BascoVanVeli:

That is exactly what we did. We removed a championship winning black woman for a white man with zero pedigree on the continent.

komekn:


We seem to have over estimated ourselves.

When we talk about talent are we talking in the context of a world standard or our own local standard.

If we intend to be competing at the highest level then we need to use the standard applicable for making a deduction of outstanding quality talent. Otherwise we will be in delusion and enthrone mediocrity in the name of supporting our talent.

It's that misguided blinded bias that made people here to equate KC, to Mbappe, Aguero, Gabriel, etc, etc.

There is a need for realism we don't have any Kanu, Okocha , Finidi , Oliseh, Taribo, Yakubu, Yekini, Amokachi, etc. Anymore in my opinion we have regressed in the quality of players available to the SE currently. A lot more has to be done.

We have very limited talents as it stands not an abundance of talents.

Considering we called Kelechi Nwakali a SPECIAL TALENT and when I said there was no evidence to support that deduction. I was called hater and a lot worse.

So let's hail Rohr for a job well done with very limited talents.

tbaba1234:
Dalung

Joebie:
Those people who were saying we need to destroy SA this weekend, where are you? Two games gone, none was ticked.

chrisooblog:
for once I'm in agreement with you that we over estimate our talent sometimes

Joebie:
Corruption is rewarded in our system. A pat at the back and everyone looks the other way. How about we reward excellence? Let’s build an environment where if you are good people will open way for you. The best should be given the opportunity and resources to do even more, that’s the only way we can make advancement as a nation. Oliseh would have done well but for his poor leadership example. We have capable indigenous coaches, and if the environment is right they won’t see the need to be corrupt, and those who still are corrupt should be duly purnished. However, tomorrow, Yusuf will be back running things.

joseph1013:

Even Oliseh did not cover himself in glory with respect to selection. Silvester Igboun was always the first on his list. I could not understand it until we learnt his brother is the guy's agent.

Where is Igboun now?

Rohr also has some dodgy selection problems. Ezenwa's surprising calls to the national team and his shocking inclusion in yesterday's game is a baggage that is difficult to explain away.

His constant refusal to give Onyekuru considerable time in matches is also to be explained.

I think we deserve better than what Rohr is giving us. No coach in the history of the country has enjoyed the kind of support, both morally and financially, he's enjoying from the NFF.

If Keshi or Amodu had produced what he did at the World Cup, they would have been sacked. No questions about it.

tbaba1234:
Iheanacho and Success
Under 17 and today

Joebie:
Haha abi why una think say Buhari put am there? cabal and friends only must chop.

TheGoodJoe:


Which fact on ground? We were atrocious. Simple. I do not want us playing that way in the name of result because we are capable of a little bit of bravery.

joseph1013:

Even Oliseh did not cover himself in glory with respect to selection. Silvester Igboun was always the first on his list. I could not understand it until we learnt his brother is the guy's agent.

Where is Igboun now?

Rohr also has some dodgy selection problems. Ezenwa's surprising calls to the national team and his shocking inclusion in yesterday's game is a baggage that is difficult to explain away.

His constant refusal to give Onyekuru considerable time in matches is also to be explained.

I think we deserve better than what Rohr is giving us. No coach in the history of the country has enjoyed the kind of support, both morally and financially, he's enjoying from the NFF.

If Keshi or Amodu had produced what he did at the World Cup, they would have been sacked. No questions about it.

joseph1013:

Even Oliseh did not cover himself in glory with respect to selection. Silvester Igboun was always the first on his list. I could not understand it until we learnt his brother is the guy's agent.

Where is Igboun now?

Rohr also has some dodgy selection problems. Ezenwa's surprising calls to the national team and his shocking inclusion in yesterday's game is a baggage that is difficult to explain away.

His constant refusal to give Onyekuru considerable time in matches is also to be explained.

I think we deserve better than what Rohr is giving us. No coach in the history of the country has enjoyed the kind of support, both morally and financially, he's enjoying from the NFF.

If Keshi or Amodu had produced what he did at the World Cup, they would have been sacked. No questions about it.

Joebie:
Oya put our talents side by side with SA na.
If you really dont have talents play with a big heart as a team.

EEGA:
A group that had WC finalists(Croatia) and a desperate Argentina.I doubt any coach would have qualified us from that group.

Chukwuemeka007:


Sir Komekn, thanks for your exothermic reaction as anticipated. On Nigeria regressing in talents, myself and most persons here won't take that.

During yesterday's game, when Success was about to be subbed in, one of the commentators said:

"Isaac Success the Watford man in the EPL is about to come in. This gets you asking: how many African teams have EPL players on their bench? This goes to show the array of talents Nigeria has"

Sir Komekn, please what's the world standard in talent discovery/measurement?

And please of all the players so far invited by Rohr since his appointment, who amongst them are talented according to international standards?

joseph1013:

I have no doubt that Keshi would have qualified from that group.

Croatia was not spectacular in our game. Croatia grew into the tournament. Keshi would have won the match at best, and drawn at the worst, dispatched Iceland and possibly draw with Argentina, who are at the worst in a long time.

You guys need to remember that the 2018 Eagles were the most cohesive and happiest set in about the last 40 years.

In 2014, the team was going to the game against France fighting NFF about money. As at match day, players were still grumbling.

Rohr might still not have qualified in a group having Argentina, Bosnia and Iran.

joseph1013:

I have no doubt that Keshi would have qualified from that group.

Croatia was not spectacular in our game. Croatia grew into the tournament. Keshi would have won the match at best, and drawn at the worst, dispatched Iceland and possibly draw with Argentina, who are at the worst in a long time.

