komekn:


Firstly, you should have noticed I haven't said one word to TheSuperNerd. In that context there is nothing to lay down.

Secondly, abusive, vitriolic caustic rhetoric are totally alien to my diction. Nothing to lay down there.

I don't see passion

I see misguided blatant bigotry and prejudice.

Everything said so far has been one way traffic of abuse and hatred.

Lots of presumption lots of assumption,never ending allegations, but not one word of substantiation.

This whole brouhaha started because I asked a question ❓ What makes Chukwueze HUGE TALENT WONDERFUL, OUTSTANDING, etc, that's essentially all. A question that should have instituted a healthy informative discussion.

Don't you think you should direct your query to the instigator in chief if you are to fair and balanced.

For goodness sake why would anybody get so heated on a faceless forum.

Tackling ur second point first: you know there are several times u have thrown provocative words at me, right?
But then the difference is the way and manner each person responds.

I do not know you in person, but I have promised that I will one day arrange a meeting with you on any of my visits if it is convenient.

This foreign born agenda, there was a way u were presenting it when u first came to this thread and we all were happy to have someone out there who knows some of these foreign born players in and out.

People were always elated to see the name of any young Foreign Nigerian doing it well in England. But somehow along the line things changed and u should expect to see resistance. The only time you and I have been on different sides of an argument is this foreign vs local born issue. Infact same goes for every other person.

Komekn, we appreciate ur contributions here but maybe u need to change ur tactics. I sincerely appologize on the insult u received. We have to move on and please don't be discouraged. We need more info on our English sons.

komekn:


If your blinded by the negative you can't see the objective.

Consider the context Glasgow Rangers is in the Scottish league rated number 20 in Europe and Villareal league La Liga is rated number 1 by UEFA.

So taken in context the comparison is that Glasgow Rangers is lowly rated in comparison to Villarreal . Rangers didn't expect to win or even get a draw. They are the weaker team on paper. So the performance of Rangers was a bit of an upset.

i am not sure if you are addressing me but if you are, you will do well to choose ur words carefully. I want to believe you are civil enough, given the supposed wisdom u purport to have.

Seems like the new word in town is ''blinded''. Congrats dude!

wayodude:


Lets take the investigation in this direction...Since Rohr was appointed and played his first match in Sept 2016 (2yrs and 2 months ago)...

How many players has Rohr capped and what is the average age of these players?
Of the players he has capped or is about to cap, how many do we see as genuine long term national team players?
Is it not getting more obvious his philosophy is centered around fast counter attacking football rather than possession based football? With each game this is clearer and clearer to the trained eye, though i agree it may not be pretty viewing.

Our transition from defense to attack is improving all the time see our first goal at home against Cameroon, the goals at home against Algeria, against Iceland in the WC even against SA over the weekend. When teams sit back and dont attack meaning we need to unlock a packed defence his philosophy unravels and he doesnt come up with a plan B, we come here and shout we need a good Attacking Midfielder and Rohr cannot read games etc etc....some of which i agree with.

Remember a former legendary coach (of course he wasnt called a legendary coach then) who capped 28 yr old Muhammed Gambo of Kano Pillars and took him to the Confederations cup? He also capped near retiree and prodigal son Shola Ameobi and took him to the World Cup. This is the situation we used to have, dont forget.

I would have taken you up on this but the thread has been taken over by some very very funny people and I don't want to go down to their level. I will call you out again after that Uganda friendly then we can finish this particular argument, even if it means doing it privately. Good morning Sir

kennysville:


i am not sure if you are addressing me but if you are, you will do well to choose ur words carefully. I want to believe you are civil enough, given the supposed wisdom u purport to have.

Seems like the new word in town is ''blinded''. Congrats dude!

How is that even an insult? Damn

komekn:


Apologies my response is not to you alone.

I actually think he has to be quite a good prospect to be getting into the first team of Villareal but HUGE TALENT I am not so sure. NOT JUST YET.

If I understand you correctly huge talent according to you means an outstanding talent? Something like Mbappe now right? Well if that is your definition of huge talent well I am not sure he is exactly up to that. But for me I consider even Dembele a huge talent and although he may be more talented than Samu I still believe that if Dembele falls into that huge talent category (together with someone like....this young fullback cum winger in Fulham) then Samu deserves to be in it or at least around the periphery there.

