We need not to look at what our African Counterparts are doing.We might be in the same continent but we are at different worlds altogether.No one knows the pain of sitting at the equator being 70% arid and semi arid habouring Somalia to the East,Oromo rebels infested Ethiopia to the North and war torn South Sudan to the North West.We would have been better than where we are with strong neighbors.But leaving that aside,we are the drivers of our own destiny.Its nice seeing that our development partners are still confident in us,we just need critical internal reforms,the realization of the big four and a brilliant president coming 2022 then we are good!

rvp2018:
The projections are in Draft 2018 Budget Review and Outlook paper - pg 41 - there is a table there.

http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/198-2018-2019/1279-draft-2018-budget-review-outlook-paper.html

rvp2018:
Yeap I like you honesty. Folks should see these debates more as "peer review" not online war btw countries. South Africa has to deal with those issues #1) provide quality education/healthcare/welfare to poor black rural/township/slums and 2#) deal with immigrants. I think sorting Zimbwabwe will eliminate about half of those immigrants - and while that is yet to happen - South Africa police simply has to deport illegal immigrants - there is no other way around that - just have a budget to hunt down and deport all illegal immigrants.

Actually the south african government doesn't only provide those services to poor Africans, all races in south Africa are included in the system , this ofcourse is not widely publicised because it would be embarrassing for the demi gods who had a 400 year headstart to be languishing in poverty like the rest of us, it is difficult for them to explain.

What you are proposing is what has been happening since the mid 90s. Illegal immigrants get deported every month , but they keep on coming on 90 day visits or 3 month visa visits. I don't know who lied to some nations that you can kick gold on every street in Johannesburg, because it seems like that's what they are told. Right now we are resorting to drastic measures , locking them up in camps for months , because we can't keep on losing money that is meant for our people in deporting people who refuse to fix their own backyards. Zimbabwe is truly our biggest burden with all these fake refugees from west Africa and south Asia. I'm happy though that parliament is reviewing our immigration laws , hopefully they will be stricter to the people who have no business being here .

Realistic projections.There is something nice about being truthful.No need to cook data and lie to investors only for them to come in and put up shops and realize that they are no buyers of their goods into your market! You know who I'm referring to

rvp2018:
The projections are in Draft 2018 Budget Review and Outlook paper - pg 41 - there is a table there.

http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/198-2018-2019/1279-draft-2018-budget-review-outlook-paper.html

ednited:


You are right, I don't know how I read it the first time. . .

Am always right Ednited! You should know that.

ednited:



I fear China. What is the destination of Africa? It just bugs me how we have changed. Ancient Ethiopian Architecture was speechless. We don't know when we have lost it. For example, Lalibela churches were built by Ethiopians themselves but still it is a miracle how it was constructed. No one knows how they acheived that.
when you come and see the construction made by Ethiopians today in Ethiopia, you won't beleive the same nation who did that did this. Even interesting architecture existed in West Africa, Mali.

I don't know when we lost it all. If we all had moved the same pace we were moving as in the past, we wouldn't have been here today.



How correct and leading is our curriculum? How literate is our system making us? Africa is ruined all way. . . .What you think is the next generation like? How sure are we to tell things are going to get better?

The Ethiopia of today is not the Ethiopia of yore. You have completely lost your pride and everything that defined Ethiopia. Ethiopians are among the Africans dying in the seas (the only ones from Eastern Africa alongside Somalis and Eritreans), arrested in Kenya heading to SA and other better off countries every day. If you look at your situation, you are as bad as the worst in Africa in all ways. You must do something and I hope Abiy is the answer.

That is great - poor people deserve some help from gov - at least on basic needs (food, healthcare,housing & education). South Africa is definitely better than most of Africa countries and you cannot fault the Nigerians from trying to escape to semblance of a functioning country. Kenya is finding itself having to spend a lot of money deporting Nigerians - I think imprisoning some of these immigrants for six months - so they can work for their air ticket back home would lessen the burden. Anyway If Zim fix their issues...that burden will become manageable.

Now I think just like our ethnic politics is an albatross - how you'll seize land & mines from whites represent your biggest challenge - Zim mismanaged and they went down.

Lionessza6:

Actually the south african government doesn't only provide those services to poor Africans, all races in south Africa are included in the system , this ofcourse is not widely publicised because it would be embarrassing for the demi gods who had a 400 year headstart to be languishing in poverty like the rest of us, it is difficult for them to explain.

