Crysthaniel:
in Jesus Case at Revelation 1:​17, 18 and 2:8. In these verses, the context shows that the one referred to died and later returned to life. Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:​12) However, Jesus died and was resurrected. (Acts 3:​13-​15) He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven, where he now lives “forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:​18; Colossians 1:​18) Jesus is the one who performs all resurrections thereafter. (John 6:​40, 44) Therefore, he was the last one to be resurrected directly by Jehovah. (Acts 10:40) In this sense, Jesus can properly be called “the First and the Last.

At Isaiah 44:6, Jehovah says: “I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me.” Here Jehovah highlights that he is the everlasting true God; besides him, there is no other. (Deuteronomy 4:​35, 39) In this case, then, the expression “the first and the last” has the same meaning as “the Alpha and the Omega

oh very confused know nothing cry
you false jw's have said the Alpha and Omega is the Father only

now that i have shown that the Alpha and Omega is also the Son(God and the Word is God, john 1:1)

you now say the Alpha and Omega(one like the Son of man) is not God


you false jw's never stop lying, particularly concerning God's word



God of course never died, the man did-his flesh, not His Spirit,
the word became flesh duh

OneJ:

I can see how U cherish your mumu doctrine. Isaiah 48:6 was repeated in 42:10, proof that it's Yahweh's speech.
The Isaiah 48:16b , is not a continuous speech from the first sentence of v16 (or even v15 or any preceding verse), neither was the statement attributed to Yahweh or anyone else.
By divine inspiration, Prophet isaiah wrote down a prophecy about a futuristic event.
( U have no concrete proof that v16b. is Yahweh's direct speech )
That verse never said Yahweh sent himself ,rather, Yahweh sent some one HE (Yahweh) had endowed with holy spirit.
The prophetic declaration of Isaiah 61:1 perfectly fits Isaiah 48: 16b..
Your conjectures no be proof.

It was nice that you edited your first reply but doesn't matter, you said i have no proof that it was a continues speech by Yahweh? such a stupid claim because obviously I didn't write the bible and certainly did not write Isaiah 48. Isaiah wrote down what Yahweh said from 48. Yahweh is the speaker from beginning to end. So why do you want to imply that Yahweh sent Someone else when the speaker was Yahweh?

You were not taught how to defend this so you are making a fool out of yourself, you see how brainwashed you've become that you lack critical thinking..

OneJ:

Jesus himself said Yahweh is "the Only true God, (John 17:3) The Most High God, Yahweh/ Jehovah (Psalms 83:18), the ALMIGHTY God.
Has Yahweh said his sons are Almighty God?

Because mumu doctrine remove your sense
, that's the source of your confusion.

Jesus himself said Yahweh is "the Only true God, (John 17:3)not Jesus Christ ,whom HE (YAHWEH) has sent
.(Isaiah 48:16b called Yahweh ,"Sovereign Lord" who sent me,(Jesus Christ) ,endowed with holy spirit. Shey U see am ?)
The Most High God is Yahweh/ Jehovah (Psalms 83:18), the ALMIGHTY God.

In Ps82:6 ,has Yahweh said his sons are Almighty God?

Receive sense.

still showing your illiteracy but I will condone you, Jesus said Yahweh only is the TRUE God, have you seen the Word true there,.So it means all other ones that call themselves gods are false gods by Yahwehs standard. Now did we say Jesus was another god? Nope we didn't, you JW's say he's "a god" a smaller god, so if Jesus said Yahweh is the only TRUE GOD then what kind of other god is Jesus by your doctrines, he can only be a false god since Yahweh is the ONLY TRUE GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE'S NONE.

Free critical understanding lesson... i don't blame u lots, you were taught not to take education serious so you obviously lack high critical thinking.. it's serious

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm well,true Christianity is about maturity,deep respect and mild temper. 1Peter 3:15
You can say whatever you like since it's your nature of response to thought provoking questions, but if you're not ready to distinguish or point out the religious group that's following Jesus' footsteps today i guess there is no need disturbing your brains.
But know today that the only reason that the Pharisees and other religious groups in ancient Israel were persecuting the Christians is because they were claiming to be the one and only source to divine wisdom,therefore if you can't say the same thing but antagonising the group making such claim then i'll take it that you belong to that ancient persecutors of Christians. Because they can't point to a single platform for divine wisdom whereas the Christians on the other hand kept saying "ONLY we have the truth".

the false jw church are the modern day pharisees
pharisees blasphemed Jesus saying He did his miracled by the spirit of satan

false jw pharisees blaspheme Jesus saying He is "a god" hence "a false god"

Jesus said in three days i will raise this temple(His body)
false jw say Jesus body wasn't raised

no diffrence between lying pharisees then and now

TATIME:
If you can't point to the religious group that's unitedly following the pattern of the first century Christians today then you're either saying Jesus has no united subjects or Jesus is a confusionist.
We strongly believe that our Master,Lord and King Jesus Christ has been enthroned in heaven and He is directing the activities of His earthly followers,who are doing everything He commanded them with oneness of speech and thought. 1Corinthians 1:10 Philippians 2:2

you false jw tat of course cannot stop lying
the Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ is not "a god" hence "a false god" as you lie and say

you say anything to try and show yourself righteous
but you keep showing yourself to be a pharisee hypocrite

