Good finally people are speaking up.

kiekie1 & Co generally defeats the purpose of this thread with constant spaming of several pages with advert.

I don't even want to give my own personal experience with kiekie1 coz that may make him loose him potential clients.

In all please let this thread return to its original intent which is a DIY thread.

Thank you

Malevonent:


hahaha, @ bolded, so true, transacting with him , i always end up feeling somehow at the end of the day, his style of marketing cum sales could really fare better with some upgrdes, i made the decision not to patronize him again too, unless i got no other choice.no need writing an epistle of unsavoury or irritating things he does, i hope he reads this and takes up a course on marketing , customer relations and emotional intelligence, in the present day world, his present sales style is no longer fashionable .

U couldn't have said it better

U need a lot of maturity and patience to do business with a Fellow like kiekie1.

First thing u get as a reply is an account number and very evasive and most times picks offence when u ask him of specs in details.

Ps: Can they (marketers) stop spamming the thread with their ads.

Back to thread

Please what is the difference between a Stabilizer and a Servo i know this question has been asked before

nonoski:
Back to thread

Please what is the difference between a Stabilizer and a Servo i know this question has been asked before

i guess you meant btw a servo stabilizer and the common [relay] stabilizer.
a servo stabilizer uses a servo, which is a circular coil that revolves [basic analogy, you could google more for better explanations], so as voltage is flunctuating, the servo moves and picks and adjusts voltages accordingly, you just hear a soft whine, a relay stabilizer, uses relay, and when voltage flunctuates, you hear the clicking of various relays as they work to pick and adjust voltages.

servos are faster, less noisy, less moving abi clicking parts, thus less prone to fail, local electricians are not so good at repairing them.
i prefer a servo, anytime, anyday

@frankie, you guys have said it all, let him adjust his style and all would be well with him

chyk101:
I am not one to normally post on Nairaland or disparage people but just to add to what others have said about marketers above. My personal experience is with the guy called kiekie1.

I contacted him a year ago to ask about thundervolt 6v 400 ah batteries which he had advertised on this thread. On sending him a whatsapp message with questions regarding the product, his first response was to post his account details. I asked a few questions and his responses were tardy and unsatisfactory and as a result, I tried to probe further. He became rude and actually said people like me who do not know about inverters and batteries should allow people like him make choices for us. I was so annoyed because we were discussing a purchase of almost a million and told him I had been using inverters and batteries for 6 years. Possible before he even started selling solar products. I ended the conversation.

A few weeks after, I decided to make the purchase and on sending him another whatsapp message, I realized that I had been blocked by him. Well, I assumed this was a one off and let it slide.

A couple of months ago, a lady I know wanted a luminous inverter and I asked her to contact the same kiekie1. She did on whatsapp but he did not have the 1.5kva inverter she needed. He had a newer model which was 20K more expensive so she couldn't afford it at that time and she told him so. When the money was ready in another 4 days and she contacted him again on whatsapp, she found out she had been blocked too. Possibly because he tried to push a new product on her and she said she didn't want it.

As far as I am concerned, people like kiekie1 should not be in business. He is rude and arrogant. This guy is a regular Nigerian business man who thinks he is king and customers should not have an opinion because he considers himself an expert. Look at the last 30 pages of this thread, he neither contributes nor answers questions. He just spams the thread with inflated prices and asks you to contact him on whatsapp to discuss further. This guys just defeat the general idea of the thread which is to offer ideas and solutions to DIY enthusiasts.

kiekie1, if you read this message, adjust your ways, else you would loose customers faster than you imagine. I personally will NEVER deal or recommend you to anyone again.

All, sorry for the long post. Just needed to address this.

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earthrealm:


servos are faster, less noisy, less moving abi clicking parts, thus less prone to fail, local electricians are not so good at repairing them.
i prefer a servo, anytime, anyday

Am interested in this discussion, can you recommend a good servo product? I need one between 10kva and 12kva and I will also like to have one with wide band voltage, say 140v to 280v.

Regards

hardywaltz:
Good finally people are speaking up.

kiekie1 & Co generally defeats the purpose of this thread with constant spaming of several pages with advert.

I don't even want to give my own personal experience with kiekie1 coz that may make him loose him potential clients.

In all please let this thread return to its original intent which is a DIY thread.

Thank you

ojeysky:


Am interested in this discussion, can you recommend a good servo product? I need one between 10kva and 12kva and I will also like to have one with wide band voltage, say 140v to 280v.

