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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:22pm On Nov 18, 2018
AIG07:
Of a truth SA are now our football rival.

Our pride is gone.

SMH.

Mourinho's first season in Manchester United was a success as it was full of trophies. But do you know what, Man U fans weren't satisfied with his style of football. They were complaining despite him getting results for them. They knew they were in a rebuilding stage but they understood the difference between Results and Progress. He was getting results but his team wasn't progressing... Guadiola on the other hand struggled to get result at first but his team was progressing... Today both sides are miles apart.

Recently Paul Scholes and other ex-manchester players have been complaining about same... I don't blame them. They are only demanding for more! The more some here think is too much to demand from Rohr and his team.

Sooner or later Rohr's results will vanish and we will be back to the drawing board as usual... We are no football minnows on the continent and if we must win or loose against any African sides we should do so with class and pride.


Rebuilding? Mourinho is just a Gernot Rohr 3.0. No more no less. He has failed to move with the current trends in soccer. His tactics is more reactionary than proactive. He sits and waits to see what his opposite number has in store for him before he deals. Unfortunately, this is why his team concedes early in games. He in his own case at least knows what to do to neutralize a threat. Gernot Rohr is clueless both in his line ups and his substitutions as well as his tactical nous.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:22pm On Nov 18, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


No one is saying Rohr should play to the gallery but for Christ sake, set up the team to have a little bit of bravery. It is not so long fake thugs last. We were outplayed in all factors of the game. Hiding behind we got results will not take us far when we meet a series of quality oppositions.

You can celebrate parking bus and docking our tails like scared kittens against a weakened South African side. Not me. We are well above that with our quality of talents.

Congrats we qualified but I will not fail to say we are way above that mediocre display we showed against South Africa.

Leave them, let them continue to praise mediocrity.

That is what they did when Rohr qualified us to the WC but went there to disgrace us. Since then, some of the praise-singers have still not recovered from the shocking and early exit.

I can beat my chest that this style of play will not take us past the second round in the nations cup. If we think the likes of morocco, Senegal, tunisia, egypt or even cameroon will let us get draws with shambolic performance, then we have another thing coming. I'm not just a fan of Rohr's style
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 10:23pm On Nov 18, 2018
Keshi drew Iran, he was lucky against Bosnia. He went to a world cup tournament with players like Gabriel, Uchebo etc. If you want to mention a good coach please do not call keshi. He was just a lucky coach. As much as I do not really like Rohr he has done a very good job.
No Mikel, no Moses, no Ndidi, no Ighalo, no Shehu, no Aina, no Ebuhei No Problem!

During Keshi time the bench were made up of suspect players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:37pm On Nov 18, 2018
So, All these naysayers (abi truthful people grin), what say ye? what do we do now after all your prophesies



laslas una know say your opinion begins and ends on this page but still you write long epistles. Ekaare o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:40pm On Nov 18, 2018
We have over flogged this Rhor issue on this thread I had promised myself I won't be adding an extra word to the insanity I have been reading here since yesterday.

Look Rohr is not perfect. He only needs to improve in reading the game as it unfolds before his eyes. In every other facet of managing a team he is good enough and so for me he is at the same level as the players he is managing.

His handicap may yet come to haunt us, this is a possibility if he doesn't improve but I think his good far out weighs his bad. We are lucky to have him right now. Every international coach needs at least 2 tournaments to be fairly judged. We'll see how we get on next year.

By the way why haven't Spurs sacked Pochenttino? His reading of games is just like Rohr's.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:47pm On Nov 18, 2018
Over two legs? I’m not even focusing on the results alone. Did you even watch those games?
chrisooblog:
put Senegal side by side with guinea, put Ghana side by side with Kenya who get talent pass but what was the result when they faced each other
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:52pm On Nov 18, 2018
Olympics nko?
tbaba1234:


It has to do with personal issues. Dalung was not happy that he was not involved in all the sponsorship deals in the run up to the World cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:06am On Nov 19, 2018
O pari! grin

kennysville:
I am no longer in the mood for long epistles. Nations cup is almost here. Then we will see what some of us already knew. And the fact is Rorh is clueless! Yes and lemme spell it ...... iN caps.... C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S.