OneJ:


Yahweh said "You are gods",you are all sons of the Most High" Psalms 82:6. (sons ,plural)
Jesus Christ quoted Psalms 82:6 and said "I am God's Son" John 10:34-36.
Therefore, Jesus Christ. is a god because God's sons are gods.
Yahweh never said his sons are false gods.
Because U refused to swallow your pride & accept the bitter pill of truth, U & your crew of LIARS are the ones who "makes Jesus a false god"
Una mumu done do !!

oh false jw onej of no understanding
the word in the flesh is called the Son of God
His Spirit is of course God, not "a god" hence "a false god"
a child could understand that, but not the blinded false jw's

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

plus read all the other scriptures i have posted showing that the Word Jesus Christ is God


you don't believe them mumu man, i know

zodiakzax:


still showing your illiteracy but I will condone you, Jesus said Yahweh only is the TRUE God, have you seen the Word true there,.So it means all other ones that call themselves gods are false gods by Yahwehs standard. Now did we say Jesus was another god? Nope we didn't, you JW's say he's "a god" a smaller god, so if Jesus said Yahweh is the only TRUE GOD then what kind of other god is Jesus by your doctrines, he can only be a false god since Yahweh is the ONLY TRUE GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE'S NONE.

Free critical understanding lesson... i don't blame u lots, you were taught not to take education serious so you obviously lack high critical thinking.. it's serious

Did U actually read the crap U just posted ? Yahweh said his sons are gods. Ps82:6.
A fact confirmed by Apostle Paul
1 Cor7:5,6.
Did Yahweh call his sons false gods? No
Yahweh alone is the only true God , Jesus Christ said so (John 17:3).
Because Yahweh is the Most High God,the ALMIGHTY God.
OMG, what happened to your brain ?

I'm not surprised..
Apostle Paul said " not everyone knows this" (1 Cor 8:7a).

TATIME:
I don't worry about whatever they say my brother because i've been a Muslim before and i can remember how i usually treat evangelizers back then. But now that i'm a Christian, i only pity them because i can testify that they have burning zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge. Just imagine Christians arguing furiously but can't point to a religious group that's practicing what they want the person they're arguing with to notice their activities and get the sense of true Christianity. Yet they're arguing bitterly with intense annoyance. Romans 10:2,3

i have heard of people leaving a false faith just to go to another false faith
it's amazing, antichrists will never find the truth

OneJ:


Did U actually read the crap U just posted ? Yahweh said his sons are gods. Ps82:6.
A fact confirmed by Apostle Paul
1 Cor7:5,6.
Did Yahweh call his sons false gods? No
Yahweh alone is the only true God , Jesus Christ said so (John 17:3).

the Father is the only true God
the Father and the Word is the only true God, john 1:1 and much more
but you not believing God's word will clearly never understand or know

OneJ: Because Yahweh is the Most High God,the ALMIGHTY God.
OMG, what happened to your brain ?

I'm not surprised..
Apostle Paul said " not everyone knows this" (1 Cor 8:7a).

he was talking about you, you don't know this, or anything

TATIME:
Just say "Jehovah's Witnesses doctrines contradicts that of today's churches" but regarding what the Bible REALLY teach, there is nothing as in NOTHING that Jehovah's Witnesses omitted!
All those churches are following the pattern of their human founder and when the founder dies his/her predecessors continues with whatever he/she lays down as doctrines for them,they only opt for other fast money making techniques and filling the places of worship with crowd.
But Jehovah's Witnesses have changed so many things that the said founder started with during the late nineteenth centuries, this made me believe that the group belongs not to Russell but to someone far greater than Charles Taze Russell!
Certainly the group is following ONE invisible person who is changing all the manmade doctrines that those forerunners of the group couldn't figure out during their lifetime! That's why Jehovah's Witnesses have been able to standout as the One and Only different group from all the religions of the world! John 17:14-19

false jw do stand out from all the other religions
no other religions have made all the failed false prophecies as false jw church have made

want to see some? you can read them yourself in old false jw publications

OneJ:

Jesus himself said Yahweh is "the Only true God, (John 17:3) The Most High God, Yahweh/ Jehovah (Psalms 83:18),

yes YAHWEH is the only true God, the Most High
God and the Word is the only true God, the Most High, john 1:1

OneJ:
the ALMIGHTY God.
Has Yahweh said his sons are Almighty God?

