ccarefulwind2:

* What is your purpose of studying the works of God?

My Purpose of studying God whose name is YHWH, is to know how to live according to His Divine Design. God created this earth, and created man to dominate it. He did not create the earth and stepped aside, no. He intended to be part and parcel of what man did here, but Man out of rebellion got himself distracted, hence lost out on the Grand Divine Design. To get man back on track, YHWH stepped down Himself, took up a human body in other to teach me how to know him personally, and how to get back into the Design which is eternal. This is why i study to know God, for in Him i live, i move and have my being. Without Him, there's no me.

ccarefulwind2:


* There is a Supreme Being who is the creator of all things, i didnt attribute that to satan *

This supreme being, does it have a name?

ccarefulwind2:

* What the occult really does, when followed on the right path, is that it helps men reach illumination.

I think we should at this point define terms.

* Is Jesus an Occult Grand Master?
*If yes pls give reasons why you believe so.

If He is, then He most definitely behind the Occult you want us to discuss here.

* If He is, why then did you assert that many people do not want to study Occult when the Word of God is taught at every turn openly?

* If He is, why do we Christians go out for Evangelism openly (Not in secret) and want to convert the world?

* Point out His Occultic practices from His Word.

*Is there anything like Occultic Christianity?
* If the answer to above questions is Yes, pls point out their activities out.

If Jesus is not behind Occultism, who is?

If Satan is behind Occult, can you attribute Illumination which is Light, both of sight and mind to him? As in, is Lucifer the Master of light now?

* What is illumination according to you?

* Are different kinds of lights?

Do you know why the Occult hide in secrets?

ccarefulwind2:

* I have had series of discussions with great pastors and imams (identities withheld), on why they don't reveal everything to their members, do you know what their response have always been? That they can't. Why? Because most of the people will misuse the teachings due to immaturity.

More questions.
*What kind of Pastors are we talking about here? Pls dont mention their names, but pls do tell which aspect of Christianity they practices.

*Are they Catholic?
*Orthodox?
*Coptic?
*Evangelical?
* Jehovah's Witnesses?
* Christian Science = those who read palms, study the zodiac ete.
* Spiritualism/Spiritism = those who invoke Angels and sacrifice animals and carry out assignments and perform rituals.
* LDS?

Now, for you to ask those pastors that question, you must have an idea what they are hiding. Pls tell me what they must be hiding.

*What you do understand by Christian maturity? And how can this knowledge be misused?

Is there anything Jesus kept back from the Church?

ccarefulwind2:

So they prefer to reveal and explain more on the mysteries to certain members, who has showed maturity in
the scriptures, that have been watched closely and studied under their own eyes

What this means is that, these your pastors have a select few they hold Bible study with after the general Bible study with the whole Church?

They have those whom they reveal the secret of their power to?

Pls, i need very brief answers yo my questions.

ccarefulwind2:


You have answered your question, dont forget the meaning of the word "Occult".

Make i work small.

No, i cannot forget the meaning of Occult.

Okay finish dey work come give me my answers. lol. Enjoy your work.

ccarefulwind2:


But the concept of "sin" is trickery and broad, in the sense that what one considers sin in one part of the world, might not be seen as sin at the other part of the world. This is why the law "Love your neighbour as your self" is considered universal.

In other words, everywhere on earth, the Law "Love your neighbour as you love yourself applies? If this is true, then there's one single human who has ever lived who did not know YHWH intrinsically. For, anyone who knows the Universal law " Love your neighbour", must know which law precedes that. How can any go on loving their neighbours witEveryonest loving God? They couldn't know that law without it's giver.

That said. There's no culture in human history which did not have God in them and with them. The point is rebellion. The sense of revolt to live free in sin predicates Sin. And, there's no single culture which didn't have the Ten Commandments whether written or as Folklore from Adam.

Every culture knew and knows that lying was and is wrong, stealing, dishonesty, cheating, killing another human being, backbiting, having sex with another mans wife or another woman's husband is wrong. The Law of God is the blue print or God's signature inside every human from creation. It is intrinsically underlies Humanity.

Cain didn't have the law, 'Thou shall not kill', but when he killed Abel his brother, he hid. When he was called out for it, he lied. Everyone knows what Sin is, the difference is our levels of disobedience.

ccarefulwind2:

Good people also dish out acts of kindness in secret but conceals their identity from the public. So not all things done in secret are dark and evil.