What you are proposing is what has been happening since the mid 90s. Illegal immigrants get deported every month , but they keep on coming on 90 day visits or 3 month visa visits. I don't know who lied to some nations that you can kick gold on every street in Johannesburg, because it seems like that's what they are told. Right now we are resorting to drastic measures , locking them up in camps for months , because we can't keep on losing money that is meant for our people in deporting people who refuse to fix their own backyards. Zimbabwe is truly our biggest burden with all these fake refugees from west Africa and south Asia. I'm happy though that parliament is reviewing our immigration laws , hopefully they will be stricter to the people who have no business being here .

Kazikazi:
We tried so much to be polite and nice to them but it never worked. They ended disgracing us in all international media.We were patience,but they misunderstood our patience for foolishness.We allowed them to bring their tourists in Tanzania since we have more tourist attractions than them,but they went ahead and claim mount Kilimanjaro is theirs.
Check their print media,go to quora,have a look at you tube its the same,they don't talk anything good about us.
We are tired.We want to expose them.Let all Africans see them as they are...selfish,greedy,proud,liers,hungry,corrupt,poor and tribalists.
The time of sugarcoating them is gone.Its difficult..almost impossible to have a good or meaningful relationships with a proud Kenyan.

We dont write international media articles. They have their own editors who are NOT from Kenya. You fear our influence so much that you see our hand in everything. We are not God!

forgiveness:



Don't be fooled by these lying Kenyans here because we still do better than them in tourism.

Check out the world tourism ranking, you will see we trashed them in both categories of most visited destination by INTERNATIONAL tourist arrivals in Africa and international tourism receipt (revenue from tourism) in Africa.

Don't believe these lying Kenyans here.

Kenya is not in the top 10 most visited destination by international tourist.

They managed to make the top ten of money made through tourism but we still beat dem wella.

but egypt is africa too....
this western medias sef....

ednited:



You are right, many African nations don't even want to be conscious. They only care for useless things.

When it comes to China, here is how it goes down. . . China keeps helping Africa for the loan, we keep borrowing with out limits. Because they are helping us with the money, we are required to feed their population giving them the job opportunity. If we go against them and prefer to give chance for our nations for the mega projects, they will warn us to give back the money we have borrowed (them knowing we will never acheive that). Then if we are un able to give back the money, what do we know? Our country may be sold. I don't know how true it is but I heard it from a trusted source. Today, the bid Ethiopia has exceeded that when calculated, every Ethiopian is required to pay 3000ETB or 100 USD to finish paying. Imagine! It is all interlocked, we can't run away from China. Once we got in this mess, it gets worse and worse. Why do you think we aren't colonized as ancient slaves? It is because we all are falling on the whites plan and this time it is worse. They are eating all the money, and we aren't fighting them. We are even calling them our saviour because they throw us bag of food we made ourself indirectly. Ayyyy, Africa is a mess.


About our new leader and new cabinet, I am very happy. Leaders who truly know about their country and prioritize country issue before individual need are hard to find in Africa. I hope we have him here. Our women which are appointed are found well too. More than anything, I feel really lucky to see justice in here. Highly corrupt officials are being handed, and so many good things are being seen. But still, we need to pray. There are many things to clear up here. And thanks!


Where have you been though? Been long meeting you. . .

it is also happening in kenya the sgr thing chinese are building it using they manpower importing cement from china to build kenyan sgr as if kenya has no cement chinese are still driving the trains and more recently when kenya stopped importation of fish from china because it was hurting our fish industry china threatened to stop sgr funding to kisumu i think there is alot of trade inbalance btwn africa and china

rvp2018:
Yeap I like you honesty. Folks should see these debates more as "peer review" not online war btw countries. South Africa has to deal with those issues #1) provide quality education/healthcare/welfare to poor black rural/township/slums and 2#) deal with immigrants. I think sorting Zimbwabwe will eliminate about half of those immigrants - and while that is yet to happen - South Africa police simply has to deport illegal immigrants - there is no other way around that - just have a budget to hunt down and deport all illegal immigrants.

fool, so u support the deportation of other Africans and you allowed Indians, Brits and Italians to be citizens .? , how stupid could that be, why don't you deport these guys(Indians,Brits and Italians) and see if your country won't be worst than "Zimbabwe".
I will keep saying this, Kenyans have been mentally defeated and it's only devin redemption and intervention that can help out.