Jesus said I am the Alpha and Omega, and He-God inspired john to call Him the Almighty:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


you false jw's: onej, cry, tat, love to ignore-disbelieve God's word
oh you people-church of satan

johnw47:


yes YAHWEH is the only true God, the Most High
God and the Word is the only true God, the Most High, john 1:1



Jesus said I am the Alpha and Omega, and He-God inspired john to call Him the Almighty:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


you false jw's: onej, cry, tat, love to ignore-disbelieve God's word
oh you people-church of satan

You can argue and continue arguing bitterly upon something that the owner has already declared HIS stand.
"I'm coming quickly and my reward is with me to give each person according to his(or her) deeds" Revelations 22:12
NO human can judge for HIM!
So Jesus said "let those who are filty (but refused to change) continue in their filth and let the holy remain holy" Revelations 22:11
I was a Muslim before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses today,it's the good works and fine fruits of the organization that caught my attention! Therefore i believe it will make more sense if you guys can just point to another religious group claiming Christians that is producing FINE FRUITS or GOOD WORKS(Matthew 13:18-23, Galatians 5:22,23 & James 2:24-26) because if what both Apostle Paul, James and Jesus Himself said is anything to go by, Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten it all.
They've made over 8millions drop weapons and never ready to learn wars again. Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3
They've made a global lovely family. John 13:35,17:21-23
They've made marriages stronger than ever when most religious title chiefs are divorcé. Ephesians 5:33
They've been able to turn the minds of all members of the organization against this world's politics when most religious groups are suffering calamities due to the dirty game called POLITICS. Matthew 4:8-11 compared to John 6:15
They're the ONLY group that have conquered racism in all it's facets because they're following the teaching of Jesus who can't become prejudiced due to family ties with unbelievers but strongly attached to those having the same faith with Him. Matthew 12:46-50 compared to John 17:8,9
They were able to change even me a hot tempered individual due to my background,into a peacemaker (Matthew 5:9) calm and well behaved with deep respect,and now i goes our to preach and teach others how to put on the new (Christlike) personality! Ephesians 4:24, Colossians 3:10
So if you can't point to any other religious group that's meeting with these requirements, then you're all just exactly what Apostle Paul described in his first letter to the Corinthians "1Corinthians 13:1-13"
God bless you.

johnw47:


false jw do stand out from all the other religions
no other religions have made all the failed false prophecies as false jw church have made

want to see some? you can read them yourself in old false jw publications

If you're a Bible lover who reads God's word in an undertone day and night prayerfully with meditation,you will know that the first century Christians also made many wrong conclusions even when our Master Lord and King Jesus Himself was with them body and soul. John 21:20-23, Act 1:7,
They even made mistakes in organizational arrangements! Trying to do away with poverty amongst them even when Jesus has taught them that they'll "always have poor ones in their midst" until God's kingdom comes to remove poverty. Act 5:1-11 compared to John 12:8
So if you're dwelling on the mistakes of modern day imperfect men leading God's people,know today that it has always been like that in ancient times. Due to the fact that God is guiding them by his spirit while they are imperfect creatures, they're still prone to errors . But they fulfils the scriptures which says "all humans are sinners" (prone to errors) Romans 3:23 compared to Romans 7:13-25
So they'll humbly admit their mistakes and make amendments whenever they notice it. But God will not take it lightly with whoever is against them because HE will make them do fine works that's beyond the ability of those not having the backing of HIS holy spirit and everyone will notice it! That's why Jesus told them that whatever they binds on earth is also bound in heaven! Matthew 16:19

OneJ:


Did U actually read the crap U just posted ? Yahweh said his sons are gods. Ps82:6.
A fact confirmed by Apostle Paul
1 Cor7:5,6.
Did Yahweh call his sons false gods? No
Yahweh alone is the only true God , Jesus Christ said so (John 17:3).
Because Yahweh is the Most High God,the ALMIGHTY God.
OMG, what happened to your brain ?

I'm not surprised..
Apostle Paul said " not everyone knows this" (1 Cor 8:7a).

1cor 7:5-6 doesn't say anything about god or gods, you mind is playing tricks with you... where in the Psalms dis Yahweh say His sons are gods? Is that what the verse said?


Psalm 82:1 says, “God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the gods.” It is clear from the next three verses that the word “gods” refers to magistrates, judges, and other people who hold positions of authority and rule. Calling a human magistrate a “god” indicates three things: 1) he has authority over other human beings, 2) the power he wields as a civil authority is to be feared, and 3) he derives his power and authority from God Himself, who is pictured as judging the whole earth in verse 8.


For example, when God sent Moses to Pharaoh, He said, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh” (Exodus 7:1). This simply means that Moses, as the messenger of God, was speaking God’s words and would therefore be God’s representative to the king. The Hebrew word Elohim is translated “judges” in Exodus 21:6 and 22:8, 9, and 28.

Vs 7 days these gods/judges shall die like men and fall like one of the princes. Telling us they are mortals...

Now

As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and Lords many,) B[/b]ut to us there is [i]but one God, [/i]the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and [b]one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Corinthians 8:4‭-‬6 KJV

Evident that there's only ONE GOD UNTO US


Yahweh said talking about other gods that there's no other God apact from me,

I am the Lord , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isaiah 45:5 KJV

Thus saith the Lord , The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God.
Isaiah 45:14 KJV


See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV

From verse we see that no god with God except Him so The Word cannot be a god with God when God said there's no other god with me. Unless God is stupid to say there's no God except me then says again there are gods and that these gods are true Gods and He is the head of them but God is not stupid to imply that and that's why over and over again He said THERES NO OTHER GOD APART FROM HIM. Paul said there be many so called gods but unto us there's but ONE GOD..

which obviously in vs 7 of 1cor 8 he said not every man has that knowledge, you accuse us of that but guess what we never said there are many gods but ONE, you guys said there are many gods..

