHAN once upon a time or was it WAFU cup. My point is judge players on how consistent they are, not just a run of five matches and based on consistency, he shouldn't be there

tbaba1234:
The worst invitation is that of Ezenwa, the man does not play every week but continues to get invited. Our journalists should ask Rohr tough questions.

Oh, There'll be no need for asking. We know the cabal was just taking a nap, seems the nap is over. Agu and Ezenwa again!!!

Mickael2:



So of all the players playing for Rangers, Kano Pillars, Enyimba even Kastina united na second best CB for FCIU he come see?

Whoever he invites,he's definitely not gonna play them

Go and drink some water biko

Mickael2:


Take away that final. Kano Pillars had a good defence against Kastina United, yes they conceded at some point IIRC but they were good.

So why not pick a player from Enyimba? OK you already have four other CBs and only two will play, why invite another CB when the whole nation had been clamouring for Ikwuowem? So that tomorrow you can come and back and tell us that this is the reason why local lads shouldn't be invited. Forget the talk, when you realize that Ikechukwu Ezenwa is from FCIU you will understand the entire story

By the way Kunle Odunlami was our best defender in that same CHAN once upon a time or was it WAFU cup. My point is judge players on how consistent they are, not just a run of five matches and based on consistency, he shouldn't be there

Kano lost a 2 goal lead against Katsina in the semifinals.

Adeleye terminated his contract with IUFC he has publicly bashed the club so I am sure they are not looking to do him any favours any time soon.

Rohr likes the defender. Plus IUFC competed in the Aiteo cup so it is not like the guy has not touched a ball in 4 months or something.

Earthquake1:


Whoever he invites,he's definitely not gonna play them

Go and drink some water biko

That is the entire problem. Why invite a player that cannot compete with what we have? We have other players that can come in and keep the present players on their toes but he invites someone we already know isn't going to make the match day squad or even the Uganda friendly

Curtisaxel7:


Let me ask you this question,

How come you get access to such firsthand knowledge? Are you a coach, scout, agent or reporter?

First person to ask such a curiosity led direct question.


Obviously i can not tell you the specifics that would make me loose anonymity.


One of my friends came from Nigeria and i took him to watch an EPL match after the game we went to the players lounge , he was star struck and he said if get back and i tell people they will call me LIAR , LIAR, LIAR. Exactly what some people think here. LOL

BascoVanVeli:


Kano lost a 2 goal lead against Katsina in the semifinals.

Adeleye terminated his contract with IUFC he has publicly bashed the club so I am sure they are not looking to do him any favours any time soon.

Rohr likes the defender. Plus IUFC competed in the Aiteo cup so it is not like the guy has not touched a ball in 4 months or something.

OK tell me why we have invited another CB when we have pressing issues at LB and we have home based lads who can at least audition for that role against Uganda.

How many games did FCIU play in the AITEO cup?

Rohr likes the defender? I guess that is why he invited him to come and collect his own match bonus. Do not get me wrong he is free to invite whoever he wants to invite, but Awaziem is going back to Nantes in January, that is almost certain and by then will Adeleye still be making the team? If Enyimba's Ikwuowem comes in and plays a good game is there anyone coming back anytime soon to drop him to the bench? He will be the much needed backup, for me that was a wasted slot

komekn:


Being one of the more level headed contributors i expected more from you. But i understand that your support for Nigerian born players is o emotive you loose sight of objectivity, its ok its allowed. But because i dont have the same view as you doesn't mean HATRED or player bashing.

Your approach will not prepare them for success in Europe but failure by accepting mediocrity and changing the standard to suit them. The price of success will come to those who are prepared to pay the price in blood and guts, bravery and courage and not expecting preferential treatment.

I'm sorry was it me who called Isaac Success a waste man? There is a difference between not fancying a player and just plain going to town. Now Solanke has been proven ineffective but will you ever call him a waste man?
We both know that you are the one who doesn't like Naija born players so keep on dancing around the fact

Triniti:
I have never seen someone who brag like that guy in real life,to make it worse, he’s bragging on a faceless forum. Like dude knows virtually every Nigerian playing football in England and their parents too.

