Obi1kenobi:


It is. When a state like Anambra with its massive bank deposit mobilization and commercial potential raises less in IGR than Cross River or Kwara, we're doing a bad job. It's not as if high IGR states like Ogun are overtaxing residents. My dad for example owns apartment blocks in Mkpor and told me he hasn't paid any tenement rate in several years. You need to generate revenue if you want your government to have the capacity to live up to its responsibilities in public infrastructure and healthcare, pay salaries, pensions and entitlements, expand the civil service and improve their quality of life (Anambra civil servants, including graduates, are horribly paid), stimulate the economy, invest in productive ventures like mining and agriculture etc. We're like a century behind countries like Switzerland, so I don't see that as the best of analogies. Sure, Switzerland has one of the lowest tax rates among its European neighbors, but healthcare and utilities costs in Switzerland are significantly more expensive too than their neighbors, with less subsidies from the government. It all still balances out. Swiss people don't have a higher quality of life than Swedes or Norwegians or Danes. The bottomline is we need to improve on the efficiency of our civil service. One of the reasons for the lack of professionalism you alluded to is simply the Anambra state civil service for example is not worth working for. I had a cousin who worked there years ago under Peter Obi and his salary was something like N20,000 a month: a graduate.

I agree with your last paragraph. I hoped a grassroots driven movement like IPOB could really inspire change in local politics, but they chose to chase ghosts instead. Basically saying the reason we're in a mess is all because of "zoogeria". Not that the Mbadinujus, and Kalus, and Orjis, and Nnamanis, and Egwus were also useless governors, or that our Senators and Representatives only go to the National Assembly to share money (remember the budget crises this year where money was taken from the 2nd Niger Bridge project and the disgraceful incompetence of our representatives). It's all because of Zoogeria.

You make an interesting point about civil service pay. It’s clearly a case of the government pretending to pay the workers while the civil servant pretend to work. You clearly can’t retain quality talent with 20k/month.

When I was in school, I dated a civil servant. I visited her very regularly because the secretariat was close to my school. In the 6 months period, I never saw this babe do a minute of work and she had a whole office to herself.

The point about IGR as a proxy for government effectiveness is not about whether more revenue isn’t better than less revenue but whether additional funds are better utilized by government than if the money is left with individuals. I consider Anambra as a relatively well run state (not withstanding the low wages lol). I understand that they have a deliberate policy of avoiding excessive taxation to encourage growth.

I don’t know much about Lagos but from what people tell me the taxes (on micro businesses) are retrogressive and intrusive while government expenditure is concentrated in the affluent areas. In contrast to Anambra, most states concentrate on beautifying the capital cities and other projects with zilch effect on the welfare of a large proportion of the population. Additionally, these high IGR figures don’t stop them borrowing like down at luck gamblers. So you over tax me today, spend the money to benefit only the well off then over borrow to ensure that my children suffer the same fate (or worse).

I believe that if the money isn’t going to be used judiciously, it’s better left with me to be solve my own problems. On the other hand, if there is a clear vision for the state ( or region), then clearly an efficient system of taxation will be invaluable component in achieving that aim.

You don’t expect IPOB to criticize the SE leadership when that will serve to polarize local support. Additionally, such criticism will divert attention from the core issue which is the illogical structure of the country.

oilPUSSY:


Juliusmma, you can run buy you can't hide.
If you like open one million accounts on nairaland claiming to be Igbo, the arewa/isllamic odour that follows you around will always fetch you out. The odour is too strong for us not to notice

Is your life so miserable that you can't mind your business, rather you are here spending your time to achieve what you you can never achieve online let alone offline ?. Don't be useful to your parents, keep wasting your time and Keep struggling to achieve the impossible.
Shameless amajiri.

no time replying useless post.

NEXT TOPIC, STATE CREATION...


THIS IS THE TOPIC THAT WE ALL LOVE TO TOPIC ABOUT BUT NOBODY IS SURE ABOUT WHERE TO START.


IN ALAIGBO TODAY, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECIDES TO RESTRUCTURE, ARE WE CERTAIN OF WHICH STATES NEED TO BE STRATEGICALLY CREATED FOR NDIIGBO?


