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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 11:24am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2:Could not remember this |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:29am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2:Remember when I was specific? Need I remind of Pre-WC/WC proper games? What was the noise everywhere? Was it not how we are a second-half team? Now tell me since Rohr came what games have been important. Qualifiers, Friendlies (with Europeans) and Tournament proper If those are the games they are not 20. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:35am On Nov 19, 2018 |
junnyjake: Okay then help us widen the pool of better coaches who are available and willing to come to manage Nigeria and also review the finances involved in bringing that special manager here. When you're done let's discuss our options again. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:37am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2: How many of those players in the last competitive game before Rohr started against South Africa? Also how many of those players from the last competitive fixture before Rohr will start against Uganda? We had the youngest team in the world cup didn't we? Rohr has built the team we have today and is still building. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:43am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Odunayaw: I thought you were following our conversation, my apologies then. But still, I am not sure you should have used just three games to negate what I said. Anyways if you count friendlies against Europeans then it is approximately 20 like I said. 6 games in the WC qualifiers(let us leave out the first match against Tanzania), then the friendlies against Poland, Serbia, England, Argentina and(I can't remember the last team), that is 4, plus 3 games in the WC proper, that's 13 plus the five we have played now so 18. You just countered my points without actual checking them |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:43am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Samueltemi337:Musa had a header disallowed against Iran. Oh and Emenike was the one who had a goal disallowed against France |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 11:43am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Then and now: Kelechi iheanacho and Isaac success |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:44am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Pavarotti: Just to bring some context and prevent us going down the over hype route again. Does anybody know how many games this Wonder Kid has played for the first team at Villareal❓❓ What makes him so wonderful in the context of world football not local. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:46am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Icon4s: Since 1998?? Haba naa... The golden generation was still around then but fell into dark hours that we remained in till we saw a bit of the light again in 2013 under the late legendary Keshi (bless his soul). Besides in 1998 I had not even began following the Beautiful game. I began my football journey in 1999 just before my 7th birthday. My senior bro drew me in when I saw loads of football information in the sports archives section of his mini library. What I saw on Nigerian football history got me started. It wowed me and my journey began... For me the coming of a new dawn and rise of a potential 2nd Golden Generation became strong in me from 2013 after our Afcon triumph coupled with the success of the Golden Eaglets Class of 2013 that saw a bonafide young squad of gifted Nigerians storm their way to the world title in the most dominant fashion, style and performances you would see from an U-17 team in FIFA history. So I say again Dad, The dawn is near. The stars are beginning to align and fall in some pleasant places but we are still a few moments off that bright dawn... What I see now is just sprinkles of dim light in the distance but bright, it is not... It is not eureka yet. Give it a bit more time... ![]() On the comparison between thy Legendary Conservatism and the truly legendary and natural conservatism of Gernot Rohr.... I can only say that time will tell whose conservatism surpasses the other and leave its marks in the sands of time. You get your own... But Rohr get him own. You say some call Rohr, a white version of you? Chineke! That is really sad ooo... because they also call him White Onigbinde....Bia Dad, are you saying that you, Rohr and Onigbinde are interconnected in a conservatism triangle?? Abeg who specifically label Rohr as White Icon4s? Nna eh... Na wa... Well... My hands no dey on thy conservatism matter again because I don accept am but on Rohr, I am truly concerned because he sits in the position that directly determines how the direction of this new rising generation will go. It is majorly in his hands that this generation can become Golden or not... And I pray he lives up to expectations or even surpasses them and use his conservatism wisely for the best of the team. Yes, Rohr is conservative and I want him to be much more dynamic but I must remind us all that his stubborn resilience and conservatism have transformed Ighalo into a feared No 9 all of a sudden after the WC debacle amd the top ranking marksman in the Entire Afcon Qualifiers... No one will cry foul on seeing Ighalo on the team sheet again because the man is in great form now and has become a lethal weapon for the Super Eagles as our undisputed top 9. It is in times like this, we must take a step back and soft-pedal a bit on the knocks on Rohr's conservatism bcoz without it... There would be no In-form Ighalo today. But in all, the dawn is near... But not yet come in full... So just.... 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:49am On Nov 19, 2018 |