Regards

Matsunaga Stavol

ojeysky:


Am interested in this discussion, can you recommend a good servo product? I need one between 10kva and 12kva and I will also like to have one with wide band voltage, say 140v to 280v.

Regards

i got an A&E 10kva wall mount servo stablizer in 2015, after my 10kva servo prag failed after 1yr, and prag was unable to fix it. the A&E is still serving me ok to date., go for 12kva or 15kva if your voltage gets very low..<120v in your place, as the stabilizer load bearing capability reduces with lower voltage, a 10kva stab becomes a 3kva @100v input

mrsdaniel:


Very apt & matured opinion ! He is only but a human who is certain to win some & loose some , ever active here even when forum is as dull as a deserted house sometimes . He is a rare gem , no fraud nor blacklist ! Am sure same Kiekie1 is busy supplying as usual , we only end up making him very popular by Gods grace

I've been Kiekie's client twice and as recently as this evening , I received my panels way billed from him to me. (Not minding he wasn't impressed at the price he had to let it go).
Past delivery of Panel roof rails, clips , remote display and breakers had all been done in the past without even as much as a physical handshake with him. I still remember his "throw in" gift of a temperature sensor which wasn't part of our bargain then.

Well I'm always of the opinion that the customer is always right... as much as I may not complain about he's sincerity, other clients may be displeased if they find any weakness in his dealings.
That being said,
Same ads posted here is what got my attention to get these panels purchased from him. But if the forum agrees that its a problem then it provides an avenue for more ideas doesn't it?...lets have a weekly black Friday for ads...whats wrong with a little innovation

For me...honesty and mutual respect comes first...other emotions that may lead to bad mouthing someones business gets relegated to the background or sorted directly with the person in question to get it off my chest. Many gurus here do refer newbies to reliable sellers without referral bonuses
I'm sure there will be more past and present customers like me that will say he's been a reliable supplier /retailer... and personally the complaints might just be isolated events that will eventually be given a well soothing explanation.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time”.....thanks kiekie.

earthrealm:




i guess you meant btw a servo stabilizer and the common [relay] stabilizer.
a servo stabilizer uses a servo, which is a circular coil that revolves [basic analogy, you could google more for better explanations], so as voltage is flunctuating, the servo moves and picks and adjusts voltages accordingly, you just hear a soft whine, a relay stabilizer, uses relay, and when voltage flunctuates, you hear the clicking of various relays as they work to pick and adjust voltages.

servos are faster, less noisy, less moving abi clicking parts, thus less prone to fail, local electricians are not so good at repairing them.
i prefer a servo, anytime, anyday

@frankie, you guys have said it all, let him adjust his style and all would be well with him

Thanks

mctfopt:


Matsunaga Stavol

Please where can one buy this product...

earthrealm:

i got an A&E 10kva wall mount servo stablizer in 2015, after my 10kva servo prag failed after 1yr, and prag was unable to fix it. the A&E is still serving me ok to date., go for 12kva or 15kva if your voltage gets very low..>120 in your place, as the stabilizer load bearing capability reduces with lower voltage, a 10kva stab becomes a 3kva @100v input

Thank you

Let me try and defuse the tension a bit

Every time I read from this MrsDaniel account, I smile because I can't help but feel it is KieKie himself writing... a pseudonym/pseudoaccount as it were or at the very least the hand behind the hand. The grammar and choice of words and pattern of expression are pretty similar, nearly verbatim IMAO...

That said, everyone can only improve - since clear feedback has been given let us leave this matter alone and discuss some fun topics e.g what are the best value Lithium batteries as of now and what is the future of energy storage. I know a lot of enthusiasts have bought and used or researched various Lithium based flavors.

mrsdaniel:


