felixomor:

At first it was that they would leave religion
Now u are grasping another straw.

Abegi

Niflheim:
Yes!!!


FULL STORY:

Religious people are less intelligent on average than atheists because faith is an instinct and clever people are better at rising above their instincts, researchers have claimed.

The theory — called the 'Intelligence-Mismatch Association Model' — was proposed by a pair of authors who set out to explain why numerous studies over past decades have found religious people to have lower average intelligence than people who do not believe in a god.

A 2013 analysis by University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 historic studies.

A negative correlation between intelligence and religion makes sense if religion is considered an instinct, and intelligence the ability to rise above one's instincts, say researchers Edward Dutton and Dimitri van der Linden in their new paper published today.
Writing for Springer’s journal of Evolutionary Psychological Science, the authors – who are based at the Ulster Institute for Social Research and Rotterdam University respectively – explained their model is based on the ideas of evolutionary psychologist Satoshi Kanazawa.

Mr Kanazawa's 'Savanna-IQ Principles' suggest human behaviour will always be guided by the environment in which their ancestors developed.

Mr Dutton and Mr van der Linden argue in keeping with this that religion should be considered an 'evolved domain' — or instinct.
Rising above instincts is advantageous, they said in a statement, because it helps people to solve problems.

“If religion is an evolved domain then it is an instinct, and intelligence — in rationally solving problems — can be understood as involving overcoming instinct and being intellectually curious and thus open to non-instinctive possibilities,” explained Mr Dutton.

According to the 2013 review, [/b]the more intelligent a child is — even during early years — the more likely it is to turn away from religion.[b]

In old age, [/b]above-average-intelligence people are less likely to believe in a god.[b]
Mr Dutton and Mr van der Linden also investigated the link between instinct and stress, and the instinctiveness with which people tend to operate during stressful periods.

They argue that being intelligent helps people during stressful times to weigh up their options and act rationally rather than give in to knee-jerk responses.

“If religion is indeed an evolved domain — an instinct — then it will become heightened at times of stress, when people are inclined to act instinctively, and there is clear evidence for this,” said Mr Dutton.

“It also means that intelligence allows us to able to pause and reason through the situation and the possible consequences of our actions.”

The researchers believe that people who are attracted to the non-instinctive are potentially better problem solvers.

“This is important, because in a changing ecology, the ability to solve problems will become associated with rising above our instincts, rendering us attracted to evolutionary mismatches,” said Mr van der Linden.


THE LINK:................................................https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/atheists-more-intelligent-than-religious-people-faith-instinct-cleverness-a7742766.html

DeSepiero:


Which people? The ones you first mentioned. You've forgotten?

DeSepiero:


Luke warm and backsliding is part of the process of leaving religion. Isn't it?

felixomor:

I didnt just say "God"
Yet u said "God"
Why are u dilly dallying?

And ur question isnt intelligently framed.
Why?
Christianity was already in africa as early as at 4AD...

"forefathers" for you is not the entirety of Africa.

felixomor:

Mention the person that is lukewarm.
Or lukewarm is your fantasy wish for them?
Since atheism wish failed.

hahn:


After everything in the post this is all you could understand

DeSepiero:


Person? All the people quietly transitioning from Christianity to 'no religion'!! Can't mention them all Pal. Not even you pastor can in his congregation.

felixomor:

Good. You dont know them
So only God know those that r lukewarm

Or are u ignorant of that basic fact?
So stop claiming they are the "intelligent" ones.
because u dont even know them

DeSepiero:


Lol...you don't want to accept that Christians are intelligent again? Oh I see; I called them Lukewarm. Yes! I know...the brilliant ones are lukewarm.

YAHREIGNS:

Not really. Most African tribes believed in the same ANCIENT God, just used a different language to refer to Him... And got religious practices mixed up with a little bit of heathen worship, that's all

buddenlove:


Rubbish studies!!!
There is no society or civilization without religion in the history of man.
If u kno one, thank to let us kno
Or the religion making people less intelligent, do u mean Christianity?

tintingz:
No, they don't believe in same God.

YAHREIGNS:

Not really. Most African tribes believed in the same ANCIENT God, just used a different language to refer to Him... And got religious practices mixed up with a little bit of heathen worship, that's all

felixomor:
https://www.nairaland.com/4241283/meet-smartest-christian-alive-iq


Lies.
Religious people especially Christians and Jews make up the bulk of all most intelligent and Nobel winners.

As a matter of fact,
Research has shown that Atheism is associated with mental retardation.


https://www.nairaland.com/3493419/atheist-very-high-possibility-mental

tintingz:
Most intelligent people in religious societies in the past are mostly apostates or heretics.

buddenlove:

u r very confused sir. who says that apostate or heretics r not religious people?
They r religious people! dey only support some non conform doctrines. dat makes dem apostates/heretics
And b apostate or heretic is relativ
Martin Luther the father of Protestantism was called apostate by catholic church and sent out
John calvin too
Etc...
You dont kno the history of the church and u r online writing nonsense!
R u going to say apostle Paul was not intelligent? when he was pleading his own case before king Festus, the king says in Acts 26:24: Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are out of your mind; your great learning is driving you out of your mind.”
Luke, the apostle was a physician.
Talking about Nigeria
The state of Nigeria is your politicians stealing ur money and u want to put the blame upon the church?
Nigeria is almost 200 millions people and christians r not even up to 50 millions. If christians r dumb bcoz of their religion, what about the 150 million people remaining? If they r so intelligent bcoz they r not religious, why they r not building the country?