"As a man thinketh so he is"

To the man who has no car, seeing some one driving a basic car playing music with the A/C on, will seem like, Dude is showing off"

I do not have to prove anything on a faceless , that would be stupidity.

But the things i talk about are for me every day occurrences they are simply no biggie , to you they may be, but not to me. If you like believe if you like no believe , it adds nothing or takes away nothing.

BascoVanVeli:


I'm sorry was it me who called Isaac Success a waste man? There is a difference between not fancying a player and just plain going to town. Now Solanke has been proven ineffective but will you ever call him a waste man?
We both know that you are the one who doesn't like Naija born players so keep on dancing around the fact

The claim of bad belle and negative prejudice towards Nigerian born players is simply nonsensical balderdash. Made by those who are the very thing they accuse others to be, “As a man thinketh so he is “

My approach gives no preferential treatment to a player because you were born in Nigeria. There is a universal standard that is used to judge all players irrespective of nationality that standard does not change because you are Nigerian. What you would like is for me to create a standard for Nigerian players born in Nigeria and birthed from our local leagues or academies.

I am knowledge biased towards the UK if you want to call it that. I have in-depth participatory and experiential knowledge of the English football system. That knowledge and participation creates network and that network creates access. Which in turn gives me understanding from an English perspective of expectations, standards, etc

English football is different than the continental style, its more physical, intense and a lot faster to some that means better, it’s a matter of preference. You do not assess a player with a Nigerian unit of measurement but an all-encompassing one. I have had to learn what we consider in Nigeria as exceptional attributes may amount to nothing in England. So doing rainbow flicks, nut megs and dancing on the ball may look very pleasing to the eye, in England, without end product that will amount to “TIME WAISTING”

You mentioned three players you claim I have been very biased towards and show great undue HATRED to them. Namely Isaac Success, Osimhen and KC. So let’s analyse objectively without fear or favour. Not with emotive favoritism and preference not based on performance.

This is Isaac Success’s third season in the EPL, he cost £12.5 million he was bought as a striker with great promise and expectation. Ages ago I started to get reports off the record through the network about him having an attitude problem and issues of gross indiscipline. Being an EPL player is an incredible privilege and opportunity. I don’t expect any one to need to be motivated and disciplined to meet the required standard. Then coming from Nigeria knowing our situations back home that should never happen my biased opinion.

Here is a player arrives at Watford FC three years ago and is found to be unfit, then he has discipline issues then shockingly is found to be overweight. Add petrol to fire he then gets into a drunken fight with 4 prostitutes in a hotel and refuses to pay them. He is lucky the club can not afford to rip up his contract otherwise he would be gone. Now what would you call that a great return on your £12 million investment please tell me or would you without bias say, what waste of money and hence the tag, “WASTEMAN” This season he has to sit up , he has shown some promise but that’s all. When he starts a game some of you act like he has won the Ballon dor. Now may ask you who is being emotive and biased.

Osimhen was invited to the SE when he has done nothing he couldn’t get into the Wolfsburg team. Now in his third season in Europe he is now in lower league and team and he is doing good. But to reach the higher standards there is a very long way to go. His call up was never justified when you had far better proven players available. That’s a simple objective assessment. But some of you being emotive tagged him special talent on the basis of past youthful glories. I did not. And to date do not feel there is any justification for his inclusion. My objective opinion means hate to you.

Finally, KC he was bought for £25 million as a striker and has never lived up to the billing we even had some of us putting him on par with Mbappe. I said ages ago the true test of his quality, will be when he leaves city and doesn’t have world class players around him. That test has come and quite honestly, he has failed to match the expectations. Second season and not more than 6 goals in the EPL. We have changed the goal posts so many times where he is concerned there is now no longer any goal post to change. KC is a very good player but currently and since he left city he simply has been a poor investment for £25 million. To whom much is given much is expected.

If this is what you call hate, player bashing then there are too many caught up in a delusion that we have world class players. Its not hate but simple reality.