If we really wanna be honest, we didnt fail to qualify for afcon on field of play per se. Like Joebie said, we lost because of NFF shenanigans. Many of us celebrate qualification ticket more than the actual Showpiece. Pray tell folks. OF what use is ur qualifying when you will still get to be playing boring matches at the Afcon or worldcup? Wouldnt it be beta u neva qualified in the first place? Why do you think its easier during qualifiers than actual tournaments? Simple. Its always a 2 legged affair. Unfortunately, our dinasaur gaffer will make the same mistake he made at the world cup. Dont be shocked. A word is enough for the wise
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:08am On Nov 19, 2018
This is her picture.

Uleko Agida representing the North Central Zone.

like and comment on her picture on instagram please.

see link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqR8kSvBmgF/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17vzwwpdtny74&fbclid=IwAR3wYaYgSNnvKdhYCS04IbOIJzM3pR73Y1Jjlb_oKIXQb5Hj3J9WY6ne3F8

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:28am On Nov 19, 2018
wayodude:
We have over flogged this Rhor issue on this thread I had promised myself I won't be adding an extra word to the insanity I have been reading here since yesterday.

Look Rohr is not perfect. He only needs to improve in reading the game as it unfolds before his eyes. In every other facet of managing a team he is good enough and so for me he is at the same level as the players he is managing.

His handicap may yet come to haunt us, this is a possibility if he doesn't improve but I think his good far out weighs his bad. We are lucky to have him right now. Every international coach needs at least 2 tournaments to be fairly judged. We'll see how we get on next year.

By the way why haven't Spurs sacked Pochenttino? His reading of games is just like Rohr's.

pochetino is a young manager and there's still room for him to improve.

Moreover, Spurs don't have a big squad, so his options are limited.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 4:48am On Nov 19, 2018
klexycole:
Abeg, where is Afobear?? shocked grin grin
Right here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IronGalaxy: 6:08am On Nov 19, 2018
The truth is the Super Eagles era ended with the likes if Kanu, Oliseh, Okocha, Taribo West etc. The current team is just overrated. Had South Africa had all of its players , we would have easily beaten Nigeria

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 6:22am On Nov 19, 2018
Averaaaaaaaæaaaægeeeeeeeeeeeeee team thinking the will win the Afcon with this averaaaaaaaæaaaægeeeeeeeeeeeeee team and averaaaaaaaæaaaægeeeeeeeeeeeeee coach ? Let me tell y'all beer parlour analyst,chances are higher that a catatonic wakes up than for this averaaaaaaaæaaaægeeeeeeeeeeeeee team to lift a spoon. With all joy will I celebrate when this bunch of overhyped twats gets ousted like the World cup and many of you here will develop Denial and unbelieve Syndrome once more . What haven't I seen here ffs ? Some drunk fellas saying Afor ano Kelechi Ihenancho is better than Kylian Mbappe (��) is banter for eons . Make una no worry,una eyes go clear soonest
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:38am On Nov 19, 2018
IronGalaxy:
The truth is the Super Eagles era ended with the likes if Kanu, Oliseh, Okocha, Taribo West etc. The current team is just overrated. Had South Africa had all of its players , we would have easily beaten Nigeria

Nigeria did not have all its players either and south africa were saved by poor referee calls. It is not as if the Nigerian keeper had much to do.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 6:39am On Nov 19, 2018
The 'Iheanacho is better than Mbappe' crew is not helping his career at all grin

See them saying he had a decent game when he was easily the worst player on the pitch

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 6:49am On Nov 19, 2018
Earthquake2:
The 'Iheanacho is better than Mbappe' crew is not helping his career at all grin

See them saying he had a decent game when he was easily the worst player on the pitch
That one na im vex me pass. Iheanacho is the worst of the worst, I've been shouting this since the pre-WC games. It's unbelievable that someone that calls himself a professional footballer cannot do something as elementary as trapping a ball!. Yet some peeps have the guts to praise him!. I'm sure Success or Onyekuru or even Chukwueze wouldn't have missed that begging chance.