By the way Mbappe is an outstanding talent, not huge talent. Some might add Dembele to that outstanding talent category but there is no way Samu is not close to that Fulham guy(this is in respect to the match he played against Liverpool this season which I watched and live too, my first live EPL game by the way, although I have watched a few LA Liga games live). So this is just a matter of semantics, to you huge talent is the ultimate, to a lot of people here it is the second tier behind outstanding talent

TheSuperNerd:
Listen here hypocrite.... You always ask such St*pid questions whenever it comes to our indigenous Naija born Talents. You always take the route of subtle ridicule when such talent is not English-born.

You claim you have nothing against him abi? You also claim you only ask why he is a huge talent?.....








.... Pray tell am I the one who typed this garbage below (@your post)? Merely the simple mention of the lad being a "Villarreal Wonderkid" in the Pavarotti post made you fly in with your smelly double standards and start ridiculously ridiculing the Wonderkid tag of Chukwueze. Come Komekn, is "stewpid" your middle name? Do you know more than La Liga who ranked him as among the best young players in the league today? Do you know more than we who have seen Chukwueze in a couple of games this season? Do you know more than the Spanish football experts who praise his talents?? Someone called you a spambot and another said you are the biggest hypocrite on here....

For me, I think you are just a shameless grown man in need of a deep seated lobotomy in order to cure your English-asslicking seizures and eradicate your dollopheadedness. You are as clueless as they come mister.... Disgusting!

Not even your twin, Forgiveness will play down on the talents of Chukwueze. He may debate Nacho's talents with me anytime especially as Nacho is experiencing a low now but there is no way he can hold a stone against a Beastly talent like Chukwueze. So if he can be truthful enough to rate Chukwueze, where does that leave you who is only hell bent on the rangers game which was the lad's cameo debut? SMH...

The most silly best and funniest thing about you is that you persist in this silly route and subtle attack on our indigenous Naija born Talents only because you have lost all sense of seeing how really stewpid and unintelligently biased you are. Believe me, that lobotomy will save you more of such hypocritical rides into buffoonery.

good morning doc hope you are good.

Bro there is no sugar coating this your use of insulting and abusive words against komekn is completely wrong and nothing justifies it.

Everyone has right to express his or her own opinion even if we don't agree with it. whatever we feel are komekn's true intentions when he voices his opinions it is still not right to hurl invectives like the ones above at him.

Dude I know you are a brilliant and intelligent person. You can easily counter him with facts and figures if he says something contrary without having to go down the insulting road. I know you're better than this but if what he writes riles you up so much like safarigirl would suggest jump and pass such comments.

Take care doc stay blessed

TheSuperNerd:
Is it that you too just wanna act oblivious to the sarcastic ridicule in komekn's comments on Pavarotti's post or you just want my attention? Okay, let me indulge you for a bit... Just a bit...



First off, the Pavarotti post read "Nigerian fans cannot wait to see new Villarreal wonderkid, Samuel Chukwueze...."

And immediately Komekn jumped in and said the following below your comment as seen.


Now look at the bolded carefully with the knowledge of how he always talk down on Naija talents that have indigenous roots.

1st case is on "overhype route" he mentioned:

Now I ask, where is the silly over hype route in terming Samuel a Villarreal Wonderkid seeing that La Liga have also termed him one of the best highly rated Youngsters in Spain? Or does Komekn not read the news? Is he not on this thread? Some folks shared the pic and information of la liga naming Chukwueze among its top finest youngsters who has impressed so far in la Liga... It has been here for days Or you want to tell me that Komekn suddenly became blind to those posts? Is he that restricted in information? Maybe he needs a better wifi connection perhaps to enable him view more pages without worry of data? Or maybe it is sight problem? Ah well... But I just don't understand why the simple referral to Samuel Chukwueze as a Villarreal Wonderkid made him ask such preposterous questions all in a bid to ridicule the lad... (Okay, I am lying here. I actually understand. It is because Samuel is not an English-born. Komekn that will defend a wastepipe player in Solanke because he is a borough boy but be questioning the talents of a la liga recognised super talent... Hmmm... The man really do not know talent if you ask me).



