afrodoc:
Messi that is in GOAT conversation.
The fact that you are not Messi or Pelé does not mean you are struggling.
Nobody said Aguero was on Messi’s level.
He is top 3 all time for Argentina, top 10 all time EPL with the best scoring ratio.
That is not struggling. You took a big L with your statement that he was finished.

Aguero is not delivering for Argentina at the same rate he delivers for City. That is my own point

Messi is a GOAT and was brought into this by another poster who tries to compare Agueros Argentine struggle with Messi. Messi isn't struggling with Argentina, Aguero is. Sometime Aguero even get benched atimes for nobodies like Pratto.

Messi is delivering what he is supposed to for Argentina that is why he has 64 goals for them

Aguero had to admit that he made several adjustments to his game under Pep which is why he was able to keep up

raumdeuter:


Argentinas top scorer of all time, 7 goals to qualify Argentina for the last world cup

Messi WC goals in the knockout stages: 0

What's the point of scoring 7 goals against farmers in Ecuador, Bolivia or Peru, and then when you face your mates like France, Germany, Netherlands, or Belgium, you are mute?

Messi has not delivered for Argentina, that's a fact.

So asking where Aguero's quality for Argentina is, is a foul throw

HanksAnuku:
Messi WC goals in the knockout stages: 0

What's the point of scoring 7 goals against farmers in Ecuador, Bolivia or Peru, and then when you face your mates like France, Germany, Netherlands, or Belgium, you are mute?

Messi has not delivered for Argentina, that's a fact.

So asking where Aguero's quality for Argentina is, is a foul throw

Without Messi Argentina wont even be in the world cup never mind playing in the knockout

raumdeuter:


Without Messi Argentina wont even be in the world cup never mind playing in the knockout

What's the point of playing in the tournament if you can never score in the key games?

See what some Argentina fans were saying in 2014:

dayokanu:
I dont care about the golden ball since Germans won the bigger prize

but giving Messi that award is laughable

4 goals against Bosnia , Nigeria and the great Iran. None in the knockout stage

Messi sef go know inside him that it was a useless award

and

dayokanu:


What did Messi do vs Belgium? He was useless from quarter finals till final

if its by quality of goals then Rodriguez, Cahill Van Persie and Robben are the ones

Not scoring vs Iran, Bosnia and Nigeria

In 2010 Forlan scored vs Germany, Holland the only big nations he played against

and

dayokanu:


Its obvious you are the one who didnt watch the matches

Forlan scored vs Holland and Germany same teams Messi faced and didnt even have a shot on target

also

dayokanu:


What are you saying ?

Messi only scored against useless football nations, was useless from quarter final

Rodriguez 6 goals, scored in every game. Muller 5 goals(Portugal, USA, Brazil) 4 assist

Tell us about Messi exploits at the business end of the world cup

in addition

dayokanu:


Vs Belgium Messi didnt do anything he wasnt among his team top 3 players on that day

Tell us what Messi did vs Belgium, Holland or Germany. We knew he was awesome vs useless nations he faced

HanksAnuku:
What's the point of playing in the tournament if you can never score in the key games?
See what some Argentina fans were saying in 2014:
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also
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Of course, Messi was not the best player at the world cup and not deserving of the award, Its another polling booth award for a non existent performance

The point is Messi took them to the world cup, if players like Aguero had made himself useful at any time whether qualifiers or knockout. Argentina would be successful

When Ronaldo was not there, Eder scored for Portugal

raumdeuter:


Of course, Messi was not the best player at the world cup and not deserving of the award, Its another polling booth award for a non existent performance

The point is Messi took them to the world cup, if players like Aguero had made himself useful at any time whether qualifiers or knockout. Argentina would be successful

When Ronaldo was not there, Eder scored for Portugal

The person I quoted describe Messi as being useless.
Aguero has scored in world cup knockout btw

HanksAnuku:
The person I quoted describe Messi as being useless.
Aguero has scored in world cup knockout btw

Of course I see that he described Messi as useless in that tournament from quarter final onwards and undeserving of the Player of the tournament

If Aguero was that useful for Argentina, he wont be getting benched for Pratto

monerozi5590:



Mourinho is miles ahead of Pochettino. Don't put both coaches in the same sentence.

Mourinho won the treble with Inter Milan. Players like Samuel Walter, Pandev and Milito were something else under the special one. Mourinho's FC Porto were something special too.

No one is comparing both of them pls and all I know is that pochettino is punching above his weight with his limited resources at spurs.

Dayo,

How do you justify Messi's well known struggles/choke jobs at the senior level of international competitions (World Cup & Copa America), yet you find a way crucify Hazard for not taking Belgium to the finals of the most recent world cup or his abysmal scoring record in the UCL?

P.S: I believe some of your arguments against uncle "Shaku Shaku" are valid as I have made my opinion about Sir "One Corner" known in the past but the above sounds hypocritic to me.

Bare in mind I am not comparing their levels of greatness as the former is considered the GOAT in some quarters while the latter will end up a Chelsea/ EPL legend, nothing more.

Roland17:
Dayo,

How do you justify Messi's well known struggles/choke jobs at the senior level of international competitions (World Cup & Copa America), yet you find a way crucify Hazard for not taking Belgium to the finals of the most recent world cup or his abysmal scoring record in the UCL?

P.S: I believe some of your arguments against uncle "Shaku Shaku" are valid as I have made my opinion about Sir "One Corner" known in the past but the above sounds hypocritic to me.