Slaveryisgood:


We don't need starving animals like Zulus and masai . Up naija

Bhuhahahaha! Starving kwashiorkor animals!? Bhuhahahaha! You funny die.

By the time we privatise three of our Parks, we will generate more revenue from tourism. These are the three parks and their features

1. Cross River national park contains 77 endemic plants, grills, Gorillas, 600 butterflies, African Elephant, Chimpanzees, 42 species of snakes, grey necked rock fowls, Preuss's red colobus, Sclater's guenon, 350 birds species, mountains, beautiful waterfalls etc,

2. Gashaka Gumti national park contains lions, leopards, the Red-headed lovebird, 1m birds, Metarungia pubinervia, the highest mountain in West Africa Chappal Waddi standing at 2,419 meters, lakes, lush green grass land, waterfalls, Buffaloes, Nigeria Chimpanzees, yellow-backed duiker, African golden cat, African buffalo, the largest population of chimpanzees in Nigeria which is over 1700 chimpanzees in the park, African elephant, klipspringer, West African wild dog, hartebeest, the world’s largest antelope, the giant eland, Roan antelope, Kob antelope, oribi, Black-and-white colobus monkey, baboon, warthog, the rare mountain reedbuck. Its largest unspoilt rivers contain hippos, crocodiles, otters, a wide variety of fishes etc.

3.The Kanji lake national Park houses a lot of wildlife like: elephants, lions, buffaloes, antelope, hunting dogs, hippos, patas, monkeys, pythons, Nile crocodiles, leopard, hyena, kob, cobra, green snake, bush buck, tilapia, mountain reedbuck, red flanked duiker, oribi, grimms duiker, warthog, mongoose, stone partridge, snake head, hadada ibis, Bee eaters, electric cat fish clawless otters, hartebeest, turtles, manatees, roan goanna, baboons, antelopes, kobs, ape, Ducker, crocodile etc 180 species of birds have been recorded to be housed by the park. And they include secretary bird, ground hornbill, jugglers, oriole warbler, great white pelicans and other rare pale arctic migrants.


These are more beautiful than those dry flat barren ugly parks in Kenya.

sufferNsmiling:


In 2016 nigeria was owing china more than 68 billion us dollar today I can bet you that amount is 70 billion. Look at yourself before you look at another country. Lagos income generation to the debt 900 percent

The whole Africa is in a mess, because of the decision of our government has made. It is embarrassing! Our government keep borrowing money with out permission or willingness of the people, but even 100% of the money isn't given to us but to their stomach. Then we or the next generation is obliged to pay for that. All we inherit here is a bid but nothing else.

I think now that Ethiopia, Somali and South Sudan are sorting their issues - we should really think about integrating our economies towards the north. Tanzania hostility and petty jealousy is making trading with them impossible. We can easily do more trade with Somalis using their diaspora and ethnic somalis as the bridge. That basically mean we need to build roads to Somali, Sudan and Ethiopia - and try spur development in the northern of Kenya. Improved security & infrastructure will unlock that "Semi-Arid & Arid" waste land - I believe there is massive wealth lying underneath that North - that can only be explored when we tamed it.We really need to focus north - and prioritize LAPSET - it may seem like waste of money with doubtful ROI - but I think we are already on the marginal gains on the Mombasa-Nairobi-Malaba corridor. Opening up LAMU - GARISSA-ISIOLO-LODWAR - with branch to THIKA,MOYALE& MANDERA - should be the priority - after we are done with dual road from Mombasa to Malaba, SGR to Kisumu/Malaba - and with branch to Nakuru & Eldoret. Nairobi also need Mass transit - Light Train like yesterday. All these are pretty achievable in the medium term.

Jonraid:
We need not to look at what our African Counterparts are doing.We might be in the same continent but we are at different worlds altogether.No one knows the pain of sitting at the equator being 70% arid and semi arid habouring Somalia to the East,Oromo rebels infested Ethiopia to the North and war torn South Sudan to the North West.We would have been better than where we are with strong neighbors.But leaving that aside,we are the drivers of our own destiny.Its nice seeing that our development partners are still confident in us,we just need critical internal reforms,the realization of the big four and a brilliant president coming 2022 then we are good!

TayserMahiri:

Am always right Ednited! You should know that.

