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Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 12:03pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
Abuheekmat: Lolxxxxx, you think I have time for people of jabatiyya. I no get your time now. You can call me a fool from now till tomorrow, Shuuuuuuu, na so jabata dey do. it's not new to us |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 12:05pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
Abuheekmat: I can't stop laughing Oooooh, can u see what I was talking about, takfeery people, they only know how to kafara. Jabata's congregation that has dissociate finish, hahaha. Now that Abu ibeji is gone, who is next to leave? maybe u. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44: everyone has already seen how dull you are and it's clear to them that you know exactly absolutely nothing about islam. all you do is rant.. Mufti menk does taawil of quran with is logic mufti menk has no al walah wabarah mufti menk is no scholar of islam, he's just a dolumudil |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Nobody: 1:15pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44: every sane person knows abu ibeji is a kafir. he himself knows he's a kafir. like I said, all you do is rant.. when you are asked questions about islam now , you will lock up |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Nobody: 1:17pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44: explain just 1 reason.. just 1 reason that jabata is a kafir. then bring dalil from kitab wa sunnah to back yourself up and explain |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 2:56pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
Abuheekmat: Lolxxxxx, was kafir part of the title I gave to jabata, go back and read my comments jor, I don't have ur time. Apart from jabata, can you name one scholar in southwest pls |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 3:00pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
Abuheekmat: Abuheekmat: Abuheekmat: Lolxxxxx, was kafir part of the title I gave to jabata, go back and read my comments jor, I don't have ur time. Apart from jabata, can you name one scholar in southwest pls AbdulHakeem44: Abuheekmat: Lolxxxxx, was kafir part of the title I gave to jabata, go back and read my comments jor, I don't have ur time. Apart from jabata, can you name one scholar in southwest pls Which scholar has called mufti menk a kafir except your jahil murokab jabata. Am not even serious to be arguing with someone with jabatawisky virus. Nonsense. I pray ALLāh opened ur eyes to the truth and not let u die following jabata blindly. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by caybee007(m): 3:52pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
To correct you, Ustadh Sarumi practices sufism for a very long time, you can call to ask him. secondly, speaking about aqeedah all the time is not fard ayn but fard kifayah. If other scholars are discussing and I am not it and I do not go against scholars discussing it I am not. I can be a scholar specializing in Fiqh and Akhlaq, and if anyone approaches me for issues of aqeedah, I can refer them to scholars of such. It does not mean I do not have the right aqeedah myself. So lets get that. I am not telling you not to negate as nafiyy is allowed in Islam. What I am saying is call him to correct him, thats sunnah and stop maligning his person by posting all these around. For you to say he is skipping a verse, do you know why? Are you in his heart? Have you called him to confirm he is speaking it because of that? Has he told you he is a deobandi? AbdulHakeem44: |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 3:55pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:can you now see tin line btw your manhaj and his jabata manhaj?. There is striking resemblance. He just say it as it is while you shy away from coming out of closet. He doesn't believe all other sects are Muslims, period. Likewise you don't believe all other sects are rightly guided unless and until they become salafiya. So you indirectly say all other sects are hell bound base on your own imaginary "saved sect". And what you said up there about la ilaha (negation) ila Allahu (affirmation), I don't know exactly what you tried to derived from that. Instead you had to come up with Deobandi believe that Allah is not upon His Arsh. This is a matter of tawil not necessarily aqeeda. Every muslim believe Quran exactly has it was revealed. That's how we recite on salat. But that doesn't mean there is no tawil or tafsir of Ayat. So what you raised is a matter of iktilaf on tawil. Your problem is sect name, Deobandi. You may be surprised that Deobandis and Salafis are on the same page on some issues. So there is a very tiny line of ideology btw you and Mr. Plumber (jabata's mureedi). He's just crazier. That's all. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 3:58pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
caybee007:that's it. They don't follow Sunnah. They only scream "kitab and Sunnah". They don't know what they are doing. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by caybee007(m): 4:00pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
thank you bro, some of them dont know how to deal with issues. I ask one who called Menk an innovator whether the bidiah mufti menk does is mukafirah or mufasiqoh he couldnt reply, he just ran away. i repeat when sheikh albany negate the fatawa that kuffar should have a military base in hijaz, did he call those scholars including the mufti of saudi then innovator ![]() Empiree: |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 4:42pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
caybee007:you dey mind them. They do blind following. It was the same sheikh Albany who gave them incantation. His student asked him if it is enough in this day and age to call everyone muslim base on different aqeeda?. The sheikh replied with this incantation' "Follow kitab and Sunnah upon the understanding of sahaba" This is how they coined "salafi". Once you say this incantation, you have entered "saved sect". So if other muslims say something that contradict their understanding such muslims are labeled "deviants" or "misguided". As can see, it is the same thing this brother espoused. I'm not new to this. I have been dealing with this stuff now for over 11 years. They are trained like robot to repeat themselves and to read Quran mechanically with zero intellectual and zero spiritual acumen. Ask them if other sects don't believe in the same "incantation" they shout around?. As if kitab, Sunnah and sahaba are exclusive to Salafis only?. I told him already that every muslim has area they specialize in. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 5:01pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
