Ladies and Gentlemen in Naija, I'll be 100 with you...

If you are dating someone and they are trying to migrate to USA with a non-immigrant visa, and they say they are coming back for you....chances are you are better off just freeing them and remaining friends while you face your life where you are.
I bet you neither you nor them knows the challenges that will have to be faced along this road.

Not every US Visa is a migration Visa. There is schooling visa, visiting visa, etc.
And visas are very restrictive about what you can and cannot do, and if you can even be allowed to apply for any other visa.

When a person has at least a green card, that is US permanent residency, and they are on a home run to US citizenship.
A green card means a person has no serious limitation within the US besides voting (you can do that when you become a citizen).
It is also at this GreenCard level that your trans-atlantic lover can BEGIN the process of sending for you.

But the road to a green card is long and uneasy if you didn't win a US diversity lottery..
Seeing as Nigeria is one of the countries banned from the Us Visa lottery (a program whereby people gamble to win a US greencard), no Nigerian as at some years back can get a quick GreenCard through that route. They have to go the looooong route.

There are various do-able long paths to the US greencard e.g:
- Naija -> School in US -> OPT -> H1B -> Eb2/Eb3/Eb4 employment based GreenCard
- Naija -> School in US (PHD) -> Lots of exploits -> extra-ordinary person Eb1 GreenCard
- Naija -> Have $500k - $1M to "invest" in the US -> Eb5 Investor Greencard. The higher you spend the more the priority (tief tief agbada types love this one)
- Naija -> marry a US citizen or Greencard holder -> Marriage based Greencard.

_{each '->' sign can mean any where from 2-10 years!}

But all these things have been made longer and even sometimes down right unattainable by Trump.
Now, companies that had once hired people through the H1B won't even look at you unless you have an OPT, which means you have more time to "try to get" an H1B.....which you might still kuku not get.
Also, you need to basically be Elon Musk or Bill Gates before you can come in through the "Extra-ordinary person" route.
If you thought you had money before, Trump wants to raise the $$$ range for investing, so the #BigAgbada will probably have to tief more.

The insults are so bad right now that in the US, Trump is trying to fight their 13th amendment so as to prevent people who visit the US to give birth from having that child become an automatic US citizen.

Now if the UK was your target, it's even worse because Theresa May and her people are mimicking Trump's US anti-immigration agenda to the point of them going further by trying to deport black UK citizens with Caribbean origins(https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652305/caribbean-immigrants-to-u-k-threatened-with-deportation).


The only thing still left open that these rulers have been unable to touch/complicate yet is Greencard by marriage...and this is where we continue our thread from...

Your boo will mostly have to marry someone there....but it's not that simple.
This process also takes SEVERAL years before they get a greencard, trigger a messy divorce, rebuild themselves, before then being able to START sending for you.
However it is important to keep in mind that:
- Marrying someone purely for a greencard is a scam and is thus a very serious punishable offense worthy of deportation and a ban from the US.
- The safest thing, is to simply marry for real, live in the same house, etc.
- Sensible marriageable people can smell a potential marriage scam from a mile away now and don't enter marriage with guys/girls who don't have papers.
- Since the prime marriage prospects avoid you, You'd probably have to pay someone with a complicated life to do the marriage deal with...and these persons are usually crazy in some way...as they would have to be to collect money to marry someone they don't know.
- There is also the risk of the person you are married to taking advantage, asking for more money midway and/or sometimes even cancelling your greencard application...meaning it was all for naught and you'd then have to go back home anyway in failure after all the suffer.

It's a hard long risky road, one that you in Naija may be totally ignorant of.
In fact sometimes one could deduce that if the same amount of time, hussle and abuse-reception to get a greencard was spent building themselves in Naija, they probably would be farther in life themselves with more human dignity.

All that said...
The easiest thing for your boo to do is to marry a US resident FOR REAL (you don't wanna fake-marry someone you don't see yourself living forever with) and forget you so he/she can move on with their life. After marriage to a good person for a couple years, there will always come that strong urge to just BE DONE with the trans-atlantic wahala and move on with life, forgetting you in the process. Putting out the bad karma of Divorcing, then waiting to recover, and then the beginning of another battle just to send for you...is a serious long ting. You are basically baggage.

