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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:45pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


The same internet has pictures of starving Kenyan masses to show, can you show me pictures of starving Nigerian masses? I dare you!

Western media with western based statistics claim half of Nigeria lives in extreme poverty because their industrialized society and minds cannot comprehend how people can eat well and stay healthy without spending a dime in a whole day. Well, we have been living that way for centuries here.

R you OK now

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:45pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:
@ TayserMahiri, Kur17, mtisTheQubit, Yobeezy, gallivant, Jonraid, GERALD710, Kikuyu1 and every other bragging Kenyan that will ever come to this thread.

You guys truly need to do something about the extreme uneven reality of that shithole you call Kenya. You guys can go ahead deceiving white foreigners and other observers who visit the CBD of Nairobi and other scripted areas in order to make them have good views of you, but you just really cannot deceive other Africans to take you guys any seriously.

Your country is a country that has the practice of robbing Peter to pay Paul. A country with the principle of taking advantage of the weak to fatten the strong.

For God's sake, how can a section of your country be living in stone age while another section brag of development or amenities of western standards? Imagine such level of double standards.

Nigeria for instance is a country where everyone is equally carried together in development, irrespective of tribe, religion or creed. This is because since ever, we have had state governments to cater for every region even when the federal (central) govt may neglect you.

How can a country have millions of citizens who starve year in year out, but yet chooses to use most of it's arable land for farming tea and flowers? Isn't that insanity? What ever could explain that?

This is the same thing that plays out in your cities. The negative effect of your fakeness, where just beside all the sky scrappers of your Nairobi, you have the largest slums in Africa sitted there and in these slums you have majority of the city's residents.
The few lucky poor and low middleclass citizens who manage to escape these slums are crowded up in multiple story concentration camp houses without ventilation, just so that the few rich people can live in extremely luxurious and spacious estates?

You guys end up showing us the expensive grand buildings and structures being built in Nairobi but at the end of the day, only a tiny percentage of the populace have access to these. It's such a shame!

I respect a country like Tanzania with a lower GDP (nominal) where there is better even development across the country and a more affordable standard of living for the populace than your country where a huge section of the populace live in stone age and will need to travel hundreds of miles to ever see what a city or modern urban area looks like.
Kenya, Your fakeness stinks! Go fix it!

Kenya as a country would never have been able to compare Nigeria at any developmemt index had we not been besetted by a civil war and decades of military rule just after our independence.

Some Nigerian cities were burnt to the ground during the civil war, but go to those places and you see bubbling and beautiful urban areas today, whereas you will have to travel hundreds of miles around some parts of Kenya to see any sign of urbanization. You can imagine the country comparing itself with Nigeria.
Kenya has never experienced a serious national challenge like war or decades of military rule, yet you wonder why Kenya is still dragging development with other African countries whose progress was stalled for decades by war and military rule.

Kenya would never be able to compare Nigeria in any human development statistics had it not been for the Core-northern muslims we have in Nigeria who form 35% of our population. They are like our major problem here.
These people have a clear anti-western and even anti-development culture, yet other parts of Nigeria have been managing to drag them forward by force. This is what true fairness in a nation is all about, unlike your country Kenya where some sections are left to rot in perpetual darkness while others make progress.

Calm down. Nigeria is still the poverty capital of the world.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:47pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


The same internet has pictures of starving Kenyan masses to show, can you show me pictures of starving Nigerian masses? I dare you!

Western media with western based statistics claim half of Nigeria lives in extreme poverty because their industrialized society and minds cannot comprehend how people can eat well and stay healthy without spending a dime in a whole day. Well, we have been living that way for centuries here.

R you OK now...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:47pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kur17:


When you were facing military we also had our challenges under Moi's era... You talk of northern Muslims we'll talk Somalis and other tribes from Ethiopia who are just as backward as your Bokoharam sympathisers...

Kenya started closing the gap just the other day wayy after the military rule...

Speaking of inequality, Nigeria, SA and Kenya have the same problem, in fact going by your GDP per capita with almost 50or40+% of your population living below poverty line you're worse off in inequality

You want to compare a civil war that took 3 million lives and burnt cities/financial centres to the ground? Do you know the cost of such wars?
Or you want to compare over 30 years of military dictatorship to Moi's regime?