What you want me to do is create a double standard, the team needs to change for him, or the manager is not being fair to him, Oh the fans are being biased, you need to appreciate his background its not easy for him, etc, etc I don't look at these players in isolation but in the context of general standards used to equate all players not just Nigerian players. These are expectations not created by me but the clubs. i can add i talk to players, ex-players, coaches, heads of recruitment, players agents often and then the odd Manager I know.

What you are asking me to do is to look at Nigerian players differently from their peers that would be positive discrimination from the perspective of a Nigerian. But that is not being real but deceptive telling a player he is doing well when he is not. That is setting him up to fail by telling him lies , its deception.

andrew444:


You made a point because awoniyi also did well on the Belgium league

But please don't call anything bribery

We are in country riddled with corruption a NFF that is intrinsically corrupt and do you think its far fetched to make or speculate on such practices, for goodness sake we had an assistant coach taking hundreds of $$ caught on camera.

Meanwhile anything happen , "Its business as usual"

kentebemoney:


What's "scrapping a win" and what is 'get exposed'?

We've been on a upward climb under rohr.

I believe I wrote in English and not French. Upward climb based on results - yes.
This is the same thing we said before the world cup and he hid with the "we have the youngest team and are the lowest ranked team in the group" excuse to mask his tactical deficiencies.
The same people that see no problem with this are the same ones that were on Amodu and Keshi's case.
Amodu would get accused of playing with 6 defensive players even when we win but let's excuse Rohr for inviting 3 midfielders..

Mickael2:


OK tell me why we have invited another CB when we have pressing issues at LB and we have home based lads who can at least audition for that role against Uganda.

How many games did FCIU play in the AITEO cup?

Rohr likes the defender? I guess that is why he invited him to come and collect his own match bonus. Do not get me wrong he is free to invite whoever he wants to invite, but Awaziem is going back to Nantes in January, that is almost certain and by then will Adeleye still be making the team? If Enyimba's Ikwuowem comes in and plays a good game is there anyone coming back anytime soon to drop him to the bench? He will be the much needed backup, for me that was a wasted slot

What pressing issues are there at LB? We have Collins and Idowu. Ikwuowem is on the U20 team. He wouldn't displace either of them because he is not as convincing defensively as he is going forward.

tbaba1234:
The worst invitation is that of Ezenwa, the man does not play every week but continues to get invited. Our journalists should ask Rohr tough questions.

Agreed without any ounce or iota of disagreement. Someone who isn't even 2nd choice in his local team. How Theo Afe is being overlooked for Ezenwa beats my imagination.

komekn:


The claim of bad belle and negative prejudice towards Nigerian born players is simply nonsensical balderdash. Made by those who are the very thing they accuse others to be, “As a man thinketh so he is “

My approach gives no preferential treatment to a player because you were born in Nigeria. There is a universal standard that is used to judge all players irrespective of nationality that standard does not change because you are Nigerian. What you would like is for me to create a standard for Nigerian players born in Nigeria and birthed from our local leagues or academies.

I am knowledge biased towards the UK if you want to call it that. I have in-depth participatory and experiential knowledge of the English football system. That knowledge and participation creates network and that network creates access. Which in turn gives me understanding from an English perspective of expectations, standards, etc

English football is different than the continental style, its more physical, intense and a lot faster to some that means better, it’s a matter of preference. You do not assess a player with a Nigerian unit of measurement but an all-encompassing one. I have had to learn what we consider in Nigeria as exceptional attributes may amount to nothing in England. So doing rainbow flicks, nut megs and dancing on the ball may look very pleasing to the eye, in England, without end product that will amount to “TIME WAISTING”

You mentioned three players you claim I have been very biased towards and show great undue HATRED to them. Namely Isaac Success, Osimhen and KC. So let’s analyse objectively without fear or favour. Not with emotive favoritism and preference not based on performance.