2nd case: Moving on to the next line of comments, he asked, "how many games have this "Wonderkid" played at Villarreal?

Now tell me, did he ask such a question to know or he asked it to ridicule? Do you think we have Dumbos here? Maybe some of you wanna act dumb but not me and certainly not some of us here who read the sarcastically styled ridicule in his silly question. Why did he have to even use "wonder kid" in such a sarcastic and subtly shameful manner? The sarcasm in his comment could not be hidden and you are here trying to defend him saying he asked only a simple question. Well, it only shows that it is not all of us that can read ridiculing sarcasm.

Oga forget about long epistle, it's a simple stuff!


If you think his comment is ridiculous or sarcastic, reply him in ridiculous or sarcastic manner as the case may be, no need for little insults.

Concerning your first paragraph, if you must know, your input is needed here as well as that of other monikers. If you think that am looking for your 'attention' specifically-- well, I don't! because it neither adds important value to my person nor $$$ to my account.

Mickael2:



If I understand you correctly huge talent according to you means an outstanding talent? Something like Mbappe now right? Well if that is your definition of huge talent well I am not sure he is exactly up to that. But for me I consider even Dembele a huge talent and although he may be more talented than Samu I still believe that if Dembele falls into that huge talent category (together with someone like....this young fullback cum winger in Fulham) then Samu deserves to be in it or at least around the periphery there.

By the way Mbappe is an outstanding talent, not huge talent. Some might add Dembele to that outstanding talent category but there is no way Samu is not close to that Fulham guy(this is in respect to the match he played against Liverpool this season which I watched and live too, my first live EPL game by the way, although I have watched a few LA Liga games live). So this is just a matter of semantics, to you huge talent is the ultimate, to a lot of people here it is the second tier behind outstanding talent

I also agree that samuel is a huge talent but time will tell if that potential will turn out to be something lasting and real. I'm tipping samuel to achieve great things he's on the right trajectory

TheSuperNerd:
Listen here hypocrite.... You always ask such St*pid questions whenever it comes to our indigenous Naija born Talents. You always take the route of subtle ridicule when such talent is not English-born.

You claim you have nothing against him abi? You also claim you only ask why he is a huge talent?.....








.... Pray tell am I the one who typed this garbage below (@your post)? Merely the simple mention of the lad being a "Villarreal Wonderkid" in the Pavarotti post made you fly in with your smelly double standards and start ridiculously ridiculing the Wonderkid tag of Chukwueze. Come Komekn, is "stewpid" your middle name? Do you know more than La Liga who ranked him as among the best young players in the league today? Do you know more than we who have seen Chukwueze in a couple of games this season? Do you know more than the Spanish football experts who praise his talents?? Someone called you a spambot and another said you are the biggest hypocrite on here....

For me, I think you are just a shameless grown man in need of a deep seated lobotomy in order to cure your English-asslicking seizures and eradicate your dollopheadedness. You are as clueless as they come mister.... Disgusting!

Not even your twin, Forgiveness will play down on the talents of Chukwueze. He may debate Nacho's talents with me anytime especially as Nacho is experiencing a low now but there is no way he can hold a stone against a Beastly talent like Chukwueze. So if he can be truthful enough to rate Chukwueze, where does that leave you who is only hell bent on the rangers game which was the lad's cameo debut? SMH...

The most silly best and funniest thing about you is that you persist in this silly route and subtle attack on our indigenous Naija born Talents only because you have lost all sense of seeing how really stewpid and unintelligently biased you are. Believe me, that lobotomy will save you more of such hypocritical rides into buffoonery.

I hope somebori is ok here? Make everybody warn somebori oooo. Ok na!

Mickael2:



I would have taken you up on this but the thread has been taken over by some very very funny people and I don't want to go down to their level. I will call you out again after that Uganda friendly then we can finish this particular argument, even if it means doing it privately. Good morning Sir

You're always welcome. Looking forward to it, please make sure you return.

Very ok in fact...