LET US DISCUSS STATE CREATION AND FOR THIS WE WILL CERTAINLY NEED SOMEONE WITH LINKE TO PETER OBI, BECOS HE IS THE MOST RELEVANT PERSON IN SE POLITICS AT THE MOMENT.


WAT WE DISCUSS SHOULD BE CARRIED TO PETER OBI.

ckenneths:
THE ORIGIN OF IGBO LAND PLS KNOW YOUR ORIGIN IT IS WISE AND EDUCATING TO KNOW YOUR HISTORY AND FAMILY TREE LINE AND WHERE YOU ORIGINATED FROM .
They documented some of our history in your bible but you don't know. IGBOS BIBLICAL GENEALOGY.
Let's begin according to Genesis 29 verse
30: JACOB had
twelve (12) sons namely:
#1. Ruben
#2. Simeon
#3. Levi
#4. Judah
#5. Dan
#6. Naphtali
#7. Gad
#8. Asher
#9. Issachar
#10. Zebulun
#11. Joseph
#12. Benjamin.
The 7th son was GAD.
and according to Genesis 46 vs16. GAD
had seven (7) sons
namely:
Ziphon
Haggi
Shunni
Ezbon
Eri
Arodi
Areli.
Sometime in Middle East, famine struck
and Jacob moved
with his family and about 70 other
relations to Egypt.
But before then Joseph (which was 11th
son of Jacob) had
already been sold to Egypt by his brothers,
where he was
made Governor General under a King
Pharaoh.
As time goes on when the Pharaoh that
knows Joseph died,
they started suffering persecutions from
the hand of
Egyptians but ERI the 5th son of GAD
foresaw the danger,
persecution, and wickedness coming and
he decided to
leave in time with his two younger
brothers, ARODI & ARELI
with one of his half brothers.
They travelled through Ethiopia, Sudan
and down towards
West Africa through river nile and landed
at a place known
as AGULERI today through Omambala river
in Anambra
state, around 1305 BC.
(I) ERI established and lived close to the
Omambala river.
He was wealthy and wise like his great
grand father
(Abiama) Abraham.
That is why Anambra state has the
highest number of rich
people in Africa.
ERI; had five (5) sons:
(1) Agulu
(2) Atta
(3) Oba
(4) Hebrew/Ibo
(5) Menri
(1) AGULU; as the first son stayed back
and established in
the place known as Agulu-ERI (Agulu son
of ERI) in
Anambra state.
(2) ATTA; moved to upward North and
established a place
known as "IGALA Kingdom " and that is
why their overall
KING is known as "Atta of IGALA" in Kogi
state
(3) OBA; left and founded a place known
as Oba Kingdom in
Anambra state.
(4) HEBREW; which have been changed to
mean Hibo or Ibo.
He was very powerful spiritual man and
that is why people
from this area are always very spiritual.
He left and founded Igbo-Etiti, Igbo-
Adagbe, Igbo- Eze
(within Nsukka and parts of Anambra).
(5) MENRI left and founded a place known
as ""AgukwuNRI".
NRI Kingdom.
(II). ARODI moved to a place known as
"ARO- CHUKWU".
Very industrious and good at arts and
crafts.
(e.g: Aba Ngwa people of Aba).
ARODI gave birth to:
(1) Nembe
(2) Ngwa
(3) Abakaliki
(4) Ogoni
(5) Afikpo
(6) Aro-Ikot Ekpene (Akwa Ibom )
(7) Aro- Echie (Rivers state)
( Arondizuogu.
During slave trade Aro spread all over the
world. America,
Cuba, Brazil and "ARO-festival" is always
been celebrated
in CUBA.
(III). ARELI was a man with a lot of
Wisdom. The native
tongue of his descendants is today
known as "Central
Igbo". And people from this Area have the
highest number of
graduates and professors in Igbo land.
ARELI gave birth to:
(1) Owerri
(2) Umuahia
(3) Diobu (River state)
(4) Okigwe
(5) Orlu
(6) Nkwerre
(7) Elele (Mba Ise)
(9) Mba Ano, etc...
ERI half brothers moved and founded
IJAW nationality and
some parts of Edo State and many other
parts of Niger
Delta.
EVIDENCES and SIMILARITIES:
Now to verify some of the things I have
said above.
(1) If you get to Aguleri there is a
particular house known as
OBI GAD (house of GAD).
Remember GAD was the 7th son of Jacob
(Gen 29:30) and
GAD had five (5) sons of which the last
three (3) who were
ERI, ARODI and ARELI and some of their
half brothers left
Egypt to West Africa).
The OBI GAD was the resting or relaxing
place for ERI and
his brothers and they named it OBI GAD in
order to honour
their father (GAD, the 7th son of Israel).
This OBI GAD was