Iheanacho has no business with our national team for now abeg.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:57am On Nov 19, 2018
Earthquake2:
The 'Iheanacho is better than Mbappe' crew is not helping his career at all grin

See them saying he had a decent game when he was easily the worst player on the pitch

Kelechi had a decent game. And i am not one to over praise him or compare him to Mbappe.

I thought, he made some very good contributions especially at the start of the game.

He was not spectacular but he was not as bad as suggested.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 7:17am On Nov 19, 2018
Curtisaxel7:

That one na im vex me pass. Iheanacho is the worst of the worst, I've been shouting this since the pre-WC games. It's unbelievable that someone that calls himself a professional footballer cannot do something as elementary as trapping a ball!. Yet some peeps have the guts to praise him!. I'm sure Success or Onyekuru or even Chukwueze wouldn't have missed that begging chance.

Iheanacho has no business with our national team for now abeg.
go and banish him from the national team If that will make you sleep well at night and save us from all your rants. If you can’t do that, abeg let us hear word.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Pavarotti: 7:23am On Nov 19, 2018
7 Expectations As Super Eagles Tackle Uganda



After their successful qualification for the 2019 AFCON in Cameroon courtesy of their 1 -1 draw with South Africa, the Eagles test their mettle against Uganda at the Stephen Keshi Stadium, Asaba on Tuesday

With qualification already in the bag and nothing to play for in the exhibition game, here are 7 things we expect to see


1. The Debut of Samuel Chukwueze
Nigerian soccer fans can’t wait to see new Villarreal Wonderkid Samuel Chukwueze make his eagles debut and will be expecting Rohr to parade the young man in the game against Uganda
Chukwueze is the hottest rave in Nigerian . . . . http://www.soccerassembly.com/7-expectations-super-eagles-tackle-uganda/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 7:24am On Nov 19, 2018
junnyjake:


pochetino is a young manager and there's still room for him to improve.

Moreover, Spurs don't have a big squad, so his options are limited.

Being young in management terms doesn't cut it as an excuse. He's been at spurs for 5yrs! And he didn't join them as a rookie manager did he? undecided

What the majority of Naija fans truely deserve is a manager who would call up a completely unheard of Gabriel Okechukwu for an important qualifier and give him the no.10 shirt for a country as big in the game as Nigeria and leaves him on the bench! Then when his team starts crumbling he doesn't have to have the balls to bring him on. Haha

They deserve a manager who would play Seth Sincere in the heart of defence in an important qualifier instead of several other defenders supposedly well ahead of him in the pecking order ....and drop points in the process.

They deserve mangers who would call up Igobun and Onobi and leave out Mikel and Ighalo, as our African guardiola once did. obvious choices abi?

They deserve foreign managers only interested in managing their team in the world cup for 3 games and after losing out don't even bother returning with the team.

Thank God for Pinnick. With the man being more clever than the majority of fans I can continue to trust him to continue protecting you from yourselves.

NB: this is not a Rohr manifesto, just a reminder of where we were not very long ago and where we are now.

*Drops the mic*

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:26am On Nov 19, 2018
fabyom:
Keshi drew Iran, he was lucky against Bosnia. He went to a world cup tournament with players like Gabriel, Uchebo etc. If you want to mention a good coach please do not call keshi. He was just a lucky coach. As much as I do not really like Rohr he has done a very good job.
No Mikel, no Moses, no Ndidi, no Ighalo, no Shehu, no Aina, no Ebuhei No Problem!

During Keshi time the bench were made up of suspect players.


I wanted to drop this but not anymore.

