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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:00pm On Nov 18, 2018
Why can’t many of us see this as a big problem going foreard?

TheSuperNerd:
Five takeaways from Nigeria's Nations Cup draw in South Africa
By Colin Udoh, Special to ESPN

NIGERIA PRESSING IS A CONTINUED PROBLEM

It has always been evident, but with the Nations Cup approaching, Rohr might need to spend more time working on his team's pressing.
It is a recurrent problem, but one which does not appear to be seeing any progress. Not even the introduction of the big John Ogu helped matters.
The players press haphazardly, no coordination, no teamwork. As a result, they get bypassed with a single ball, or a skingle move.
No time was it more evident than when Tau walked his way in behind a flat line to set up Mothiba for the goal.


Source: KweseESPN

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:04pm On Nov 18, 2018
Joebie:
Where is that moniker who said they were offsides? grin


bro, SOMEHOW don repent oooo,
e say make we forgive am grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 5:14pm On Nov 18, 2018
After rewatching clearly, i came here to change my view. you no see am oga Joe?
Joebie:
Where is that moniker who said they were offsides? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 5:17pm On Nov 18, 2018
The Assistant refs must have deliberately picked both as offside, didn't even watch the second half and was too distracted in the first half to see the first goal which was counted as off clearly. rewatching both goals actually got me angry.

SA did it against Senegal, now Nigeria, yet CAF is allowing such a mess to continue. BAN BOTH assistant ref for 5 years each and give the CR 1 year ban!
charlesemeka85:
The head of the officiating team of yesterday’s AFCON 2019 Qualifiers between South Africa and Nigeria Bakary Papa Gassama has apologised to the Nigerian team after wrongly denying them two goals due to wrong offside calls.


Ahmed Musa put through Kelechi Iheanacho who tapped home believing he has given Nigeria the lead but Musa who supplied the pass was judged by the assistant referee as been in an offside position, something which turned out to be wrong after video replays.

In the second half with less than five minutes to go, Musa was once again at the receiving end of another poor referee decision as he was once again flagged offside incorrectly after slotting home what could have given Nigeria all three points.

The game ended 1-1 with Nigeria sealing her passage to next year Africa Cup of Nations but officials of the Nigeria Football Federation ( NFF) still expressed their unhappiness to Gassama over the poor decision which cost Nigeria a win.

Gassama admitted the error and even went a step further by sending his apologies to Musa over the incident although he admitted that such errors are sometimes unavoidable particularly due to the non-availability of the Video Assistant Referee (VAR)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 5:17pm On Nov 18, 2018
Is our falcons still super?
Oparanozie did a Yakubu!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:19pm On Nov 18, 2018
So Dalung has not released NFF allocation this year. This might be partly the reason for the money issues.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:21pm On Nov 18, 2018
Dalung

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:22pm On Nov 18, 2018
More.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:25pm On Nov 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Just like how Siasia needed just a 2-1 win to qualify. We were already leading 2-1 but he kept on pushing forward to get a 3rd so as to secure a comprehensive win while toping the group and Bam! Guinea hit us on the counter and eqaulized and we crashed out.

Rohr is conservative yes but he has continued to achieve results. He is a very cautious coach.

If it is left to some of u here we will be parading different 11 players for each game. Imagine people proposing Success, Chukwueze and Onyekuru on starting line up for a game of this magnitude.

I was only disappointed in the officiating otherwise the boys got the job done.

I wonder if u people would have been saying these things u are saying if that Musa's goal had stood.



Chief, I am sure people still complained after that match against Libya, unlike some people here I pointed it out a long time ago. Let me ask you something, apart from that 4-0 win against Cameroon, which other game(under Rohr) have we been comprehensively better than the opposition? Most people have been looking for an opportunity like this( a game we failed to win) to come out and voice their disapproval but I already did that long ago. The goals we score are not even in anyway as a result of good tactical play or anything, I mean Kalu just raced to the byline and pulled a cross back and bam. Me sha no want talk too much, but even if Musa had scored, it wouldn't turn that match into anything special.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:29pm On Nov 18, 2018
Iheanacho and Success

Under 17 and today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 5:31pm On Nov 18, 2018
I can't see falcons going far with this lack luster display maybe cuz this is their first match, I hope they improve with every match
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:46pm On Nov 18, 2018
Chukwuemeka007:
I never thought that this game will make me come out of my ghost mode after nearly two years of ardent followership.