The Lord instructed that act of kindness shd be done secretly. And the reason is so that pride won't enter into you when men praise you for it.
Let everything you do be for the benefit of who received your help and the glory shd go to God who is your source. You shd know that you are only a channel and a vessel through which God passed through to reach your benefactor. Take no glory for anything you do. No hypocrisy.

Those who take glory for their deeds do not Love their benefactors, they love themselves and live on the praises of men. The Lord says his followers shd not be like that.

Believe me, it is hard for any Occult person to sincerely help the needy without an ulterior motives. To get higher in their Occult world, they must take from others, spiritually i mean.

Satan says, Take and keep for yourself, Jesus says Spread and share to others. Look around you.

ccarefulwind2:

Occult is darkness? So it is darkness, for someone seeking to know more about mathematics, geography, history, biology, etc?

You mean Satan is the Source of Mathematics, Biology, Geography and History? What the Hell? Have you ever heard the word 'Usurper?', that's who satan is. He is a thief. identity thief, ideology thief, knowledge thief, he steals everything.

Do you even know that Occult deals with the Supernatural and Mysticism? The great Scientists who were and are true Christians, Sir Isaac Newton was one. How do they and how did he know so much? Was he an Occultist?

I thought you said there's a supreme being who created everything, could you by any chance be referring to an entity other than YHWH?

ccarefulwind2:

I know you studied maths as one of your subjects in school, but do you know that the greatest minds that invented mathematics, that made sure it was been studied in schools, were Occultist?
I will stop here for now

You mean the Occult provided them the intellects, the sound mind and the understanding to study Mathematics?
Pls say it straight, Satan is the source of Numbers. Say it.

Do you why they hide? They are thieves, liars and deceivers. And they have got you so deceived to believe that what they do comes from satan when in essence, it all comes from YHWH to us.

Trust me, if satan has half of the power you accord him, he wouldn't bother with us in this planet, he'd ve created his own specie of creatures. Awake from this deception and see the deception. You are abandoning the creator who has satan in his hands to follow satan who himself is a creature like you. Right now, you are better than Satan because you can be redeemed, he can not.

There's no power in Occult. In the face of true power, and Light, they run and hide.

ccarefulwind2:

To know more about life, you have to know the deep things that defines and move it.

To know more about Life you need to know the deep things that defines and moves it? And these deep things are found in the Occult? Wait a sec. If i hand you an invention you had never seen before, you wouldn't know what it is or it's purpose or use. The invention itself wouldn't be able to tell you either, it's only the creator or the manufacturer of that invention can tell you what the invention is and what it is for. Will it be rational to boycott the inventor and resort to asking someone else?

General Olusegun Obasanjo brought the GSM to Nigeria is not enough to bypass Nokia manufacturers and other GSM companies at that time and go to Obasanjo and say 'Teach me the deep things of GSM'.

God is Life. Everything on this earth comes from Him, but, instead finding out about life from Him, you'd go to a lair?

Don't you think that if Satan is the author of life he'd ve created his own specie of humans instead of possessing you guys and trying to live on earth as flesh because Jesus was able to do it?

ccarefulwind2:

* creator of the universe? I'll prefer not to discuss about satan as an entity on these thread*

Why not? You want to discuss the Occult, but rather not talk about Satan? See? this is the point. You guys lie to yourselves and others, trying downplay satan, when he is the center of occult. Some will even to on to tell us that satan does not exist. Why does satan likes hiding?

We shd discuss standing on what premise? It's like saying 'let's discuss the Bible, but not Jesus'. Wow.

ccarefulwind2:

* My emoji? What is the essence of discussing a matter like these, without a symbol that incites humor, to encourage more imputs from contributors on the thread. My emoji is an expression (smile) on my face, on my own part.*

Your emoji expresses your state of mind to your readers. Yeah, it incites humor but also conveys messages.

ccarefulwind2:

.* i hoped you prayed for all of us yesterday, while in church? *

I'll pray for you today. This evening. Yesterday was solely for Jesus. It was Hosanna Service. Praisefare. All praise offering and dance to the Lord. We asked for nothing.