the first house built in Igboland. This is
the reason why
every Igbo man always build a place called
OBI/OBU in his
house in honour of his father and mainly
for relaxation and
in the olden days, there is always a family
shrine or little
oracle, and why they worship Oracle then
was because they
left EGYPT before GOD gave 10
commandments to Moses
for the Israelites, of which one of the 10
commandments is
against idol worship. (even though
modern day Igbos now
build OBI as outside BAR without any
Shrine, while some
Christians don't build OBI anymore
because of their beliefs).
It can also be Called ERI TEMPLE.
The Obi GAD also serve as a Consulting
place for some
royal fathers from other community that
have Direct root to
ERI.
ANOTHER EVIDENCE.
(2) At the Burial place of ERI, there is a
TRINITY TREE
standing on the grave site.
These are three Trees but are strongly
United and
connected by Single Tap Root.
(3) "ADA" means first Daughter in Israel
(Gen 4 vs 19- 20)
and it means the same thing in Igbo
language.
(4) Before an Igbo man makes a
contribution in a public
gathering, he will shout "Igbo kwenu "
and the people will
respond "Yah" and "Yah" is short form of
" Yahweh.
Yahweh is the name of Jewish GOD.
(5) STAR OF DAVID AND some bronze
medals Encrypted
with Hebrew Codes were found in many
part of the Igbo
land.
(6) Israelis (Jews) manufactures 80% the
world weapons
and 70% of USA weapons.
Just like Igbos manufactured 80% of all
the weapons used
during Biafran. Which no other African
nation has done.
Igbos were only defeated during the war
due to Hunger
policy.
By now, we would have manufacturing
war weapons for
Africans, and no country will have to go
outside Africa to
purchase weapons to fight Insurgency, if
not for the bad
policy of Nigeria.
Igbos are the most highly technologically
inclined people in
the whole of Africa.
You will also notice that Igbos always
handle the post of
science and technology and industry in
most Nigeria
ministerial post.
The first West African billionaire is from
Nnewi: Chief Sir
Louis Ojukwu.
The black Indigenous Vehicle
Manufacturers eg:
INNOSON MOTORS AND
COSHARIS MOTORS,
Indigenous MOBILE PHONE AND COMPUTER
MANUFACTURERS eg:
(A) SLOK MOBILE (Orji Uzo kalu)..
(B) ZINOX COMPUTERS (Leo Stan Ekeh).
(C) SLOT MOBILE (NNAMDI EZEIGBO)
(D) Father of internet and founder of the
fastest computer in
the world (PHILIP EMEAGWALI) etc.
(7) We carry home our dead ones just like
the Israelites
(Gen 49 vs 29-50). (Just like the Israelites,
we were led or
ruled by Elders and Priest.
There was no King in Israel until Samuel
appointed Saul as
the King of Israel and that was why
Israelites were led by
Prophet Moses and so many other
Prophets.
CONCLUSION: Isreali Ambassador (Noah
Katz) Confirmed
that Igbos are Jews. (Check Daily Sun
Newspapers 28th
March 2004).
Therefore, Igbo are the Engine Block and
Japan of Africa ,
no wonder an Author with international
reputation,
"Emefiena Ezennia" said that "In Biafra
Africa Died". We are
good people, we love our neighbours, we
accommodate
anybody. We can live everywhere and
develop anywhere. It
is in our blood to develop.
We need Igbos to develop Nigeria, Africa
and even the world
as a whole, we are God's people, a chosen
generation!
Nigeria should stop the marginalization of
the Igbos and the
Biafrans or let them have their freedom.
For the Igbos we should know who we
are, dream and think
bigger, for you are the son of the most
high God, the God of
Abraham (Abiama) believe in yourself and
work harder as it
is in your blood, every Igbo parents should
endeavour to
teach their children Igbo language and
culture all the time! Mba nile nwere ihe ha jiri di EBUBE# EDUCATION AND UNITY IS WISDOM. share this knowledge and wisdom to 1000 people and give me back yes �
you will see the power of God of Israel in 7 day

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This is truly excellent chronological flow of verifiable FACTS!