It's quite difficult dealing with illiterates. It's just too difficult trying to teach a kid things his mind cannot comprehend... hmmm..

TATIME:
You can argue and continue arguing bitterly upon something that the owner has already declared HIS stand.
"I'm coming quickly and my reward is with me to give each person according to his(or her) deeds" Revelations 22:12
NO human can judge for HIM!
So Jesus said "let those who are filty (but refused to change) continue in their filth and let the holy remain holy" Revelations 22:11
I was a Muslim before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses today,it's the good works and fine fruits of the organization that caught my attention! Therefore i believe it will make more sense if you guys can just point to another religious group claiming Christians that is producing FINE FRUITS or GOOD WORKS(Matthew 13:18-23, Galatians 5:22,23 & James 2:24-26) because if what both Apostle Paul, James and Jesus Himself said is anything to go by, Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten it all.
They've made over 8millions drop weapons and never ready to learn wars again. Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3
They've made a global lovely family. John 13:35,17:21-23
They've made marriages stronger than ever when most religious title chiefs are divorcé. Ephesians 5:33
They've been able to turn the minds of all members of the organization against this world's politics when most religious groups are suffering calamities due to the dirty game called POLITICS. Matthew 4:8-11 compared to John 6:15
They're the ONLY group that have conquered racism in all it's facets because they're following the teaching of Jesus who can't become prejudiced due to family ties with unbelievers but strongly attached to those having the same faith with Him. Matthew 12:46-50 compared to John 17:8,9
They were able to change even me a hot tempered individual due to my background,into a peacemaker (Matthew 5:9) calm and well behaved with deep respect,and now i goes our to preach and teach others how to put on the new (Christlike) personality! Ephesians 4:24, Colossians 3:10
So if you can't point to any other religious group that's meeting with these requirements, then you're all just exactly what Apostle Paul described in his first letter to the Corinthians "1Corinthians 13:1-13"
God bless you.

Yes you can only join JW's because Muslims have similar believes like them.... but you Muslims actually do believe there's a hell, so as an ex Muslim who feared hell challenge them on that.

Let me and the scripture for you

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 22:12‭-‬13 KJV

Did you see that?

zodiakzax:


Yes you can only join JW's because Muslims have similar believes like them.... but you Muslims actually do believe there's a hell, so as an ex Muslim who feared hell challenge them on that.

Let me and the scripture for you

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Revelation 22:12‭-‬13 KJV

Did you see that?

You're spiritually blind! Matthew 13:15
Why are you just repeating the same stupidity over and over again without making any reasonable impact with your many posts? I've posted several works that the Jehovah's Witnesses have done and their accomplishments but all you're doing is quoting scriptures without showing any PRACTICAL applications.
James said if you're saying "I have faith" (like quoting God's word) while your neighbor is saying "I have works" (showing what he is doing due to what he believes) it means your neighbor is right while you're wrong
Because he is SHOWING or PRESENTING to you his FAITH through his WORKS whereas you have NOTHING to present to show your faith. So James concluded by saying your "faith without works is DEAD" James 2:18-26
I have presented several fine works of an organization claiming Christians but you're saying they're wrong because of their interpretation of the scriptures which you yourself have your own interpretations while you're supporting different religious groups having conflicting teachings and contradicting doctrines. OK SHOW us the WORKS of your faith as evidence of divine backing? You're shying away from that part but kept repeating what everyone can read in the Bible with their eyes.
For your information, Jesus said it's by their fruit that you will recognise those serving God and those not serving HIM. Matthew 7:15-21
KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information,my friend no one is doubting your ability to read what is written in the Bible in it's simply translated to English so everyone can read it.
WISDOM is the "practical applications" of accumulated information for lasting benefits, this is where you have NOTHING to present.
Jesus meant what those people are doing that's OBVIOUS to all eyes and not just blind arguments of no benefit!
So please instead of the useless argument of whether Jesus was Born in a manger, became a Carpenter,Nazarene,Born of a virgin,Tribe of Judah,Emmanuel,Christ,Savior,god or Almighty God.
What matters is PRESENT what your religious group is doing as the IDENTIFICATION of true Christians! Because anybody can claim to belong to Jesus, what matters is how far they're able to do fine WORKS in the society and how powerful is the doctrines as in changing the old personality of faithfuls.
This is why you have stylishly became a member of none~denominational,because you can't see any other religious group that's producing the FRUIT expected of true Christians.