Today, i shall pray for encounter for you.You'lll be a viable vessel for His use. You have a sharp mind, kind demeanour and some what gentle spirited

Can i recommend a book for you? Promise you read it.

"Secrets of Heaven", by Emmanuel Swedenborg.
download the PDF version and read pls.

'True Christianity', by the same author will turn you down side up. becos right now, your state is upside down. No offense pls. i was like you too.

Anas09:


My Purpose of studying God whose name is YHWH, is to know how to live according to His Divine Design. God created this earth, and created man to dominate it. He did not create the earth and stepped aside, no. He intended to be part and parcel of what man did here, but Man out of rebellion got himself distracted, hence lost out on the Grand Divine Design. To get man back on track, YHWH stepped down Himself, took up a human body in other to teach me how to know him personally, and how to get back into the Design which is eternal. This is why i study to know God, for in Him i live, i move and have my being. Without Him, there's no me.

Very good. Tell me, did you just wake up one morning to these your conclusion on YHWH? Or you studied deeply, pondered deeply, researched deeply, asked questions from qualified people, in other for you to know more about YHWH?

Anas09:

.
This supreme being, does it have a name?

Oh yes, He is known by many names given to him by different tribes. I will name few of them, which you already know, they are ;

YHWH

THE COSMIC

JEHOVAH

SUPREME GOD

FATHER

Etc

Anas09:



I think we should at this point define terms.

* Is Jesus an Occult Grand Master?
*If yes pls give reasons why you believe so.

If He is, then He most definitely behind the Occult you want us to discuss here.

* If He is, why then did you assert that many people do not want to study Occult when the Word of God is taught at every turn openly?

* If He is, why do we Christians go out for Evangelism openly (Not in secret) and want to convert the world?

* Point out His Occultic practices from His Word.

*Is there anything like Occultic Christianity?
* If the answer to above questions is Yes, pls point out their activities out.

If Jesus is not behind Occultism, who is?

If Satan is behind Occult, can you attribute Illumination which is Light, both of sight and mind to him? As in, is Lucifer the Master of light now?

* What is illumination according to you?

* Are different kinds of lights?

Do you know why the Occult hide in secrets?

I wont answer that, but i will point you to one of the directions, that will tell you the answers and explain them better.

Kindly read the Mystical Life of Jesus Christ by Harvey Spencer Lewis.

When you read the book, then we can discuss more on it.

Anas09:


More questions.
*What kind of Pastors are we talking about here? Pls dont mention their names, but pls do tell which aspect of Christianity they practices.

*Are they Catholic?
*Orthodox?
*Coptic?
*Evangelical?
* Jehovah's Witnesses?
* Christian Science = those who read palms, study the zodiac ete.
* Spiritualism/Spiritism = those who invoke Angels and sacrifice animals and carry out assignments and perform rituals.
* LDS?

Sorry i can't give you that information, for the sake of their members that might be reading these thread. I prefer to give respect to their various practices and keep it confidential.

Gather here people, hear what guru is saying about Jesus....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0tOHJlAtE

ccarefulwind2:


Sorry i can't give you that information, for the sake of their members that might be reading these thread. I prefer to give respect to their various practices and keep it confidential.

So, if you say the branch of Christianity the said pastors practice their members will know?


Its as simple as saying 'Evangelical'. No name mentioned, no denomination mentioned.

Lolzzz. I think you made that up.

ccarefulwind2:


I wont answer that, but i will point you to one of the directions, that will tell you the answers and explain them better.

Kindly read the Mystical Life of Jesus Christ by Harvey Spencer Lewis.

When you read the book, then we can discuss more on it.

Oh, this is how you came up with an Occultic Jesus?

Listen, before Spencer was born, the Bible was in existence. I think we should go with the older book written by many authors, than with one.

By the way, you can help us and post what Spencer says about Jesus here. You see, i have a life, i don't have that time to read Spencer.

ccarefulwind2:


Oh yes, He is known by many names given to him by different tribes. I will name few of them, which you already know, they are ;

YHWH

THE COSMIC

JEHOVAH

SUPREME GOD

FATHER

Etc

Fair enough. Do you believe believe He is Occultic

ccarefulwind2:


Very good. Tell me, did you just wake up one morning to these your conclusion on YHWH? Or you studied deeply, pondered deeply, researched deeply, asked questions from qualified people, in other for you to know more about YHWH?