I'm waiting for the faceless Yoruba goons to come here and spread their fake census numbers.Like, 99% of those that speak Igbo in Nigeria are actually Igbira people and other fantastic concoctions they love to do in Nigeria.
Yeye people

On state creation for Ndiigbo, the state that seems less complicated and strategically relevant to create is one out of Enugu North.


The Nsukka axis, bring in Igbos scattered in the middle belt areas of Benue and Kogi.


I dont know wat the state should be called but creating that state appears not to create much headache.

The state is called Adada state.


It should not be created without capturing Igbo in the middle belt area of Benue and Kogi.



This is the most relevant state to be created out of the present day SE.

I have noticed that aside Adada state, every other state creates a headache and complication.


Igbo land should get at least two states, whilst other regions get one.


Igbo definately need one more state, and even if state creation is not on the agenda, Adada state should be created in the SE.


One state first has to be created in the SE before talks of more state creation for all regions in Nigeria.


The southeast have been short changed long enough.

Curlieweed:

The point about IGR as a proxy for government effectiveness is not about whether more revenue isn’t better than less revenue but whether additional funds are better utilized by government than if the money is left with individuals. I consider Anambra as a relatively well run state (not withstanding the low wages lol). I understand that they have a deliberate policy of avoiding excessive taxation to encourage growth.

I don’t know much about Lagos but from what people tell me the taxes (on micro businesses) are retrogressive and intrusive while government expenditure is concentrated in the affluent areas. In contrast to Anambra, most states concentrate on beautifying the capital cities and other projects with zilch effect on the welfare of a large proportion of the population. Additionally, these high IGR figures don’t stop them borrowing like down at luck gamblers. So you over tax me today, spend the money to benefit only the well off then over borrow to ensure that my children suffer the same fate (or worse).

I believe that if the money isn’t going to be used judiciously, it’s better left with me to be solve my own problems. On the other hand, if there is a clear vision for the state ( or region), then clearly an efficient system of taxation will be invaluable component in achieving that aim.

You don’t expect IPOB to criticize the SE leadership when that will serve to polarize local support. Additionally, such criticism will divert attention from the core issue which is the illogical structure of the country.

This is the point though: I don't believe it is a deliberate economic strategy. It is an oversight. If you have a well organized civil service, you'll earn good money. You'll plug tax-avoidance loopholes in the system. You can't compare Anambra and Cross River in economic output, but Cross River earns more because their civil service is more efficient. Same with Enugu which generates more in IGR than Anambra. These are failings that need to be addressed. I use my dad as an example who was an FIRS director, and is consequently sensitive about his tax obligations and a willing tax payer. Yet, according to him, he hasn't paid tenement rate in several years for the flats he owns in Nkpor. Free money that the state government is missing out on due to their lack of due diligence. I believe it is mismanagement, not a deliberate strategy. I stress this matter of IGR a lot because we are the group that are loudest about "restructuring" (that is even ignoring the IPOB fanatics who want a schism). Even the Niger Delta that have the most to gain from it don't make as much noise about restructuring as we do. Yet, we are failing at fundamental things to make it a viable reality. Without a healthy tax base, our public infrastructure will collapse and we'll be pauperized. Sectors like education, health, transportation, agriculture, mining, waste disposal and public utilities etc will always need to be driven by the government and the money to fund it must be there.

Yes, more revenue might mean more waste and embezzlement, but it is our duty to ensure we hold our leaders accountable.

hammerFC:
I have noticed that aside Adada state, every other state creates a headache and complication.


Igbo land should get at least two states, whilst other regions get one.