About time you saw my mention because I know what you think about Chukwueze. We disagree on some stuffs but on this Chukwueze lad, even you could not deny how special he is. That is why my mention of you was deliberate. Trust you are doing ok...

forgiveness:



I hope somebori is ok here? Make everybody warn somebori oooo. Ok na!

Not every thing is simple and not even every simplicity is understood. The history of komekn's attacks in every form on the Indigenous lads is well documented here by we, the regular and long term members of the thread.... So the stuff is not as simple as you think it is. Bye.

Utonwanne:



Oga forget about long epistle, it's a simple stuff!


If you think his comment is ridiculous or sarcastic, reply him in ridiculous or sarcastic manner as the case may be, no need for little insults.

Concerning your first paragraph, if you must know, your input is needed here as well as that of other monikers. If you think that am looking for your 'attention' specifically-- well, I don't! because it neither adds important value to my person nor $$$ to my account.

Las las we go modify the thread name, and we will all still be here. This frenemy lasts forever

safarigirl:
LOL.


Y'all have started with your Real Househusbands of Nairaland reality show again abi?

No need to even go through the pages, I don sabi who dey where already

Anyway, I got an unusual amount of mentions from this thread today and came to see what is going on..... Glad to see the camaraderie is growing strong in my absence

Y'all keep up with the bonding exercise. Can't wait for AFCON 2019 to come and go, so that this toxic thread can finally close and all the toxic elements flushed away. Truly, too many cooks spoil the broth.


Have fun though

I will rather take the path of Jesus Christ and John the Baptist who spared no punches when accurately labelling the buffonnery of certain fellows who acted like saintly gentlemen but are venomous wolves in character and via the mentality of their human nature.... ....... than to take the path of the Pharisees and scribes who uttered no word of insult in a bid to look right to people when in fact they were the masters of the lows.

Sometimes like Jesus did, it is best to label dirt for what it truly is.

My stand changeth not but I appreciate your concern and words. Do have a brilliant day yourself Sir Chrisooblog. It is well.

chrisooblog:
good morning doc hope you are good.

Bro there is no sugar coating this your use of insulting and abusive words against komekn is completely wrong and nothing justifies it.

Everyone has right to express his or her own opinion even if we don't agree with it. whatever we feel are komekn's true intentions when he voices his opinions it is still not right to hurl invectives like the ones above at him.

Dude I know you are a brilliant and intelligent person. You can easily counter him with facts and figures if he says something contrary without having to go down the insulting road. I know you're better than this but if what he writes riles you up so much like safari.girl would suggest jump and pass such comments.

Take care doc stay blessed

chrisooblog:
I also agree that samuel is a huge talent but time will tell if that potential will turn out to be something lasting and real. I'm tipping samuel to achieve great things he's on the right trajectory

I believe this has been a huge misunderstanding. I for one will tag Samu a huge talent but will I put him in the same bracket as Mbappe? No way na, and they are almost of the same age which is what I genuinely believe Komekn is saying too but here once you oppose a particular set of people you become the enemy, even if you whistle then it means you must have whistled because you don't like so so and so player, it is annoying

Super Eagles camp update

ANS reports a possible lineup as follows:

Super Eagles Starting XI Vs Uganda : Afelokhai, Ekong, Adeleye, Collins, Idowu, Mikel Agu, Ajayi, Iwobi, Chukwueze, Osimhen, Musa..


Courtesy: @editor_ANS

komekn:


Firstly, you should have noticed I haven't said one word to TheSuperNerd. In that context there is nothing to lay down.

Secondly, abusive, vitriolic caustic rhetoric are totally alien to my diction. Nothing to lay down there.

I don't see passion

I see misguided blatant bigotry and prejudice.

Everything said so far has been one way traffic of abuse and hatred.

Lots of presumption lots of assumption,never ending allegations, but not one word of substantiation.

This whole brouhaha started because I asked a question ❓ What makes Chukwueze HUGE TALENT WONDERFUL, OUTSTANDING, etc, that's essentially all. A question that should have instituted a healthy informative discussion.

Don't you think you should direct your query to the instigator in chief if you are to fair and balanced.