Nice joke, lol

Kenyanstar:

But of course China is leading in almost everything... The hub of manufacturing is currently in the world is China, biggest number of skilled labour in the world, technological center, booming economy and possibly the biggest economy in the world by 2020. Population if used right can be an advantage. Imagine if the Nigerian government focused on skill based technical institutes and encouraged accomodative environment to manufacturing investors. It would provide employment to millions and inject billions into the system.

How many Chinese are in the top 20 richest in the world?


You don't know anything about Nigeria skills labour. All I know is, Nigeria is still far ahead of Kenya in that regard.

bantudra:


but egypt is africa too....
this western medias sef....

Well, they claim both Africa and middle East.

We also allow Nigerian to be citizen.There is a path to citizenship. The easiest is arriving at JKIA in the morning & talk to any kenyan girl, booking a marriage in the afternoon, and after 3 weeks get married - and you're a kenyan.

Kenya Indians are a tribe. Deal with it. They've been here for 100yrs. Kenya whites are kenyan. Kenyan Italians are kenyans. Deal with it. We even elect them as our leaders.

Illegal immigrants those we don't want. We want reciprocate treatment - if we allow Nigeria to come here and live freely - allows us in Nigeria to come and live freely.But we want Africa that allows free movement of labour and trade...and until that happen - illegal is illegal.

Let Nigeria sign the Africa Free Trade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only Kenya, Ghana, South Africa and Rwanda have done this.

68816419:

fool, so u support the deportation of other Africans and you allowed Indians, Brits and Italians to be citizens .? , how stupid could that be, why don't you deport these guys(Indians,Brits and Italians) and see if your country won't be worst than "Zimbabwe".
I will keep saying this, Kenyans have been mentally defeated and it's only devin redemption and intervention that can help out.

TayserMahiri:


The Ethiopia of today is not the Ethiopia of yore. You have completely lost your pride and everything that defined Ethiopia. Ethiopians are among the Africans dying in the seas (the only ones from Eastern Africa alongside Somalis and Eritreans), arrested in Kenya heading to SA and other better off countries every day. If you look at your situation, you are as bad as the worst in Africa in all ways. You must do something and I hope Abiy is the answer.

who n would u Kenyans stop been delusional?, your guys are constantly deported from war torn somalia and south Sudan.

Kenyans Brave Dangerous Journeys in Hopes of Slipping into Europe

https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/kenyans-brave-dangerous-journeys-hopes-slipping-europe

TayserMahiri:


The Ethiopia of today is not the Ethiopia of yore. You have completely lost your pride and everything that defined Ethiopia. Ethiopians are among the Africans dying in the seas (the only ones from Eastern Africa alongside Somalis and Eritreans), arrested in Kenya heading to SA and other better off countries every day. If you look at your situation, you are as bad as the worst in Africa in all ways. You must do something and I hope Abiy is the answer.

Today Ethiopia isn't ancient Ethiopia. But I know one thing, and it is that I won't fall for the new Ethiopia. I will keep chasing the knowledge of my ancestors and their strength. I will educate my self my own way by digging the secret of ancient Ethiopia success. And I will always keep trying to motivate and change people around me. The presence of Abiy has somehow let Ethiopians see what type of country they are in.

TayserMahiri:


The Ethiopia of today is not the Ethiopia of yore. You have completely lost your pride and everything that defined Ethiopia. Ethiopians are among the Africans dying in the seas (the only ones from Eastern Africa alongside Somalis and Eritreans), arrested in Kenya heading to SA and other better off countries every day. If you look at your situation, you are as bad as the worst in Africa in all ways. You must do something and I hope Abiy is the answer.

y do u guys like making fools of your selves?
who gets deported from war zone somalia and south Sudan if not Kenyans?

Kenyans Brave Dangerous Journeys in Hopes of Slipping into Europe

https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/kenyans-brave-dangerous-journeys-hopes-slipping-europe

tlann:
anyway it is not my fault kenya is better than many african countries iam just saying the truth and many people hate the truth so they prefer lies

YEAH!

We cannot be apologetic for being the conspicuous over achievers in the arena. After all we dont start these lame battles. They start them. Some of these spectating African countries are now gunning for battle with Kenyans. Soon an idiot from yet another country will create another battle comparing their country with Kenya. Leaves you wondering what exactly is their problem. What kind of people do they think we are?

Winston Churchill once summarized such behavior in a speech:

They have misjudged us. It is difficult to reconcile [their] actions with prudence or even with sanity.

What kind of a people do they think we are?