TATIME:
You're spiritually blind! Matthew 13:15
Why are you just repeating the same stupidity over and over again without making any reasonable impact with your many posts? I've posted several works that the Jehovah's Witnesses have done and their accomplishments but all you're doing is quoting scriptures without showing any PRACTICAL applications.
James said if you're saying "I have faith" (like quoting God's word) while your neighbor is saying "I have works" (showing what he is doing due to what he believes) it means your neighbor is right while you're wrong
Because he is SHOWING or PRESENTING to you his FAITH through his WORKS whereas you have NOTHING to present to show your faith. So James concluded by saying your "faith without works is DEAD" James 2:18-26
I have presented several fine works of an organization claiming Christians but you're saying they're wrong because of their interpretation of the scriptures which you yourself have your own interpretations while you're supporting different religious groups having conflicting teachings and contradicting doctrines. OK SHOW us the WORKS of your faith as evidence of divine backing? You're shying away from that part but kept repeating what everyone can read in the Bible with their eyes.
For your information, Jesus said it's by their fruit that you will recognise those serving God and those not serving HIM. Matthew 7:15-21
KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information,my friend no one is doubting your ability to read what is written in the Bible in it's simply translated to English so everyone can read it.
WISDOM is the "practical applications" of accumulated information for lasting benefits, this is where you have NOTHING to present.
Jesus meant what those people are doing that's OBVIOUS to all eyes and not just blind arguments of no benefit!
So please instead of the useless argument of whether Jesus was Born in a manger, became a Carpenter,Nazarene,Born of a virgin,Tribe of Judah,Emmanuel,Christ,Savior,god or Almighty God.
What matters is PRESENT what your religious group is doing as the IDENTIFICATION of true Christians! Because anybody can claim to belong to Jesus, what matters is how far they're able to do fine WORKS in the society and how powerful is the doctrines as in changing the old personality of faithfuls.
This is why you have stylishly became a member of none~denominational,because you can't see any other religious group that's producing the FRUIT expected of true Christians.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 KJV

Does that mean that Paul is contradicting James? Nay, all James was saying we should be Doers of the Word,.it's as simple as that, and how do you want to see my works? Do you want me boast about them? Well sorry... only thing we can do on this platform is to preach the word and rebuke you heretics.
And Thats why i said you lots are illiterates, Its foolishness to look at the works of a religion than the doctrine behind the religion. Of course Muslims believe it's a religion of peace but researching more into the quran proves that in the quran Muslims are actually told to fight the unbelievers and be rude to them... hence not a good source of material to preach peace... a Christian who kills in the name of the gospel is not A Christian because, He is not following the teachings of Christ and the Apostles even if he professes to be a Christian. I've done over and over again to prove that Jesus is God yet you tatime what have you done to prove otherwise? You are here talking about works, so you know how many true Christians are out there in the middle East preaching and dying for Christ daily? Do you know how many of my folks die for Christ and preach the undiluted gospel of Chirst even if the world is against them? They will i boast about... You have no idea how many give all to help the poor when They themselves have nothing to eat.. So don't come here and be saying Jehovah witnesses have good works so they practice true Christianity, such stupidity and nonsense.

I didn't see you show any works? What works are you talking about? I can only see you type stupidity over and over again.
So Show me your works please...

You go round in your funny dresses and with your heretic doctrine deceiving poor souls who know nothing about Christ and His doctrine, and when you meet those who challenge you and point out your errors you quickly run away like scared dogs with tails under their ass...


It is our duty to defend the gospel against you heretics and i believe it's going well so far given that you lots have done a poor job defending your heretic views and doctrine... plus I thought you were the modest one of them

zodiakzax:


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 KJV

Does that mean that Paul is contradicting James? Nay, all James was saying we should be Doers of the Word,.it's as simple as that, and how do you want to see my works? Do you want me boast about them? Well sorry... only thing we can do on this platform is to preach the word and rebuke you heretics.
And Thats why i said you lots are illiterates, Its foolishness to look at the works of a religion than the doctrine behind the religion. Of course Muslims believe it's a religion of peace but researching more into the quran proves that in the quran Muslims are actually told to fight the unbelievers and be rude to them... hence not a good source of material to preach peace... a Christian who kills in the name of the gospel is not A Christian because, He is not following the teachings of Christ and the Apostles even if he professes to be a Christian. I've done over and over again to prove that Jesus is God yet you tatime what have you done to prove otherwise? You are here talking about works, so you know how many true Christians are out there in the middle East preaching and dying for Christ daily? Do you know how many of my folks die for Christ and preach the undiluted gospel of Chirst even if the world is against them? They will i boast about... You have no idea how many give all to help the poor when They themselves have nothing to eat.. So don't come here and be saying Jehovah witnesses have good works so they practice true Christianity, such stupidity and nonsense.

I didn't see you show any works? What works are you talking about? I can only see you type stupidity over and over again.
So Show me your works please...

You go round in your funny dresses and with your heretic doctrine deceiving poor souls who know nothing about Christ and His doctrine, and when you meet those who challenge you and point out your errors you quickly run away like scared dogs with tails under their ass...


It is our duty to defend the gospel against you heretics and i believe it's going well so far given that you lots have done a poor job defending your heretic views and doctrine... plus I thought you were the modest one of them

You've seen,heard and witnessed the fine works of Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, i've also listed the achievements of this ONE and ONLY true Christian organization that you're criticizing.
But just mention a better religious group that's producing the FRUITS of the spirit because that's what any right thinking individual will see to recognise TRUE Christians. Act 11:26
There is no need defending what is obvious, rather it's the one having NOTHING to present as evidence of his faith that often engages in unwarranted arguments. But as for true Christians, Jesus has cleared the air when He said "wisdom is justified by all her children" Luke 7:35 well it's what His teaching was accomplishing that Jesus is talking about Sir!

