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Re: . by hammerFC: 4:40pm On Nov 04, 2018
pazienza:



Anambra and all other Igbo States are a creation of Nigeria. Nothing special about states in Nigeria.
They only serve as conduits for national cake sharing. Ranging from representations in NASS to allocations, appointments and other forms of national cakes, nothing more and nothing less.
An Awka man will never be more of brother to an Owelle Ezukala man, than an Isuochi Man who he speaks same dialect, eat same food, have same masquerade and have been neighbors with since the dawn of time.

I have been to Orumba parts of Anambra, and I know for sure that majority of their commoners don't have issue with Etiti state creation to reunite them with other Isu groups in Abia North, Imo North and Parts of Enugu.
They( Orumba/Ihiala) people are the ones to decide if they want to reunite with those their neighbors, and not you or any of us from outside those areas.

Anambra will not be the center of Igboland, even if you add Anioma to SE. Go and take a look at the map of Igboland again.

You claim to be Biafran, yet you are buying the idea of states as created by Nigerian state as a meter of measurement of Igbo groups unity. You don't seem to understand the various groups and clans in Igboland, prior to Gowon state creations in 1967.



This is a very good write up as always, very knowledgeable.

However, I as a strategist, will always strategize.

I will always tilt in the direction that will favour my people, be it Biafra or Nigeria.

I will also prioritize my interest and as such, I arrived at the conclusion that in Nigeria, Adada is a necessary evil to get our Igbo people out of the middle-belt.

That way, we can know wen fulani harm, them.

With regards to the Igbo clan map, it is not a priority.

Wen we get all our people into the SE, naturally, these things will sort themselves out.

There is no rush, becos we are one people.
Re: . by Nobody: 4:41pm On Nov 04, 2018
pazienza:


You are mistaken.
Ihiala speaks pure Isu dialect of Igbo, found in Northern parts of Imo state.

Nnewi speak a unique form of language, corrupted by loan words from the Isu groups found in Nnewi South.
Land is Ana in Nnewi, but it's "Ala" in Ihiala.


You can deceive the illiterates not the elites.

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Re: . by basilo101: 4:41pm On Nov 04, 2018
Osagyefo98:





Is obvious u having a sleepless night on anambra issue.
Lol. Are you running from the debate?
Re: . by OMANBALA1: 4:41pm On Nov 04, 2018
hammerFC:



The part that is most interesting and that I have come across frequently is the Ihiala argument.

I have met people from Ihiala and their dialect is Anambra not Imo.

Perhaps Orlu and Oguta people have Anambra dialect as opposed to Owerri.

Of course , Anambra has variants of dialects. From Aguleri traveling down it changes but the people remain the same. Oliver de coque is from Aguatta, now tell me how Aguatta speaks like Imo....lol

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Re: . by OMANBALA1: 4:43pm On Nov 04, 2018
pazienza:


You are mistaken.
Ihiala speaks pure Isu dialect of Igbo, found in Northern parts of Imo state.

Nnewi speak a unique form of language, corrupted by loan words from the Isu groups found in Nnewi South.
Land is Ana in Nnewi, but it's "Ala" in Ihiala.

Isu spread across the two state. Okpunor Isu adiro na Imo. Lets not miseducate People here.

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Re: . by Nobody: 4:43pm On Nov 04, 2018
basilo101:

Lol. Are you running from the debate?



Why should I be involve in a divisive debate?

Go and debate about your nsukka and leave anambra alone.

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Re: . by Nobody: 4:44pm On Nov 04, 2018
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Re: . by basilo101: 4:45pm On Nov 04, 2018
OMANBALA1:


Of course , Anambra has variants of dialects. From Aguleri traveling down it changes but the people remain the same. Oliver de coque is from Aguatta, now tell me how Aguatta speaks like Imo....lol
Anambra is not same people neither do they speak ssme dialect. Nnewi is the largest subgoup and they only have one LGA, nnewi north
Re: . by Nobody: 4:47pm On Nov 04, 2018
IzuAgu:
Anambra is a monolithic state. [b]Anambra will rather marry Anambra than any other Igbo group. [/b]Our foods are unique---onugbu, nsala, ora, etc. We are a people with very tall ambition. These are some of things that makes us monolithic.