Is it possible they do not realize that we shall never cease to persevere against them until they have been taught a lesson which they and the world will never forget?

We may be tiny, like Britain, but we can outpunch each and every one of these Africans in their own schemes of aggression.

What kind of people do they think we are?

Lionessza6:


Mineral dependant economies you say ? I'm guessing if we didn't have minerals your economy would be better than us ?.



ECONOMIC IMPACT

Basic statistics

Although once dominant, mining and quarrying now account for only 8% of South African gross domestic product (GDP). Since the middle of the last century the relative contributions of agriculture and manufacturing have also shrunk, while those of other sectors have grown. Finance at 20% is now the biggest sector, followed by government at 17%.

Mining accounts for 11% of gross fixed capital formation, but also for 16% of all foreign direct investment in South Africa. The industry accounts for only 0.3% of corporate taxpayers, but they were responsible for 6% of tax assessed in 2014. Although mining employs almost half a million people, this is only 5% of the country's workforce.

http://fse.org.za/index.php/item/593-the-impact-of-mining-on-the-south-african-economy-and-living-standards


South African GDP- 8%=? . Now compare the answer to your own GDP , I said when you attempt to throw shades or sissy jabs check yourself.

You cannot downplay the catapulting effect your minerals had on your economy initially. Your gold alone let alone all the others. Im pretty sure its only lately (and by this I mean a few decades) your economy has properly diversified. Back then the draw to SA was your Gold. We should have started on an equal footing (i.e with no minerals) and by now you would have realized why we tend to be the loners in this league of big boys as the only major non-mineral economy. Its not a joke.

The IGAD countries might be a good bet.If only those countries get their act together and enjoy some relative peace then we will have opened up new opportunities for our people.Look at how Kenyan investment made a killing in South Sudan ! We really need to open up the North like you've said.More growth in the Southern part than the North isn't desirable.The location of Nairobi might have been a factor,there is more in the Southern periphery than the North.There was a talk of Isiolo being the new capital city back then,what's your thoughts in this?

rvp2018:
I think now that Ethiopia, Somali and South Sudan are sorting their issues - we should really think about integrating our economies towards the north. Tanzania hostility and petty jealousy is making trading with them impossible. We can easily do more trade with Somalis using their diaspora and ethnic somalis as the bridge. That basically mean we need to build roads to Somali, Sudan and Ethiopia - and try spur development in the northern of Kenya. Improved security & infrastructure will unlock that "Semi-Arid & Arid" waste land - I believe there is massive wealth lying underneath that North - that can only be explored when we tamed it.We really need to focus north - and prioritize LAPSET - it may seem like waste of money with doubtful ROI - but I think we are already on the marginal gains on the Mombasa-Nairobi-Malaba corridor. Opening up LAMU - GARISSA-ISIOLO-LODWAR - with branch to THIKA,MOYALE& MANDERA - should be the priority - after we are done with dual road from Mombasa to Malaba, SGR to Kisumu/Malaba - and with branch to Nakuru & Eldoret. Nairobi also need Mass transit - Light Train like yesterday. All these are pretty achievable in the medium term.

68816419:

fool, so u support the deportation of other Africans and you allowed Indians, Brits and Italians to be citizens .? , how stupid could that be, why don't you deport these guys(Indians,Brits and Italians) and see if your country won't be worst than "Zimbabwe".
I will keep saying this, Kenyans have been mentally defeated and it's only devin redemption and intervention that can help out.

Get proper documents, have a legitimate goal, come start a business and no one will ever deport you. Its that simple. Your criminal backsides will be deported every time they sneak in. Talk to legitimate Nigerians in Kenya on how to live here legally with no issues. We are not a charity organization.

TayserMahiri:


YEAH!

We cannot be apologetic for being the conspicuous over achievers in the arena. After all we dont start these lame battles. They start them. Some of these spectating African countries are now gunning for battle with Kenyans. Soon an idiot from yet another country will create another battle comparing their country with Kenya. Leaves you wondering what exactly is their problem. What kind of people do they think we are?

Winston Churchill once summarized such behavior in a speech:



We may be tiny, like Britain, but we can outpunch each and every of these Africans in their own schemes of aggression.

What kind of people do they think we are?

well said kenya is there because of hardwork of its is citizens i didnt say we are the best but we are among the best in africa if we compare what are the most important aspects of human development like education healthcare infrastructure financial institutions we beat alot of african countries in that and that is what some people in this forum dont want to hear iam not boasting anyway iam just saying the truth

68816419:



who n would u Kenyans stop been delusional?, your guys are constantly deported from war torn somalia and south Sudan.