Quite a lengthy funny story .. The Kiekie1 we all know and for few who have met with him isn't all as entailed here although can always be busy which isn't abnormal . Blocking might be triggered by personal reasons but I believe he will intelligently reply the house as usual as a popular man . After airing your personal grievance, he lost a deal with you but not with others . Going far saying "NEVER recommend" looks absolutely ridiculous as a tree dosnt make a forest! So many here read and know the industrious , straightforward, trusted marketer ! In the open market system, I bet you can't be friend to all as he deals with different kind of people daily ! Am sure most will only read , smile and likers always like at any comic relief post which I tag this ! The said marketer is one I have met with in person , if most know him, he only started posting WhatsApp NUMBER recently as he always believes in calls and fast transaction which is not an issue so far as he delivers ! You posted he doesn't contribute but you seriously lied because I myself have never seen you contribute reasonably before coming here to childishly post on a stale lost deal . He contributes , doesn't really spam as most do read/follow his updated posts incase you don't know , transact with him consciously or subconsciously before you even posted about him ! Alaba gates is widely open for you to save few rants incase you don't know .. Let sleeping dogs rest as this lil issue has been treated in past and he still remains RESPECTED by the fathers of the house and noble silent readers of this forum ! We await your diplomatic reply soon Sir Frankie

CC: GeorgeD , Pranil , Chuckdee , Barezzi , Saipro , Abunafiu , Dam5reey , Hisenjos and all other Old founding Ogas in the house

Prag and A&E Dunamis are probably the most popular servo stab products here in Nigeria with visible service center presence.

I got a Prag 10Kva in 2014 and it is still alive and kicking, other folks were not so lucky with their own Prags. I typically recommend the A&E Dunamis servo stabs to clients because of the wider input voltage band - always find it funny that I hear strange noises coming out of the A&E whereas the Prag is more silent when fed thesame input voltage.

A&E appears more failure prone to me probably because of it's design low voltage boost capability - given it is powering a large load, it will suffer more stress trying to clean up 100v input and spit out ~220v on the output side whereas the Prag would have errored out and cut off the power. That said, A&E customer service is superb - probably the best I have ever experienced in Nigeria.

Like Oga Earthrealm rightly said, one must derate the servo stab loading as the input voltage drops else, things could go 'kaput'. This is the key cause of servo stab failure - customer is indoors loading a 10kva stab with two ACs, water heater, TV, lights, ironing blissfully unaware that PHCN is feeding in 100v to 120v at power source - small wonder then that the poor servo stab or even the PHCN meter breaks under the burden of too high amps and too low input voltage.

earthrealm:

i got an A&E 10kva wall mount servo stablizer in 2015, after my 10kva servo prag failed after 1yr, and prag was unable to fix it. the A&E is still serving me ok to date., go for 12kva or 15kva if your voltage gets very low..<120v in your place, as the stabilizer load bearing capability reduces with lower voltage, a 10kva stab becomes a 3kva @100v input

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Prag and A&E Dunamis are probably the most popular servo stab products here in Nigeria with visible service center presence.

I got a Prag 10Kva in 2014 and it is still alive and kicking, other folks were not so lucky with their own Prags. I typically recommend the A&E Dunamis servo stabs to clients because of the wider input voltage band - always find it funny that I hear strange noises coming out of the A&E whereas the Prag is more silent when fed thesame input voltage.

A&E appears more failure prone to me but their customer service is superb - probably the best I have ever experienced in Nigeria.

Like Oga Earthrealm rightly said, one must derate the servo stab loading as the input voltage drops else, things could go 'kaput'. This is the key cause of servo stab failure - customer is indoors loading a 10kva stab with two ACs, water heater, TV, lights, ironing blissfully unaware that PHCN is feeding in 100v to 120v at power source - small wonder then that the poor servo stab or even the PHCN meter breaks under the burden of too high amps and too low input voltage.

Thank you please where can I buy A & E Servo Stab

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Let me try and defuse the tension a bit

Every time I read from this MrsDaniel account, I smile because I can't help but feel it is KieKie himself writing... a pseudonym/pseudoaccount as it were or at the very least the hand behind the hand. The grammar and choice of words and pattern of expression are pretty similar, nearly verbatim IMAO...

That said, everyone can only improve - since clear feedback has been given let us leave this matter alone and discuss some fun topics e.g what are the best value Lithium batteries as of now and what is the future of energy storage. I know a lot of enthusiasts have bought and used or researched various Lithium based flavors.

LOL so u also noticed.
I didn't want to spoil the fun.
I noticed that 'she' does the same aggressive marketing on the family section like kiekie1.

All 'her' posts are on the family section.
The few times she shows up on this section is when kiekie1 is in trouble

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Let me try and defuse the tension a bit

Every time I read from this MrsDaniel account, I smile because I can't help but feel it is KieKie himself writing... a pseudonym/pseudoaccount as it were or at the very least the hand behind the hand. The grammar and choice of words and pattern of expression are pretty similar, nearly verbatim IMAO...