Yes you have Somalis I know, but what percentage of your population are they? (35%)?

Nigeria's inequality is not worse because the statistics used for judging extreme poverty does not apply to rural Nigerians. That of urban Nigerians is very understandable and acceptable, cos it is impossible to live in a city without spending cash, but it is very possible in rural Nigeria.
Imagine calling people who farm and sell bags and bags of foodstuffs extremely poor. They may not have cash on their hands but they have acres of fertile lands at their disposal.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:55pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kur17:


R you OK now

Hahahaha, Oga those starving children in the first picture are children from the Nigerian civil war. I can show you more of those pictures if you want.

One blogger must have taken those pictures to add to the story of starving Nigerians. God forbid for such a scenario to happen in Nigeria.
You have a head my guy, think! How can Nigerians starve without political instability when 100% of the country's land is arable and fertile and is owned by private individuals and communities who are agrarian?

You have a brain and I want to believe that it works.

Niger republic is 90% desert and they don't starve.

Starving without war/crisis has never been a West African thing.

The last picture with a starving child being given water by a white woman is self explanatory in your picture. That was a child who is part of a community in Akwa Ibom state in Nigeria with an age long tradition where children accused of witchcraft are abandoned by their family to die! I can show you more of it if you want.

Don't be too desperate to bring Nigeria to Kenya's level. We never starve in West Africa unless when there is war or crisis.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


My brother. It is just a sad situation. Kenyans are the chief sponsors of people who tarnish the image of Africa. We know many west africans tarnish Africa's image by drowning on getting to Europe, but at the end of the day, there are millions of our people that did take this journey and today are milllionaires in Europe, remitting million back home.
Not that I'm encouraging this journey!

Kenya on the other had is a country where the government sacrifices the lives of some of it's citizens for money and to impress the white foreigners in their midst.
Kenya is a highly uneven developed country where a vast part of the country is left underdeveloped and untouched just for the sake of all the country's money to be pumped into building sky scrappers in Nairobi.

I thank God for Nigeria where development seems to be quite evenly spread.

Kenyan masses are nothing but puppets of the Kenyatta family and the Indian elites.

If you want to weep for Africa and curse the reason for you being black, you don't need to look any further than to watch documentaries on certain parts of Kenya. These are the kind of images Kenya sends to the western world to represent we Africans. Are these the kind of people to be taken seriously?


These are really sad images , I hope they are telling the truth when they say this is nolonger the case though. I don't see the need to have chunks of arable land being uses for flower and tea farming which are owned by a handful while the masses are dying of hunger lipsrsealed. I see they keep on talking about northerners , but what is going on in northern Nigeria is totally different from what I'm seeing here . Northerners are not starving to death, they prefer farming and herding which the west call poor and primitive , but these people are not starving , this is their way of life. Are the khoisans in south Africa starving ? No they aren't, they have plenty to eat but resist the western way of life. Comparing victims of boko haram to what I'm seeing here is nonsense . Can we blame drought? . I don't think so , when I was in south Africa there was drought and water shortages everywhere but the people were not starving in this manner . Our neighbours in Niger republic have been hit with drought and famine but things never got to this level undecided. I still insist, Kenyans need to fight for their land if they want real emancipation.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by FrudstaPresidnt: 7:56pm On Nov 06, 2018
gallivant:



Haha

If that makes you sleep better in the night so be it. You are out of touch with reality so I will leave you to it, I have tea and biscuits waiting for me. grin
You have been buried grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 06, 2018
gallivant:


Lead by example, get your land and oil wells back before the delta militia run riot again.

Get them from whom . I thought Kenyans were the ones leading Africa in all things positive . How about you start taking back the arable lands that could help feed your people instead of giving more lands to the same British people to build more skyscrapers and headquarters of their companies .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:
@ TayserMahiri, Kur17, mtisTheQubit, Yobeezy, gallivant, Jonraid, GERALD710, Kikuyu1 and every other bragging Kenyan that will ever come to this thread.

You guys truly need to do something about the extreme uneven reality of that shithole you call Kenya. You guys can go ahead deceiving white foreigners and other observers who visit the CBD of Nairobi and other scripted areas in order to make them have good views of you, but you just really cannot deceive other Africans to take you guys any seriously.

