TwoBottles:
The traditional institution should be scrapped. It is the most corrupt and prejudiced institution in the whole country. Traditional rulers are champions in land grabbing and voodoo. If I remember my history lessons very well; they encouraged slavery by accepting little gifts from Europeans and sold their people for a pittance. Till date, they haven't changed.

Apparently, you don't remember your history lessons very well.

Is that the oba of Benin I am seeing at the back?
What a big disrespect to the bini kingdom.

BeautifulMind2:

Obi of Onitsha is not behind he is setting the same row with Oni, the person that captured them was standing in front of Obi

be comforting your self...

Lenadiva:
Who is decieving this one?. Do you lesting to yourself?. No king in this country can brag of wealth, influence and whatsoever with the sultan of Sokoto. Stop smoking around.

sultan is their boss, the real king of Nigeria

See as sanusi open teeth.
Hope they are all ready for the Great Collapse

Amarabae:
Is that the oba of Benin I am seeing at the back?
What a big disrespect to the bini kingdom.

thats where he belongs.the picture is the true reflection of nigeria when british came .history can never be re written.

Prince Charles might never be king

kapelvej:
See Oba of Benin Like House boy. This why his father never attends any of this silly events

Abeg which kind tin be dis you dey call a whole monarch such name. I dont like that. Lets respect kings abeg. You can attack the people but not kings. Abeg stop it.

davidnazee:


That is your interpretation of the photo.. The sitting arrangement was done by federal government not based on historical relevance.,
From the photo you can see that even though Oba of Benin is placed at the back, his symbol of Power is still besides him, if He was sitted right beside the Prince Charles he will still have his Symbol of power beside him.. unlike Oni wey dem drive him own far away..
Oba of Benin remains the most revered and greatest..

This is tradition laced with modern Nigeria bigoted politics. You can be rest assured that GEJ would have arranged the chairs in a slightly different position. No big deal here. Just politics of the moment.

baby124:
Alaafin didn’t even bother to go there. Apart from bleaching, Alaafin is a radical fellow if you look at him closely. That’s why I like him. He won’t honor such funny invitations. Let Queen Eliza come and visit him herself.

If Alaafin go there he no go gree sit anywhere behind Sultan. If they put him behind Sultan he will move his chair himself and sit in front on same row with Sultan.

AyakaDunukofia:

This is tradition laced with modern Nigeria bigoted politics. You can be rest assured that GEJ would have arranged the chairs in a slightly different position. No big deal here. Just politics of the moment.

that arrangement was how british met nigeria. sultan and ooni past and present have always been ahead of others

davidnazee:


That is your interpretation of the photo.. The sitting arrangement was done by federal government not based on historical relevance.,
From the photo you can see that even though Oba of Benin is placed at the back, his symbol of Power is still besides him, if He was sitted right beside the Prince Charles he will still have his Symbol of power beside him.. unlike Oni wey dem drive him own far away..
Oba of Benin remains the most revered and greatest..

His symbol of power will be beside him because you dont know what that sword stand for. Yoruba gave you that sword as staff of office for Eweka and his descendants. If you all knew the meaning of the sword you would have found another staff for your Oba to carry around informally. Abeg no let me talk about Orisa early morning o. I take God beg you no provoke me to talk about the deities at all at all e too early. Just let matter rest after day break we fit shout about shango sef if you like but no be now.

princdebola201:
that arrangement was how british met nigeria. sultan and ooni past and present have always been ahead of others

No mind dem.

BeautifulMind2:

No whala you don win, it doesn't change the fact that Obi of Onitsha is most educated and the richest among them

Igbo people and their superiority tendency.
They often feel saddened and dejected when seen other tribe surpassed them in any thing.

BeautifulMind2:
I'm talking of 1st class monarchs there, Obi of Onitsha is the Chairman of board of directors of International brewery (IB) he is the chairman of Diamond bank, also the chairman Unilever and Intafact beverages, he had 30 years career with the Royal Dutch Shell Petroleum Group of Companies in Nigeria and overseas.

Inferiority complex.

Everyone sha want his or her traditional ruler at the front.Igbo people with problem forgeting that obi is just like baale of a village

Realdeals:
Juju no fit harm Prince Charles? I also believe the traditional system has outlived its usefulness, it is now an avenue of wastefulness and oppression.
Subjects lives in penury, while the Kings in opulence.

But your modern system that is still relevant is not wasteful and oppressing?
Electorate live in affluence while the president and governors live in penury, right?

TwoBottles:
The traditional institution should be scrapped. It is the most corrupt and prejudiced institution in the whole country. Traditional rulers are champions in land grabbing and voodoo. If I remember my history lessons very well; they encouraged slavery by accepting little gifts from Europeans and sold their people for a pittance. Till date, they haven't changed.

Rubbish.
The guest, prince Charles, who is he? modern ruler?

If your traditional rulers were land grabbers that sent their people to slavery, are they not better than your president and governors who grab your lives and send you to hell?

resurgent4oodua:
Where Obal Rilwan Akiolu in all of these?

I thought the snubbed the Ooni thinking he's a young man?

Ooni is the Arole oodua. Any other Oba is a counterfeit!