That said, everyone can only improve - since clear feedback has been given let us leave this matter alone and discuss some fun topics e.g what are the best value Lithium batteries as of now and what is the future of energy storage. I know a lot of enthusiasts have bought and used or researched various Lithium based flavors.

You could not have said it any better! The intelligent readers can see clearly between the lines. I am not here to spoil business for anyone but to give him a reason to act better. He/she even mentioned that I also do not contribute. What you fail to understand is that I may be a newbie to solar and still learning the ropes. You on the other hand happen to be a seller and an assumed expert. Fortunately, other forumites here have aired their grievances about kiekie1 too so thankfully, this is not a one off complaint.

hardywaltz:


I noticed that 'she' does the same aggressive marketing on the family section like kiekie1.

Biko o!

The idea was to laugh over it (the possibility) and move on to other topics please.

Let us die this topic abeg!

mctfopt:

chyk101:


You could not have said it any better! The intelligent readers can see clearly between the lines. I am not here to spoil business for anyone but to give him a reason to act better. He/she even mentioned that I also do not contribute. What you fail to understand is that I may be a newbie to solar and still learning the ropes.

mrsdaniel:


Quite a lengthy funny story .. The Kiekie1 we all know and for few who have met with him isn't all as entailed here although can always be busy which isn't abnormal . Blocking might be triggered by personal reasons but I believe he will intelligently reply the house as usual as a popular man . After airing your personal grievance, he lost a deal with you but not with others . Going far saying "NEVER recommend" looks absolutely ridiculous as a tree dosnt make a forest! So many here read and know the industrious , straightforward, trusted marketer ! In the open market system, I bet you can't be friend to all as he deals with different kind of people daily ! Am sure most will only read , smile and likers always like at any comic relief post which I tag this ! The said marketer is one I have met with in person , if most know him, he only started posting WhatsApp NUMBER recently as he always believes in calls and fast transaction which is not an issue so far as he delivers ! You posted he doesn't contribute but you seriously lied because I myself have never seen you contribute reasonably before coming here to childishly post on a stale lost deal . He contributes , doesn't really spam as most do read/follow his updated posts incase you don't know , transact with him consciously or subconsciously before you even posted about him ! Alaba gates is widely open for you to save few rants incase you don't know .. Let sleeping dogs rest as this lil issue has been treated in past and he still remains RESPECTED by the fathers of the house and noble silent readers of this forum ! We await your diplomatic reply soon Sir Frankie

CC: GeorgeD , Pranil , Chuckdee , Barezzi , Saipro , Abunafiu , Dam5reey , Hisenjos and all other Old founding Ogas in the house

Niyi I just have to comment because Frankie supplied at least 80% of my solar setup., even when i had issues with his pricing in the past but my last transaction was a nasty one when he ended up supplying me a different battery from what we agreed on Whatsapp without informing me only for him to try and insult my intelligence that what he sent was a better product

Frankie I have told you this before only integrity will make you go far when you start using underhand dealings small by small you will be the greatest loser.

You are now claiming to be a the number 1 online solar dealer well let me tell you pride goes before a big fall if you continue with what you did to me we shall hear of your fall.

Go to the the car section there was one Inspired arrogant fool that was claiming to be the the number 1 online car dealer go and read up how he ended up

A word is enough for the wise if you like take my advise or not I am not a dealer nor a a competitor but change your price gouging, underhand dealings and so not assume you know note than your customer with want he wants

earthrealm:

i guess you meant btw a servo stabilizer and the common [relay] stabilizer.

Both use relays but the numerous relays of the non-servo type is it's weakness. Servos usually limit their relays to one or two. Then the servo.

On a positive side, the relay type tends to fare better at lower voltages but suffers worse failures if all you do is run it at low voltages (the original intention for buying it). Relay types are easier and cheaper to repair, so long as the core isn't damaged. Usually a matter of fuses and relays. Servos work faster. They're less prone to spitting out absurd voltages (like 290VAC).

Cascading doesn't really help with that either (a pre-staged transformer could help though not advisable as the input power could jump someday).

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Let me try and defuse the tension a bit

Every time I read from this MrsDaniel account, I smile because I can't help but feel it is KieKie himself writing... a pseudonym/pseudoaccount as it were or at the very least the hand behind the hand. The grammar and choice of words and pattern of expression are pretty similar, nearly verbatim IMAO...