wayodude: ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:49am On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: Is he not a remarkable prospect? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:51am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2: You do realise when one is credited as building a team it does not mean he 'discovered' all the players in the team right? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:52am On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: Will you shut your mouth and stop yapping nonsense for once about any Indigenous born Nigerian talent?? How many games this!! How many games that!!! A lad with 2 goals and an assist and two MOTM awards in six senior games for Villarreal this season in all competitions!!! A lad who only made his debut for Villarreal B in April this year and has risen so fast to the first Team of Villarreal!!! A lad that even La Liga have recognised officially among their best young players!!! Komekn, seriously shut your mouth!! What rubbish! Your odourous comments subtly playing down the talents of just about any Indigenous-naija born soccer talent is becoming really mega-stinky by the passing attoseconds!!! Nonsense! You must be as blind as the refs on Saturday that you cannot even spot a genuine talent already recognised by la Liga... Don't be like Gassama and his assistants as depicted below!! 9 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:53am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Icon4s: This is at the heart of the problem, limited quality but them that should translate to more opportunity. Some people are looking at players from the perspective of past youthful glories as the basis for a call up. We need to look for more quality not just potential but proven quality. In this regard I can not understand why Ebere Eze was not invited, we have a snail pace approach. We lack quality is that not reason enough to invite more players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:58am On Nov 19, 2018 |
wayodude: That's why l asked the question ![]() It's simplistic what makes him so wonderful? How many La Liga games has he played and possibly goals scored. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Samueltemi337:Emenike not V.Moses. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 12:09pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: He is a huge potential albeit at the beginning of his career. I can understand the excitement of fans waiting to see him play in flesh. He cannot be placed in the same category as the majority of players of his age and background. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:11pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2: Can you compare this main core with the Old main core that Westerhorf inherited from the 1980s?: Keshi, Okechukwu, Iroha and Eguavoen (which was our regular back 4) then Eziugo, Siasia, Yekini, not forgetting Peter Rufai, . Come to even think of the then post 80 inclusions in: Amokachi, Nwannu, Oliha, Finidi, Amuneke, Oliseh and Okocha. It is largely unfair to make comparisons between Westerhof's and Rohr's Teams. When Westrehof went to Zimbabwe how did he perform? Our U23 team even trashed his team 4-0 in Lagos. And to my night. Not particularly pleasant as our Girls disgraced us. I woke up this morning and the memory of that lose just spoilt my mood. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:19pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
wayodude: Your position is clear. However, With respect you haven't answered my question, l asked to be informed or educated if you like. Now indulge me, have you seen him play live and or in training to make you conclude so strongly. Please under pin your position with stats. When you say HUGE I presume you are talking not locally but in the context of world football. That's a resounding commendation so it should not be difficult to substantiate your view. So he should be doing really consistent outstanding continous top class performances in La Liga. Let's be specifc how many games has he played in La Liga ❓ goals to assists, etc |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:20pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
COOL10: There is nothing that she would have added that is not there already. 3 coaches have now passed on her so it is time to look in the mirror. I always believed Dedevbo when he said she wasn't up to scratch but people got mischievous and started calling him racist. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 12:21pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
wayodude: No wahala! U will be singing a different tune this time next year |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:25pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