TATIME:
You've seen,heard and witnessed the fine works of Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, i've also listed the achievements of this ONE and ONLY true Christian organization that you're criticizing.
But just mention a better religious group that's producing the FRUITS of the spirit because that's what any right thinking individual will see to recognise TRUE Christians. Act 11:26
There is no need defending what is obvious, rather it's the one having NOTHING to present as evidence of his faith that often engages in unwarranted arguments. But as for true Christians, Jesus has cleared the air when He said "wisdom is justified by all her children" Luke 7:35 well it's what His teaching was accomplishing that Jesus is talking about Sir!

well I don't know any good works or havnt seen any good works by JW's so kindly point out some that you are directly involved with and what you claim are the good works of your organization.. I'm all ears....

zodiakzax:



well I don't know any good works or havnt seen any good works by JW's so kindly point out some that you are directly involved with and what you claim are the good works of your organization.. I'm all ears....

He will soon tell you distributing magazines. Then also say people who give money, support, shelter, clothes, food, water etc to the needy are Satan worshippers.

TATIME:
You've seen,heard and witnessed the fine works of Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, i've also listed the achievements of this ONE and ONLY true Christian organization that you're criticizing.
But just mention a better religious group that's producing the FRUITS of the spirit because that's what any right thinking individual will see to recognise TRUE Christians. Act 11:26
There is no need defending what is obvious, rather it's the one having NOTHING to present as evidence of his faith that often engages in unwarranted arguments. But as for true Christians, Jesus has cleared the air when He said "wisdom is justified by all her children" Luke 7:35 well it's what His teaching was accomplishing that Jesus is talking about Sir!

The good works is wishing 8 billion non jws to be slaughtered by your jehovah so 8 million Jw will step on their dead bodies in their imaginary upcoming new system

zodiakzax:


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 KJV
Do you know how many of my folks die for Christ and preach the undiluted gospel of Chirst even if the world is against them? They will i boast about... You have no idea how many give all to help the poor when They themselves have nothing to eat plus I thought you were the modest one of them

My friend, there is NOTHING to getting yourself killed in places where you're not welcomed with your religion! What Jesus Christ said is "When they are persecuting you in one place, RUN AWAY to another safe place" Matthew 10:23 So whoever is trying to force his religious beliefs on UNWILLING audience is not doing so for Christ!
(1)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced over 8 Millions following their organization to forgo anything to do with WEAPONS or WARS. Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:3,4
(2)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to forgo the dirty game called POLITICS. John 6:15
(3)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to stick to God's original arrangement of marriage "one man,one wife" 1Timothy 3:2
(4)Jehovah's Witnesses have made a global family of like minded members from all races. John 13:34,35,17:20-22
There are many more FINE WORKS of this ONE and ONLY true Christian group that's OBVIOUS to all!
Hellooooooooooo that's what any right thinking individual will desire to know and not all these fruitless arguments of "I understand the scriptures much more than you" in the absence of PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS that's called WISDOM!

TATIME:
My friend, there is NOTHING to getting yourself killed in places where you're not welcomed with your religion! What Jesus Christ said is "When they are persecuting you in one place, RUN AWAY to another safe place" Matthew 10:23 So whoever is trying to force his religious beliefs on UNWILLING audience is not doing so for Christ!
(1)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced over 8 Millions following their organization to forgo anything to do with WEAPONS or WARS. Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:3,4
(2)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to forgo the dirty game called POLITICS. John 6:15
(3)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to stick to God's original arrangement of marriage "one man,one wife" 1Timothy 3:2
(4)Jehovah's Witnesses have made a global family of like minded members from all races. John 13:34,35,17:20-22
There are many more FINE WORKS of this ONE and ONLY true Christian group that's OBVIOUS to all!
Hellooooooooooo that's what any right thinking individual will desire to know and not all these fruitless arguments of "I understand the scriptures much more than you" in the absence of PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS that's called WISDOM!

You want to now lie that all non jws carry weapons of war or play dirty politics. Lol

Have you forgotten that you jehovah is coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man? Have you forgotten that in your Jehovah's holy war 99.9% of earths population ie all non jws are going to be slaughtered?

Have you forgotten that in your new system you will be stepping on dead bodies and vultures will come feed on the dead bodies?

Have you people forgotten that you will all suffer from post traumatic stress disorder after this mass murder to be done by your jehovah?

Lol. Pot calling kettle black.

Hairyrapunzel:

He will soon tell you distributing magazines. Then also say people who give money, support, shelter, clothes, food, water etc to the needy are Satan worshippers.

NOPE! That is just minor works that any reasonable group like ordinary cooperative can come up with. But Jehovah's Witnesses have accomplished the seemingly impossible things that NO other religious group can come close to!
For example, only Jehovah's Witnesses knew that the national anthem started from the time of the king of Babylon "Nebuchadnezzar". Daniel 3:1-12 And it's the most potential weapon Satan is using to promote RACISM amongst mankind!
So Jehovah's Witnesses will never recite the national anthem of any nation because we strongly believe that no race is superior to another!