I did all of that. What is your point?

Anas09:




*What you do understand by Christian maturity? And how can this knowledge be misused?

I will explain based on the Christian religious concept and be very brief.

Christian maturity is a process that begins when a person accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. He or she is
born again of the Holy Spirit and then chooses to live "in Christ."

Therefore, in order for Christian maturity to develop in your life, you must make a choice to learn God's
Word, allow God to renew your mind, and then be obedient to what you learn. Romans 12:1-2 says,
"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of
this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve
what God's will is - his good, pleasing and perfect will."


How they misuse these knowledge? I will name but one. Which is ;

The Tongue : The control of the tongue is the greatest mark of Christian maturity, not only Christian maturity but spiritual maturity. But many Christians use their tongue to defile the very knowledge they were taught, by using it for their own gain or to hurt others.

Ponder on the following :

* James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

James 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be

3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

Anas09:

In other words, everywhere on earth, the Law "Love your neighbour as you love yourself applies? If this is true, then there's one single human who has ever lived who did not know YHWH intrinsically. For, anyone who knows the Universal law " Love your neighbour", must know which law precedes that. How can any go on loving their neighbours witEveryonest loving God? They couldn't know that law without it's giver.

That said. There's no culture in human history which did not have God in them and with them. The point is rebellion. The sense of revolt to live free in sin predicates Sin. And, there's no single culture which didn't have the Ten Commandments whether written or as Folklore from Adam.

Every culture knew and knows that lying was and is wrong, stealing, dishonesty, cheating, killing another human being, backbiting, having sex with another mans wife or another woman's husband is wrong. The Law of God is the blue print or God's signature inside every human from creation. It is intrinsically underlies Humanity.

Cain didn't have the law, 'Thou shall not kill', but when he killed Abel his brother, he hid. When he was called out for it, he lied. Everyone knows what Sin is, the difference is our levels of disobedience.


The Lord instructed that act of kindness shd be done secretly. And the reason is so that pride won't enter into you when men praise you for it.
Let everything you do be for the benefit of who received your help and the glory shd go to God who is your source. You shd know that you are only a channel and a vessel through which God passed through to reach your benefactor. Take no glory for anything you do. No hypocrisy.

Those who take glory for their deeds do not Love their benefactors, they love themselves and live on the praises of men. The Lord says his followers shd not be like that.

Believe me, it is hard for any Occult person to sincerely help the needy without an ulterior motives. To get higher in their Occult world, they must take from others, spiritually i mean.

Satan says, Take and keep for yourself, Jesus says Spread and share to others. Look around you.


You mean Satan is the Source of Mathematics, Biology, Geography and History? What the Hell? Have you ever heard the word 'Usurper?', that's who satan is. He is a thief. identity thief, ideology thief, knowledge thief, he steals everything.

Do you even know that Occult deals with the Supernatural and Mysticism? The great Scientists who were and are true Christians, Sir Isaac Newton was one. How do they and how did he know so much? Was he an Occultist?

I thought you said there's a supreme being who created everything, could you by any chance be referring to an entity other than YHWH?

You mean the Occult provided them the intellects, the sound mind and the understanding to study Mathematics?
Pls say it straight, Satan is the source of Numbers. Say it.

Do you why they hide? They are thieves, liars and deceivers. And they have got you so deceived to believe that what they do comes from satan when in essence, it all comes from YHWH to us.

Trust me, if satan has half of the power you accord him, he wouldn't bother with us in this planet, he'd ve created his own specie of creatures. Awake from this deception and see the deception. You are abandoning the creator who has satan in his hands to follow satan who himself is a creature like you. Right now, you are better than Satan because you can be redeemed, he can not.

There's no power in Occult. In the face of true power, and Light, they run and hide.