Ooni is the number 1 king in yoruba land. Alaafin is second

TonyeBarcanista:
All these our traditional rulers wey no get level but de collect free money from government purse and stealing of lands.

Meanwhile, I declare this meeting NULL and VOID for reason that no Amayanabo or Pere from the great Ijaw nation was invited

Amanyanabo ends in Rivers state. ���

ImperialYoruba:


His symbol of power will be beside him because you dont know what that sword stand for. Yoruba gave you that sword as staff of office for Eweka and his descendants. If you all knew the meaning of the sword you would have found another staff for your Oba to carry around informally. Abeg no let me talk about Orisa early morning o. I take God beg you no provoke me to talk about the deities at all at all e too early. Just let matter rest after day break we fit shout about shango sef if you like but no be now.

not trying to flame up the heated conversation already. Just wanted to correct you on the impression that the Ada and Eben were given to us by Oronmiyan. sorry ehn....those royal swords and the royal stool were invented by the Ogisos....Go read your GST again

princdebola201:
that arrangement was how british met nigeria. sultan and ooni past and present have always been ahead of others

Your submission is profoundly unfounded.

Did the British meet the present Nigerians running a single polity? I guess you'll agree with me the answer is No.

Then, how were the traditional stools you mentioned ahead of others in pre British Nigeria when they didn't have anything in common?

You must not type an argument just because you want to type something. Thinking is an essential aspect of a learned discussion.

The British met autonomous entities. And city states with very well respected rulers that were more powerful than the ones mentioned; Jaja of Opobo, Nana of Itshekiri, Oba Ado of Lagos Island, Kings of Bonny, kings of Benin were some of them.

These powerful city states existed without any contact with others in present Nigeria.


See the photo of Ooni at Onitsha, did the chair arrangement make the Ooni less powerful than the Obi? No.

TonyeBarcanista:
All these our traditional rulers wey no get level but de collect free money from government purse and stealing of lands.

Meanwhile, I declare this meeting NULL and VOID for reason that no Amayanabo or Pere from the great Ijaw nation was invited

Amanyanabo begins and ends in certain part of Rivers state bro...

resurgent4oodua:


It's your innate bigotry and inferiority complex that is speaking.

He asked a valid question that was important to him. Why resort to personal insults? You didn't have to comment, you know. Let's try to be civil.

DeLaRue:
Sultan & Ooni seated on the right & left of Charles. Obi of Onitsha, Emir of Kano, Oba of Benin (Isn't that him in burgundy?) sitted one row behind, as if they are junior. The Obi should be at the front too so that all 3 major groups are duly acknowledged.

I wonder how the federal govt decided that Ooni & Sultan are the most senior.

May be, I'm making too much out of this, but I doubt I am.

It's not Federal government decision. It's simply deeply rooted in our history as a people and the Europeans know it.

Don't forget that Europeans lived in ancient "Nigeria" from generation to generation for over 500 years. They know us and our history and unlike us, they documented it.

sangresan:


Which position?

Ooni of Ife, to all intent and purpose, is a British-made king...The colonial officers elevated that office as if it had any special importance before hand...

... proof please ... thank you

sangresan:


Ogbeni, go and sleep...Oodua sabi im pikins....

AroleOodua, because of the sitting position?

Of course, his office was made relevant by the British Colonial Authority plus the Awolowo-led Action Group govt.

Y

proof of how it happened from sources other than my daddy told me? thank you

AyakaDunukofia:

Your submission is profoundly unfounded.

Did the British meet the present Nigerians running a single polity? I guess you'll agree with me the answer is No.

Then, how were the traditional stools you mentioned ahead of others in pre British Nigeria when they didn't have anything in common?

You must not type an argument just because you want to type something. Thinking is an essential aspect of a learned discussion.

The British met autonomous entities. And city states with very well respected rulers that were more powerful than the ones mentioned; Jaja of Opobo, Nana of Itshekiri, Oba Ado of Lagos Island, Kings of Bonny, kings of Benin were some of them.

These powerful city states existed without any contact with others in present Nigeria.


See the photo of Ooni at Onitsha, did the chair arrangement make the Ooni less powerful than the Obi? No.

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Culture and civilizations in the subsaharan region have always had contacts with themselves even before the colonialists. They paid tributes and taxes to themselves depending on superiority which is often defined by the military might of a kingdom, it's wealth, it's technical skills, ancientness, etc.


The Europeans didn't come to rank, they met the rankings and they observed and documented a lot during their over 500 years stay in parts of the region that will later become known as Nigeria. Benin for instance paid tribute to Ife, Eko paid to Benin, amongst others.

And your photo and its accompanying comment just exposed your desperation (you should regret going that route). That's the Obis palace and not some meeting of Nigeria monarchs.

He welcomed a visitor with whatever he has always welcomed visitors with.

Nairaland is a home to so many comedians, uninformed bunch of myopic idiots.
Some never do well were throwing jibes why the Oba of Benin went to Abuja and I told u guys to watch how all prominent kings will be in Abuja.

Now is the sitting position....

Do your research very well,that sitting position has nothing to do with history but the national tradition council.