TATIME:
NOPE! That is just minor works that any reasonable group like ordinary cooperative can come up with. But Jehovah's Witnesses have accomplished the seemingly impossible things that NO other religious group can come close to!
For example, only Jehovah's Witnesses knew that the national anthem started from the time of the king of Babylon "Nebuchadnezzar". Daniel 3:1-12 And it's the most potential weapon Satan is using to promote RACISM amongst mankind!
So Jehovah's Witnesses will never recite the national anthem of any nation because we strongly believe that no race is superior to another!

You wanna tell us that all non jws are racists because they recite national anthem abi?
In the old testament Israelites killed people men women and children inclusive because they worshipped a different God.

Jehovah is a racist too.

OneJ:


Mumu offspring of Satan spewing falsehood.
Nobody anywhere is equal to anyone he calls "My Father" or says "he is like a father to me".
Does Yahweh have a Father /God ?
Consistently, Jesus Christ himself said he has a Father. Fact.
Go dump your mumu doctrine inside dustbin.

The popular rendition of John 1:1 "the word was God" contradicts the fact of Jesus Christ calling himself a son.
John 1:1 is the same as Acts 12:22, 28:6 (KJV).
The same rule apply to each of them. They should all read "a god."
Only fraudulent people bend the rules, that's what these Trinity fraudsters did to John 1:1.

You that has being saying people will survive Armageddon only if they join watchtower organization is also a mumu offspring of Satan spewing falsehood.

Hairyrapunzel:



You want to now lie that all non jws carry weapons of war or play dirty politics. Lol

Have you forgotten that you jehovah is coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man? Have you forgotten that in your Jehovah's holy war 99.9% of earths population ie all non jws are going to be slaughtered?

Have you forgotten that in your new system you will be stepping on dead bodies and vultures will come feed on the dead bodies?

Have you people forgotten that you will all suffer from post traumatic stress disorder after this mass murder to be done by your jehovah?

Lol. Pot calling kettle black.

You were once one of Jehovah's Witnesses so if you're not just out to argue blindly,please mention the name of any politician you can think of who is an ACTIVE member of JW organization!
As for killing over 8billions to end badness, it's obvious you have NOTHING to do with what we're discussing now my friend. Because all believers of the document called Bible knew that the same God have destroyed all souls on dry land saving just 8 souls before. So none of those claiming Christians will agree with your disbelieve!
For your information Sir, what we're discussing now is not whether God will destroy billions since all those professing believe in God agreed to the fact that God will destroy 99% of earth's inhabitants but who are those that will be shown Mercy?
So if you have NOTHING tangible to contribute for now you can take the next door!

TATIME:
You were once one of Jehovah's Witnesses so if you're not just out to argue blindly,please mention the name of any politician you can think of who is an ACTIVE member of JW organization!
As for killing over 8billions to end badness, it's obvious you have NOTHING to do with what we're discussing now my friend. Because all believers of the document called Bible knew that the same God have destroyed all souls on dry land saving just 8 souls before. So none of those claiming Christians will agree with your disbelieve!
For your information Sir, what we're discussing now is not whether God will destroy billions since all those professing believe in God agreed to the fact that God will destroy 99% of earth's inhabitants but who are those that will be shown Mercy?
So if you have NOTHING tangible to contribute for now you can take the next door!

Lol. You don tire? You wanted to lie that all non jws carry weapons of war and are also involved in dirty politics and I called you out.

Your governing body vote to change doctrines as they need just 2/3rd of their number to vote for the doctrinal change. They also vote to appoint governing body members. They are politicians

Your governing body member anthony morris said he will be beside Jesus Christ killing wicked people during Armageddon aka holy war. Your governing body members will carry weapons of war as they dream of carrying it.

So yes your governing body members are involved in active politics and they also Carry weapons of war (they intend to do this).

Come and beat me I am in my house.

Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. You don tire? You wanted to lie that all non jws carry weapons of war and are also involved in dirty politics and I called you out.

Your governing body vote to change doctrines as they need just 2/3rd of their number to vote for the doctrinal change. They also vote to appoint governing body members. They are politicians

Your governing body member anthony morris said he will be beside Jesus Christ killing wicked people during Armageddon aka holy war. Your governing body members will carry weapons of war as they dream of carrying it.

So yes your governing body members are involved in active politics and they also Carry weapons of war (they intend to do this).

Come and beat me I am in my house.

COME AND BEAT YOU
My friend, why is your mind so full of bitterness and fearfulness ? Hebrew 10:26,27, Luke 6:45
I'm suspecting you're experiencing what Jesus foretold regarding the figurative house that was cleansed and because it was NOT filled with GOOD THINGS, seven more wicked demons came back with the first demon that was driven out and the end of the person became worse than his beginning. Matthew 12:43-45
I can't ask you to go anywhere else because you've known the truth already, you really need to fill your mind with new things and forget about Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you can't think like a normal person again.
Please try and see the elders of the nearest congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses to help you so that you can regain sanity. James 5:13-15
Go now and do that because from the look of things you're gradually loosing your mind

Hairyrapunzel:


You wanna tell us that all non jws are racists because they recite national anthem abi?
In the old testament Israelites killed people men women and children inclusive because they worshipped a different God.