* it is hard for any occult person to help the needy? I disagree. Tell me about pastors that takes from the needy to fill their own account? * * stop choking words down my throat and making it seem like i put them there. Have i in any way mentioned satan as part of my discussion that has to do with the occult?* * why are you people always quick to point fingers at people who dare to probe into the mysteries through the occult as satanists, then enjoy the benefits of their discoveries with the other hand? These is really sad. * * speak for yourself, don't speak for me. The scales in your eyes have not off, for you to see clearly*

ccarefulwind2:
* it is hard for any occult person to help the needy? I disagree. Tell me about pastors that takes from the needy to fill their own account? * * stop choking words down my throat and making it seem like i put them there. Have i in any way mentioned satan as part of my discussion that has to do with the occult?* * why are you people always quick to point fingers at people who dare to probe into the mysteries through the occult as satanists, then enjoy the benefits of their discoveries with the other hand? These is really sad. * * speak for yourself, don't speak for me. The scales in your eyes have not off, for you to see clearly*

1 question only. What is the Source of the Occult?

ccarefulwind2:


I will explain based on the Christian religious concept and be very brief.

Christian maturity is a process that begins when a person accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. He or she is
born again of the Holy Spirit and then chooses to live "in Christ."

Therefore, in order for Christian maturity to develop in your life, you must make a choice to learn God's
Word, allow God to renew your mind, and then be obedient to what you learn. Romans 12:1-2 says,
"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of
this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve
what God's will is - his good, pleasing and perfect will."


How they misuse these knowledge? I will name but one. Which is ;

The Tongue : The control of the tongue is the greatest mark of Christian maturity, not only Christian maturity but spiritual maturity. But many Christians use their tongue to defile the very knowledge they were taught, by using it for their own gain or to hurt others.

Ponder on the following :

* James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

James 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be

3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

Okay. So, the misuse of Tongue is the reason these your mystery pastors choose to keep the deep teachings of Christ or Occult Christendom knowledge secret to some but reveal them to those they had watched and personally mentored?

Do you know that soooooo many satanist take that label pastors when they are indeed agents of darkness? Yes, they are and the Lord warned us about them.
And, i think that is the crowd you are rolling with.

Oh wait!!!!!, Lest i forget, you called The Lord Jesus, The Lord of the Heaven and Earth. The Beginning and the End. the author of Life and Light an Occultist. Yeah you did.

This is where i end my discussion with you.

Anas09:

To know more about Life you need to know the deep things that defines and moves it? And these deep things are found in the Occult? Wait a sec. If i hand you an invention you had never seen before, you wouldn't know what it is or it's purpose or use. The invention itself wouldn't be able to tell you either, it's only the creator or the manufacturer of that invention can tell you what the invention is and what it is for. Will it be rational to boycott the inventor and resort to asking someone else?

General Olusegun Obasanjo brought the GSM to Nigeria is not enough to bypass Nokia manufacturers and other GSM companies at that time and go to Obasanjo and say 'Teach me the deep things of GSM'.

God is Life. Everything on this earth comes from Him, but, instead finding out about life from Him, you'd go to a lair?

Don't you think that if Satan is the author of life he'd ve created his own specie of humans instead of possessing you guys and trying to live on earth as flesh because Jesus was able to do it?


Why not? You want to discuss the Occult, but rather not talk about Satan? See? this is the point. You guys lie to yourselves and others, trying downplay satan, when he is the center of occult. Some will even to on to tell us that satan does not exist. Why does satan likes hiding?

We shd discuss standing on what premise? It's like saying 'let's discuss the Bible, but not Jesus'. Wow.


Your emoji expresses your state of mind to your readers. Yeah, it incites humor but also conveys messages.


I'll pray for you today. This evening. Yesterday was solely for Jesus. It was Hosanna Service. Praisefare. All praise offering and dance to the Lord. We asked for nothing.

Today, i shall pray for encounter for you.You'lll be a viable vessel for His use. You have a sharp mind, kind demeanour and some what gentle spirited

Can i recommend a book for you? Promise you read it.

"Secrets of Heaven", by Emmanuel Swedenborg.
download the PDF version and read pls.

'True Christianity', by the same author will turn you down side up. becos right now, your state is upside down. No offense pls. i was like you too.

* you say it is only the creator or the manifacturer of the invention that can tell me what the invention is and what is for? Yet you call it satanic for one to go in search of the creator, to know how the invention came about? Very funny. * * we still came back to the point of these thread. All i sense from you, just like others before you, is fear of the unknown, when you dare into the occult. And in defense to these fear, you accuse them (occultists) of being satanists, dark and evil, forgetting that these accusations has also been discovered times without numbers in your church. But you prefer not to admit it. * * i tell you, do not be afraid of them, for they are among the best and bright minds you will always meet.*

Anas09:

So, if you say the branch of Christianity the said pastors practice their members will know?