Your country is a country that has the practice of robbing Peter to pay Paul. A country with the principle of taking advantage of the weak to fatten the strong.

For God's sake, how can a section of your country be living in stone age while another section brag of development or amenities of western standards? Imagine such level of double standards.

Nigeria for instance is a country where everyone is equally carried together in development, irrespective of tribe, religion or creed. This is because since ever, we have had state governments to cater for every region even when the federal (central) govt may neglect you.

How can a country have millions of citizens who starve year in year out, but yet chooses to use most of it's arable land for farming tea and flowers? Isn't that insanity? What ever could explain that?

This is the same thing that plays out in your cities. The negative effect of your fakeness, where just beside all the sky scrappers of your Nairobi, you have the largest slums in Africa sitted there and in these slums you have majority of the city's residents.
The few lucky poor and low middleclass citizens who manage to escape these slums are crowded up in multiple story concentration camp houses without ventilation, just so that the few rich people can live in extremely luxurious and spacious estates?

You guys end up showing us the expensive grand buildings and structures being built in Nairobi but at the end of the day, only a tiny percentage of the populace have access to these. It's such a shame!

I respect a country like Tanzania with a lower GDP (nominal) where there is better even development across the country and a more affordable standard of living for the populace than your country where a huge section of the populace live in stone age and will need to travel hundreds of miles to ever see what a city or modern urban area looks like.
Kenya, Your fakeness stinks! Go fix it!

Kenya as a country would never have been able to compare Nigeria at any developmemt index had we not been besetted by a civil war and decades of military rule just after our independence.

Some Nigerian cities were burnt to the ground during the civil war, but go to those places and you see bubbling and beautiful urban areas today, whereas you will have to travel hundreds of miles around some parts of Kenya to see any sign of urbanization. You can imagine the country comparing itself with Nigeria.
Kenya has never experienced a serious national challenge like war or decades of military rule, yet you wonder why Kenya is still dragging development with other African countries whose progress was stalled for decades by war and military rule.

Kenya would never be able to compare Nigeria in any human development statistics had it not been for the Core-northern muslims we have in Nigeria who form 35% of our population. They are like our major problem here.
These people have a clear anti-western and even anti-development culture, yet other parts of Nigeria have been managing to drag them forward by force. This is what true fairness in a nation is all about, unlike your country Kenya where some sections are left to rot in perpetual darkness while others make progress.

This is total rubbish with self acclaimed sentiments,who told you that millions of Kenyans are starving?Moreso the population of Nigerians starving is almost six times that of Kenya's.
Who told you that development in Kenya isn't evenly distributed?Furthermore devolution is contributing a lot because most of the regions in Kenya which were marginalized are now opening up,how many times do you people want us to sing this? do you people usually take hard weeds to comprehend simple issues?

And you can't come here to lie to us that development in Nigeria is even yet most of the northern parts of Nigeria which is Muslim dominated operates like there is no government,you're even the poverty and malnutrition destination of the world.The southern part of Nigeria is mostly Christian dominated and they tend to be at consistent loggerheads with their fellow northerners because of some stupid religion conflicts.

You Nigerians need prayers before you point a black finger on us.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by FrudstaPresidnt: 8:02pm On Nov 06, 2018
gallivant:


Kenya is better than Nigeria mate.
You are a clown! Only one oil and gas asset in Nigeria would buy your one city country with a balance.
Apart from Nairaobi, what your term counties are like villages in Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:11pm On Nov 06, 2018
Yobeezy:


This is total rubbish with self acclaimed sentiments,who told you that millions of Kenyans are starving?Moreso the population of Nigerians starving is almost six times that of Kenya's.
Who told you that development in Kenya isn't evenly distributed?Furthermore devolution is contributing a lot because most of the regions in Kenya which were marginalized are now opening up,how many times do you people want us to sing this? do you people usually take hard weeds to comprehend simple issues?

And you can't come here to lie to us that development in Nigeria is even yet most of the northern parts of Nigeria which is Muslim dominated operates like there is no government,you're even the poverty and malnutrition destination of the world.The southern part of Nigeria is mostly Christian dominated and they tend to be at consistent loggerheads with their fellow northerners because of some stupid religion conflicts.

You Nigerians need prayers before you point a black finger on us.

1) Do you want to argue here that droughts and starvation never hit northern parts of Kenya year in year out?