Bare in mind I am not comparing their levels of greatness as the former is considered the GOAT in some quarters while the latter will end up a Chelsea/ EPL legend, nothing more.

Hazard has struggled with Chelsea and Belgium in elite tournaments CL and World cup. So that shows us Hazard has no proven record of outstanding performance at elite level at ANY time in his career not club(CL) nor NT(world cup)

Messi has excelled in the CL and played the world cup final with Argentina. He was still Argentinas best player my argument was that there were players at the 2014 world cup better than him and Messi winning best player award in 2014 where he didnt score any knockout goal was just another of the polling booth awards.
2018, His country was struggling to qualify for the world cup when Messi was suspended, he came back and scored like 70% of the goals that took them to the world cup

Messi is Argentinas top scorer of all time, Probably Barcelonas top scorer of all time That is a track record of excellence across both club and country if we consider the names of legends that have played for Argentina and Barcelona which you will agree is far more distinguished than Belgium and Chelsea which Hazard cannot even make a dent at

Show me the parallels between Hazard that has failed at EVERY elite tournament for club and country vs Messi that is a CL legend and not

afrodoc:


Aguero is 3rd all time for Argentina.

Only Messi and Gabriel Batistuta have scored more.

He has done okay for them.

At club level he was prolific with and without Pep.

Your Agüero theory is wrong. You have to take this L like a Gee.

Keep embarrassing yourself....

raumdeuter:
diggz you have a packaged L from Benzema sent yesterday

First goal



Second goal (Own goal)

HanksAnuku:


What's the point of playing in the tournament if you can never score in the key games?

See what some Argentina fans were saying in 2014:


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This is funny... Some Argentine fans indeed

diggz:
Keep embarrassing yourself....

Its Benzema thats embarassing you not me

Benz has equalled the league goals he had last season in November

When I told you that Ronaldo was the one dulling him, you dey do strong head like Vespa motorcycle

raumdeuter:


Its Benzema thats embarassing you not me

Benz has equalled the league goals he had last season in November

When I told you that Ronaldo was the one dulling him, you dey do strong head like Vespa motorcycle

Ron dulling Benz in league games but not UCL...you do well


Agogo

diggz:
Ron dulling Benz in league games but not UCL...you do well
Agogo

You havent explained how a useless striker is the 4th highest goal scorer in the CL of all time

raumdeuter:


You havent explained how a useless striker is the 4th highest goal scorer in the CL of all time

Because Ronaldo was dead....

diggz:


Because Ronaldo was dead....

Ronaldo died that was the reason Benzema became the 4th highest goal scorer in the CL

Egbon diggz this your L you should use water to take it morning afternoon and night

raumdeuter:


Ronaldo died that was the reason Benzema became the 4th highest goal scorer in the CL

Egbon diggz this your L you should use water to take it morning afternoon and night

Atole...see you trying to dash your L to someone else or have logic finally failed you?

You: benzema can't score in the league cuz of Ronaldo

Me: benzema is useless

You : benzema is the 4th UCL highest goal scorer

Me: why didn't Ronaldo stop him from scoring in the UCL...

Agogo....abeg hold your L strong

diggz:



Atole...see you trying to dash your L to someone else or have logic finally failed you?

You: benzema can't score in the league cuz of Ronaldo

Me: benzema is useless

You : benzema is the 4th UCL highest goal scorer

Me: why didn't Ronaldo stop him from scoring in the UCL...

Agogo....abeg hold your L strong

How will the 4th top scorer in the CL be useless?

raumdeuter:


How will the 4th top scorer in the CL be useless?

Why didn't Ronaldo stop him from scoring goals in the cl? Or did you kill Ronaldo so your useless striker can score goals in cl?

diggz:


Why didn't Ronaldo stop him from scoring goals in the cl? Or did you kill Ronaldo so your useless striker can score goals in cl?

He scored it despite Ronaldos overwhelming influence

Now tell us why the 4th top scorer in the CL is useless

HanksAnuku:


What's the point of playing in the tournament if you can never score in the key games?

See what some Argentina fans were saying in 2014:


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finish him

shao kahn wins
flawless victory

raumdeuter:


He scored it despite Ronaldos overwhelming influence

Now tell us why the 4th top scorer in the CL is useless

You are drunk sir!

raumdeuter:


Its Benzema thats embarassing you not me

Benz has equalled the league goals he had last season in November

When I told you that Ronaldo was the one dulling him, you dey do strong head like Vespa motorcycle

diggz:


You are drunk sir!

Benzema has matched the goals from the entire last season in November which proves my point and shows that you have not been sober for a long time

dayokanu shot himself
Raumdeuter is one hell of a double standard dude

Afolabi6046:
dayokanu shot himself

Ramdeuter is one hell of a double standard dude

Which double standard

Wetin I miss, na Dayokanu post all those things

Jorginho made only 50 passes before he was subbed on Sunday, all thanks to David Luiz

ICYMI :- Chelsea boss Maurizio Sarri has become the first manager in Premier League history to remain unbeaten in his first 12 games in the competition (W8 D4 L0), overtaking former Nottingham Forest manager Frank Clark's previous record of 11 games, set in 1994.

Afolabi6046:
Jorginho made only 50 passes before he was subbed on Sunday, all thanks to David Luiz

Siggurdson man marked Jorginho out of the game.

That could be a potential problem going forward. Jorginho isnt very mobile

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