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God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 5:32pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
We are currently in Iron-age which our Holy Bible foretold. It is called iron age because much of the metals we use today are iron. Eg: ship, tanks, planes, vehicles , buildings, etc. Jesus will appear at this age (Iron-age) according to the prophesy. Iron age Prophesy In the book of Daniel chapter 6 God gave king of Babylon a dream. The dream was about the end of his empire and the beginning of new World-ruling Empires. No one could interpret the dream except Prophet Daniel. Daniel Interpretation of the Dream. ( Full story: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+2&version=NIV ) “Your majesty looked and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. — The head of the statue was made of pure gold, — its chest and arms of silver, — its belly and thighs of bronze, — its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold. — “After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. — Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. — Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay. “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces. “The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”
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Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 5:42pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
The 3rd Empire Greece used mostly Bronze. Article on Greece bronze age: https://www.ancient-greece.org/history/bronze-age.html |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by SEGLIZ: 7:14pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
no Nigerian would believe you they would rather join an atikulated truck than travel in the bus of salvation. God has said it that we suffer for lack of knowledge. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." Hosea 4:6 |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by SEGLIZ: 7:15pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
OpenYourEyes1: this spiritual than the physical. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 8:25pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Wrong!!! We’re in the jet age. The iron age refers to prehistoric times. Get your facts right before you start talking |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 10:00pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
How long did the Roman Empire last? Why didn't it foresee the British Empire, the largest empire by territory in the history of man? What of the Umayyad dynasty, didn't foresee that one either. Of what use is a prophecy that gets so many things wrong? |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Anas09: 11:15pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
mrAMG:What is Jet Age pls? |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 11:16pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
mrAMG: There is no metal called Jet. Iron is still very much in used today than any other metals. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 11:23pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
LordReed: Umayyad dynasty is not a World-ruling empire. The prophesy is very specific. Britain (Saxon) was part of 10 barbarian tribes that divided Rome. Its is technically a Roman Kingdom. The 10 tribes represent the 10 toes of the statue. 1. Germans (Alemania) 2. English (Saxon) 3. French (Franks) 4. Spanish (Visigoth) 5. Swiss (Burgundian) 6. Italian (Lomberd) 7. Portuguese (Suebi) 8. Ostrogoths ❌ 9. Vandals❌ 10. Heruli❌ Three of the tribal Kingdoms are now extinct(they were destroyed by pope for being rebellious) which was further prophesied in Daniel 7 |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 12:33am On Nov 19, 2018 |
OpenYourEyes1: Daniel Vision of Four Beasts (Daniel chapter 7) Excerpt: “After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. [b] “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully." Full prophesy: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+7&version=NIV * 1st Beast: Lion with wings (Babylon) * 2nd Beast: Bear (Media & Persia) * 3rd Beast: Leopard (Greece) * 4th Beast: strange/diverse animal (Rome/Europe) |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 4:49am On Nov 19, 2018 |
OpenYourEyes1: The Umayyad dynasty was bigger than the Babylonian empire at its height so what world ruling are you talking about? Even Cyrus as great as he was did not have the reach of the Umayyad dynasty and Cyrus was greater than Nebuchadnezzar. Besides the British had nothing to do with the fall of Rome. Rome basically withdrew from Britain so the idea that the British are an offshoot of Roman is a farfetched fantasy. And it would be more than 1000years after Rome that British power will peak. Consider that the so called prophecy says Nebuchadnezzar was the the greatest king meanwhile Cyrus was greater than him Alexander was greater than him, the Umayyad dynasty was greater, the Mongols, another unforeseen empire, was greater than him. The prophecy did not get even this detail right yet you repose confidence in it even with the benefit of hindsight. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by OpenYourEyes1: 7:28am On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed: I strongly believe Babylon was the World-ruling empire. It defeated/conquered almighty Assyria and Egyptian Empire. A kingdom that achieved this feat could have easily been a world empire. Imagine what would happen if China conquers USA & Russia. Britain was pretty much a Catholic kindom under Roman pope until the protestantism/reformation. Rome has not really fallen. It's currently in divided state (European Nations). Hitler and many others tried to unite it but failed just as prophesied [ "As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will join together by intermarrying; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay." Daniel 2:43] Note that Nazi salute is a Roman salute which is a sign of allegiance to the Roman Empire. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 8:22am On Nov 19, 2018 |
