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Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by I888(m): 9:40am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Pekele007:don't mind him. He an APC foot soldier 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by AmazingELixir: 9:41am On Nov 10, 2018 |
![]() Op it appears your BMC stipend had just been increased....a worker must earn his keeps. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Namzy(m): 9:43am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Well said. But |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Didi2d(m): 9:43am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Buhari's government is bad, but he's still the favorite amongst the present politician 2 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Melody25: 9:44am On Nov 10, 2018 |
The writer after making only one point delved into his real character. That is campaigning for the lifeless one. I wonder when most of the so called APC sympathizers are going to wake up. 3 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Ewedegubbler: 9:44am On Nov 10, 2018 |
chukwuibuipob: Gbegiri is not good for your poverty ravaged brains. I guess the pepper induced ulcer has turned your toilet smell mouth into public latrine. Why won’t you hate Atiku but love his business partner Tinube bobo Chicago who owns half of yorubaland. Sophisticated olodo 4 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Nobody: 9:44am On Nov 10, 2018 |
like he said "opinion".actually those banks were setup not to even run any single accounts but for consultation purposes! like someone rightfully said, so much trash in one post! 3 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 10, 2018 |
I think Buhari is not doing enough. He should start distancing himself from the likes of orji and tinuibi |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by boxypane(m): 9:46am On Nov 10, 2018 |
AZeD1:Please try and make sense. Assignment for you, read what happened to HSBC recently in South Africa. 1 Like |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by fuck419: 9:47am On Nov 10, 2018 |
[The article is loaded. However, your political position is clear. A good public speaker would stay on the fence and not take sides! quote author=sekembaakesan post=72833746]I don't like Buhari's presidency but this is the spoken truth People have been screaming about the exit of HSBC and UBS as sign of bad economics. That's a huge lie. I will try to explain it in a very simple way. HSBC and UBS were never set up for regular banking. When I say regular banking I mean retail banking. They never ran salary accounts; they were never set up to afford loans to customers etc. Their sole purpose was to help customers who can afford their services an easy way to transfer funds overseas. Many do not know that since the inception of BVN which has made it easier for financial regulatory bodies to monitor outflow & inflow on every account, HSBC has been plotting their exit. If anyone can make their books public, you would find out they had more outflow than inflow. BVN was created February 2014 and then enforced by this government as from 2015. What did that do? Every account owner was forced to get a BVN code on their account (s). So if law enforcement and financial regulatory bodies accuse you of fraud, with your BVN they can tell.... which account(s) you have funds stashed. Any account without a BVN can no longer be run. Movement of (illegal) huge sums especially overseas became a massive problem. So imagine a bank whose main source of revenue is moving funds overseas, suddenly can stay for months on end and the only customers you get are those who maybe want pay school fees overseas or medicals, won't you close shop? No more wires of $200,000 and above to Dubai to buy that exotic penthouse or carrying on with shopping sprees. No more bank instruments to private jet companies... overseas. The importation of big boy toys; yachts, helicopters have reduced drastically. Now, once you try to initiate a huge wire transfer, CBN red flags that account and next thing you know compliance is calling the account officer to produce KYC. Within minutes SFU is doing a background check, thunder fire you if you are a civil servant or close to government. You would have to explain what the funds are for/how they were acquired and this drastically hit such banks like HSBC and UBS! Banks like Stanbic IBTC are able to stay afloat because even though they use the same model as HSBC, they are also solid in retail banking. Any bank that opens shop under this current government with the sole aim of moving funds overseas will surely fail! Look closely at those who are leading groups against PMB they are private jet, helicopter, yacht, schooners owners. Many own those beautiful houses we see in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Oman, Muscat, Seychelles, London, USA. Go to our airports especially Lagos and Abuja, all those beautiful girls who once used to sell Dubai real estate deals are out of jobs. The few you see have stopped hounding travelers like before. Once upon a time you would see them hanging around airports and 5 star hotels, it made me wonder why Nigerians were seriously marketing UAE real state. How do you think the transactions were being made? Through banks like HSBC and UBS (many of our local banks also were complicit)! Now every dollar that passes through CBN to a foreign bank must have complete paperwork! Bankers are now very careful, no one wants to be invited by SFU (special fraud unit) or EFCC to produce a customer. Who are those crying about their exit? The Fayoses, Atikus, Ben Bruces and their minions etc. Look at the youth coming online to defend