There are still some fairly easier, civilized countries to migrate to right now: e.g Australia, Canada (prepare for cold), etc. But if boo's plan is US or UK, and they didn't go as residents, just move your life along.
Don't stunt the development of your life waiting for all that. If you find a functional stable relationship where you are, go with that and free each other to face your chosen destinies untethered and without baggage.

There are many people in Naija who enjoy life to the fullest more than yankee people sef. Focus on being one of those people.

My guy dey fear make him GF no burn him Visa

Admin401:
My guy dey fear make him GF no burn him Visa

Lol then he better hide it.
Betta GF wey go move hin life forward in a real way go dey where him dey go.

Boys need to travel light when making that move. E no easy.

This advice of freeing eachother is mostly for UNMARRIED people.

If you guys are married, that is a totally different struggle altogether and both of you will probably have to make some seriously questionable compromises if you are really serious about the migration thing.

2buffagain:
This advice of freeing eachother is mostly for UNMARRIED people.

If you guys are married, that is a totally different struggle altogether and both of you will probably have to make some seriously questionable compromises if you are really serious about the migration thing. That one will be another thread.

How can a man leave his legally married wife, go abroad and spend years there hoping to settle down and bring the wife over...

Hmmmmm me I fit not do that one Ooooo... U go dey suffer for cold, ur wife dey naija dey jump on dicks with ya sweat..

Oga if I leave naija, we done for good...

JoseVanMoyes:


How can a man leave his legally married wife, go abroad and spend years there hoping to settle down and bring the wife over...

Hmmmmm me I fit not do that one Ooooo... U go dey suffer for cold, ur wife dey naija dey jump on dicks with ya sweat..

Oga if I leave naija, we done for good...

This is a perfect reason why a married person should be extremely involved in politics at home. You can always vote for new guys like Sowore Donald Duke, etc to get your country moving forward in the right direction as opposed to backwards with those same old thieving clueless failures y’all keep recycling.
But that’s another topic for another thread.

You’re right. It is even more challenging for a married couple. Seeing as I never reach that level, That is why I cannot give advice on that one. UNa wahala senior pass me

don't bring politic into serious issue

You open a nice thread like this...only to spoil with it politics

Wafritalkblogg:
don't bring politic into serious issue

morningstar55:
You open a nice thread like this...only to spoil with it politics

Like I said, that is an issue for another thread.
But it deserved a brief mention here because The dysfunctionality of the country is the only reason why a man or woman of Nigeria will go all the way to another land to suffer untold indignities just to migrate as if they don’t have a country they are coming from.

Only someone who hates hearing the truth will have any issue with what I stated there.
I already warned you from the first sentence of my opening post that this thread is not for people like you.
It’s for people who can handle truth and who likes things being kept 100.
Unless you have an actual logical counter (not emotional) to what I said, keep it moving!

so enlightening

2buffagain:
Ladies and Gentlemen in Naija, I'll be 100 with you...

If you are dating someone and they are confarm travel abroad with a visa, and they say they are coming back for you....chances are you are better off just freeing them and remaining friends while you face your life where you are.

These chances are primarily determined by what country they are going to, and what visa they are using to go there.

Not every Visa is a Visa.
And visas are very restrictive about what you can and cannot do, and if you can even be allowed to apply for any other visa.

I'll take US as an example as I happen to know a lot about that.
When a person has at least a green card, they are on a home run to US citizenship.
A green card means a person has no serious limitation within the US besides voting (you can do that when you become a citizen).
It is also at this GreenCard level that your trans-atlantic lover can BEGIN the process of sending for you.

But the road to a green card is long and uneasy if you didn't win a US diversity lottery..
Seeing as Nigeria is one of the countries banned from the Us Visa lottery (a program whereby people gamble to win a US greencard), no Nigerian as at some years back can get a quick GreenCard through that route. They have to go the looooong route.