Igbo definately need one more state, and even if state creation is not on the agenda, Adada state should be created in the SE.


One state first has to be created in the SE before talks of more state creation for all regions in Nigeria.


The southeast have been short changed long enough.

Nigeria is far too fragmented, with far too many states and far too many ethnicities (where similar groups like Isoko and Urhobo, or Efik and Ibibio, or Igboid groups claim distinct identities). Something like 30 states in Nigeria are not economically viable. This states-creation obsession only serves to further entrench the status quo of states sharing money from Abuja rather than looking to stand on their feet as viable economies in their own right. Enugu was ripped in two to form Anambra. Provided a big chunk of land for Ebonyi, and now people want it balkanized farther to form another state? Why?
Only reason that makes sense which I've heard is the extra National Assembly seats. But that is not good enough reason to override economic considerations.

Obi1kenobi:


Nigeria is far too fragmented, with far too many states and far too many ethnicities (where similar groups like Isoko and Urhobo, or Efik and Ibibio, or Igboid groups claim distinct identities). Something like 30 states in Nigeria are not economically viable. This states-creation obsession only serves to further entrench the status quo of states sharing money from Abuja rather than looking to stand on their feet as viable economies in their own right. Enugu was ripped in two to form Anambra. Provided a big chunk of land for Ebonyi, and now people want it balkanized farther to form another state? Why?
Only reason that makes sense which I've heard is the extra National Assembly seats. But that is not good enough reason to override economic considerations.

How does giving a region with just 5 states, one more state, to put it on equal footing with its peers, going to solve or create more issues?

The SE is in critical need of at least one more state.

Adada is the best and safest option. It provides a unique opportunity to capture our people in the middlebelt into the SE

Obi1kenobi:


This is the point though: I don't believe it is a deliberate economic strategy. It is an oversight. If you have a well organized civil service, you'll earn good money. You'll plug tax-avoidance loopholes in the system. You can't compare Anambra and Cross River in economic output, but Cross River earns more because their civil service is more efficient. Same with Enugu which generates more in IGR than Anambra. These are failings that need to be addressed. I use my dad as an example who was an FIRS director, and is consequently sensitive about his tax obligations and a willing tax payer. Yet, according to him, he hasn't paid tenement rate in several years for the flats he owns in Nkpor. Free money that the state government is missing out on due to their lack of due diligence. I believe it is mismanagement, not a deliberate strategy. I stress this matter of IGR a lot because we are the group that are loudest about "restructuring" (that is even ignoring the IPOB fanatics who want a schism). Even the Niger Delta that have the most to gain from it don't make as much noise about restructuring as we do. Yet, we are failing at fundamental things to make it a viable reality. Without a healthy tax base, our public infrastructure will collapse and we'll be pauperized. Sectors like education, health, transportation, agriculture, mining, waste disposal and public utilities etc will always need to be driven by the government and the money to fund it must be there.

Yes, more revenue might mean more waste and embezzlement, but it is our duty to ensure we hold our leaders accountable.

It’s interesting that the two states you mentioned (Enugu and CRS) are older states. These states had better infrastructure for tax collection than the newer states which in most cases have not developed such systems. It goes to show you that most of these issues are structural. I guess that also kind of gives some credence to your “oversight “ assertion.

I don’t think the state executives are too enamoured with “restructuring”. Why spoil a good thing? Of course we have already talked about their short term focus. In the SE, it’s mainly Ohaneze ( with frustrated political ambitions and have the luxury of being outside looking in) as well as ordinary citizens that are more in favour of restructuring. The whole country will gain from restructuring in the longer term despite real short term pain in many areas. Actually, that is the only solution to our myriad issues. Hopefully, state (or regional) political executive offices will be less attractive to the kind of carpet baggers we have currently and we can attract people with some vision. Accountability should also improve because there is no one else to blame.

I think the tenement rate is a local government tax. That is the tragedy of the decision of most state executives to literally abolish that tier of government. In most countries, local governments (or municipalities) are responsible for streets (road maintenance), sewage, some utilities, basic education, waste disposal, police and a number of other services. They are usually financed mainly by property taxes. In Nigeria, the LGs do almost fvck all. Citizens have to provide these services for themselves while still paying taxes to state government which is very unfair especially to wage earners who can’t escape PAYE.

