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Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by DeSepiero(m): 11:53pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
felixomor: Luke warm and backsliding is part of the process of leaving religion. Isn't it? |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 12:47am On Nov 18, 2018 |
Niflheim:Will I say that I'm surprised by this findings? Certainly not for they are stating something already obvious to me, for I already pointed this out in the thread I recently created with respect to atheism. For this was clearly illustrated by the instance of Jesus ministry on earth, for most of his true and most devoted followers were ignoramuses and unlearned persons, but those who were learned and very knowledgeable in the sense of the world, proved to be His greatest opposition on earth. And that was the reason for this saying of Jesus: "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast his these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight." Lk 10:21(KJV) Therefore it is not a strange finding considering what Jesus Himself said on that occasion, hence it shouldn't be seen as a bad thing to those who walk with God, because if it was a good thing in the sight of God, the Creator of man, and it was also a good thing to Jesus His only begotten Son as well, then it should also be a good thing in the sight of those who walk with God. Therefore it is really a good thing to me, and Infact i'm highly overjoyed that God hides those things from the intelligent and learned, the scientists etc., but revealed them to the stark illiterates and the otondos, for so it seemed good in His sight. And believe me when i talk say e dey sweet me die! Ha! Ha!! Ha!!! For God himself is the source of this knowledge, and He was the one that planted the tree of knowledge... in the garden, not man nor the devil but God, so for Him to prevent man from eating of it then for a while, being the Creator of man He should know better! For the problem is not the knowledge in itself, but what it could do to man if man is not able to handle it! For God has shown he's not afraid of giving man such knowledge if a man has shown himself to be capable in that respect, such as in the instance of Noah, who if you ask me should be credited with the greatest invention of all time, with respect to the time of the invention and also the extent of the advanced technology involved in it at the time. And guess who gave the stark stone-aged illiterate called Noah that knowledge? Yes you guessed right; God! And then there was the quartet of the Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who God used to lay the foundation of the first ever civilization on Earth, that paved the way for what is called science today, and the brains behind one of the wonders of the ancient world, called the hanging gardens of Babylon, during the reign of King Nebuchadnezzar, as they were found by him to be ten times wiser than their counterparts at the time. And guess who again gave them the knowledge? And then there is also the more recent instance of Isaac Newton who is widely regarded as the greatest scientist ever, so could it have been by coincidence that his God was also the Creator Himself, who he reverenced openly to ensure that this was not in any doubt? Therefore the problem is not knowledge, for despite these ones being entrusted with far more intelligence and knowledge in comparison with their peers in their day, the knowledge they had did not become a problem to them that would make them to begin to rebel against their Creator and lift their hearts up against him, but rather it even made them to be more humble before him, and in subjection to His will and authority, as was illustrated in the instance of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego who defied the first ever world leader, even King Nebuchadnezzar, on His behalf, even if it would have cost them their lives! So it can be observed why God didn't have any problem giving such unusual extent of knowledge to such ones! God is the owner of all knowledge and intelligence, even that which such knowledgeable and intelligent persons such as scientists use to rebel against Him, therefore occasionally He makes them know how ignorant and unintelligent they would be without His help, such as in the instance of the Asian tsunami, which the world's leading scientists were unable to foretell in spite of all their knowledge and expertise, even though the animals themselves in all their ignorance were yet able to perceive that it was imminent. For God made them, even the ignorant animals to know more than the most knowledgeable and intelligent of men in that respect! I'm going to talk more on this subject on a soon upcoming thread of mine concerning such knowledge, but I just felt I should give my take on this. So this should suffice for now. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by felixomor: 6:43am On Nov 18, 2018 |
DeSepiero:Ok. Good u don't know them |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by felixomor: 6:46am On Nov 18, 2018 |
DeSepiero:Mention the person that is lukewarm. Or lukewarm is your fantasy wish for them? Since atheism wish failed. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Uyi168: 7:03am On Nov 18, 2018 |
felixomor:dr Felix.. Please go back to the guy I quoted.. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by DeSepiero(m): 7:52am On Nov 18, 2018 |