There are various do-able long paths to the US greencard e.g:
- Naija -> School in US -> OPT -> H1B -> Eb2/Eb3/Eb4 employment based GreenCard
- Naija -> School in US (PHD) -> Lots of exploits -> extra-ordinary person Eb1 GreenCard
- Naija -> Have $500k - $1M to "invest" in the US -> Eb5 Investor Greencard. The higher you spend the more the priority (tief tief agbada types love this one)
- Naija -> marry a US citizen or Greencard holder -> Marriage based Greencard.

_{each '->' sign can mean any where from 2-10 years!}

But all these things have been made longer and even sometimes down right unattainable by Trump.
Now, companies that had once hired people through the H1B won't even look at you unless you have an OPT, which means you have more time to "try to get" an H1B.....which you might still kuku not get.
Also, you need to basically be Elon Musk or Bill Gates before you can come in through the "Extra-ordinary person" route.
If you thought you had money before, Trump wants to raise the $$$ range for investing, so the #BigAgbada will probably have to tief more.

The insults are so bad right now that in the US, Trump is trying to fight their 13th amendment so as to prevent people who visit the US and give birth will now no longer have that child become an automatic US citizen.

Now if the UK was your target, it's even worse because Theresa May and her people are mimicking Trump's US anti-immigration agenda to the point of them going further by trying to deport black UK citizens with Caribbean origins(https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652305/caribbean-immigrants-to-u-k-threatened-with-deportation).


The only thing still left open that these rulers have been unable to touch/complicate yet is Greencard by marriage...and this is where we continue our thread from...

This process also takes years before you can get your own greencard.
However it is important to keep in mind that:
- Marrying someone purely for a greencard is a scam and is thus a very serious punishable offense worthy of deportation and a ban from the US.
- The safest thing, is to simply marry for real, live in the same house, etc.
- Sensible marriageable people can smell a potential marriage scam from a mile away now and don't enter marriage with guys/girls who don't have papers.
- Since the prime marriage prospects avoid you, You'd probably have to pay someone with a complicated life to do the marriage deal with...and this person could be crazy.

There is also the risk of the person you are married to taking advantage, asking for more money midway and/or sometimes even cancelling your greencard application...meaning it was all for naught and you'd then have to go back home anyway in failure after all the suffer.

It's a hard long risky road, one that you in Naija may be totally ignorant of.
In fact sometimes one could deduce that if the same amount of time, hussle and abuse to get a greencard was spent building themselves in Naija, they probably would be farther in life themselves with more human dignity.

All that said...
The easiest thing for your boo to do is to marry a US resident FOR REAL (you don't wanna fake-marry someone you don't see yourself living forever with) and forget you so he/she can move on with their life. After marriage to a good person for a couple years, there will always come that strong urge to just BE DONE with the trans-atlantic wahala and move on with life. Divorce, recovery, and then the beginning of another battle just to send for you are seriously...is a serious long ting.


There are still some fairly easier, civilized countries to migrate to right now: e.g Australia, Canada (prepare for cold), etc. If it's US or UK, and they didn't go as residents, just move your life along.
Don't stunt the development of your life waiting for anyone. If you find something more stable where you are, go with that.

God bless you real good for taking out time on this. You could easily pass for an immigration lawyer.

Impressive work and spot on to the zeee.

I sanction and whole heartedly concur with your submission.

Nothing but the whole truth.

Those in favour say ayeee....

The ayes always have it

Post passed for how not to migrate. Other ways not to migrate is on my siggy

You are right, but at times its not always true. I've been to the US countless number of times and return before my Visa expires. I never over stayed my visa. Your lover can be that individual who goes there and does what he plans to do and depart the US as indicated on his Visa. my 10 cents is that if you are waiting for any guy to consummate a trans-Atlantic love, it must be that dope guy who loves you like kilode, such guys would surely come back for you and wont do things that would truncate their chances of bringing their family along to the US.

seunhandsome:
You are right, but at times its not always true. I've been to the US countless number of times and return before my Visa expires. I never over stayed my visa. Your lover can be that individual who goes there and does what he plans to do and depart the US as indicated on his Visa. my 10 cents is that if you are waiting for any guy to consummate a trans-Atlantic love, it must be that dope guy who loves you like kilode, such guys would surely come back for you and wont do things that would truncate their chances of bringing their family along to the US.