Kenyans Brave Dangerous Journeys in Hopes of Slipping into Europe

https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/kenyans-brave-dangerous-journeys-hopes-slipping-europe

Talk to me when you see Kenyans in a rickety boat. You are comparing apples to oranges.

68816419:

fool, so u support the deportation of other Africans and you allowed Indians, Brits and Italians to be citizens .? , how stupid could that be, why don't you deport these guys(Indians,Brits and Italians) and see if your country won't be worst than "Zimbabwe".
I will keep saying this, Kenyans have been mentally defeated and it's only devin redemption and intervention that can help out.

like my kenyan pal has said go get the right documents and make sure you renew them before they expire or get married to kenyan no one will disturb you peace you will do you business without worries but illegal immigrants selling drugs and internet scams that is illegal and must be deported i think also nigeria deports funny characters in their country and indian is a kenyan tribe and those whites are also kenyan and those italians at the coast

I agree with everything except moving the capital to Isiolo. Nairobi has got economies of scale/consolidation going for it - starting a new Nairobi is not easy. I think Isiolo should carve it's niche as center of kenya, the entry to the north and a resort city. Generally speaking all the 47 county capitals should aspire to become cities by 2050. Nairobi is well on it's way to being one of most important metropolis in the world - now easily competing with Joburg, Cairo and Lagos for center of Africa - and it appears Nairobi will probably win the center of Africa battle. We need to invest HUGELY in Nairobi. It's the our biggest asset now. It we deal with traffic jams & eliminate those slums - by providing social housing - Nairobi is well on it's way to being the London of Africa.

Jonraid:
The IGAD countries might be a good bet.If only those countries get their act together and enjoy some relative peace then we will have opened up new opportunities for our people.Look at how Kenyan investment made a killing in South Sudan ! We really need to open up the North like you've said.More growth in the Southern part than the North isn't desirable.The location of Nairobi might have been a factor,there is more in the Southern periphery than the North.There was a talk of Isiolo being the new capital city back then,what's your thoughts in this?

Minerals surely gave them that impetus.Dubai is more diversified now but you can't brush off the oil effect int its economy.The multiplier effect phenomena is where the diversification emanates from.But as they say,you only work with what you have.They sold their gold and we sold our tea! Props for us however for showing up in most indices with the non agrarian economies and still we were ballsy enough to give some of them a run for their own money!

TayserMahiri:


You cannot downplay the catapulting effect your minerals had on your economy initially. Your gold alone let alone all the others. Im pretty sure its only lately (and by this I mean a few decades) your economy has properly diversified. Back then the draw to SA was your Gold. We should have started on an equal footing (i.e with no minerals) and by now you would have realized why we tend to be the loners in this league of big boys as the only major non-mineral economy. Its not a joke.

Yes the problem is normally illegal immigrant doing illegal things. That just compound the problem. If they were being useful to the economy, their communities and were generally good citizen nobody will really care.

tlann:
like my kenyan pal has said go get the right documents and make sure you renew them before they expire or get married to kenyan no one will disturb you peace you will do you business without worries but illegal immigrants selling drugs and internet scams that is illegal and must be deported i think also nigeria deports funny characters in their country and indian is a kenyan tribe and those whites are also kenyan and those italians at the coast

tlann:
well said kenya is there because of hardwork of its is citizens i didnt say we are the best but we are among the best in africa if we compare what are the most important aspects of human development like education healthcare infrastructure financial institutions we beat alot of african countries in that and that is what some people in this forum dont want to hear iam not boasting anyway iam just saying the truth

Its the truth. Let em go suck a pickle!

I just wanted your opinion on it.I think we need more bigger counties,with sort of a City/town that should serve them as headquatres. The 47 counties should be reduced IMO! Some counties have been shown not to posses economies of scale due to their low population,less land area and among many other factors.We need this bigger counties to act like 'mini-countries' and that means having the ability to run for themselves more efficiently than the case now!

rvp2018:
I agree with everything except moving the capital to Isiolo. Nairobi has got economies of scale/consolidation going for it - starting a new Nairobi is not easy. I think Isiolo should carve it's niche as center of kenya, the entry to the north and a resort city. Generally speaking all the 47 county capitals should aspire to become cities by 2050.