First of, I think the stern attacks on Rohr's person, intellect and coaching tactics is way out of proportion though I'm not absolving him of any wrongdoings.

We played a team who had their backs against the wall (a loss would put them on a bad position) in front of their home crowd. It's expected they do the initial gra-gra stuff.

If not for poor officiating, we were 3-1 winners. We also tend to forget the altitude issues over there resulting to a thin layer of oxygen. "overdoing" yourself will lead to early gassing out. I think it was Ecuador that thrashed Argentina 6 nil in a world cup qualifier played in Quito (a place of high altitude and low atmospheric pressure. A few Argentine players even fainted on that day)

We have taken to commonizing qualifying for the AFCON because Rohr qualified us forgetting that we failed to qualify on two occasions back-to-back even as defending champions in 2015. Our African Guardiola and our Special One couldn't.

For the first I'm seeing the Super Eagles qualify for the World Cup and AFCON without needing calculators nor praying for the downfall of another team though we faced though oppositions. PS I'm in my early 20s can't say about the 90s.

Even if we go ahead to win the AFCON some of us will still come here to say:

"forget he won the AFCON, Rohr can't take us anywhere. He's inept and by the way what's AFCON for a whole Nigeria?" forgeting that a "whole" Ghana last won a trophy in 1982 (pls correct me if I'm wrong) and not even an Avram Grant could get them another.

We exalt the way SA played saying they had "free-flowing and sexy game". But I'm 100% sure that if the SE played same yesterday we would still come here to say

"the team played rubbish, all runnings and not bite, no shots and no final balls just headless chicken runs and long irrelevant balls"

All I'm saying is this: Yes, coach Rohr isn't 100% of what we desire in a coach but he's giving us results! results! he's doing his job. so these over-blown criticisms and insults are funny to me. Asides the unfortunate loss to SA, we're unbeaten against African oppositions.

On a final note, to those prophets of doom who drop doomsday prophecies before our matches just so they can come back after the match to say "didn't I say it?" una weldone, more grease to your keypads.

Some are already predicting a Quarter final last bus stop for the SE for a competition that will commence in 7 months' time. SMH

Same way some started singing before the World cup that "Nigeria will not win or draw Argentina" and they came here to say the "didn't I tell you?"


Some say: with the array of talents at Rohr's disposal, we shouldn't be struggling at all so at that Rohr should be shown the exit door
. I wonder what'd have happened to the coaches of Germany, Portugal and Spain following their early exit from the WC despite their "sexy and sleek football" plus huge arsenal of talents if they were Nigerians or employees of the NFF.

Happy Sunday fam! please pardon my long epistle

We seem to have over estimated ourselves.

When we talk about talent are we talking in the context of a world standard or our own local standard.

If we intend to be competing at the highest level then we need to use the standard applicable for making a deduction of outstanding quality talent. Otherwise we will be in delusion and enthrone mediocrity in the name of supporting our talent.

It's that misguided blinded bias that made people here to equate KC, to Mbappe, Aguero, Gabriel, etc, etc.

There is a need for realism we don't have any Kanu, Okocha , Finidi , Oliseh, Taribo, Yakubu, Yekini, Amokachi, etc. Anymore in my opinion we have regressed in the quality of players available to the SE currently. A lot more has to be done.

We have very limited talents as it stands not an abundance of talents.

Considering we called Kelechi Nwakali a SPECIAL TALENT and when I said there was no evidence to support that deduction. I was called hater and a lot worse.