AHCB:
I couldn't help but agree. Most religious people aren't that intelligent, if they were, they would have seen that their religion is a sham.

PRESENTATION:

After years of indoctrination and the fear of hell or the wrath of god here on earth, the intelligent once even though in doubt would still stick to it.

You then hear them saying stuff like I’d rather serve god and discover he doesn’t exist than not serving him and discover he exist.

It’s all fear, nobody wanna burn in hell .

AHCB:
that's the sham of it all.

I've discovered personally, that there's no heaven and there's no hell after a person dies. The only heaven and hell that exist is this present life. After it, there is nothing.

As regard the bolded, the question I usually ask them is, where was them before they came into this world. Everyone of them always tell me the same thing: "they don't know". My reply to them is "if you don't know where you were before coming to this planet, how can you know where you're going when you leave it".

But still, logic and reason have always been the greatest enemy of many religious folks.

PRESENTATION:

Coupled with the problem in Africa, one needs an escape route of better life after death, which religion offers.

When we finally get it right in the nearest future, people would no longer turn to god in hard times. Imagine electricity, health, water, and other basic social amenities are available people wouldn’t even think the way they do now.

They just try to impart and leave.

AHCB:
the very reason why I continue to opine that the current abysmal state of affairs in this country, and Africa at large is a conspiracy orchestrated by the politicians and the clergy.

Think about it, both the politicians and the clergy need the people to be completely stupid_ and dependant on them, that way, they continue to milk them and stay relevant in the scheme of things.

Take away the gullible and stupid_ people from our society, the clergy won't find people who will pay tithe, sow seed etc, neither will politicians see who they'll give stipend to vote them into power.

Can you see just how repulsive/lucrative this conspiracy is?

PRESENTATION:

My thinking of nearest future is farther than I ever imagined though. We all find it difficult trying to tell our immediate family and friends why religion ain’t the way forward, before we move to the larger society.

We’d get right though.

AHCB:
the nearest future?, I don't really believe there's a future to begin with.

Poverty and strife has been so entrenched into the bone marrow of this body we call Nigeria.

When you tell your immediate family and friends religion isn't the way forward, what was their response? I bet you it is still the same narrow minded bullsh1t we hear coming out of the mouths of this wretched pastors and politicians.

Moving to a larger society now isn't possible, not at this very moment. You take a look at Freeze and what he's doing with his #freethesheeple movement, you'll see even the so called intelligent people still ascribe a semblance divinity to these pastors. Now how can a country move forward when its people still believe their pastors are demi gods, even in this modern age.

I'm afraid we're stuck where we are. Backwardness and stagnation is the way things are now. It's sad, but true.

AHCB:
the nearest future?, I don't really believe there's a future to begin with.

Poverty and strife has been so entrenched into the bone marrow of this body we call Nigeria.

When you tell your immediate family and friends religion isn't the way forward, what was their response? I bet you it is still the same narrow minded bullsh1t we hear coming out of the mouths of this wretched pastors and politicians.

Moving to a larger society now isn't possible, not at this very moment. You take a look at Freeze and what he's doing with his #freethesheeple movement, you'll see even the so called intelligent people still ascribe a semblance divinity to these pastors. Now how can a country move forward when its people still believe their pastors are demi gods, even in this modern age.

I'm afraid we're stuck where we are. Backwardness and stagnation is the way things are now. It's sad, but true.

PRESENTATION:


On the bold, I have to agree with you. When these bad element (both politicians and religious) are finally ridden off, we’d be on track again.

CAPSLOCKED:


YOU CAN NEVER GET RID OF POLITICS OR RELIGION.
AT LEAST NOT IN 2 CENTURIES.

bobowaja:

Nothing is impossible. The Europeans and Americans did it.... It is just a matter of time. Although, I doubt ending politics because the society cannot do without it (but is can be regulated)

Dantedasz:


While I can understand where you are going,I have a strong belief that the more enlightened the society becomes the more religion will become endangered.
The internet has done a great deal of exposing religion as a fraud and slavery of the mind. Any person who thinks critically has just got to realise that religion has held mankind back from achieving its true potentials.
I don't sincerely believe religion can survive the next 100 years. I may be wrong in my prediction but I feel that as mankind becomes more educated,the fear and mind control that religion thrives upon will disappear and mankind will reach its true potentials.

CAPSLOCKED:


YOU CAN NEVER GET RID OF POLITICS OR RELIGION.
AT LEAST NOT IN 2 CENTURIES.