Musa scored a perfectly legal goal against Iran which was cancelled, how come you didn't mention that he was unlucky against Iran? We totally outplayed Bosnia. In fact in 90 full minutes Bosnia created only three chances of note, Ameobi after coming on and even Babatunde and Uzoenyi had decent chances in that game, we were the better team on the day and if Bosnia had scored trust me we would have still scored again, you all are making it sound as if it was a Chelsea vs Barcelona match, we played good football and deserved our luck totally. Against Argentina we lost, Argentina eventually got to the final. Bosnia were the first team to qualify for the WC in Europe then with the highest goalscorer during the qualifiers, yet we didn't just beat them, we outplayed them, forget results for now, I would recommend you watch that match again or maybe the highlights before talking again.

Now in 2018, the worst possible Argentine side that were sent to the cleaners by Croatia and yet we couldn't get a point off them. Aren't you also forgetting that Iceland missed a penalty? Isn't that also lucky? Croatia only won three games in regular time at the world cup, they were not better than Bosnia of 2014 yet we never even bothered them for 90 full minutes. See I don't like discrediting people, Rohr's team defeated Iceland and lost against the remaining teams. Keshi defeated Bosnia, drew against Iran and played well against Argentina, in fact I remember vividly that Mikel missed an easy header that would have dragged us level in that game, is that not bad luck? But at least we lost fighting. Then did you watch the match against France? Brilliant football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:33am On Nov 19, 2018
tbaba1234:


Kelechi had a decent game. And i am not one to over praise him or compare him to Mbappe.

I thought, he made some very good contributions especially at the start of the game.

He was not spectacular but he was not as bad as suggested.

Aside from the through pass to Musa ,Kelechi contributed nothing whether offensively or defensively to the team

It was so bad that South African defenders bypassed him and Iwobi had to leave the middle and press the defenders which left the midfield open

It was when Success came in that we had a breath of fresh air, Check yourself maybe you have been influenced by 'Iheanacho is better than Mbappe crew'
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:44am On Nov 19, 2018
IronGalaxy:
The truth is the Super Eagles era ended with the likes if Kanu, Oliseh, Okocha, Taribo West etc. The current team is just overrated. Had South Africa had all of its players , we would have easily beaten Nigeria
Bafana Bafana ended with the likes of Pienaar, Zuma, Novemthe, Old John Mabizela, etc.
We were missing Mikel, Moses, Ighalo in the first leg and Ndidi, Mikel, Moses(retired), Shehu, Tyrone, etc.
I don't why some of you are celebrating not beating a team that had only 3 CM in Ogu, Etebo and Agu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:47am On Nov 19, 2018
Cc tbaba: I had to check whether I was being biased against the young lad

Fans Slam Kelechi Iheanacho For Poor Showing Against South Africa
http://www.soccerassembly.com/fans-slam-kelechi-iheanacho-poor-showing-south-africa/#respond


Leicester city striker Kelechi Iheanacho has been receiving a lot of stick from some Nigerian fans for what is perceived as a very woeful display in the Super Eagles 1 -1 draw with South Africa on Saturday

The Super Eagles qualified for the 2019 AFCON with a game to spare with a commendable 1 -1 draw with South Africa at the FNB stadium in Johannesburg and while the team was decent and did just enough to ensure qualification Iheanacho was singled out for his poor performance

With Super Eagles first choice striker Odion Ighalo out with an Injury Iheanacho got the nod to start in attack alongside Ahmed Musa

Iheanacho who was once the preferred option to lead the Eagles attack was handed a rare chance to again stack a claim for the spot but failed to capitalize on the opportunity

The highlight of his performance was when the 22 year old found himself free in the 18 yard box with a chance to put Nigeria ahead but scoffed the chance with a very poor first touch

Fans took to social media to express their disappointment with some going as far as suggesting the Leicester star be dropped from the team completely

Below are some comments from Fans


Temisan Okomi
@temiokomi
Kelechi Iheanacho is getting worse. The regression is frightening to see...
214
2:42 PM - Nov 17, 2018

ChrisBest Oguguo
@ChrisTYOgu
If we're honest, Iheanacho has regressed...and badly too. What happened to him?
72
2:47 PM - Nov 17, 2018


Michael Oti Adjei

@OtiAdjei
Iheanacho with what Mark Gleeson calls a "tennis racket touch" to let Bafana off the hook.