felixomor: Person? All the people quietly transitioning from Christianity to 'no religion'!! Can't mention them all Pal. Not even you pastor can in his congregation. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by HardMirror(m): 8:53am On Nov 18, 2018 |
hahn:he is an idiot 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 9:07am On Nov 18, 2018 |
I couldn't help but agree. Most religious people aren't that intelligent, if they were, they would have seen that their religion is a sham. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by felixomor: 9:07am On Nov 18, 2018 |
DeSepiero:Good. You dont know them So only God know those that r lukewarm Or are u ignorant of that basic fact? So stop claiming they are the "intelligent" ones. because u dont even know them |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by DeSepiero(m): 9:29am On Nov 18, 2018 |
felixomor: Lol...you don't want to accept that Christians are intelligent again? Oh I see; I called them Lukewarm. Yes! I know...the brilliant ones are lukewarm. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by orunto27: 9:46am On Nov 18, 2018 |
Atheists and CIA permutations to regenerate our Focus. It's a Bogey |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by felixomor: 10:49am On Nov 18, 2018 |
DeSepiero: Its a 2 way street, The same way atheists are seeing the light and u call them "foolish"..... [img]www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLimoqZUWgw[/img] Bye to atheism. Hehehe 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by tintingz(m): 12:50pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
YAHREIGNS:No, they don't believe in same God. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by tintingz(m): 12:53pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
buddenlove:Most intelligent people in religious societies in the past are mostly apostates or heretics. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by YAHREIGNS: 4:39pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
tintingz: Ooooookaaay... |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by JeromeBlack: 9:39pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
YAHREIGNS: Lol....so African tribes believed in Yaweh and Allah who were gods of middle Eastern people? You can lie. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Samunique(m): 9:46pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
felixomor:Thank you made !!! Don't mind that agent of darkness that posted that rubbish . |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 10:31pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
tintingz:u r very confused sir. who says that apostate or heretics r not religious people? They r religious people! dey only support some non conform doctrines. dat makes dem apostates/heretics And b apostate or heretic is relativ Martin Luther the father of Protestantism was called apostate by catholic church and sent out John calvin too Etc... You dont kno the history of the church and u r online writing nonsense! R u going to say apostle Paul was not intelligent? when he was pleading his own case before king Festus, the king says in Acts 26:24: Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are out of your mind; your great learning is driving you out of your mind.” Luke, the apostle was a physician. Talking about Nigeria The state of Nigeria is your politicians stealing ur money and u want to put the blame upon the church? Nigeria is almost 200 millions people and christians r not even up to 50 millions. If christians r dumb bcoz of their religion, what about the 150 million people remaining? If they r so intelligent bcoz they r not religious, why they r not building the country? |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by tintingz(m): 10:49pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
buddenlove:I didn't say they are not religious, they are religious but heretics. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 11:45am On Nov 20, 2018 |
AHCB: After years of indoctrination and the fear of hell or the wrath of god here on earth, the intelligent once even though in doubt would still stick to it. You then hear them saying stuff like I’d rather serve god and discover he doesn’t exist than not serving him and discover he exist. It’s all fear, nobody wanna burn in hell . 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 12:07pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
PRESENTATION:that's the sham of it all. I've discovered personally, that there's no heaven and there's no hell after a person dies. The only heaven and hell that exist is this present life. After it, there is nothing. As regard the bolded, the question I usually ask them is, where was them before they came into this world. Everyone of them always tell me the same thing: "they don't know". My reply to them is "if you don't know where you were before coming to this planet, how can you know where you're going when you leave it". But still, logic and reason have always been the greatest enemy of many religious folks. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 12:23pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
AHCB: Coupled with the problem in Africa, one needs an escape route of better life after death, which religion offers. When we finally get it right in the nearest future, people would no longer turn to god in hard times. Imagine electricity, health, water, and other basic social amenities are available people wouldn’t even think the way they do now. They just try to impart and leave. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 12:36pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