OpenYourEyes1: By what measure was Babylon a world ruling empire? It didn't conquer Europe, didn't conquer a vast majority of African Empires, didn't conquer India, didn't conquer China or Russia so what world was it ruling? Britain was never part of the Holy Roman Empire so what are you talking about? Nor was it a part of the Western arm of the remains of the Roman Empire. So tell me why the prophecy failed to anticipate the Mongols? The largest contiguous empire in history. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 2:42pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
OpenYourEyes1:very true |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 2:57pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed:the issue is not which kingdom is bigger or not. the prophecy concerns kingdoms that ruled over israel and so far only six has ruled over israel and they are 1. Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4. Persia 5 . Greece 6. Rome *7. re born Roman empire ( europe) *yet to to have full control but will do so through the new world order, creating a one world totalitarian government* |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 3:11pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
the Roman Catholic Church is an offshoot of the Roman empire. she will play a very big role ( as the signs are already glaring) in making the new world order a full reality, uniting christendom like the ecumenical movement and charismatic and finally crowning the antichrist as lord of all. America on the other hand is just a puppet to fund the new world order and to brain wash people ( dumb them down) through the media and whorely wood. the true aim is to establish the antichristian government on earth. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 3:20pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
solite3: The Umayyads ruled over Israel, the Ottomans ruled over Israel so why didn't the prophecy anticipate them? They were also greater than the Babylonian Empire so don't tell me they are not "world ruling". |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 3:25pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
solite3: If the British Empire was still intact you'd be saying the same thing about it instead of America. You guys are just shoehorning events in with the benefit of hindsight. Some people even said the UN is the anticipated one world government but now that it didn't do what they thought they've now switched to America. Soon it'll be China. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 4:22pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed:the nation Israel ceased to exist after the destruction of Jerusalem by titus. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 4:27pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed:yes Britain played her role and still playing it, the UN is not the one world but although part of the new world other. who switched to America? eruope has always been the direction. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 4:37pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
solite3: LoL oh so now that's the dodge.you want to use abi. Ok tell me at which point did the so called fractured Roman Empire rule the nation of Israel? Since by your reckoning Israel ceased to exist under Roman rule. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 9:20pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed:read this, A brief history of Israel and the Jews Quote from Charles Krauthammer - The Weekly Standard, May 11, 1998 "Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store." The people of Israel (also called the "Jewish People" ![]() The name Israel derives from the name given to Jacob (Genesis 32:29). His 12 sons were the kernels of 12 tribes that later developed into the Jewish nation. The name Jew derives from Yehuda (Judah) one of the 12 sons of Jacob (Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Yehuda, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Yisachar, Zevulun, Yosef, Binyamin)(Exodus 1:1). So, the names Israel, Israeli or Jewish refer to people of the same origin. The descendants of Abraham crystallized into a nation at about 1300 BCE after their Exodus from Egypt under the leadership of Moses (Moshe in Hebrew). Soon after the Exodus, Moses transmitted to the people of this newly emerging nation, the Torah, and the Ten Commandments (Exodus Chapter 20). After 40 years in the Sinai desert, Moses led them to the Land of Israel, that is cited in The Bible as the land promised by G-d to the descendants of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Genesis 17: ![]() The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham (ca. 1800 BCE). Thus, Jews have had a continuous presence in the land of Israel for the past 3,300 years. The rule of Israelites in the land of Israel starts with the conquests of Joshua (ca. 1250 BCE). The period from 1000-587 BCE is known as the "Period of the Kings". The most noteworthy kings were King David (1010-970 BCE), who made Jerusalem the Capital of Israel, and his son Solomon (Shlomo, 970-931 BCE), who built the first Temple in Jerusalem as prescribed in the Tanach (Old Testament). In 587 BCE, Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar's army captured Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and exiled the Jews to Babylon (modern day Iraq). The year 587 BCE marks a turning point in the history of the region. From this year onwards, the region was ruled or controlled by a succession of superpower empires of the time in the following order: Babylonian, Persian, Greek Hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine Empires, Islamic and Christian crusaders, Ottoman Empire, and the British Empire. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 9:23pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