That is also why the effects of restructuring (not withstanding the loss of revenue) will have less an impact on the lives of ordinary people than you may expect. Currently, the actual impact of state governments on the lives of most ordinary Nigerians is very limited. For example, I saw people praising Mr Umahi for building flyovers and “glass tunnels”. In Kano state, they built the longest flyover in the country. Amaechi left a half completed monorail system in Rivers state. How do these help the ordinary person who is struggling to make $1:00/day?

Curlieweed:


It’s interesting that the two states you mentioned (Enugu and CRS) are older states. These states had better infrastructure for tax collection than the newer states which in most cases have not developed such systems. It goes to show you that most of these issues are structural. I guess that also kind of gives some credence to your “oversight “ assertion.

I don’t think the state executives are too enamoured with “restructuring”. Why spoil a good thing? Of course we have already talked about their short term focus. In the SE, it’s mainly Ohaneze ( with frustrated political ambitions and have the luxury of being outside looking in) as well as ordinary citizens that are more in favour of restructuring. The whole country will gain from restructuring in the longer term despite real short term pain in many areas. Actually, that is the only solution to our myriad issues. Hopefully, state (or regional) political executive offices will be less attractive to the kind of carpet baggers we have currently and we can attract people with some vision. Accountability should also improve because there is no one else to blame.

I think the tenement rate is a local government tax. That is the tragedy of the decision of most state executives to literally abolish that tier of government. In most countries, local governments (or municipalities) are responsible for streets (road maintenance), sewage, some utilities, basic education, waste disposal, police and a number of other services. They are usually financed mainly by property taxes. In Nigeria, the LGs do almost fvck all. Citizens have to provide these services for themselves while still paying taxes to state government which is very unfair especially to wage earners who can’t escape PAYE.

That is also why the effects of restructuring (not withstanding the loss of revenue) will have less an impact on the lives of ordinary people than you may expect. Currently, the actual impact of state governments on the lives of most ordinary Nigerians is very limited. For example, I saw people praising Mr Umahi for building flyovers and “glass tunnels”. In Kano state, they built the longest flyover in the country. Amaechi left a half completed monorail system in Rivers state. How do these help the ordinary person who is struggling to make $1:00/day?

If we get an opportunity to create one more state, let us push for Adada.

hammerFC:



How does giving a region with just 5 states, one more state, to put it on equal footing with its peers, going to solve or create more issues?

The SE is in critical need of at least one more state.

Adada is the best and safest option. It provides a unique opportunity to capture our people in the middlebelt into the SE

Putting it bluntly, the SE doesn't deserve a 6th state. The "equality" you're demanding is unrealistic given the tiny size, population, and cultural homogeneity of the SE compared to other regions. Unless the 6th state is added from another region to the SE, it's a fruitless exercise to chop up what already have. Nigeria has more than enough states as it is and don't need farther chopping up. We could have 100 states in Nigeria and somebody will still be whining about marginalisation. Let us work with what we already have and make it work.

New one from Patoranking! Whay say?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM_Y2zr-BpU

I hope that we will get to a stand in the SE that every new housing development area is well planned out before plots are sold and buildings are erected. It is slowly happening,at least in estates within some state capitals, but there are still too many slums in the making whereby the area were not well surveyed before plots were sold. Leading to haphazard erection of buildings and poorly planned streets.

State governments must seriously pay attention to new estates being developed in the state to make sure they are well planned standard layouts fit for human habitation before plots are sold out.

hammerFC:




If we get an opportunity to create one more state, let us push for Adada.

I prefer Etiti state that will involve all the whole SE states than only Adada for Nsukka axis, after all Ngwa people also needs Aba state

Xander85:
New one from Patoranking! Whay say?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM_Y2zr-BpU

Have you listened to Illbliss 40feet container?

Obi1kenobi:


Putting it bluntly, the SE doesn't deserve a 6th state. The "equality" you're demanding is unrealistic given the tiny size, population, and cultural homogeneity of the SE compared to other regions. Unless the 6th state is added from another region to the SE, it's a fruitless exercise to chop up what already have. Nigeria has more than enough states as it is and don't need farther chopping up. We could have 100 states in Nigeria and somebody will still be whining about marginalisation. Let us work with what we already have and make it work.