Its as simple as saying 'Evangelical'. No name mentioned, no denomination mentioned.

Lolzzz. I think you made that up.

I still stand by my words

Dorammy:
Gather here people, hear what guru is saying about Jesus....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0tOHJlAtE

welcome

Anas09:

Oh, this is how you came up with an Occultic Jesus?

Listen, before Spencer was born, the Bible was in existence. I think we should go with the older book written by many authors, than with one.

By the way, you can help us and post what Spencer says about Jesus here. You see, i have a life, i don't have that time to read Spencer.

read the book then we will discuss more on it

Anas09:

I did all of that. What is your point?

Trying to know the deeper things of YHWH, which not everybody knows, is called what?

Anas09:

Okay. So, the misuse of Tongue is the reason these your mystery pastors choose to keep the deep teachings of Christ or Occult Christendom knowledge secret to some but reveal them to those they had watched and personally mentored?

Do you know that soooooo many satanist take that label pastors when they are indeed agents of darkness? Yes, they are and the Lord warned us about them.
And, i think that is the crowd you are rolling with.

Oh wait!!!!!, Lest i forget, you called The Lord Jesus, The Lord of the Heaven and Earth. The Beginning and the End. the author of Life and Light an Occultist. Yeah you did.

This is where i end my discussion with you.

so now you agree with me that even some pastors in your church, are evil? Yet you point fingers at only occultists, as being evil, forgetting the fact that in every surrounding, organisation, religion, etc, you will always find good and evil, staring at your face.*thanks for your contribution dear friend*

I make it clear on these day, that just as we have good and bad pastors, imams, monks, spiritualists, etc that is how we also have good and bad Occultists.

There are always two sides to a coin.

The occult (hidden knowledge) itself is not evil, people make it look evil. Though, you have to be careful not to be mislead by the left hand path walkers, allowing them to pollute your studies will do you more harm than good.

As for me, i prefer the right hand path and once in a while, i jump to the middle path, to keep me abreast with whats going on, on the other path.

Note: The right hand path is better and more safer, than the middle path and the left hand path.

There is nothing to be afraid of the Occultist, they are humans with emotions like you, so don't be afraid to walk up to them and ask them about their practices, they will gladly accept you with open arms, if your motives are genuine.

Thanks

Peace...

ccarefulwind2post=73126705:

so now you agree with me that even some pastors in your church, are evil?
See why i asked you the Sect your Pastor was? You declined to mention because you knew you'd be busted. You've been talking to a wolf in Sheep Clothing pretending to be a Pastor. He is just like you trying to claim that Christianity is Occult with hidden knowledge.

And sir. none of my Pastors is evil. What Gospel will they preach? With this same Bible? Under whose unction? Satan? Plssss. Maybe you don't know that We all belong to different kingdoms and the Spirits controlling these kingdoms are with us. They communicate to us what is going on.

I am not a 'My Pastor said Christian', i am 'My Bible Says'. I'm not a lazy Christian. I make sure to study to keep like you and your fake pastors away. I read everything printed in English. Islam, Occult, New Age. Everything. I know that people like you abound, i arm myself against them.
[quote author=ccarefulwind2post=73126705]
Yet you point fingers at only occultists, as being evil, forgetting the fact that in every surrounding, organisation, religion, etc,

There's no evil in any Christian as there's no evil in Christ. A good tree bears good fruits, not bad.

Jesus is Truth and Light. There's no lie in Truth, and there's no darkness in Light. So also His followers.

Like their Master satan who pretends to be an angel of light, they pretend to be Christians does not mean they are
Sitting in Church won't make a person a Christian any more than sitting in a garage will make him a Car. If he is bearing godly fruits, he shall be cut off and be thrown into the Fire.

Satan is the father of all lairs, and the prince of darkness and nothing good can come out of him. If there's any, mention one.

ccarefulwind2post=73126705:

you will always find good and evil, staring at your face.*thanks for your contribution dear friend*

There's evil in Christ, hence can not be in his followers.

Good day to you.

ccarefulwind2:
Trying to know the deeper things of YHWH, which not everybody knows, is called what?