Big chance.
208
2:39 PM - Nov 17, 2018

Dozie Owums
@DizzieBillion
Look at iheanacho, my goodness, if I say that poor ist touch now, d will say I don't like him
2:39 PM - Nov 17, 2018


Olaleye Dada
@olaleyedada
If it was an Npfl player that had a poor first touch like Iheanacho, some of you will write an epistle on why Npfl players are useless and have poor technique.
I Dey here dey observe
133
3:04 PM - Nov 17, 2018

Ediye

@iamOkon
Kelechi Iheanacho has moved from a promising young footballer to a poor footballer. Completely off form and struggling at the minute.
62
2:57 PM - Nov 17, 2018
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:18am On Nov 19, 2018
kennysville:
I am no longer in the mood for long epistles. Nations cup is almost here. Then we will see what some of us already knew. And the fact is Rorh is clueless! Yes and lemme spell it ...... iN caps.... C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S.

If we really wanna be honest, we didnt fail to qualify for afcon on field of play per se. Like Joebie said, we lost because of NFF shenanigans. Many of us celebrate qualification ticket more than the actual Showpiece. Pray tell folks. OF what use is ur qualifying when you will still get to be playing boring matches at the Afcon or worldcup? Wouldnt it be beta u neva qualified in the first place? Why do you think its easier during qualifiers than actual tournaments? Simple. Its always a 2 legged affair. Unfortunately, our dinasaur gaffer will make the same mistake he made at the world cup. Dont be shocked. A word is enough for the wise

Sir, since its quite obvious you know it all, kindly enlighten us on the way forward. Based on the fact that you can see into the future, how do we go about the nations cup tournament? How does Rohr get it as he has no clue?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:30am On Nov 19, 2018
Earthquake2:
Cc tbaba: I had to check whether I was being biased against the young lad

Fans Slam Kelechi Iheanacho For Poor Showing Against South Africa
http://www.soccerassembly.com/fans-slam-kelechi-iheanacho-poor-showing-south-africa/#respond


Leicester city striker Kelechi Iheanacho has been receiving a lot of stick from some Nigerian fans for what is perceived as a very woeful display in the Super Eagles 1 -1 draw with South Africa on Saturday

The Super Eagles qualified for the 2019 AFCON with a game to spare with a commendable 1 -1 draw with South Africa at the FNB stadium in Johannesburg and while the team was decent and did just enough to ensure qualification Iheanacho was singled out for his poor performance

With Super Eagles first choice striker Odion Ighalo out with an Injury Iheanacho got the nod to start in attack alongside Ahmed Musa

Iheanacho who was once the preferred option to lead the Eagles attack was handed a rare chance to again stack a claim for the spot but failed to capitalize on the opportunity

The highlight of his performance was when the 22 year old found himself free in the 18 yard box with a chance to put Nigeria ahead but scoffed the chance with a very poor first touch

Fans took to social media to express their disappointment with some going as far as suggesting the Leicester star be dropped from the team completely

Below are some comments from Fans


Temisan Okomi
@temiokomi
Kelechi Iheanacho is getting worse. The regression is frightening to see...
214
2:42 PM - Nov 17, 2018

ChrisBest Oguguo
@ChrisTYOgu
If we're honest, Iheanacho has regressed...and badly too. What happened to him?
72
2:47 PM - Nov 17, 2018


Michael Oti Adjei

@OtiAdjei
Iheanacho with what Mark Gleeson calls a "tennis racket touch" to let Bafana off the hook.

