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Re: . by Nobody: 8:00pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Yyeske: If you are proud Igbos why placing the Omanbala consciousness and identity above of Igbo consciousness |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:01pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Funnicator: I'm surprised they dont see the similarity between their Omambala agenda share with those of Igboids in Rivers state and Delta. It's shocking. A kind of cognitive dissonance I must say. All those who promote that Omambala consciousness must know that they have lost the moral ground to castigate those who promote Anioma, Ikwerre, etc agenda. Those are artificial agendas and are all fallouts of Gowon and British divisions. 5 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 8:05pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza: Thank you. Imagine a Biafra that lacks patriotism. Where every clan or state is patriotic to herself only and not to the Biafran coat of arms. Americans can die for their country, patriotic to the core. But here we have Omambala man threatening and swearing not to be pulled out of his artificial home because of some Omambala consciousness whereas you are a Biafran at heart and every other thing is secondary. Patriotism may be dead before the new country is birthed. Talk of a still born LOL ![]() 1 Like |
Re: . by Yyeske(m): 8:06pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Funnicator:Everyone to his belief, you don't ascribe someone else's stance to an entire group. We don't believe in any superiority complex thing and you know this has been discussed here several times but you guys go on bringing it up. We are all Igbos in consciousness and mind , be you from any part of Nigeria where we have indigenous Igbos, we are one and same and nobody is superior to any. 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:07pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
You are saying that no part of Anambra should be added to any part of Igboland to create a new state, because you have grown an emotionally artificial Omambala consciousness. In the same vein, the Anioma man is saying that he doesn't want to be joined to Ndiigbo and SE, because he has acquired an artificial Anioma consciousness and now part of Niger Delta that is indivisible. Just as you accuse other Igbos trying to create states by uniting with parts of Anambra, of being land grabbers, so do Anioma and Igboids in Rivers accuse you of land grabbing for trying to reach out and make them part of your region by taking them out of SS. You say it's not the same. But I'm telling you it's exactly the same. And this line of thought, can only be destructive to overall Igbo unity. 8 Likes |
Re: . by Yyeske(m): 8:08pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Funnicator:It has been cultivated over some time and neither you nor I can stop it. Omambala first, proudly Igbo. 1 Like |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:08pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza: The avoidance of Igbo made them not to know Ifunanya was a bomb and the hit track for one of the albums. Who would believe they would wear isiagu in their lives till that 'nobody ugly ' song. Even Black face from Benue was able to sing 'Erinma '. Timaya could sing 'Ogologo mma agha ', all before 2008 and they aren't even Igbos. In all we do, let's not forget to thank Nigger Raw, Slow Dogg, Dekumzy, Flavour, even Desperate Chicks . They are the ones who did the dirty jobs and risked their business fortunes to introduce Igbo to the world via pop music when Igbo pop music wasn't a thing. Now, Phyno and Zoro have a smooth ground to play around . Not forgetting Illbliss and Wizboy. Today, anyone can actually sing in Igbo and it will oversell if well marketed . In fada fada, Olamide sang some lines in Igbo too. It was never like that. The one that shot himself in the foot is Humblesmith who allowed his good song to be trashed by Davido with his childish antics and lyrics. The song became irrelevant after the Momodu saga ended. I warned against that. But if you ask me to give that lifetime achievement award of Igbo contemporary music , I will be confused. Flavour is unopposed for the singing part. He has stopped being vulgar too. Wonderful combination. For rap, it will be a tie between Mr Raw and Phyno. Raw introduced it and made us know it's possible, but Phyno is so smooth in flow that it became popular. I also don't like that Phyno doesn't rap as such again. Or maybe I am not current . Zoro has richer rap lyrics than Phyno these days... Igbo music has come a long way. We will take over like we always do, some day 1 Like |
Re: . by Yyeske(m): 8:11pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Why comparing the Omambala consciousness to those who are still fighting with self identity, have you seen an Anambra man questioning his Igboness? 1 Like |