My bad for maybe not specifying enough but this is more for those who plan to migrate there not just visit. As in, "as I land yankee, I plan to not leave here until Green card dey hand". I'm sure a lot of Nigerians are in this yankee so who came as visitors but never left.

If it becomes clear that yankee-boo is trying to arrange themselves in yankee with mere visiting Visa...naija-boo needs to understand that that one na long ting, and should start finding his/her level where their eye dey see road...it's a huge risk for both parties.
There is a lot of happiness and wealth in Naija too. Something more REAL could just hook their attention in Naija and they be tempted to move on too.

If after yankee person gets their green or blue, and both happen to be available, then they can start a FRESH NEW multi-year wahala to get naija-boo over dia.

Anyone have any stories to share?

stories anyone?

JoseVanMoyes:


How can a man leave his legally married wife, go abroad and spend years there hoping to settle down and bring the wife over...

Hmmmmm me I fit not do that one Ooooo... U go dey suffer for cold, ur wife dey naija dey jump on dicks with ya sweat..

Oga if I leave naija, we done for good...

Need more views about this from other married folk.

Is anyone waiting for a boo in yankee right now?
Abi this should make homepage?

@lalasticlala
@sagamite

FP material

Emperorempower:
God bless trump.

Its high time we look inward.



I have a friend who went to Germany with visiting visa and planned staying(already staying), the funny part is that the parents hurriedly got him a wife and he zoomed off after the traditional marriage.


Up till now, he hasn't visited but do send money and other stuffs.

The wife is not yet pregnant for him and she feels lonely most of the time. Now the loneliness and has developed for desperation . she yarns for him.

As her husbands good friend, I do chat ad call her but now I'm scared of visiting her.

She always pops this question each time we chat , "what if *** doesn't come for me?

Well, I always avoid that question like kilode.

She is regretting ever getting married to him now and ready to walk out.

Her parents are not helping things at all.



I'm just a small boy ohhh, I do lots of mingling

That's terrible. I feel for the girl.
I find that ignorance of this information of how trully difficult this thing is, is what makes naija-based boos not ask the right questions and so determine whether or not to keep it moving.

Folks in Naija hear "he/she got a Visa" and automatically think "we shall both relocate".
I mean sure, it could mean so for the person with the visa, but not so much for you.
The visa-holder needs to go to certain countries without any baggage to actually survive the relocation.

2buffagain:


That's terrible. I feel for the girl.
I find that ignorance of this information of how trully difficult this thing is, is what makes naija-based boos not ask the right questions and so determine whether or not to keep it moving.

Folks in Naija hear "he/she got a Visa" and automatically think "we shall both relocate".
I mean sure, it could mean so for the person with the visa, but not so much for you.
The visa-holder needs to go to certain countries without any baggage to actually survive the relocation.

Most people think " his/her visa is our visa" with the notion that once in yankee, things will be green.

They forget that after relocation, then comes settling down, they will end up waiting desperately and recline to thiet fate with the famous slogan, "had I known...let me just move on..."



Its time people realise that a bird in hand is worth more than 2 in bush , life in Yankee is not very certain as many perceive

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Especially you @Kelvinbabyface1...

Your thoughts are needed.

2buffagain...nice thread! I dey come first, brb
Front page please Myndd44, Lalasticlala

Nice thread 2buffagain...for starters, I totally am without empirical data to speak authoritatively on this subject; I assume your reference is strictly towards those seeking green card and their spouse or intending couples and not in a case where either or both parties is an American citizen,yes? What I do know from the school of common Sense as your assertions have laid out is that it almost never work out out well! There is the question on the situation and strength of commitment of the relationship in tandem with other variables. Now as you asserted and as been common occurrence to those seeking green card to marry over there...why would anybody in their right mind wait on their spouse to marry someone else for green card and still come back to that same relationship...with a promise to make a better life over there and come pick you up? That would be letting your life and dreams weigh in the balance of a faulty decision. Do people still do that?

