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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by sasol: 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
AmenhotepZuid:ek se,dankie |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:45pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Jonraid: Check the date. It is June 2018. Meaning it has expired. We are in November 2018. Many branded chains have opened in many cities afterwards. This is one of them below. Besides, Quantity doesn't tantamount to valuable. You have Quantity we have Valuable. Nigerian hotels most valuable in Africa- Nigerian hotels most valuable in Africa-Report The report depicts hotel business in Africa as being viable despite challenges. Nigerian hotels are the most valuable on the African mainland, the African Hotel Report 2017 that is set to be released today in Rwanda has shown. August year-to-date data shows a 1.2-percent decline in occupancy to 44.3 percent, but a 6.8-percent increase in Average Daily Rate(ADR) to NGN47,819.53. When measured in U.S. dollars, however, ADR declined 23.3 percent to $149.58. But the report also notes the socio-economic problems that Nigeria faces that is affecting the sector. For instance, low oil prices as well as security concerns in Lagos. Nigerian hotels challenges David Harper of Hotels Partners Africa observes that these challenges have seen values fall by 16.4 percent in the last two years. Notwithstanding, average values are the third highest in Africa, behind only the Seychelles and Mauritius. “Despite the challenges Nigeria remains the most significant hotel market in West Africa, with almost 6,100 branded guestrooms across 41 hotels, with 21 brands and 14 hotel companies represented in 9 cities,” says Mr Harper. Already 61 hotel projects and more branded guestrooms-10,313-have been proposed in Nigeria more than any other country in Africa. “This report shows that the hotel industry in Africa is still a very good investment, despite the cyclical nature of the property market.” https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hotelmanagement.net/development/marriott-international-signs-seven-new-hotels-across-africa&ved=2ahUKEwigvtKa5M7eAhWEL8AKHZM4DLYQFjARegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2CauTRttY3OVXDXlo9HDid&cshid=1542026595114
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:46pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
AmenhotepZuid: Chai! E no good ooo. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:54pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
AmenhotepZuid: There's no city in Nigeria without high-rise. The difference is, you park all high-rise in a city in one particular spot. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:56pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Uhuru will leave us when will be around 140-150B dollars (15 trillion Kshs) in 2023. That is Treasury projection based on 6% average growth rate. I think we might re-base again around there and realize the economy is larger - Ghana are aggressively doing this - their base year is recommended 5yrs - ours is 10yrs and I don't see that changing - because for re-basing you need lots of data that you can only get from census - the developed world have 5yr census circle - we can't afford to do that. Anyway IMF/WB think we will be around 130B in 2022. 10 yrs from now - we should be comfortably around 270-300B - not far from where South Africa & Egypt are currently - and by then I am betting we would be 3rd biggest economy after Egypt & South Africa - I think Egypt will certainly overtake South Africa soon. Nigeria GDP is over-inflated and everyone with a pair of eyes can see that. Their budget at 30B - combined state+federal - tells you there is nothing there to see. Jonraid: 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:01pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Hahahaha! Lagos beat their Nairobi while Abuja and Port Harcourt trashed Mombasa hands down. Bhuhahahaha! 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:05pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
You're starting from a very low base of 7,000 beds in branded hotels - I think - so to reach kenya level in 20,000 you have to really work hard. South Africa have 60,000 branded hotels - that is a huge mountain. forgiveness: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 2:06pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Seeing the countries we're numbered with and the pace of growth, we're really not doing bad by all African standards...I just love my "tiny kenya", a country like Namibia which has a quarter population of what Tanzanian has is ranked higher than it... Not to speak of Nigeria vs Kenya... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Does that change the fact that Nigeria's hotel is more valuable than that your 20,000 empty hotels? My friend, see fact. Nigeria leads in the whole of Africa mainland in value. We no bi mate.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:12pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Where did you get that fact from? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
KENYA NYAHURUHURU TURNOFF 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:14pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Kur17: Kenya is in Tanzania's level. Way below Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 2:15pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Yobeezy: Why are you insulting us. I just said what I observed |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:17pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
The internet I did this - I added 36 state +federal budget - and removed the federal allocation. Federal Gov Budget (USD) 1999:$13.6bn 2000:$8.2bn 2001:$8.3bn 2002:$9.5bn 2003:$11.4bn 2004:$9.8bn 2005:$12.4bn 2006:$14.7bn 2007:$18.8bn 2008:$21.1bn 2009:$25.8bn 2010:$29.3bn 2011:$31.8bn 2012:$31.4bn 2013:$31.2bn 2014:$31.1bn 2015: $26.7bn 2016: $31.9bn 2017: $23.6bn 2018: $28.2bn — BudgIT Nigeria (@BudgITng) November 10, 2017 Add up state budget and remove the federal allocation - so you don't double count. Or just add federal allocation (28B) PLUS IGR from the 36 states (only Lagos seem to generate some serious money -1B dollars) forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 2:18pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