Re: . by bigfrancis21: 8:17pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:This example indicates that people, by and large, identify primarily with their state or boundaries in which they find themselves in and that if Egbema Rivers and Etche were to be readjusted into Imo state and Obigbo into Abia state, within 30 years, give or take, these people would be proudly Igbo like other Igbos. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:22pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: You are not current then. Phyno is the lynchpin of Igbo rap. And he now sings too. He's so far from the rest of the chasing pack led by Zoro. You should go listen to the song "fuwa sewa", and "Iwa". Phyno is just too slick and smooth. There is no stopping that man. And he raps and sing in all Igbo dialects. He carries every part of Igboland along in his music. In his "man of the year song " , he had this line : "Ajo nwa, na-asu Engligbo, when they ask me , I say I'm doing it for my people, ha fu m, ha si m, Phyno why iji a rapu n'Igbo, m si ya nwelu nwayo, i mana Jesus na-asu Igbo". Phyno really did it for Ndiigbo, he made us proud of our language. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:28pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Yyeske: Nah from clap dem dey enter dance. Why must there be Anambra consciousness. What happened to just IGBO consciousness? 7 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza: Obi1kenobi do you like Oha soup? I think soup is ready for ingestion. ![]() |
Re: . by Nobody: 8:38pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
Yyeske: The clapping has begun, we'll all wait for the footworks to compliment it before it degenerates into a full blown dance. |
Re: . by Nobody: 8:41pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: Boss I hail Oh! Your revered presence is highly aknowledged, if by no one else, at least by me. Ndewo 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:44pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza: Ok |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:46pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: I don't know what happened to TJ. He was younger than Mr Raw, and I expected him to take over when Mr Raw stopped, but he's career just died like that. The thing pain me no be small. 2 Likes |
Re: . by basilo101: 8:48pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Pazienza. I marvel at the intelligence oozing out from your comment as against empty chest beating by other anambras. This new madness of anambra monolithic identity must be nipped in the bud. The Nri issue which some are using to promote anambra supremacy is even ridiculously because Nri has ties with towns outside anambra than its neighboring towns in anambra state. Nsukka is an offshoot of Nri with further connections with Idah 1 Like |
Re: . by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Phyno is still the king of Igbo rap no two ways about it. Zoro still has a long way to go. But it still surprises me that you guys didn't even mention pacesetters like Wene Mighty. Despite singing most times in Ikwerre, Duncan Mighty has also helped push the Igbo language to national relevance in the music industry. His collaboration with Nigga raw in his first album as well as hit songs like 'Ako n Uche', Obianuju, Ijeoma, Ahamefule and so on helped revived Igbo lyrics nationwide. Even till now, Duncan still promotes Igbo language and culture, and should come fourth after Raw, Phyno and Flavor in the all time legends of Igbo Hip Hop. 2 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:54pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: Why does this only happen to Igbo groups. Why are we this too clannish. Yorubas in Kogi don't behave that way. And Yorubas in SW don't hold tenaciously to their state tags like Ndiigbo do. The Hausas in NW are same Hausas in NE and NC, No distinction. It looks like we are always in constant look out for things to hold unto to emphasize distinction from our fellow Igbos. We are too easy to uphold artificial identities. Look at how Tinubu( from Osun), Ambode (from Ondo) are ruling Lagos, and Aworis are not crying , swearing and threatening the rest of Yorubas. But just Nzimiro mayorship of Ph, was too much for Ikwerres to endure. I'm beginning to think that Igbo unity project is a waste of time. Maybe it's about time I gave up and spent my time on other useful ventures. 6 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:00pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
UdechiHD: Yes! Duncan mighty tried, but you know Ndi Ikwerre and their issues. I don't want to invite them and their insecurities here. That's why I left out Wene mighty Okechukwu. Wene mighty use central Igbo mixed with his Ikwerre dialect in his songs, but Ikwerre wahala is too much, not worth the headache when we have enough A list Igbo musicians to talk about. I love Duncan mighty "Jesus bu Eze" song, it has IGBO feel all about it. Even the fake love song he sang recently. That "Nwanyioma, take it cool oma "or something like that is Igbo too. 3 Likes |
Re: . by OMANBALA1: 9:02pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