It's call growth. And, it's not hidden and done in secret.

ccarefulwind2:
read the book then we will discuss more on it

My hands are full right now. I just finished True Christianity Vol. 1 & 2. I reading Divine Love and Divine Wisdom. Divine Providence is waiting for me. So, i don't have to read any Conspiracy theory by an Occult who believes satan created the universe.

ccarefulwind2:
I still stand by my words

Oh Well. It's either you ve been talking to a Christian Science devotee or a Spiritualist, an agent of Satan in the midst of the Sheep.

Their time go come.

ccarefulwind2:

* you say it is only the creator or the manifacturer of the invention that can tell me what the invention is and what is for? Yet you call it satanic for one to go in search of the creator, to know how the invention came about?

Your evasiveness is commendable. You refuse to say who the source of Occult is.

Did the Creator say you should search for him through the Occult hidden knowledge? Are you sure you believe that Jesus is the creator of Heaven and Earth, the Source of all things.
The Bible is an open book. The Holy Spirit is readily accessible, yet you need the Occult to know Jesus? lolz

ccarefulwind2:

Very funny. * * we still came back to the point of these thread. All i sense from you, just like others before you, is fear of the unknown, when you dare into the occult

If you know satan as i know him, he'lll cease from being a monumental mystery to you. Then you'd know that not everyone accords him reverence that you do. I am human created in God's image, he is not. I am vested with the glory of God. he is darkness and will remain so. he is so jealous of me to the point of trying to kill me.

If you know what fear is, you won't attribute to me. Isn't it insane to be fearful of dark in the middle of day light? I live in Light, i can never fear darkness.

ccarefulwind2:

And in defense to these fear, you accuse them (occultists) of being satanists, dark and evil, forgetting that these accusations has also been discovered times without numbers in your church. But you prefer not to admit it. *

I will respond to this if you'd tell me their Source. Everything has a source, What is the source of Occult?

ccarefulwind2:

. * i tell you, do not be afraid of them, for they are among the best and bright minds you will always meet.*

You really make me laugh with this your delusions.

I don't need to go into the Occult to know Satan. I know him.

Enjoy your occultism. Everyday that passes is a countdown to us dying. When we do, you'd wish you heed my warning and left satan alone.

Good bye.

Anas09:

1 question only. What is the Source of the Occult?

occult simply means ''hidden''. and yea, Jesus had a secret school, which met in a secret place, known by a secret name, and also had secret disciples. all of these claims are clearly shown in pages of new testament.

the only reason these claims are unbelievable, heretical and blasphemous to you is because you have demonized the word, ''occult''.

ccarefulwind2:
I make it clear on these day, that just as we have good and bad pastors, imams, monks, spiritualists, etc [b[ that is how we also have good and bad Occultists. [/b]

There are always two sides to a coin.

The occult (hidden knowledge) itself is not evil, people make it look evil. Though, you have to be careful not to be mislead by the left hand path walkers, allowing them to pollute your studies will do you more harm than good.

As for me, i prefer the right hand path and once in a while, i jump to the middle path, to keep me abreast with whats going on, on the other path.

Note: The right hand path is better and more safer, than the middle path and the left hand path.

There is nothing to be afraid of the Occultist, they are humans with emotions like you, so don't be afraid to walk up to them and ask them about their practices, they will gladly accept you with open arms, if your motives are genuine.

Thanks

Peace...

You mean by the bolded that there's good and bad satan. If you believe the Black and White witches lie being sold by agents of satan then, sorry o.

Why is Occult hidden you won't answer. What or who is it's source?

ccarefulwind2:
I make it clear on these day, that just as we have good and bad pastors, imams, monks, spiritualists, etc that is how we also have good and bad Occultists.

There are always two sides to a coin.

The occult (hidden knowledge) itself is not evil, people make it look evil. Though, you have to be careful not to be mislead by the left hand path walkers, allowing them to pollute your studies will do you more harm than good.

As for me, i prefer the right hand path and once in a while, i jump to the middle path, to keep me abreast with whats going on, on the other path.

Note: The right hand path is better and more safer, than the middle path and the left hand path.

There is nothing to be afraid of the Occultist, they are humans with emotions like you, so don't be afraid to walk up to them and ask them about their practices, they will gladly accept you with open arms, if your motives are genuine.

Thanks

Peace...

Still keeping mute to my question.

@ccarefulwind2, with which organization do you study?