2) Asides victims of Boko haram insurgency who were forced to flee their homes, can you prove that Nigerians starve?

3) Development is even in Kenya? Can you show us one single city/financial centre in northern Kenya where 10% of your population inhabit?

4) Kano & Kaduna cities are among top 6 most developed and urbanized cities in Nigeria and they are located in the heart of Northern muslim areas. I won't even talk about Abuja (our capital city) which is also situated in the north.

Kindly answer the questions above or you can call your fellow Kenyans to help you out.

Don't argue without anything to back you up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by FrudstaPresidnt: 8:16pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


1) Do you want to argue here that droughts and starvation never hit northern parts of Kenya year in year out?

2) Asides victims of Boko haram insurgency who were forced to flee their homes, can you prove that Nigerians starve?

3) Development is even in Kenya? Can you show us one single city/financial centre in northern Kenya where 10% of your population inhabit?

4) Kano & Kaduna cities are among top 6 most developed and urbanized cities in Nigeria and they are located in the heart of Northern muslim areas. I won't even talk about Abuja (our capital city) which is also situated in the north.

Kindly answer the questions above or you can call your fellow Kenyans to help you out.

Don't argue without anything to back you up.
Educate the illiterates and starving Kibera slum dwellers please.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:18pm On Nov 06, 2018
AmenhotepZuid:
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin cry cry cry
Tallest building in the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE.... cry cry cry

Don't post for us something which even they've not laid a foundation ,the proposal of that structure hasn't even been implemented.
Check out the construction of Nairobi pinnacle towers which will be the tallest tower in Africa by 2020.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:19pm On Nov 06, 2018
Hello Kenyans,Who invented m_pesa?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:20pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


1) Do you want to argue here that droughts and starvation never hit northern parts of Kenya year in year out?

2) Asides victims of Boko haram insurgency who were forced to flee their homes, can you prove that Nigerians starve?

3) Development is even in Kenya? Can you show us one single city/financial centre in northern Kenya where 10% of your population inhabit?

4) Kano & Kaduna cities are among top 6 most developed and urbanized cities in Nigeria and they are located in the heart of Northern muslim areas. I won't even talk about Abuja (our capital city) which is also situated in the north.

Kindly answer the questions above or you can call your fellow Kenyans to help you out.

Don't argue without anything to back you up.

You're still not even getting my points,continue living in extreme denial with an ignorant brain.
You and that Tanzanian fool are just the same.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kazikazi:
Hello Kenyans,Who invented m_pesa?

You were already answered in the previous page of this thread,stop being stupid.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:21pm On Nov 06, 2018
Yobeezy:


Don't post for us something which even they've not laid a foundation ,the proposal of that structure hasn't even been implemented.
Check out the construction of Nairobi pinnacle towers which will be the tallest tower in Africa by 2020.
where is pinnacle? You are busy digging a hole for ages! Hohohohoho..whom are u fooling?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 8:23pm On Nov 06, 2018
ahhhhh....!!!!!...kenyans,my favorate punchin bags.....how una dey...??

kiiiiikikikikiki....whats going on here.....??

let me update myself quick quick....

kazikazi,how you dey,bro....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 8:26pm On Nov 06, 2018
TayserMahiri:
Kenya emerged as the Champions of the Africa Roller Skating Championships in Cairo, Egypt with a total of 40 medals.

20 Gold, 11 Silver and 9 Bronze.

One would imagine the lazy bones from Bongo can win a skating medal. I can see their flag there somewhere. At least they participated.

Roller Skating...??..wtf is Roller Skating....??...you wan go Roller Skating in the savanna....??

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:27pm On Nov 06, 2018
Jonraid:
A bit funny seeing how everyone ones to be part of this thread.What was to be a Nigeria versus Kenya affair gets visits now from every Tom,Dick and Harry!

Those useless Tom and dick are the likes of a certain Tanzanian and south African but they didn't know we accommodate most of them in our country.
These hurted fools just naturally hate us because we're not slowpokes in developing our nation like them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:29pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kazikazi:
where is pinnacle? You are busy digging a hole for ages! Hohohohoho..whom are u fooling?