For goodness sake why would anybody get so heated on a faceless forum.

I strongly believe there was a degree of mischief in what you are now trying to project as an innocent question, perhaps aimed at getting a certain kind of reaction from readers here but they have overreacted.

Why do I say this? Because even when I provided reasonable proof to back up why the player is being described as a huge talent your comeback was only to say I should have my own opinion rather than that of the la Liga expert whose view I referenced. Of what use was that to the debate ??

You were being a wind up merchant and you got served playa. Learn from it. Lol

TheSuperNerd:
SE camp update

Ikechukwu Ezenwa featured as a midfielder in training earlier on Monday ahead of the Tuesday friendly. How funny. OGN says he dazzled but I am suspicious of what they mean by dazzle. Lol... Ezenwa as a midfielder.... Kaaiii... Well, in training, anything is possible... Hahahahaha...

To perfect his poor passing skills!

TheSuperNerd:

Not every thing is simple and not even every simplicity is understood. The history of komekn's attacks in every form on the Indigenous lads is well documented here by we, the regular and long term members of the thread.... So the stuff is not as simple as you think it is. Bye.

Am not a newbie on this thread so I know much about Kom.ekn, he has different view, that said.

And yes it is simple to jump and pass if you can't counter his comments without insults. You don't need to follow that route bro!

What if he (Kome.kn) were to be someone who refers Ogu, etebo and agu as carpenters just like Oga kriskels does, am sure many will say it's because he hates home grown kids. Just chill down, we are here on one mission - to support Eagles

Chees

Dutct football rise continues... Like Die Oranje, Like The Super Eagles

Didn't watch the full game because I was busy with some personal work but I was able to see the final minutes of it and wow, that was the best part. The dutch came back from two nil down and Drew 2-2 to top a Euro Nations League group having World Champions, France and Former World Champs, Germany (who have been relegated to Euro league B).

By virtue of that, the Netherlands (aka Holland) are through to the Euro Nations League Finals next year at the expense of France. Wow!

I remember when I and a few monikers many weeks back (more like few months ago now) were discussing the state of Dutch football and I remember saying strongly that I see a return to Euro 2020 for the Dutch and a comeback for them to the top with time because of their current talent pool with he likes of Frenkie De Jong, Matthijs de ligt, VVD, Stefan De Vrij, Bergwin, Promes, De Roon, Dumfries, Cillesen, Wijnaldum, a rejuvenated Memphis and more. Well, yeah they are not yet in the class of the Kluiverts, Van Bastens, Seedorf and Co but their potentials are huge and I said so months ago. I am excited for them not just because they have proved me right so far but also because of the connection Dutch football have always had to Naija soccer through the coaching knowledge investments of Jo Bonfere and Clemens Westerhof all those years especially in our first Golden Generation.

I have this strong personal affinity for Dutch and Brazilian football because I believe those were the football cultures that greatly influenced how Naija Soccer have evolved into being one known for being attacking , dominant and having beautiful flair. It is inherent in most of our Talents especially from the grassroots with our age grades all the way to the senior team even though we are coached by a German now who had more of his football time in France (makes him a Franco-German kinda then).

It just gives me Fine Joy seeing Dutch football's comeback coincide beautifully with the steady rise of Naija soccer also from the dark moments of 2014-2017. Almost same period the dutch also had their recent dark moments.


I am happy the Dutch are in the Euro Nations League Finals and I hope to see them at the Euros 2020 proper but it is My Super Eagles that give me the biggest Joy of all... The pieces are finally coming together for Naija soccer just it is coming together again for the dutch and I only hope Rohr and his crew can manage to make the most of it.


There is a deep unwritten connection in the football realm between Dutch football's resurrection and Nigeria's comeback steady rise.... Time will show more of it. In this light I hereby can conclude with the words, "like Dutch football, like Nigerian Football..."

Excelsior Super Eagles.

Borrowing England's famous words... The real glories of Naija soccer is coming home again... The dawn is ever closer.

You cannot equate Chriskels to Komekn ever.... We all know Chriskels here. We know his stand and what his words are about. He may have the most personal axe to grind with Rohr but we know he is GWG through and through. He may label some of our midfielders as Carpenters but that is because he wants upgrades and to see the team become world class just as I also want.