So let's hail Rohr for a job well done with very limited talents.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 5:57pm On Nov 18, 2018
oloriooko:
I can't see falcons going far with this lack luster display maybe cuz this is their first match, I hope they improve with every match
This is the worst super falcon display in history. Quite funny they have a foreign technical adviser. What a waste of resources!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:59pm On Nov 18, 2018
Was it you?
somehow:
After rewatching clearly, i came here to change my view. you no see am oga Joe?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:59pm On Nov 18, 2018
Ok I thought it was another moniker grin
do4luv14:



bro, SOMEHOW don repent oooo,
e say make we forgive am grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Chukwuemeka007(m): 6:12pm On Nov 18, 2018
komekn:


We seem to have over estimated ourselves.

When we talk about talent are we talking in the context of a world standard or our own local standard.

If we intend to be competing at the highest level then we need to use the standard applicable for making a deduction of outstanding quality talent. Otherwise we will be in delusion and enthrone mediocrity in the name of supporting our talent.

It's that misguided blinded bias that made people here to equate KC, to Mbappe, Aguero, Gabriel, etc, etc.

There is a need for realism we don't have any Kanu, Okocha , Finidi , Oliseh, Taribo, Yakubu, Yekini, Amokachi, etc. Anymore in my opinion we have regressed in the quality of players available to the SE currently. A lot more has to be done.

We have very limited talents as it stands not an abundance of talents.

Considering we called Kelechi Nwakali a SPECIAL TALENT and when I said there was no evidence to support that deduction. I was called hater and a lot worse.

So let's hail Rohr for a job well done with very limited talents.





Sir Komekn, thanks for your exothermic reaction as anticipated. On Nigeria regressing in talents, myself and most persons here won't take that.

During yesterday's game, when Success was about to be subbed in, one of the commentators said:

"Isaac Success the Watford man in the EPL is about to come in. This gets you asking: how many African teams have EPL players on their bench? This goes to show the array of talents Nigeria has"

Sir Komekn, please what's the world standard in talent discovery/measurement?

And please of all the players so far invited by Rohr since his appointment, who amongst them are talented according to international standards?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 6:16pm On Nov 18, 2018
Southie 1 naija 0. What a disgraceful and shambolic display.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 6:20pm On Nov 18, 2018
We have some ex internationals that can handle this team. Why import a non entity white man? Menn, I shame for us!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 6:21pm On Nov 18, 2018
First round exit awaits falcons. With this display I don't see us beating Equatorial Guinea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 6:28pm On Nov 18, 2018
fabyom:
We have some ex internationals that can handle this team. Why import a non entity white man? Menn, I shame for us!
.

Calm down Oga. No need for the racist comment.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:29pm On Nov 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Just like how Siasia needed just a 2-1 win to qualify. We were already leading 2-1 but he kept on pushing forward to get a 3rd so as to secure a comprehensive win while toping the group and Bam! Guinea hit us on the counter and eqaulized and we crashed out.

Rohr is conservative yes but he has continued to achieve results. He is a very cautious coach.

If it is left to some of u here we will be parading different 11 players for each game. Imagine people proposing Success, Chukwueze and Onyekuru on starting line up for a game of this magnitude.

I was only disappointed in the officiating otherwise the boys got the job done.

I wonder if u people would have been saying these things u are saying if that Musa's goal had stood.



No one is saying Rohr should play to the gallery but for Christ sake, set up the team to have a little bit of bravery. It is not so long fake thugs last. We were outplayed in all factors of the game. Hiding behind we got results will not take us far when we meet a series of quality oppositions.

You can celebrate parking bus and docking our tails like scared kittens against a weakened South African side. Not me. We are well above that with our quality of talents.

Congrats we qualified but I will not fail to say we are way above that mediocre display we showed against South Africa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:33pm On Nov 18, 2018
komekn:


We seem to have over estimated ourselves.

When we talk about talent are we talking in the context of a world standard or our own local standard.

If we intend to be competing at the highest level then we need to use the standard applicable for making a deduction of outstanding quality talent. Otherwise we will be in delusion and enthrone mediocrity in the name of supporting our talent.

It's that misguided blinded bias that made people here to equate KC, to Mbappe, Aguero, Gabriel, etc, etc.

There is a need for realism we don't have any Kanu, Okocha , Finidi , Oliseh, Taribo, Yakubu, Yekini, Amokachi, etc. Anymore in my opinion we have regressed in the quality of players available to the SE currently. A lot more has to be done.