them; many were being flown by helicopter to private resorts all over the country. That tap has dried up and that’s the reason you see many of them online pouring vituperation on PMB. About 4 years ago, I told a friend that if PMB wins election few banks would be in trouble, Buhari won and it didn't take long it started happening. Many of the bank heads used depositors monies to sponsor politicians/campaigns, when investigations started many tried to not only hide their shady deals but shield customers under investigation. Why won't these people hate PMB? Why won't they blame their woes on PMB? When I say many of these banks aren't setup for the common man, people wonder at what I mean. A very good example; write a lovely proposal for a good business deal and take to the banks and 90% of the time you wont get funding but let APC and PDP finish primaries and produce governorship candidates. Both candidates can work into same bank and get as much as N500m each for campaigns. Banks didn't care then. What's the worst that could happen? Worst case scenario, one candidate would lose. Whoever wins would bring enough investments that would cover the N1bn both took, that was conventional banking until PMB came onboard. If say odudu bank sponsors Rochas and he wins he would make sure almost all state accounts go to odudu bank. Some governors went as far as making their account officers commissioners as compensation (I don’t want to call names). Some bank relationship managers would go on leave close to election period to join the clients on the campaign trail, once the client wins they resign their appointments with the bank and become political appointees. Why would a bank worker do that if the bank hasn't invested heavily on that politician? Suddenly PMB appears with this yeye BVN, TSA! Banks now see SFU officers like regular staff as they are monitoring everything. @officialEFCC under magu has become a pain in the ass because money can't just disappear. Who do they blame? PMB! The instant BVN came into effect; do you know how many accounts were lying dormant because of BVN? With huge sums in them! Many folks especially people being investigated wouldn't want to come forward to claim them; oga Magu and gang were waiting. When many of these politicians or billionaires tell you the economy isn't doing so well, look closely at the person because many of them own some of these 5 star hotels. Some rooms go as much N300, 000 à night. Once upon time some folks would pay for as much as one year for a room/suite upfront. Many of those militants/ folks involved in oil bunkering operate this way. Mondays through Fridays they are in the creeks sabotaging oil installations, Friday they get into their convoys to PHC and then jet off to Abuja and Lagos where they eventually check into these hotels. You enter a place like Transcorp weekends you see them at the lobby, poolside and by Monday morning, banks are wiring funds to these hotels to cover expenses. Today, the oil bunkering isn’t as lucrative as it once was. First price of crude has dropped so selling bunkered oil isn't really worth it as it used to be. Secondly many countries are cutting down on the purchase of crude and third our military is hitting them harder than before so who is to blame? They tell you banks are falling because of PMB; lie! Banks are falling because banks were never made for the common man. I mean naija banks! TSA has collapsed most government accounts into central accounts. So we no longer have many government accounts littered all over our banks, many of such accounts were set up just to steal and launder government monies. Are these tweets saying Nigeria has suddenly become fine for the common man? HELL NO! Nigeria for some years now has never favored us the ordinary folks but this is the first time we are seeing the crooked elite joining us to complain! The fact they are complaining means something is being done to halt their crooked ways. Whatever it is, BABA PLEASE Continue! And as for the common man, we didn’t get here in four years! It took years of plundering, bad/no planning to get here. It will take a while to get us out. Signed Concerned citizen who wouldn’t want to get fired by Monday morning for saying what needs to be said. THE END As seen on a Facebook page [/quote] |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by teewhydope(m): 9:47am On Nov 10, 2018 |
I888: don't be ridiculous. how does registering not long ago a problem. just tackle his points or stfu 7 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by gidjah(m): 9:48am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Hmmmmi love the write up and the content.Very explicit and straight hard talk too.But it is the bitter fact about corruption I'm this nation and we have to start from some where.Baba may be very nepotistic and tribalistic as very open as we all can see which makes me dislike his person so so much, but I love his doggedness and plans for the future of this nation.I might as well still give him my vote come next year! 9 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 10, 2018 |
It couldnt have been more explicit than this. The truth is, enemies of the state are not happy because Nigeria is currently on the path to Greatness. All these are signs / symptoms that dark days are over. When your enemies are not happy with you, it means you are progressing. The truth is that PMB was slow, but the economy is stable now and the foundation for success has already been laid. So let us give chance to good governance. Buhari is a man and is not perfect, but his imperfections are more tolerable than the perfections of all PDPs and their sympathisers. No room for Atikulooters n Obituaries! 9 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Such an intelligent write up. Unfortunately the only thing my fellow country men could say about this is to start insulting each others tribe. How low we have sunk! 5 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by oglalasioux(m): 9:49am On Nov 10, 2018 |