Big chance.
208
2:39 PM - Nov 17, 2018

Dozie Owums
@DizzieBillion
Look at iheanacho, my goodness, if I say that poor ist touch now, d will say I don't like him
2:39 PM - Nov 17, 2018


Olaleye Dada
@olaleyedada
If it was an Npfl player that had a poor first touch like Iheanacho, some of you will write an epistle on why Npfl players are useless and have poor technique.
I Dey here dey observe
133
3:04 PM - Nov 17, 2018

Ediye

@iamOkon
Kelechi Iheanacho has moved from a promising young footballer to a poor footballer. Completely off form and struggling at the minute.
62
2:57 PM - Nov 17, 2018

I said it here not too long ago. Leaving Man city was a big error. Who is he learning from in Leicester?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 8:37am On Nov 19, 2018
Truidstar:
I said it here not too long ago. Leaving Man city was a big error. Who is he learning from in Leicester?

Jamie Vardy, that's if he wants to learn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 8:43am On Nov 19, 2018
IronGalaxy:
The truth is the Super Eagles era ended with the likes if Kanu, Oliseh, Okocha, Taribo West etc. The current team is just overrated. Had South Africa had all of its players , we would have easily beaten Nigeria
who are the players, Icardi, Kante, Benny mcarthy? grin cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:46am On Nov 19, 2018
TheSupernerd, I keep asking u if we are in the New dawn yet and you have been shifting that dawn. And have been waiting and waiting to declare that "New Dawn".

Guess what, some of us have been waiting and expecting that New dawn for the past 20years! (1998 to be precise). grin

We are no longer that dominant force that we used to be. Yes, we have a very rich pedigree but we must also realize that it is no longer business as usual. Nigeria is no longer much better than teams like SA, Congo DR, Mali, Guinea, and the likes. And we arguably can only rub shoulders with likes of CIV, Senegal, Morocco, Egypt.

For those that expected us to have over run SA in Jo' burg you need to have a rethink. The current squad is not even as gifted as the squad we had from 2002 to 2010 era, which to me was our last generation of SUPER Eagles. Just compare position by position including the 3 choice goalies and u will realize. What we have now are a group of mostly young talented players who we hope will with time start delivering the goods.

I do not belong to the group that excessively hype players neither do I belong to the group that Pull down players. The earlier we realize that we are not that dominant force we used to be in the 1990s and 2000s the better for us.

Yes, we are on a building or rebuilding process, just like have been since 1998, and so we need to be patient with the team.

And on Rohr, we all know he is not much gifted tactically. Such is for so many coaches. The NFF had to employ Bonfere Jo as a personal tactician to Westerhoff. So many here call Rohr ''White Onigbinde'' but I see him more as ''white Amodu''. The simple philosophy that guides such a coach is ''if you cannot win do not lose''. Just like Amodu, Rohr took over the coaching position and unlike most other coaches, he started with the already existing squad and started getting results while the gradual injection of New blood with time. Some call it conservatism but I call it building with stability . Some here even once called Rohr a white version of Icon4s grin. And I have adviced a couple of smart analysts here before to go for Basic coaching certificates and that will make them see things not only as critics but also as coaches. They used to call me a conservatist until they met Rohr grin TheGoodJoe and TheSuperNerd how far? grin

To be candid this is one of Rohr's thinnest squads he has ever paraded. We were so unlucky with the wrong calls by the officials especially that 2nd goal which could have been the decider. What I will say is lets be patient with Rohr, he looks like someone still on the learning curve. He has managed to give us the AFCON ticket with a game to spare even after losing our first game. Those that have criticized him have every Right to do so just like those who have hailed him. We know Rohr is not an excellent tactician but he has continued to deliver which is the ultimate yardstick to judge a coach.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 9:02am On Nov 19, 2018
Cc Icon4s Rohr is not an excellent technician but a great man-manager

Rohr has been able to hold the team together without news of player-player rift or player-manager rift

Those that have been relegated from the team have gone to the background without grumbling and those who have in the bench have waiting patiently

Lastly he has been happy to operate in a highly corrupt Nigerian environment and the players have been happy to play under him. If you think that doesn't win you trophies ask Zidane cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:02am On Nov 19, 2018
Icon4s:
TheSupernerd, I keep asking u if we are in the New dawn yet and you have been shifting that dawn. And have been waiting and waiting to declare that "New Dawn".