Whether u put it blunt or sharp, the SE are going to get a 6th state to be on par with other regions.

murphyibiam15:

I prefer Etiti state that will involve all the whole SE states than only Adada for Nsukka axis, after all Ngwa people also needs Aba state

The best state for now is Adada, so we can removeour Igbo people from teh middlebelt.

hammerFC:



The best state for now is Adada, so we can removeour Igbo people from teh middlebelt.

the igbos in Benue can join Ebonyi, those in kogi should join Enugu and Anambra states.

Etiti state is the fairest consideration...IMHO

murphyibiam15:

the igbos in Benue can join Ebonyi, those in kogi should join Enugu and Anambra states.

Etiti state is the fairest consideration...IMHO

No, Igbo as a people dont need any more state. Any move geared towards state creation should be strategically focused on retrieving our people delibrately cut off from us.

This is y i need guys here that have access to Peter Obi or Ik Ekweremadu.

Adada is the least contentous one and must capture Igbo people in the middlebelt.

hammerFC:


No, Igbo as a people dont need any more state. Any move geared towards state creation should be strategically focused on retrieving our people delibrately cut off from us.

This is y i need guys here that have access to Peter Obi or Ik Ekweremadu.

Adada is the least contentous one and must capture Igbo people in the middlebelt.

I was with Ike today, but no chance to ask questions. Such a humble power broker.

hammerFC:


Whether u put it blunt or sharp, the SE are going to get a 6th state to be on par with other regions.

Not anytime soon. And even if the SE get another state, other regions have been lobbying hard too for new states. They're not going to create an extra state in the SE, and leave the states at 37. I can't remember who said that at the last Confab, 50-something states or so were proposed. There will never be states equity because some geopolitical zones deserve more states than others. It's that simple really. The SE fails to make a case on 3 basis: the cultural homogeneity (the SE is the most culturally homogeneous zone in the country by far); the population; and the landmass. On all 3 counts, it is the least deserving region of having another state.

vanbonattel:


I was with Ike today, but no chance to ask questions. Such a humble power broker.

Are u kidding me?

He is the right person for this specific matter.

I personally think, he championed the Adada state creation.

Is he from the Nsukka axis?

murphyibiam15:

I prefer Etiti state that will involve all the whole SE states than only Adada for Nsukka axis, after all Ngwa people also needs Aba state

Etiti is actually most ridiculous proposed option. I'd rather support Njaba or Adada. You're asking for trouble creating a state like that with very different clans from different states merged together who everybody knows will engage themselves in a heated power tussle. Those that proposed it haven't thought it out well, and some of the groups involved have rejected the plans.

hammerFC:


Are u kidding me?

He is the right person for this specific matter.

I personally think, he championed the Adada state creation.

Is he from the Nsukka axis?

I think he's from the west of Enugu. I think Awgu lg

Obi1kenobi:


Not anytime soon. And even if the SE get another state, other regions have been lobbying hard too for new states. They're not going to create an extra state in the SE, and leave the states at 37. I can't remember who said that at the last Confab, 50-something states or so were proposed. There will never be states equity because some geopolitical zones deserve more states than others. It's that simple really. The SE fails to make a case on 3 basis: the cultural homogeneity (the SE is the most culturally homogeneous zone in the country by far); the population; and the landmass. On all 3 counts, it is the least deserving region of having another state.

Yeah!

We did not stop dem from creating states in other region.

We insist on equal number of states for every region.

Since SE is on a deficit, they create one first for the SE and then extra states for everybody including the SE.

vanbonattel:


I think he's from the west of Enugu. I think Awgu lg

Awgu has a very beautiful landscape.


Ekweremadu have truily been an asset to Ndiigbo.

hammerFC:


Awgu has a very beautiful landscape.


Ekweremadu have truily been an asset to Ndiigbo.

Ekweremmadu is from Aninri LGA and not Awgu even though most people mix it up..Ekweremmadu I think won't have such powers he has now during the next senate