forgiveness: Nawa for you o, shey u no fit let them face theirselves. U gats chuk mouth ni. Abeg just cheer d Tz guy e go pepper dem well well |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:20pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Jonraid: Kenyans like https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hotelmanagement.net/development/marriott-international-signs-seven-new-hotels-across-africa&ved=2ahUKEwigvtKa5M7eAhWEL8AKHZM4DLYQFjARegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2CauTRttY3OVXDXlo9HDid&cshid=1542026595114 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:20pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
NJoro turn off? Kenyanstar: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 2:21pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
forgiveness: You ignore the fact that Nigeria is four Kenya combined in terms of population, and you're slightly ahead, you should be ashamed of that |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Kenyanstar:Where exactly is this? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Show me the 2018 budget of 36 states with reliable source. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Why would you remove federal allocation when the same body that allocates to states allocate to federal and also the local government and thus every body budgets based on allocation (federal,state and local government) plus igr Don't look foolish to over 180 million Nigerians. I doesn't cost you anything to ask 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:24pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Kur17: Did I hear you say slightly? At least, you have agreed for once Nigeria is Kenya's father. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:25pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
They are valuable thanks to shortage - it sign of un-development and unmet demand. If you go to south sudan or somali - you'll find very valuable tent hotels. For an economy that want to rival South Africa - you need 10 times your hotels - you bed capacity of 7,000 branded hotels - pale in comparison to their 60,000 or Kenya's 20,000. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:25pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
darfay: Bros, I wish to ignore but when I see lies, my spirit no gree me rest matter. Anyway, day TZ guy is doing a great job. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:27pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Double counting. Federal budget contains federal allocation to 36 states.Each State budget contain the same share of federal allocation. The total budget for Nigeria therefore is federal budget+IGR of the 36 states..which is about nothing except for 3 states (Lagos, River State and one more I forget). I do the same for Kenya. Total national budget +IGR for 47 counties. darfay: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 2:29pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
AmenhotepZuid: Nairobi is a slum. You hear that rvp2018. And to think the Kenyans said they would soon leave South Africa in the dust |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Google - I think anything close to 3B dollars - with about 1/3 from Lagos city. So 28B+3B=31. In Kenya it's 30B+1B=31. So officially this year tiny kenya with 90B economy has the same money in gov coffers with mighty Nigeria. forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 2:33pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: Stop sounding dumb abeg. The federal has never contained the state budget which has never contained the local government budget, not at any point since our independence. How can a budget(state and local government) be based on someone else's budget Don't forget we operate a federal government not a unitary one. Nigeria is not Kenya never assume 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Whatever rank you choose - Nairobi will always be top 5 africa city - and easily the 3rd important city - after Joburg & Egypt - sometimes Lagos & Cape town are slightly better - but overal Nairobi is hot on the heels of Joburg - and the South African is not happy. darfay: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:37pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
English comprehension is a problem for most of Nigeria because you've got the ugly pidgin messing your up. Although just based on this thread..it obvious the young generation of Nigerian are as dumb as Tanzania. It obvious your education that was strong in 60s and 70s...has gone to the dogs!!!!!!! Nigeria total budget is 28B - I think about 10B is federal allocation to states - meaning that money Abuja will wire to each of those states. Each state will do their budget....with estimate of what Abuja will wire to them...in addition to what they can generate and maybe borrow (they are very indebted). Kenya is a devolved gov. Our gov allocated counties money...about 3-4B dollars -- we cannot double count that. In short your total budget is 31B. ours is 31B. darfay: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:39pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: What causes shortage? Higher demand. That is economics for you. This for your information. 10,313 guestrooms has been proposed and under construction. See one of them. Jonraid: Kenyans like https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hotelmanagement.net/development/marriott-international-signs-seven-new-hotels-across-africa&ved=2ahUKEwigvtKa5M7eAhWEL8AKHZM4DLYQFjARegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2CauTRttY3OVXDXlo9HDid&cshid=1542026595114
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:41pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
rvp2018: In terms of what? |
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