igbobabe02: Dont be ignorant, Igbo was never one entity before the whites arrived. It was just recently that Anambra started marrying from Imo, before it can never happen. |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 9:05pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: So very true sir, I was explaining here on this thread that state creation is part of divide and rule but he was quick to attack me. |
Re: . by OMANBALA1: 9:07pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza: Again , you should know better,we have a different social organization from the yoruba, and I hope it remains so. I dont want to be an Imo governor neither do I want an Imollite to govern Anambra. And yes , Igbo unity project is a danm waste of time. The smartest thing is to to return home and join hands to build Anambra and from there we can dispatch. 1 Like |
Re: . by basilo101: 9:13pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Aguata is another "Imoid" LGA in anambra just like ihiala. The term "anambra dialect" is another fraudulent claim. That lightest igbo version found in that language cluster in anambra is not spoken all over the state. The five LGAs you mentioned has no unifying name due to lack of large gruopings in the state otherwise it would have been difficult to fraudulently call it anambra dialect. It was adopted as " pidgin igbo" for informal purposes because of it's simplicity. While the heavy igbo version from imo/abia axis standardized into igbo izugbe for official use 1 Like |
Re: . by Yyeske(m): 9:13pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
basilo101:Another one. |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:14pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
OMANBALA1: Lol! So in precolonial era, the Amansea man will leave his Ugwuoba neighbors and head to Onitsha to marry a wife? The Orumba man will leave his Umunneochi and Oji river neighbors and head to Enugu Ukwu to marry a wife. Nnaa eh, Nawa for you o! 3 Likes |
Re: . by basilo101: 9:20pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
OMANBALA1:If igbo is a recent identity how much more anambra or any other state for that matter? |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:20pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
OMANBALA1: So you plan to create an Omambala ethnic group and reduce us to inconsequential minority, like those Igboids? You want to ruin the great works of our heroes past like Zik, Okpara, Nzimiro, Akanu Ibiam, etc did in uniting our people. It will not work for you. Igwebuike is an ancient wisdom of our forefathers. Also Izu ka nma na Nne ji is another one. We bear names like IGBOerika, Igboesika, Igbokwe, Igboachu, etc. What you suggest is not wisdom. 7 Likes |
Re: . by basilo101: 9:21pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Na real waa for that dude |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 9:22pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
![]() Sir pazienza, God bless you. You just made my day, how can a wise Igbo hold on to artificial state creation. Those states or whatever are the reason IGBO UNITY seems almost impossible, you see Igbos bragging how 'Anambra people are ritualist' 'Enugu people are wawans' 'Ebonyi people are not Igbos' bla bla bla. Stereotyping themselves all in the name of states, what nonsense! Even most Igbo elders buy this nonsense, my boss and relative think Anambra people (Ndi Abelu) are far more rich, responsible etc. According to him, "someone from Enugu has better chances and opportunity (jobs, food etc) than one from Anambra." States are artificial including the ethnic group Igbo. 3 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 9:24pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
basilo101: Imo is also not a monolithic group. Their language is not same as well. Aguata is not Imoid because it has her Isu relatives in Imo, anymore than Ideato is Anambraoid, because there are people who speak like Aguata people in that part of Imo. You seem to be buying this Imo/Anambra agenda like those promoting monolithic Anambra. 2 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 9:25pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
pazienza:Welldone Pazienza! I've noticed b that most of the folks carrying this Omanbala identity on their head are from the Eri/Nri belt of Anambra. They've gone ahead to incorporate the Awka/Agulu and Idemilli groups into this charade. But the good thing is that the Nnewi/Ekwusigo/Ihiala on one hand and the Orumba/Aguata on another hand do not share such myopia, because they are more connected in dialect, geography and heritage with northern Imo. The Onitsha group too seems ready to reunite with the Anioma's and do not connect with Omanbala. But yet, these folks keep pushing this supremacy nonsense of an Omanbala and as well try to change Igbo origin to Nri, trying to push for an end to Igbo Izugbe, and also cunningly trying to make every path of Igboland inferior to Eri/Nri and it's Omanbala myths. But that agenda is already Dead On Arrival! Igbo unity will outlive all the divisive agents in our midst. 5 Likes |
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