BlaqCoffee109:
Nice thread 2buffagain...for starters, I totally am without empirical data to speak authoritatively on this subject; I assume your reference is strictly towards those seeking green card and their spouse or intending couples and not in a case where either or both parties is an American citizen,yes? What I do know from the school of common Sense as your assertions have laid out is that it almost never work out out well! There is the question on the situation and strength of commitment of the relationship in tandem with other variables. Now as you asserted and as been common occurrence to those seeking green card to marry over there...why would anybody in their right mind wait on their spouse to marry someone else for green card and still come back to that same relationship...with a promise to make a better life over there and come pick you up? That would be letting your life and dreams weigh in the balance of a faulty decision. Do people still do that?

Some still do O.
I even know a guy in Atlanta who was maintaining this long azz relationship with a girl in Naija. He paid some low class akata for marriage. After the girl collected his money and waited some months, she pulled out his application and didn't tell him. She was still demanding for money everytime, only for him to say no kilode that she then told him she's been playing with him that she cancelled his application months ago.

True enough ICE is looking for the guy right now and he keeps paying this immigration lawyer to help him create a case. It's very uncertain for him right now especially in this Trump country.

This is someone who one girl in Naija has already cast all her plans on.
Had it been he spent that time making moves in Naija, he would have been far off.

2buffagain:


Some still do O.
I even know a guy here who was maintaining this long azz relationship with a girl in Naija. He paid some low class akata for marriage. After the girl collected his money and waited some months, she pulled out his application and didn't tell him. She was still demanding for money everytime, only for him to say no kilode that she then told him she's been playing with him that she cancelled his application months ago.

True enough ICE is looking for the guy right now and he keeps passing this immigration lawyer to help him create a case. It's very uncertain for him right now.
This is someone who one girl in Naija has already cast all her plans on.

Kai, sorry for the guy...na wa oh! Wetin be akata again... shioor! no be guy man levels. Na laugh I dey always laugh when I see some 9j boys with these people all because of green card....if you see Dem sef ehn, their shoulder go raise like who wear shoulder pads as if say Dem do better marry oyibo instead of us melanin popping... schwepps... annoying thing be say im be like say Dem swear for Dem to go after the fugly ones(GOD forgive me) because they make for easy prey...@ the bolded nah wah for you oh...nah Oluchi for village dey expect in the abroad man na...Amaka go surely disappoint am ...no time

2buffagain:
Ladies and Gentlemen in Naija, I'll be 100 with you...

If you are dating someone and they are confirmed trying to migrate to USA with a non-immigrant visa, and they say they are coming back for you....chances are you are better off just freeing them and remaining friends while you face your life where you are.
I bet you neither you nor them knows the challenges that will have to be faced along this road.

Not every US Visa is a migration Visa. There is schooling visa, visiting visa, etc.
And visas are very restrictive about what you can and cannot do, and if you can even be allowed to apply for any other visa.

When a person has at least a green card, that is US permanent residency, and they are on a home run to US citizenship.
A green card means a person has no serious limitation within the US besides voting (you can do that when you become a citizen).
It is also at this GreenCard level that your trans-atlantic lover can BEGIN the process of sending for you.

But the road to a green card is long and uneasy if you didn't win a US diversity lottery..
Seeing as Nigeria is one of the countries banned from the Us Visa lottery (a program whereby people gamble to win a US greencard), no Nigerian as at some years back can get a quick GreenCard through that route. They have to go the looooong route.

There are various do-able long paths to the US greencard e.g:
- Naija -> School in US -> OPT -> H1B -> Eb2/Eb3/Eb4 employment based GreenCard
- Naija -> School in US (PHD) -> Lots of exploits -> extra-ordinary person Eb1 GreenCard
- Naija -> Have $500k - $1M to "invest" in the US -> Eb5 Investor Greencard. The higher you spend the more the priority (tief tief agbada types love this one)
- Naija -> marry a US citizen or Greencard holder -> Marriage based Greencard.