See Maps of Ancient Empires in the Near East . Foreign Empires that ruled in Israel Period Empire Major Events 587 BCE Babylonian Destruction of the first Temple. 538-333 BCE Persian Return of the exiled Jews from Babylon and construction of the second Temple (520-515 BCE). 333-63 BCE Hellenistic Conquest of the region by the army of Alexander the Great (333 BCE). The Greeks generally allowed the Jews to run their state. But, during the rule of the king Antiochus IV, the Temple was desecrated. This brought about the revolt of the Maccabees, who established an independent rule. The related events are celebrated during the Hanukah holiday . 63 BCE-313 CE Roman The Roman army led by Titus conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple at 70 CE. Jewish people were then exiled and dispersed to the Diaspora. In 132, Bar Kokhba organized a revolt against Roman rule, but was killed in a battle in Bethar in Judean Hills. Subsequently, the Romans decimated the Jewish community, renamed Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina and Judea as Palaestina to obliterate Jewish identification with the Land of Israel (the word Palestine, and the Arabic word Filastin originate from this Latin name). The remaining Jewish community moved to northern towns in the Galilee. Around 200 CE the Sanhedrin was moved to Tsippori (Zippori, Sepphoris) . The Head of Sanhedrin, Rabbi Yehuda HaNassi (Judah the Prince), compiled the Jewish oral law, Mishna. 313-636 Byzantine 636-1099 Arab Dome of the Rock was built by Caliph Abd el-Malik on the grounds of the destroyed Jewish Temple. 1099-1291 Crusaders The crusaders came from Europe to capture the Holy Land following an appeal by Pope Urban II, and massacred the non-Christian population. Later, Jewish community in Jerusalem expanded by immigration of Jews from Europe. 1291-1516 Mamluk 1516-1918 Ottoman During the reign of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (1520-1566) the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem were rebuilt. The population of the Jewish community in Jerusalem increased. 1917-1948 British Great Britain recognized the rights of the Jewish people to establish a " national home in Palestine ". Yet they greatly curtailed entry of Jewish refugees into Israel even after World War II. They split the Palestine mandate into an Arab state which has become the modern day Jordan, and Israel. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 9:24pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
After the exile by the Romans at 70 CE, the Jewish people migrated to Europe and North Africa. In the Diaspora (scattered outside of the Land of Israel), they established rich cultural and economic lives, and contributed greatly to the societies where they lived. Yet, they continued their national culture and prayed to return to Israel through centuries. In the first half of the 20th century there were major waves of immigration of Jews back to Israel from Arab countries and from Europe. During the British rule in Palestine, the Jewish people were subject to great violence and massacres directed by Arab civilians or forces of the neighboring Arab states. During World War II, the Nazi regime in Germany decimated about 6 million Jews creating the great tragedy of The Holocaust. In 1948, the Jewish Community in Israel under the leadership of David Ben-Gurion reestablished sovereignty over their ancient homeland. Declaration of independence of the modern State of Israel was announced on the day that the last British forces left Israel (May 14, 1948). |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 9:28pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
solite3: LoL! How does this help your case? Why didn't your prophecy anticipate the Umayyad and Ottoman Empires which this thing you posted says ruled the region? If Israel as a nation did not exist after Romans destroyed it then how does your so called fractured roman empire now make the list? This your post does nothing to address those questions. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 9:58pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
LordReed:the umayyad and ottoman Empire never ruled the nation of Israel because Israel was not a nation when they came. the Reformed Roman empire will rise to power. the building of the third temple will see to the reemergence of the twelve tribes of Israel. prophecy is been fulfilled right before everyone's eyes. |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 10:17pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
solite3: OK so this reformed roman empire doesn't exist yet is what you are saying? |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by Nobody: 8:19am On Nov 20, 2018 |
LordReed:yes not yet but the process of her rising has long began |
Re: God Foretold The Current Iron-age Through Prophet Daniel by LordReed(m): 8:24am On Nov 20, 2018 |
solite3: And it will rule over the present nation of Israel, correct? |
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