Guess what, some of us have been waiting and expecting that New dawn for the past 20years! (1998 to be precise). grin

We are no longer that dominant force that we used to be. Yes, we have a very rich pedigree but we must also realize that it is no longer business as usual. Nigeria is no longer much better than teams like SA, Congo DR, Mali, Guinea, and the likes. And we arguably can only rub shoulders with likes of CIV, Senegal, Morocco, Egypt.

For those that expected us to have over run SA in Jo' burg you need to have a rethink. The current squad is not as gifted as the squad we had from 2002 to 2010 era, which to me was our last generation of SUPER Eagles. Just compare position by position including the 3 choice goalies and u will realize. What we have now are a group of mostly young talented players who we hope will with time start delivering the goods.

I do not belong to the group that excessively hype players neither do I belong to the group that Pull down players. The earlier we realize that we are not that dominant force we used to be in the 1990s and 2000s the better for us.

Yes, we are on a building or rebuilding process, just like have been since 1998, and so we need to be patient with team.

And on Rohr, we all know he is not much gifted tactically. Such is for so many coaches. The NFF had to employ Bonfere Jo as a personal tactician to Westerhoff. So many here call Rohr ''White Onigbinde'' but I see him more as ''white Amodu''. The simple philosophy that guides such a coach is ''if you cannot win do not lose''. Just like Amodu, Rohr took over the coaching position and unlike most other coaches, he started with the already existing squad and started getting results while the gradual injection of New blood with time. Some call it conservatism but I call it building with stability . Some here even once called Rohr a white version of Icon4s grin. And I have adviced a couple of smart analysts here before to go for Basic coaching certificates and that will make them see things not only as critics but also as coaches. They used to call me a conservatist until they met Rohr grin

To be candid this is one of Rohr's thinnest squads he has ever paraded. We were so unlucky with the wrong calls by the officials especially that 2nd goal which could have been the decider. What I will say is lets be patient with Rohr, he looks like someone still on the learning curve. He has managed to give us the AFCON ticket with a game to spare even after losing our first game. Those that have criticized him have every Right to do so just like those who have hailed him. We know Rohr is not an excellent tactician but he has continued to deliver which is the ultimate yardstick to judge a coach.



Boss, learning curve after three years? At the World Cup your excuse was 'he is still building', now we are getting even worse and you have reversed to 'he is getting results', so after building for the past 3 years all he can manage to do is to 'get results'? By 1993 Westerhof's team was playing brilliant football, I remember asking Sia1 something about that and he told me that by 92 everybody already knew what to do, when you come to camp the coach will just perfect what you had already learnt, if after three years(with a proper tournament in between which affords coaches enough time to train their players) we are still playing without any identity then we haven't built anything. You do know that if Rohr gets sacked that a new coach will have to start from the scratch, because no good coach will adopt this playing method, what then have we built? Klinsman left Germany and Leow came in and continued the same pattern, in that case you can say Klinsman built something, this coach that took Argentina to the final of the 2014 WC left, Martino came in and continued his philosophy and Argentina almost won a Copa, sadly these have been three wasted years, yes we have made it to the WC and the AFCON but what will be the benefit in the long run?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 9:04am On Nov 19, 2018
fabyom:
Keshi drew Iran, he was lucky against Bosnia. He went to a world cup tournament with players like Gabriel, Uchebo etc. If you want to mention a good coach please do not call keshi. He was just a lucky coach. As much as I do not really like Rohr he has done a very good job.
No Mikel, no Moses, no Ndidi, no Ighalo, no Shehu, no Aina, no Ebuhei No Problem!

During Keshi time the bench were made up of suspect players.
God bless u

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