Check for yourself or do you want me to check for you?Most Tanzanians do even use kabambe phones
Have you ever been to Nairobi?
No of course! And you're busy ranting bitterly.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by FrudstaPresidnt: 8:30pm On Nov 06, 2018
bantudra:
ahhhhh....!!!!!...kenyans,my favorate punchin bags.....how una dey...??

kiiiiikikikikiki....whats going on here.....??

let me update myself quick quick....

kazikazi,how you dey,bro....
China to take over Kenya. Stay relaxed for details....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 8:30pm On Nov 06, 2018
gallivant:
How many medals did Tanzania and Nigeria win? I can take a wild guess a d say 0 medals. grin

i tried Roller Skating...i was very miserable in it.... undecided undecided...

anything that my feet dont touch the ground,i fail.... undecided undecided

dont send me Roller Skating,ski driving,snow boarding and such....i will fail and possibly harm myself.... undecided undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 8:31pm On Nov 06, 2018
FrudstaPresidnt:
China to take over Kenya. Stay relaxed for details....

yeah,i saw the documentary on youtube...kenyans ranting upandan because of fish.....

kiiikikikiki.....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:31pm On Nov 06, 2018
Nowenuse:


You want to compare a civil war that took 3 million lives and burnt cities/financial centres to the ground? Do you know the cost of such wars?
Or you want to compare over 30 years of military dictatorship to Moi's regime?

Yes you have Somalis I know, but what percentage of your population are they? (35%)?

Nigeria's inequality is not worse because the statistics used for judging extreme poverty does not apply to rural Nigerians. That of urban Nigerians is very understandable and acceptable, cos it is impossible to live in a city without spending cash, but it is very possible in rural Nigeria.
Imagine calling people who farm and sell bags and bags of foodstuffs extremely poor. They may not have cash on their hands but they have acres of fertile lands at their disposal.

The military rule ended where was your development compared to Kenya by then? You were much ahead, so that's not an excuse.

The same way you defend your small scale farmers who depend on rain for survival, you should also know those indigenous Kenyan communities like the Maasais and others in northern Kenya are one of the richest people, they also depends on nature... So u should not brag about good rains, you have nothing to do with it...

Kenya's agricultural sector is much modernised than almost any other countries in Africa, in exception of those pastoralists
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:35pm On Nov 06, 2018
AmenhotepZuid:
@Taywhatever
ZIMBABWE IS MORE DEVELOPED THAN YOUR TINY KENYA. They're going to open the gap as soon Bob goes to heaven.
Already in RSA we're busy with PLANS FOR ZIMBABWEAN MALLS, HOTEL, OFFICES DEVELOPMENTS.....Thanks to the fact they're open for business now.

WHAT IS THERE TO SEE IN KENYA....SKINNY LIONS MAYBE
He he he he....Can any Kenyan answer this? Pwa ha ha ha..skinny lion? Yes very true. The Last time I checked,the lions population have dwindled drastically in Kenya.The reason? Lack of food.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 06, 2018
Donmedrac:
Stupid Kenyas comparing themselves to us, the giant.

Foolish Nigerians inviting other Africans for some useless country comparison threads.
By the way,you should be knowing that you're the giant of Africa in population,size and an oil obsessed economy,nothing more!
You're also the giant of poverty in the world.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kur17:


RSA economy is almost stagnant and you're hallucinating about Zimbabwe's, you must be a white bushman...

Their economy even is growing in a negative direction.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:39pm On Nov 06, 2018
Jonraid:
Port Harcourt,Calabar and most of Nigerian 'cities' can only beat Mombasa in population but not in terms of total wealth held and the number of high net worth individuals!

These Nigerians usually think a city by definition is its population size only!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:40pm On Nov 06, 2018
Kazikazi:
He he he he....Can any Kenyan answer this? Pwa ha ha ha..skinny lion? Yes very true. The Last time I checked,the lions population have dwindled drastically in Kenya.The reason? Lack of food.

What about albinos in Tanzania, have you lazy people sacrificed all of them ...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 8:43pm On Nov 06, 2018
Yobeezy:


These Nigerians usually think a city by definition is its population size only!

not realy....money wambe too....kiiikikikiki....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:43pm On Nov 06, 2018
FrudstaPresidnt:
You have been buried grin

What is this, your fifth moniker? Amazingly you are still congratulating yourself for nothing. smiley

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