This is Isaac Success’s third season in the EPL, he cost £12.5 million he was bought as a striker with great promise and expectation. Ages ago I started to get reports off the record through the network about him having an attitude problem and issues of gross indiscipline. Being an EPL player is an incredible privilege and opportunity. I don’t expect any one to need to be motivated and disciplined to meet the required standard. Then coming from Nigeria knowing our situations back home that should never happen my biased opinion.

Here is a player arrives at Watford FC three years ago and is found to be unfit, then he has discipline issues then shockingly is found to be overweight. Add petrol to fire he then gets into a drunken fight with 4 prostitutes in a hotel and refuses to pay them. He is lucky the club can not afford to rip up his contract otherwise he would be gone. Now what would you call that a great return on your £12 million investment please tell me or would you without bias say, what waste of money and hence the tag, “WASTEMAN” This season he has to sit up , he has shown some promise but that’s all. When he starts a game some of you act like he has won the Ballon dor. Now may ask you who is being emotive and biased.

Osimhen was invited to the SE when he has done nothing he couldn’t get into the Wolfsburg team. Now in his third season in Europe he is now in lower league and team and he is doing good. But to reach the higher standards there is a very long way to go. His call up was never justified when you had far better proven players available. That’s a simple objective assessment. But some of you being emotive tagged him special talent on the basis of past youthful glories. I did not. And to date do not feel there is any justification for his inclusion. My objective opinion means hate to you.

Finally, KC he was bought for £25 million as a striker and has never lived up to the billing we even had some of us putting him on par with Mbappe. I said ages ago the true test of his quality, will be when he leaves city and doesn’t have world class players around him. That test has come and quite honestly, he has failed to match the expectations. Second season and not more than 6 goals in the EPL. We have changed the goal posts so many times where he is concerned there is now no longer any goal post to change. KC is a very good player but currently and since he left city he simply has been a poor investment for £25 million. To whom much is given much is expected.

If this is what you call hate, player bashing then there are too many caught up in a delusion that we have world class players. Its not hate but simple reality.

What you want me to do is create a double standard, the team needs to change for him, or the manager is not being fair to him, Oh the fans are being biased, you need to appreciate his background its not easy for him, etc, etc I don't look at these players in isolation but in the context of general standards used to equate all players not just Nigerian players. These are expectations not created by me but the clubs. i can add i talk to players, ex-players, coaches, heads of recruitment, players agents often and then the odd Manager I know.

What you are asking me to do is to look at Nigerian players differently from their peers that would be positive discrimination from the perspective of a Nigerian. But that is not being real but deceptive telling a player he is doing well when he is not. That is setting him up to fail by telling him lies , its deception.

Oga don't twist my words, I didn't say hate, I said bad bele. Don't try to justify your bad bele towards Isaac Success with that bailey's scandal because ur bad bele towards Isaac Success was shown the day u queried a La Liga list of top young players saying he didn't score enough goals at Granada to be on that list. BTW we both know Watford could afford to rip his contract up if they wanted but they didn't because a blind man could see that the boy was special. This leads us to why I say ur idea about football is flawed or veiled by god knows what. Wilfred Zaha is one of the most exciting players in England but yet he doesn't score 100 goals. Iwobi nko? If all u do is look for stats at the end of a match I feel sorry for u because u are missing what is important about football. Isaac Success has been pivotal to his team as of late not because he is scoring hattricks but because he is working towards the team succeeding. Victor Osimhen was being touted by all his coaches and he was working his way into the team but all u saw was that he didn't score goals. Well he took that same great discipline and attitude that his coaches were raving about and applied it in Belgium with a club that wanted him. We all see the result and know that u were wrong. It is clear that ur standard was put to shame by these players. If

Earthquake1:


There is overwhelming pressure to include local based players

and he couldn't find someone who has at least played a game recently?

BascoVanVeli:


Kano lost a 2 goal lead against Katsina in the semifinals.

Adeleye terminated his contract with IUFC he has publicly bashed the club so I am sure they are not looking to do him any favours any time soon.

Rohr likes the defender. Plus IUFC competed in the Aiteo cup so it is not like the guy has not touched a ball in 4 months or something.

did he compete in the Aiteo Cup with them?