You guys need to remember that the 2018 Eagles were the most cohesive and happiest set in about the last 40 years.

In 2014, the team was going to the game against France fighting NFF about money. As at match day, players were still grumbling.

Rohr might still not have qualified in a group having Argentina, Bosnia and Iran.

Joebie:
Bro, even if we played SA in a friendly today in a neutral ground expect to see the same. With Rohr I know what to expect. And we should all know this if we threw out all sentiments. I know he can win games but I know a tactical coach will always pose him problems.

Well let me take on the issues u seemed to be quoting me. Firstly I never said we will not get to the QF. But I consider getting to the QF an achievement over AFCON qualification.Why? Nigeria is easily among the top 8 teams in Africa or at least should always come out of the group at an AFCON competition. I’m not even setting the bar high here. It’s just the reality, and even our TRUE Team B should be able to pull that off. That’s the bare minimum. I’m saying I’ts far reasonable celebrating that than an AFCON qualification. Those saying we failed to qualify in the past can we be sincere enough to compare the circumstances. Our failures were purely caused by administrative lapses in the glass house. Even Yusuf would qualify us for the AFCON given him the right working environment Rohr has enjoyed. You guys failed to realize that Rohr has enjoyed the backing of the NFF than any coach has ever had. I want to applaud Pinnick for that, and he also gave Oliseh that kind of support. Siasia only had a stint. Or did u guys think Rohr would have qualified us in that Siasia circumstance? Every coach deserves support. I will say it again, if Nigeria can promote an atmosphere of excellence we will exceed expectations in all walks of life within this country.

Rohr has shown us his best, but his best will not bring out the best we can get considering what we have. I’m afraid at this timing we have to manage him. Even if he were an indigenous coach, I would say the same. It’s not the right time to send him out, because he still has the results going well for him. However I can already smell the coffee. That day will come, because he will not do more than he has already demonstrated. For one thing he will not exceed Keshi’s achievement. Now can you ask yourself, don’t we deserve better than Keshi’s achievement? The time will come you all will realize it’s time to move on.

Nobody is asking we play like Barca. But it’s simply unacceptable that we can hardly string passes from defense to attack without losing possession in a CARELESS manner. Or am I exxagaratimg here? Somebody tell me.

If the altitude is high, you reduce your running and let the ball do the running. But how is this possible when ur passing game is suspect. We still have that all-important key pass strength in us, which is why we beat their defense and scored (wrongly disallowed) in two occasions. However, we can do better as a team considering SA isn’t even a great team.

Rohr should be able to spot this problem and fix it. Will he?

Modified
Rohr will not even match Keshi’s achievement. You can bookmark this

EEGA:
A group that had WC finalists(Croatia) and a desperate Argentina.I doubt any coach would have qualified us from that group.

TheGoodJoe:


When we talk our quality of talents, we are talking with respect to the South African side, not Aguero and Messi.

Kelechi Nwakali is a special talent. That is not even up for debate. The case where Kelechi Nwakali is concerned is nurturing his talent to become a top quality player.

joseph1013:

I have no doubt that Keshi would have qualified from that group.

Croatia was not spectacular in our game. Croatia grew into the tournament. Keshi would have won the match at best, and drawn at the worst, dispatched Iceland and possibly draw with Argentina, who are at the worst in a long time.

You guys need to remember that the 2018 Eagles were the most cohesive and happiest set in about the last 40 years.

In 2014, the team was going to the game against France fighting NFF about money. As at match day, players were still grumbling.

Rohr might still not have qualified in a group having Argentina, Bosnia and Iran.

joseph1013:

I have no doubt that Keshi would have qualified from that group.

Croatia was not spectacular in our game. Croatia grew into the tournament. Keshi would have won the match at best, and drawn at the worst, dispatched Iceland and possibly draw with Argentina, who are at the worst in a long time.

You guys need to remember that the 2018 Eagles were the most cohesive and happiest set in about the last 40 years.

In 2014, the team was going to the game against France fighting NFF about money. As at match day, players were still grumbling.

Rohr might still not have qualified in a group having Argentina, Bosnia and Iran.

komekn:


This regression is not unique to Nigeria but affects Africa as a whole. African football is regressing comparative to yester years.

Isaac Success is nowhere on the same level in comparison to say Yakubu Aiyegbeni. Look at the consistent goal scoring rate of for example Yakubu who played for multiple clubs in the EPL. Let's be real three seasons in the EPL and two goals is that outstanding to you.

He has a name tag of I play in the EPL but his goal return for a striker both in La Liga and the EPL has been abysmal.

How would you equate what some have called him Isaac Success and a few other pretenders as part of the ' The new Dawn of our future football ' that's a super delusional comedy of jokes. If that's the super future then it's going to be very dark as if NEPA have seized light permanently.

Can Success be compared to Nigerian strikers Yakubu, Yekini, Ikpeba in any way or form. Or let's talk African to bad boy Adebayor, Fred Kanoute, DD Drogba or Beni McCarthey, let's go further back Tony Yeboah. For goodness sake many many years ago an African won the balon dor. These are examples of African strikers and TOP OUTSTANDING TALENTS not wingers or other forward players.

There is general regression in the quality of players that are coming out Africa comparative to years back. That's a simple observation.

But let's talk about teenage or U21 talent it's established and proven by consistent top class performances in a very limited time span for all to see on the field of play.

With regards to your last question on what is talent❓ Talent is relative to circumstance. So one can say they are all talented in thier own right but with regards to being top class players in world football. Would you say they are ❓

Some may get there but right now there is a very long way to go.