Was it not same Chriskels who was defending the stats of Mikel Agu the other day? A player who I know is among the carpenter crew? Plsss plsss and plsss... There is no correlation at all at all between Chriskels and Komekn. Haba!

Komekn will talk down on every department of the team and mischievously play down the talents of every rising indigenous born Naija lad.
But Chriskels... He will never do that. Chriskels even gives us updates on Foreign born Naija lads like Lookman and Sheyi Ojo and more. Just as I give updates occasionally on Noah Okafor and some others... We are only after killing the bias against the Indigenous born lads because I, Chriskels and some others stand for both the foreign borns and Indigenous borns.

This is why no one can come out to say Chriskels is a hater of Home-grown Talents. See? So your point does not add up at all.

And if truly you are no newbie here and claim to know so much about komekn, and all you can is he has a different view then I can only laugh and say, well done. Well done because obviously, the events of this thread from times past till now are lost on you. Lol...

Utonwanne:


Am not a newbie on this thread so I know much about Kom.ekn, he has different view, that said.

And yes it is simple to jump and pass if you can't counter his comments without insults. You don't need to follow that route bro!

What if he (Kome.kn) were to be someone who refers Ogu, etebo and agu as carpenters just like Oga kriskels does, am sure many will say it's because he hates home grown kids. Just chill down, we are here on one mission - to support Eagles

Chees

daveP:
To perfect his poor passing skills!

Lol.... And he didn't even start off in defence? Na wa ooo... Imagining Ezenwa as a midfielder is funny to me walahi...

TheSuperNerd:
I will rather take the path of Jesus Christ and John the Baptist who spared no punches when accurately labelling the buffonnery of certain fellows who acted like saintly gentlemen but are venomous wolves in character and via the mentality of their human nature.... ....... than to take the path of the Pharisees and scribes who uttered no word of insult in a bid to look right to people when in fact they were the masters of the lows.

Sometimes like Jesus did, it is best to label dirt for what it truly is.

My stand changeth not but I appreciate your concern and words. Do have a brilliant day yourself Sir Chrisooblog. It is well.

I hear you doc and I'm glad you mentioned jesus christ also remember when he was crucified and being wrongly accused by the same pharisees didn't he didn't abuse or curse them he rather prayed to God to forgive them.

Anyway bro let's all be calm and let peace reign take care blessings

Mickael2:



If I understand you correctly huge talent according to you means an outstanding talent? Something like Mbappe now right? Well if that is your definition of huge talent well I am not sure he is exactly up to that. But for me I consider even Dembele a huge talent and although he may be more talented than Samu I still believe that if Dembele falls into that huge talent category (together with someone like....this young fullback cum winger in Fulham) then Samu deserves to be in it or at least around the periphery there.

By the way Mbappe is an outstanding talent, not huge talent. Some might add Dembele to that outstanding talent category but there is no way Samu is not close to that Fulham guy(this is in respect to the match he played against Liverpool this season which I watched and live too, my first live EPL game by the way, although I have watched a few LA Liga games live). So this is just a matter of semantics, to you huge talent is the ultimate, to a lot of people here it is the second tier behind outstanding talent

You talking about sessegnon?

Yeah, but I am not even close to crucifixion. I am in that stage Jesus was when he just had to say it as it is wayyyy before his crucifixion.

Anyway, It is okay Sir Chris. I hear you okay. Shalom man.

chrisooblog:
I hear you doc and I'm glad you mentioned jesus christ also remember when he was crucified and being wrongly accused by the same pharisees didn't he didn't abuse or curse them he rather prayed to God to forgive them.

Anyway bro let's all be calm and let peace reign take care blessings

TheSuperNerd:
You cannot equate Chriskels to Komekn ever.... We all know Chriskels here. We know his stand and what his words are about. He may have the most personal axe to grind with Rohr but we know he is GWG through and through. He may label some of our midfielders as Carpenters but that is because he wants upgrades and to see the team become world class just as I also want.

Was it not same Chriskels who was defending the stats of Mikel Agu the other day? A player who I know is among the carpenter crew? Plsss plsss and plsss... There is no correlation at all at all between Chriskels and Komekn. Haba!