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Re: . by basilo101: 4:47pm On Nov 04, 2018
Osagyefo98:




Why should I be involve in a divisive debate?

Go and debate about your nsukka and leave anambra alone.
This is a pan igbo forum. There is nothing divisive in the debate. Your monolithic claim is false and mischievous. Only nnewi north LGA is monolithic in Anambra state
Re: . by pazienza(m): 4:48pm On Nov 04, 2018
hammerFC:




This is a very good write up as always, very knowledgeable.

However, I as a strategist, will always strategize.

I will always tilt in the direction that will favour my people, be it Biafra or Nigeria.

I will also prioritize my interest and as such, I arrived at the conclusion that in Nigeria Adada is a necessary evil to get our Igbo people out of the middle-belt.

That way, we can know wen fulani harm, them.

With regards to the Igbo clan map, it is not a priority.

Wen we get all our people into the SE, naturally, these things will sort themselves out.

There is no rush, becos we are one people.


I don't want our people getting attached to Nigerian states and LGAs.
We should see them as nothing but a means to extract more from the national cake. Which is exactly what they are.
Claiming that an Umuchukwu man is now more of a brother to the man from Idemili, than he is to the Eziama man in Abia state, he shares same language, boundary, food, masquerades, streams, etc with, because of silly Nigerian states creations, is no different from the Anioma man, who now thinks he's more related to the Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri, Edo, etc, just because the British man called Bernard Bourdillion separated Anioma from the rest of Igboland in 1939.

Those who propagate the absurdity of Nigerian states as their new identities, while ignoring precolonial existing clans and kinships, are no different from Ikwerre, Ika, Ukwuani, Ogba, etc. Who are today assuming New identities given to them by Nigeria, while throwing away kinship shared with groups in SE.

Let's think twice about this.

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Re: . by hammerFC: 4:49pm On Nov 04, 2018
basilo101:

This is a pan igbo forum. There is nothing divisive in the debate. Your monolithic claim is false and mischievous. Only nnewi north LGA is monolithic in Anambra state

So only Nnewi is Anambra, wat kind of thing is that? grin

Nnewi and Ihiala have very close relationship and alot of marriages, u know.

Ihiala is going nowhere.

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Re: . by basilo101: 4:52pm On Nov 04, 2018
hammerFC:


So only Nnewi is Anambra, wat kind of thing is that? grin

Nnewi and Ihiala have very close relationship and alot of marriages, u know.

Ihiala is going nowhere.
Lol. Which kind dumb question be this. Read well and comprehend
Re: . by pazienza(m): 4:52pm On Nov 04, 2018
OMANBALA1:


Isu spread across the two state. Okpunor Isu adiro na Imo. Lets not miseducate People here.

Nwanne, what are you talking about here. I don't understand this your post.

Isu is spread across Imo North , Abia North Anambra South and Parts of Enugu.

Their language is the language we associate with Imo state today.
Many people don't even know that Imo state don't have a single language too. They are not monolithic as well.

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Re: . by basilo101: 4:55pm On Nov 04, 2018
pazienza:


I don't want our people getting attached to Nigerian states and LGAs.
We should see them as nothing but a means to extract more from the national cake. Which is exactly what they are.
Claiming that an Umuchukwu man is now more of a brother to the man from Idemili, than he is to the Eziama man in Abia state, he shares same language, boundary, food, masquerades, streams, etc with, because of silly Nigerian states creations, is no different from the Anioma man, who now thinks he's more related to the Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri, Edo, etc, just because the British man called Bernard Bourdillion separated Anioma from the rest of Igboland in 1939.