PRESENTATION:the very reason why I continue to opine that the current abysmal state of affairs in this country, and Africa at large is a conspiracy orchestrated by the politicians and the clergy. Think about it, both the politicians and the clergy need the people to be completely stupid_ and dependant on them, that way, they continue to milk them and stay relevant in the scheme of things. Take away the gullible and stupid_ people from our society, the clergy won't find people who will pay tithe, sow seed etc, neither will politicians see who they'll give stipend to vote them into power. Can you see just how repulsive/lucrative this conspiracy is? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 12:57pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
AHCB: My thinking of nearest future is farther than I ever imagined though. We all find it difficult trying to tell our immediate family and friends why religion ain’t the way forward, before we move to the larger society. We’d get right though. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 1:07pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
PRESENTATION:the nearest future?, I don't really believe there's a future to begin with. Poverty and strife has been so entrenched into the bone marrow of this body we call Nigeria. When you tell your immediate family and friends religion isn't the way forward, what was their response? I bet you it is still the same narrow minded bullsh1t we hear coming out of the mouths of this wretched pastors and politicians. Moving to a larger society now isn't possible, not at this very moment. You take a look at Freeze and what he's doing with his #freethesheeple movement, you'll see even the so called intelligent people still ascribe a semblance divinity to these pastors. Now how can a country move forward when its people still believe their pastors are demi gods, even in this modern age. I'm afraid we're stuck where we are. Backwardness and stagnation is the way things are now. It's sad, but true. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Dantedasz(m): 2:10pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
AHCB: While I can understand where you are going,I have a strong belief that the more enlightened the society becomes the more religion will become endangered. The internet has done a great deal of exposing religion as a fraud and slavery of the mind. Any person who thinks critically has just got to realise that religion has held mankind back from achieving its true potentials. I don't sincerely believe religion can survive the next 100 years. I may be wrong in my prediction but I feel that as mankind becomes more educated,the fear and mind control that religion thrives upon will disappear and mankind will reach its true potentials. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by Nobody: 2:45pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
AHCB: On the bold, I have to agree with you. When these bad element (both politicians and religious) are finally ridden off, we’d be on track again. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by CAPSLOCKED: 2:54pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
PRESENTATION: YOU CAN NEVER GET RID OF POLITICS OR RELIGION. AT LEAST NOT IN 2 CENTURIES. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by bobowaja(m): 3:05pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:Nothing is impossible. The Europeans and Americans did it.... It is just a matter of time. Although, I doubt ending politics because the society cannot do without it (but is can be regulated) |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by CAPSLOCKED: 3:07pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
bobowaja: ONE CAN HARDLY OPERATE WITHOUT THE OTHER AT THE MOMENT. THE EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS STILL PRACTICE RELIGION. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 3:09pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
Dantedasz:I hope you know going to school doesn't make one educated, neither does it make one enlighten or even expose. This same intelligent people you speak of, are the ones who can't do without religion. The internet haven't really expose religion as the fraud it is because, many people are still slave to it. Check the daily comment on social media and see if religion hasn't messed with the minds of a lot of people, especially the so called intelligent ones. You should also be aware that critical thinking have never, I repeat never been the strongest suit for most Nigerians, who still have many intelligent people as much as foolish people. So, I honestly don't know what will be of religion 100 years from now, but what I do know is, until religion is expose for the fraud it is today, it'll continue to thrive in our country. |
Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by AHCB: 3:12pm On Nov 20, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:the goal is not to get rid of politics, but to get rid of religion. It starts with removing religion from the affairs of state. Nothing concerns religion with politics, neither does it concern itself with governance. 1 Like |
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