We have very limited talents as it stands not an abundance of talents.

Considering we called Kelechi Nwakali a SPECIAL TALENT and when I said there was no evidence to support that deduction. I was called hater and a lot worse.

So let's hail Rohr for a job well done with very limited talents.





When we talk our quality of talents, we are talking with respect to the South African side, not Aguero and Messi.

Kelechi Nwakali is a special talent. That is not even up for debate. The case where Kelechi Nwakali is concerned is nurturing his talent to become a top quality player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:38pm On Nov 18, 2018
Joebie:
grin

Haha my elder bro, as an expatriate, went with his white subordinates to Equatorial Guinea to handle a project. All the girls where circling his white boy boys. He just kept laughing in his mind. They never knew the black guy in thier midst was the master.

If the environment we create promotes excellence, some of our ingenious coaches will perform beyond our expectations.


so unfortunate...
the only thing really working for rohr..is integrity at least he is less corrupt when compared to Nigeria coaches..

I am still suspecting him and Baxter have one kind of naughty relationship that made him give up this match so easily.

had it been he raised eyebrows after the first disallowed goal....he really take time talk to the refree and lines men...
the second won't have repeat itself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:55pm On Nov 18, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


No one is saying Rohr should play to the gallery but for Christ sake, set up the team to have a little bit of bravery. It is not so long fake thugs last. We were outplayed in all factors of the game. Hiding behind we got results will not take us far when we meet a series of quality oppositions.

You can celebrate parking bus and docking our tails like scared kittens against a weakened South African side. Not me. We are well above that with our quality of talents.

Congrats we qualified but I will not fail to say we are way above that mediocre display we showed against South Africa.
brother just say you were not emotionally satisfied with the performance of the team but please stop saying they dominated in every aspect when the facts on ground don't support your assertion
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:58pm On Nov 18, 2018
chrisooblog:
brother just say you were not emotionally satisfied with the performance of the team but please stop saying they dominated in every aspect when the facts on ground don't support your assertion

Which fact on ground? We were atrocious. Simple. I do not want us playing that way in the name of result because we are capable of a little bit of bravery.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:03pm On Nov 18, 2018
No sir, it was Someone
Joebie:
Was it you?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:15pm On Nov 18, 2018
Corruption is rewarded in our system. A pat at the back and everyone looks the other way. How about we reward excellence? Let’s build an environment where if you are good people will open way for you. The best should be given the opportunity and resources to do even more, that’s the only way we can make advancement as a nation. Oliseh would have done well but for his poor leadership example. We have capable indigenous coaches, and if the environment is right they won’t see the need to be corrupt, and those who still are corrupt should be duly purnished. However, tomorrow, Yusuf will be back running things.

Humility017:


so unfortunate...
the only thing really working for rohr..is integrity at least he is less corrupt when compared to Nigeria coaches..

I am still suspecting him and Baxter have one kind of naughty relationship that made him give up this match so easily.

had it been he raised eyebrows after the first disallowed goal....he really take time talk to the refree and lines men...
the second won't have repeat itself.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:16pm On Nov 18, 2018
Kpele o. U are always somehow.
somehow:
No sir, it was Someone
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:17pm On Nov 18, 2018
Ohhh K. Nwakali didn’t play yesterday. Don’t even start that debate.

TheGoodJoe:


When we talk our quality of talents, we are talking with respect to the South African side, not Aguero and Messi.

Kelechi Nwakali is a special talent. That is not even up for debate. The case where Kelechi Nwakali is concerned is nurturing his talent to become a top quality player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:23pm On Nov 18, 2018
Yea, when we achieve 100% private funding we won’t have to worry about that zoo budget. #UpPinnick

tbaba1234:
More.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:26pm On Nov 18, 2018
Those people who were saying we need to destroy SA this weekend, where are you? Two games gone, none was ticked.

fabyom:
Southie 1 naija 0. What a disgraceful and shambolic display.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:29pm On Nov 18, 2018
COOL10:
.

Calm down Oga. No need for the racist comment.
That is exactly what we did. We removed a championship winning black woman for a white man with zero pedigree on the continent.

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