caybee007: Ma shaa ALLāh JazaakumuLLāh khairan akhil Kareem. I understand and grab your point perfectly. Are you saying Ustadh sarumi still practice sufiyya after his return from Sudan? 1 Like |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 5:11pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:and what's wrong with Sufism?. Do you know the meaning at all?. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by caybee007(m): 12:19pm On Nov 14, 2018 |
ustadh sarumi is from the ahlu sunnah. May Allah preserve him and us upon goodness. Allahu Mustaan AbdulHakeem44: |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Demmzy15(m): 7:25am On Nov 15, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44, Empiree is a hardcore Sufi of the Tijjaniyyah Tariqah. So I don't see the point of this back and forth argument with him, leave him alone to continue to wallow in his arrogance and ignorance. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 7:37am On Nov 15, 2018 |
Demmzy15:swear by Allah that you are sure of this?. If you swear that I am that will settle the score. O ya, please do |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:12am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:Ohh my God, if truly Mufti Menk is like this, then I am in love with him. I used to think he's one of those Muslim Sunnis always leading other Muslims astray, so far he preaches unity which is peace, and he doesn't condemn others which means he loves peace, then he's a true Muslim. A true Muslim is the one that bears the name Islam which means peace. Anyone who looks for peace in the world is a true Muslim m what does condemnation lead to if not fight, publicly insulting others base on their aqeedas is looking for fights and wars, so anyone who doesn't do that have my full support. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:16am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:I just pray you Sunnis wouldn't go and blow him up with bomb just because you don't like him or you think he's against your whatsoever believe |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:18am On Nov 16, 2018 |
If truly there's a sect that preaches unity, no public condemnation of whatsoever, even I hate publicly condemning Christians. Then am happy because am so so tired of everyone thinking Islam is War. What has condemning offer you if not hatred, wars and fights |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Nobody: 7:25am On Nov 16, 2018 |
^^^ Ignorance of the highest order... And it's a pity you might think you've said something correct, may Allaah bless us with correct and useful knowledge. 1 Like |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:32am On Nov 16, 2018 |
ModestGal: Smiles, we don't do that, that is the way of the khowarij (extremists), by the way are you shii cos it seems you are excluding yourself from sunnah. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:38am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:That's the problem with you people, Book haram are SUNNI Muslim, ISIS are SUNNI Muslim, so what the hell are you saying bro? You people are filled with so much hatred that sometimes I imagine if its only negatives that they preach to you or happens around you Save the argument for yourself bro, I have no interest. Arguments brings no good to me, so keep it for yourself |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:39am On Nov 16, 2018 |
ModestGal: Alright ma'am, you are entitled to your opinion. Your reason is exactly why mufti menk has millions of viewers today, he chose not to condemn the bad, with his statement in one of his lectures where he said "every Ustadh makes mistake, choose the good from all of them and leave the bad". This is a very soothing word to an average Muslim, but those who understands Islam perfectly knows that is a very dangerous statement. I am not saying mufti menk is a kafir like one khoriji has been disturbing himself over, he has touched lives if many in positive way, but, his no-condemn ideology is not part of Islam. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:42am On Nov 16, 2018 |
ModestGal: How are we filled with someone much hatred, can you explain PLS. When a student makes mistakes, it is incumbent upon the teacher to correct the student. if one ustadh makes mistake in the Deen, he is either corrected or refuted, I hope it's not refutation you are calling hate. don't be driven by emotions, learn the Deen. Am not arguing with you at Al or whatsoever, I had to correct your misconceptions, that's it. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:43am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:Please to all Sheikhs, Ustadhs, Alfas condemning other people, religions, believes ,how has that add a tiny bit of good to Islam? all it has added to Islam is WAR, Hatred, Bombs and all. I am not a party of that, and I won't ever be a party to that. Check all around the world everyone who is not a Muslim believe Muslim is filled with the spirit of fights and War and why wouldn't they when that is what Muslims does all around the world, they fight,kill,bomb each other on top aqeeda. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by ModestGal(f): 7:47am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:Am not referring to any particular sect, am only referring to those of you who preaches hatred and all. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 7:53am On Nov 16, 2018 |
ModestGal:tell them sister, tell them. |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:57am On Nov 16, 2018 |
ModestGal: This is why it is good one need to know the aqeeda, there is concept of Al Walaa wa bara'a (loving and hating for the sake of ALLāh). You can't love ALLAH and love HIS enemies at the same time, you can't love the religion of ALLāh and love it's haters, you can't love the religion of ALLāh and love those who seek to destroy it. That is what they preach, it is a matter of aqeeda that ur Alfa cannot deny unless you want to live in denial. So what is the hatred preached. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 8:02am On Nov 16, 2018 |
AbdulHakeem44:Like what, what and what? |
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