Possibly his wife's account?
No harm in defending one's stance. I await his rejoinder. Until then, let's continue on-topic.

dapsyra:

The quoted price of US$999 is too high for that capacity and chemistry. If you are a DIY person, I suggest you CALB LifePo4 batteries instead.

For the capacity of 1200WH (24V 50AH) you require 8units of CALB 3.2v 50AH batteries. You can easily get a 50AH CALB LiFePo4 battery at US$60 each or less. The CALB batteries are also rated at 3000-5000 cycles at 80% DOD.

Good man!

DUNKA:
Niyi I just have to comment because Frankie supplied at least 80% of my solar setup., even when i had issues with his pricing in the past but my last transaction was a nasty one when he ended up supplying me a different battery from what we agreed on Whatsapp without informing me only for him to try and insult my intelligence that what he sent was a better product

Frankie I have told you this before only integrity will make you go far when you start using underhand dealings small by small you will be the greatest loser.

You are now claiming to be a the number 1 online solar dealer well let me tell you pride goes before a big fall if you continue with what you did to me we shall hear of your fall.

Go to the the car section there was one Inspired arrogant fool that was claiming to be the the number 1 online car dealer go and read up how he ended up

A word is enough for the wise if you like take my advise or not I am not a dealer nor a a competitor but change your price gouging, underhand dealings and so not assume you know note than your customer with want he wants

I feel your pain but let's move past this point, especially if it won't help with the purpose of the thread.
Everyone who contacts a marketer on this thread has the option of doing due diligence before parting with cash. Never has it been said I was forced to pay by kiekie1. That's the beauty of personal choice and opinion.
He and I are on quite cordial terms. We've had our rough times too. When I'm not satisfied, I don't hesitate to say so. Again, he knows I don't always buy stuff from him. He couldn't possibly stock every device out there.

I can only get cross with him when I think he's gone bad on a deal. And I do everything to resolve things before even considering involving a third party.

That's the world of business.

Finally, a chosen date for adverts would be a swell idea (the post someone made about it seems to have disappeared). A Friday, as suggested, great. Other days could be chosen. Once agreed, we stick to them. Organised threads at times have rules and by-laws, supplementary to those of the forum.

The super-moderators can help enforce them.

earthrealm:

i got an A&E 10kva wall mount servo stablizer in 2015, after my 10kva servo prag failed after 1yr, and prag was unable to fix it. the A&E is still serving me ok to date., go for 12kva or 15kva if your voltage gets very low..<120v in your place, as the stabilizer load bearing capability reduces with lower voltage, a 10kva stab becomes a 3kva @100v input

What's the price range for A&E? How about Voltron Servo, any experience with that?:https://www.datacommexpress.com/khxc/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=Voltron-VT11-12000-L

nonoski:


Thanks




Please where can one buy this product...



Thank you

Check https://jiji. ng/search?query=stavol%2Bservo or any market near you.

mrsdaniel:


Very apt & matured opinion ! He is only but a human who is certain to win some & loose some , ever active here even when forum is as dull as a deserted house sometimes . He is a rare gem , no fraud nor blacklist ! Am sure same Kiekie1 is busy supplying as usual , we only end up making him very popular by Gods grace

Are your MrsKiekie1?
Can you just please shut up for once?
I know Kiekie1 too in real life, transacted with him,
fought him too but I will not comment for nor against hi m
Unless it is life-threatening
And he is old enough to answer or type for himself.

I'm in need of a 1kva or 1.2kva inverter.
Any one for sale?
Kindly reach me on 08165471453

Pls guys i need assistance with information.

So i am a stickler for PSW inverters but I'm on a verrrry tight budget.

I want to know if using repurposed pure sine wave ups like apc brands is worth it (taking idle watt load into consideration most especially) or which cheap PSW with passable track record will be suggested_chinese brands inclusive. I just fear what msw inverters can do to transformer windings in appliances and also fan coils.

Or are my fears unfounded?

Is mercury a good MSW to use?

Someone who was supposed to send me his own home built PSW system with very mouth watering specs has kept dissapointing me repeatedly. I'm tired of waiting. He doesnt get that punctuality is really the sole of business. So sad.

So I'm all ears pls. Thanks my Ogas dem.

@energy storage

Does Anyone follow thos DIYers who do power walls? Ie li-ion storage systems using 18650s.

I really like it, but sourcing those batteries, esp used ones is sort of difficult. I wish we masticate this topic here going forward.