So much facts in the post. Question is; How does this government's fight against corruption benefit the common man? Secondly, how is it that APC members are all corruption free when they are practically reeking of corruption. |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by mployer(m): 9:50am On Nov 10, 2018 |
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Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by jpmoriarti(m): 9:50am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Nice read ! The rich are crying now and they want PMB's head. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by mployer(m): 9:50am On Nov 10, 2018 |
The banks are there for foreign investors who don't have trust on our local banks. Trust me. These investors will leave the moment the banks left. Just like we feel more comfortable with Nigerian banks when we visit other African countries, these investors feel more comfortable with these banks. 2 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by bedspread: 9:50am On Nov 10, 2018 |
[s] sekembaakesan:[/s] 2 Likes
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Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Egein(m): 9:51am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Rr |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Alepa(m): 9:51am On Nov 10, 2018 |
OkaNaUbe:Why didn’t Jonathan enforce the bvn . You clown! 2 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:51am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Caseless:Can you just imagine all these bro?! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by ivandragon: 9:52am On Nov 10, 2018 |
companies/organisations with foreign investors will always seek to move funds to their homeland, after all, the seed money for the business, directly or indirectly, came from overseas. besides, such big companies pulling out sends a cautionary signal to other related investors as to the soundness of the economy. furthermore, people erroneously say GEJ did not have the will to implement TSA & BVN... I guess most who say that have no idea how policies should be implemented. on TSA, it was been implemented gradually so as not to cause too much financial difficulties & to also to resolve challenges as they arise. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/fg-saves-n500bn-through-implementation-of-single-treasury-account/ the TSA was a well articulated plan, PMB just rushed things without taking due cognisance of certain identified peculiarities. even under him, some organisations are still not following TSA fully... https://punchng.com/tsa-reps-query-buharis-exemption-of-n50bn-nnpc-accounts/ on BVN, it was a planned policy which had specific targets & timelines. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/05/bvn-the-banking-public-and-the-june-deadline/ PMB did not do anything extraordinary about BVN. 3 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by nothingspoil70: 9:54am On Nov 10, 2018 |
I888:Here they come, the uncultured children of hate 2 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by 4Play(m): 9:55am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Here is a simple experiment: Type into Google the name of any major international bank followed by the words 'money laundering'. Whether it's Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, Barclays, e.t.c; all have a news link relating to a money laundering scandal. Are we then going to say that all major international banks should not operate in Nigeria as Nigeria is too honest a country for such banks to function? HSBC and UBS operate in numerous well functioning countries, yet Buharists want us to believe that we are too honest for them. The problem with the pro-Buhari crowd is that their attempts to portray a failed government as competent keeps running up against the obstacles posed by reality. Unable to use their usual tactic of denouncing critics as IPOB or PDP, they have resorted to scouring the internet looking for negative news stories about HSBC and UBS. Desperate stuff. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by doctokwus: 9:55am On Nov 10, 2018 |
The Facebook poster is an illiterate and d post fit only for d trashbin it belongs. So HSBC is only set up to launder money? If I see this kind of post on fb,its just to permanently block such individual before the person corrupts me with his st upidity. 5 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Baloranking(m): 9:58am On Nov 10, 2018 |
AZeD1:Did you even read it 2 Likes |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by greatiyk4u(m): 9:59am On Nov 10, 2018 |
B |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by hensley059: 9:59am On Nov 10, 2018 |
Trash..absolute trash The $5million bribe to gandollar was not flagged by Either bvn or cbn because the money did not come from the air, then what r u saying?? U talked about bunkering?? U know nothing about it please so i wount waste my time lecturing u about it.. Right now the biggest bunker in Nigeria is related to your saint PMB and its a fact.. If u know u know sekembaakesan: 1 Like |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by AdesegunSanni89: 9:59am On Nov 10, 2018 |
PMB is the greatest. |
Re: Real Reason HSBC And UBS Exited Nigeria! by Mysselff2: 9:59am On Nov 10, 2018 |
AZeD1: I tell you my brother,,,,, As if funds are no longer being moved offshore 2 Likes |
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