Those who propagate the absurdity of Nigerian states as their new identities, while ignoring precolonial existing clans and kinships, are no different from Ikwerre, Ika, Ukwuani, Ogba, etc. Who are today assuming New identities given to them by Nigeria, while throwing away kinship shared with groups in SE.

Let's think twice about this.
Oga thank you so much sir. There are no large groups in anambra. Only independent towns. In enugu, the whole state is made up of only five groups
Re: . by hammerFC: 4:57pm On Nov 04, 2018
Anybody that look closely can see that from all angle, they are looking for small pieces of Anambra to collect.

Well, count us out of any state creation in the SE.


No part of Anambra want to be added anywhere.


Leave us as we are.

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Re: . by basilo101: 4:58pm On Nov 04, 2018
pazienza:


Nwanne, what are you talking about here. I don't understand this your post.

Isu is spread across Imo North , Abia North Anambra South and Parts of Enugu.

Their language is the language we associate with Imo state today.
Many people don't even know that Imo state don't have a single language too. They are not monolithic as well.
There is actually no monolithic state that's why the fraudulent claim by anambra must not be allowed to fester. Anambra has no large groups like other states
Re: . by basilo101: 5:00pm On Nov 04, 2018
IzuAgu:
ANAMBRA IS A MONOLITHIC STATE. We don't care what you people are in Enugu state.


[s][/s]

Meanwhile listen to an Nsukka man speaking Anambra dialect cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyU9-2V0sgA
He spoke "pidgin igbo" there is nothing like anambra dialect
Re: . by BrownRoofRep: 5:01pm On Nov 04, 2018
basilo101:

I didn't start the ebere/ebele ish
Who cares?
I just corrected your ignorance.

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Re: . by hammerFC: 5:01pm On Nov 04, 2018
IzuAgu:
ANAMBRA IS A MONOLITHIC STATE. Large groups doesn't mean MONOLITH. Get educated


[s][/s]


Anambra is the only state where everybody have the same accent. (dialect)

If that is not monolithic, i dont know wat monolithic is.

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Re: . by Nobody: 5:04pm On Nov 04, 2018
basilo101:

This is a pan igbo forum. There is nothing divisive in the debate. Your monolithic claim is false and mischievous. Only nnewi north LGA is monolithic in Anambra state


Pan-igbo forum but to u is pan-anambra.

I cannot even remember the last time, I just wake up and start digging other igbo sister states.

Anambra as a whole is monolithic. Just leave it for us that way. Coz is not in ur power to decide for us.....biko.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 5:06pm On Nov 04, 2018
IzuAgu:
How come an Nsukka man is speaking Anambra dialect?

cheesy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyU9-2V0sgA




Lol! There is nothing like Anambra dialect. I was in Amesi n Aguata for an event yesterday.
The language sounded funny. I swear, I thought I was in Imo state. angry
If a man from that part of Aguata comes to Ilo ngwodo, Nkwo ezi udo, Afor Igwe or Ogbe otu and start speaking that their language, my people will call him "Onye Imo".

They were speaking conc Isu language there as indigenous language.
I wanted to interview the people more about their origin, but I ran out of time.

Yes! Idemili/Njikoka/Anaocha/Dunukofia/Oyi dialect cluster is the quintessential language people ignorantly call "Anambra language".
It's the lightest form of Igbo language, it's not nasalized at all, and it avoids harsh diphthongs like "sh" sounds like mad.
It's exotic and sweet to the ear. It loves simplicity and strives to keep things simple.

For example. Nwabunwanne becomes "Nwaa'nne", notice how "bu" was removed. Chibuzo becomes "Chi'uzo", m mafu ama gi ula becomes " m mafu ama 'I ula". Notice the omission of letter "g".

Every unbiased Igbo knows deep inside that this dialectical cluster found in Anambra is the sweetest, lightest and easiest to understand of all Igbo dialects.

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