_{each '->' sign can mean any where from 2-10 years!}

But all these things have been made longer and even sometimes down right unattainable by Trump.
Now, companies that had once hired people through the H1B won't even look at you unless you have an OPT, which means you have more time to "try to get" an H1B.....which you might still kuku not get.
Also, you need to basically be Elon Musk or Bill Gates before you can come in through the "Extra-ordinary person" route.
If you thought you had money before, Trump wants to raise the $$$ range for investing, so the #BigAgbada will probably have to tief more.

The insults are so bad right now that in the US, Trump is trying to fight their 13th amendment so as to prevent people who visit the US to give birth from having that child become an automatic US citizen.

Now if the UK was your target, it's even worse because Theresa May and her people are mimicking Trump's US anti-immigration agenda to the point of them going further by trying to deport black UK citizens with Caribbean origins(https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652305/caribbean-immigrants-to-u-k-threatened-with-deportation).


The only thing still left open that these rulers have been unable to touch/complicate yet is Greencard by marriage...and this is where we continue our thread from...

Your boo will mostly have to marry someone there....but it's not that simple.
This process also takes SEVERAL years before they get a greencard, trigger a messy divorce, rebuild themselves, before then being able to START sending for you.
However it is important to keep in mind that:
- Marrying someone purely for a greencard is a scam and is thus a very serious punishable offense worthy of deportation and a ban from the US.
- The safest thing, is to simply marry for real, live in the same house, etc.
- Sensible marriageable people can smell a potential marriage scam from a mile away now and don't enter marriage with guys/girls who don't have papers.
- Since the prime marriage prospects avoid you, You'd probably have to pay someone with a complicated life to do the marriage deal with...and these persons are usually crazy in some way...as they would have to be to collect money to marry someone they don't know.
- There is also the risk of the person you are married to taking advantage, asking for more money midway and/or sometimes even cancelling your greencard application...meaning it was all for naught and you'd then have to go back home anyway in failure after all the suffer.

It's a hard long risky road, one that you in Naija may be totally ignorant of.
In fact sometimes one could deduce that if the same amount of time, hussle and abuse-reception to get a greencard was spent building themselves in Naija, they probably would be farther in life themselves with more human dignity.

All that said...
The easiest thing for your boo to do is to marry a US resident FOR REAL (you don't wanna fake-marry someone you don't see yourself living forever with) and forget you so he/she can move on with their life. After marriage to a good person for a couple years, there will always come that strong urge to just BE DONE with the trans-atlantic wahala and move on with life, forgetting you in the process. Putting out the bad karma of Divorcing, then waiting to recover, and then the beginning of another battle just to send for you...is a serious long ting. You are basically baggage.

There are still some fairly easier, civilized countries to migrate to right now: e.g Australia, Canada (prepare for cold), etc. But if boo's plan is US or UK, and they didn't go as residents, just move your life along.
Don't stunt the development of your life waiting for all that. If you find a functional stable relationship where you are, go with that and free each other to face your chosen destinies untethered and without baggage.

There are many people in Naija who enjoy life to the fullest more than yankee people sef. Focus on being one of those people.

Could you enlighten me more on migration to Australia? I'll be very grateful.

PurplePatch:



Could you enlighten me more on migration to Australia? I'll be very grateful.

No idea. I am not familiar with that process.

BlaqCoffee109:
Kai, sorry for the guy...na wa oh! Wetin be akata again... shioor! no be guy man levels. Na laugh I dey always laugh when I see some 9j boys with these people all because of green card....if you see Dem sef ehn, their shoulder go raise like who wear shoulder pads as if say Dem do better marry oyibo instead of us melanin popping... schwepps... annoying thing be say im be like say Dem swear for Dem to go after the fugly ones(GOD forgive me) because they make for easy prey...@ the bolded nah wah for you oh...nah Oluchi for village dey expect in the abroad man na...Amaka go surely disappoint am ...no time

LOL akata na black americans. There are some good ones, but a lot of them are useless rachet individuals.
Most akata women like getting hitched up with naija guys though because Naija men at least know how to take care of things.
Their akata men generally could care less.