You are right Marvellous Basco. Sophia Omidiji won't even make the team's bench. I have seen her play a couple times and I gotta tell ya, her popularity is only because she is fair, gets invited for events and was outspoken about wanting to play for Nigeria rather than USA. She is a nice jovial lady but nothing close to the quality that can make our Falcons soar. BascoVanVeli: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:26pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Do you know that in the mid 2000s we had the best assemblage of players in Africa. That was a Golden Generation that won nothing, Just like Drogba's generation. Look at our 2006 AFCON Squad:! Vincent Enyeama Joseph Yobo Taye Taiwo Nwankwo Kanu Chidi Odiah Joseph Enakarhire John Utaka John Obi Mikel Obafemi Martins Jay-Jay Okocha Garba Lawal Austin Ejide Ayila Yussuf Victor Obinna Nsofor Paul Obiefule Wilson Oruma Julius Aghahowa Christian Obodo Stephen Makinwa Peter Odemwingie Obinna Nwaneri Sani Kaita Dele Aiyenugba All these Players above (except Mikel, Taiwo and Nsofor who were just coming up and just graduated to the Super Eagles) were at the prime of their careers. They were mostly regulars in their respective clubs in Europe and I need not roll out the intimidating list of clubs. I don't think up any 2 of the current squad can make the starting 11 of that team. My point is if it is the emergence of talented or quality players we have always had them. That 2000s set never really had quality coaches which was responsible for the inconsistencies in their performance, even missing out on the 2006 WC. There is nothing you saw with the 2013 Eaglets that I didn't see with the 1993 Eaglets. Haha, make u no grow old while waiting for that 2nd Golden Generation o. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 12:28pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: I am talking neither in the context of local nor world football. My description is in line with the views of the the media covering la liga, who i strongly believe have seen more of him than you and I. No? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/4622924 You watch more la liga than Guillem Balague? If Balague thinks he's exciting perhaps Najia fans can be forgiven for feeling the same? Pick your battles bro. This one will not fly. Hope i have adequately informed and educated you as requested. 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 12:28pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Truidstar: Thanks for your observation with regards that i know it all. Highly flattered...but no thanks! Nations cup is almost here. We will be here. Then I will answer you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 12:29pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
kennysville: Surely you can do better than resorting to doom and gloom predictions? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:30pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
I am aware of the potentials of the 2000s as I spoke briefly about that period in my reply to DaveP but we failed to even qualify for the 2006 WC with those guys. We failed and kept on failing. They were exciting but not close to being Golden.... That was just a phase we were managing until we finally hit the bulls' eye in 2013. The team of 2013 beat CIV's golden generation and now the rise and continued maturity of all the talents we are witnessing today points to something more beautiful than the 2000s if only managed well enough. How is a team's greatness measured? By the stardust quality present or by its achievements? The class of 2013 were looking less in quality compared to the earlier 2000s squads but they gave us a third Afcon silencing CIV's dreaded Golden Generation along the way. Finally, what you saw with the class of 93 eventually gave us an Olympic Gold medal beating World Champs Brazil with Best player Ronaldo de Lima and beating Argentina... That class produced something and could have even gone on to conquer Africa in 1996. Now if you same thing with the class of 2013 and beyond then it means something good is indeed coming. The 93 class contributed to the first Golden Generation too... Icon4s: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:30pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
wayodude: Believe me, even as a critic of Rohr, I'm finding it difficult to be definite when calling for his sack. Because pinnick in recent times has shown that his choices are to be questioned. If we're to continue with Rohr, a technical assistant should be employed to support him. We've seen Keshi/Okpala worked and when the partnership was broken, we paid for it. Siasia/Kalika worked too. Man management won't take us far. But guess what? Pinnick would be waiting for Salisu Yusuf on completion of his ban to continue as Rohr's assistant. Football self No de sweet me like before again, I might just want to take a break, because these things annoys me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 12:33pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Mickael2: God bless you for this beautiful post |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:33pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Let me be frank with you. I never saw a future in that 2013 AFCON Team. The team just hit gear when it was required and we won the AFCON. What happened immediately after the WC? We lost to Congo 2-3 in Uyo and finally could not make it to defend the next AFCON. Please go back to that comment u quoted this comment from. I made some additions. Thanks. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:35pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: As a kid who just got promoted to the first team, he has contributed about 3 goals in just 5-6 games to his team. He's coming up. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 12:35pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
komekn: Not a hype, the lad is just having his first real moment of publicity. The question of 'if' is still hanging on balance. It is not just Nigeria or Rohr, it is universal something, you get? I can give you 100's surging wonderkids that are enjoying this privilege just as Samuel. It might interest you to know that Timothy weah has more national appearance than his league outings. Ben Woodburn of Liverpool nko? What of your dear Sancho who has not played up to 30 league matches but has played for England? I can go on till day break. Just chill down, let the boy enjoy his moment. 1 Like |
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