Komekn will talk down on every department of the team and mischievously play down the talents of every rising indigenous born Naija lad.
But Chriskels... He will never do that. Chriskels even gives us updates on Foreign born Naija lads like Lookman and Sheyi Ojo and more. Just as I give updates occasionally on Noah Okafor and some others... We are only after killing the bias against the Indigenous born lads because I, Chriskels and some others stand for both the foreign borns and Indigenous borns.

This is why no one can come out to say Chriskels is a hater of Home-grown Talents. See? So your point does not add up at all.

And if truly you are no newbie here and claim to know so much about komekn, and all you can is he has a different view then I can only laugh and say, well done. Well done because obviously, the events of this thread from times past till now are lost on you. Lol...

Oga I just gave an example and yes, I AM NOT A NEWBIE on this thread!

Attack his point and not his person, mutual respect is needed for this to continue growing

edi287:

That's the point I'm trying to make. You have more in depth knowledge of the English system and our players in it hence you can talk more about it than other leagues.
You would know more about a Sheyi Ojo or an Ovie Ejaria in the youth system than a Samuel Chukwueze in the LA Liga.

Nothing to prove but I actually know both of them of them personally.

You would probably notice that l have not engaged instigator in chief of all the allegations, vitriolic caustic abuse, etc, etc.

Maybe because of my professional background or experience in life, l am not sure.

I NEVER or at least try not to make assumptions about what people are thinking it's an exercise in futility. No man can be God. Only God knows the heart of a man. Anybody insinuating that he knows what anybody think is not just conceited but deeply delusional.

Words can be ambiguous, meaning and intention perceived with huge disparities in perception. It's not about the words but the person and how he receives them. With bad mind or good mind.

It shows the depth of bigotry some have extended too.

Nobody has brought out the post in which I commended Chukwueze extensively for his professionalism, dedication and discipline that with these attributes he will go a long way.

I will use the word promoted, because I don't want to give detail or answer questions. Years ago when I attempted to promote Sunday Mba and Etebo to the EPL, I guess it was because they were born in Manchester. let me be sarcastic LOL.

It's not an act of bias or favoritism but participative familiarity and association. That makes me talk more about Nigerian origin players in the UK.

It may be a faceless forum but I try to be responsible with my words. You may not agree with my opinion but that's your prerogative, l am not looking for election votes to win Senate seat for Delta.Lol

edi287:

You talking about sessegnon?

Precisely

Well, to me the events of the thread still look lost on you. I am in very good position to say that as one of the old and founding members here. Merci.

Utonwanne:


Oga I just gave an example and yes, I AM NOT A NEWBIE on this thread!

Attack his point and not his person, mutual respect is needed for this to continue growing

Mickael2:



See the problem here. You are hanging on to this particular match against Glasgow rangers, that is all you have against him, but out of 6 games he has had at least four good games, that means he has been consistently good. See, those that are saying he is good after watching him play well in four games out of 6 are perfectly correct as opposed to you, leave this matter at least till the end of the season then you can come back and conclude. Besides I remember you once said a certain player needed a season to get used to the physicality of the Championship, but Samu has gotten used to the technicality of the Spanish League in less than a season

thank you. This is too simple! You say it just the way it is.

wayodude:


I strongly believe there was a degree of mischief in what you are now trying to project as an innocent question, perhaps aimed at getting a certain kind of reaction from readers here but they have overreacted.

Why do I say this? Because even when I provided reasonable proof to back up why the player is being described as a huge talent your comeback was only to say I should have my own opinion rather than that of the la Liga expert whose view I referenced. Of what use was that to the debate ??

You were being a wind up merchant and you got served playa. Learn from it. Lol

Thank you. Someone who sees the truth behind his comments. Even when provided with a top rated Spanish football expert's view he started barking another tune to discredit your post....

Thanks again.

TheSuperNerd:
Well, to me the events of the thread still look lost on you. I am in very good position to say that as one of the old and founding members here. Merci.

Well, being a founding member gives you no guarantee to insult him,,, we ain't dragging who first come