Jehovah is a racist too.

Israelites were to destroy those who refused to leave their land because Abraham has paid the price of that land in full to the original inhabitants of Canaan! Genesis 23:17,18
But whoever makes peace with the Israelites will be allowed to stay in any of the land of Canaan as none citizens. Joshua 2:1-13,6:24,25
Go and see the psychiatrist now before it's too late because you're gradually loosing your sanity!!

TATIME:

COME AND BEAT YOU
My friend, why is your mind so full of bitterness and fearfulness ? Hebrew 10:26,27, Luke 6:45
I'm suspecting you're experiencing what Jesus foretold regarding the figurative house that was cleansed and because it was NOT filled with GOOD THINGS, seven more wicked demons came back with the first demon that was driven out and the end of the person became worse than his beginning. Matthew 12:43-45
I can't ask you to go anywhere else because you've known the truth already, you really need to fill your mind with new things and forget about Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise you can't think like a normal person again.
Please try and see the elders of the nearest congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses to help you so that you can regain sanity. James 5:13-15
Go now and do that because from the look of things you're gradually loosing your mind

Lol I no fit laff. You want to judge people yet you have worse plans.
Weapons of war and dirty politics lol.
Next time accuse non jws and you will see that you are not even different.

A Normal human being will never think like you. Just read what you typed a Normal human being will never type something like this.


Someone that thinks that his jehovah will slaughter people because they refused to join watchtower organization and obey the teaching of the self appointed governing body members who say they are uninspired and fallible and can err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction isn't a Normal human being. Kpele.

TATIME:
My friend, there is NOTHING to getting yourself killed in places where you're not welcomed with your religion! What Jesus Christ said is "When they are persecuting you in one place, RUN AWAY to another safe place" Matthew 10:23 So whoever is trying to force his religious beliefs on UNWILLING audience is not doing so for Christ!
(1)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced over 8 Millions following their organization to forgo anything to do with WEAPONS or WARS. Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:3,4
(2)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to forgo the dirty game called POLITICS. John 6:15
(3)Jehovah's Witnesses have convinced all members to stick to God's original arrangement of marriage "one man,one wife" 1Timothy 3:2
(4)Jehovah's Witnesses have made a global family of like minded members from all races. John 13:34,35,17:20-22
There are many more FINE WORKS of this ONE and ONLY true Christian group that's OBVIOUS to all!
Hellooooooooooo that's what any right thinking individual will desire to know and not all these fruitless arguments of "I understand the scriptures much more than you" in the absence of PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS that's called WISDOM!

I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
Revelation 2:13 KJV

Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
Acts 12:1‭-‬2 KJV


You are quoting Mathew 10:23, you have forgotten from vs 16 to 39? That's what you do, you use a verse and completely take it out of context

Vs 16: Jesus said He sends the Apostles among wolves,.hostile environment, so Christ is sending us already into a hostile crowd

Vs 17 He said me will deliver them up to councils and they will whip them in their synagogues which again shows that Christ is sending us into a hostile environment where they are unwilling to hear the Word but are forced anyways

Vs18 that the Apostles shall brought before kings and governors, yet again this done because Christ is sending them to a hostile unwilling environment.

Vs 21 Christ said brothers shall betray and deliver their own to be put to death and children shall rise against their parents and cause them to be put to death, and for what reason? We see that in vs

22. AND YE SHALL BD HATED OF ALL MEN COF MY NAMES SAKE BUT HE THAY ENDURETH TO THE END SHALL BE SAVED

Vs 23 Christ tells them to move to another city when they persecute them because there's no time to waste on a city that doesn't accept the gospel, they need to waste no time for the Son of man's coming is at hand, so gospel must be preached on other cities also... they will be persecuted meaning they will be in a hostile environment

Vs 26 Christ said they shouldn't fear, they can only be admonished not to fear when the environment is hostile hence the strength to preach on without fear

Vs 28 Christ said they will you but do not fear them that only kills the body but cannot kill the soul

Vs 34 to 39 Christ said he didn't peace but a sword to the earth, many shall rise against his followers but those that will keep their life will lose it and those who will lose their lives for His sake will find it.


Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Matthew 24:9‭-‬10 KJV


And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and [b]some of you shall they cause to be put to death. [/b]And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. But there shall not an hair of your head perish. In your patience possess ye your souls.
Luke 21:16‭-‬19 KJV

You see how ignorant you are? You see how you are quick to cherry pick verses to suite your lies? You see how you quote out of context? That's how you are trained no doubt...



Antipas was killed for Christs sake and Christ said he was His faithful servant who died for Him (Martyr). Rev 2:13




We saw Stephen dying for the sake of Christ, James dying, all apostles except John dying for preaching Christ, John was even killed several times and Christ rescued him....

Church history tells.how many died for Christ, how many were tortured, burnt, crucified on crosses, given to animals to devour all for the sake of Christ.


So please if you want to preach in a nice environment Then know that you are against Christ. How Then shall we be persecuted if we don't preach against other beliefs? Ooo ye foolish Jehovah Witnesses how long shall corrupt the gospel, cursed are you, cursed is anyone who doesnt preach and teach the truth