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Lionessza6:


LOL. Do you guys have popular comedians in Ethiopia ? If so , do they use English?.

None of our comedians are popular internationally. We do have many comedians and none of them use English.

ednited:


Yep. when we try to remove the evil on power, then they are helping Oromos to come after us.These people are real evil. They created false history too. They hate people who love Ethiopia. They come after you when you teach patriotism. They also tried to divide the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. They killed many people, they stole 23 BILLION US DOLLARS. Imprison people who reveals the truth. You dont know them.

but i always hear oromos are the victims and what tribe are you

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ednited:


All Ethiopians were victims. Especially Oromos and Amharas. But now after Abiy came, Oromos are trying to attack other Ethiopians. Amharas are still victims. I am not saying this because I am Amhara. Every Ethiopian has witnessed how my tribe was being tortured. You also knew Oromos were victims because they say that no one was tortured like them. LIE!! All Ethiopian is hurt. You haven't heard about Amharas being victim because the media don't tell.

Thousands of Amhara ladies has been vaccinated so they can't reproduce. Thousand of Amhara youths are still missing. Many Amharas has been killed and their land was stolen and sold to Sudan. WHAT IS MORE THAN THIS??

i have no words to explain that mi lady why are they doing this ?

Jonraid:
The revenue sharing formula is fare, we need like 35% of revenues going to the counties up from the current 15%!

The revenue sharing formula hasn't been the problem really!

Okay great but I meant the allocation of funds between less privileged and more privileged counties,seems not be somehow fair at some point though.

Wakenya wenzangu niliuliza swali kuhusu serikali ya ugatuzi nchini Kenya na ila ni mmoja amenijibu pekee,ningependa kusikia maoni ya baadhi ya wengine wenu.
Ahsante.

Jonraid:
I think you settled this with rvp2018. And the clear winner was seen.But your brains have always been small to pick whose ahead of the other.We ranked higher at 25 in retail,higher than you.We showed you how your telecom sector isn't really making the money commensurate with it's population and even GDP.In the banking sector,your bank assets don't just seem to match that big good for nothing GDP.Our numbers are really solid per capita wise.This is our point.Take it or leave it.It seems Yemi Kale has really done your heads that your thinking has been limited.You just don't see the broad scope of things.When Kenya has 3 x,Nigeria with that GDP and population shouldn't be having 4x or 5x but rather 9x or slightly more! We are talking of a 350 billion GDP that should be showing more not slightly less to Kenya or worse!

You are sick. Nigerian companies dominates your service sector

Nigerian banks like gtb, uba,ecobank(west African) have decent share in your bank asset

Nigeria firm dominates your online retail with 80% market share

The same firm over dominates your real estate.
What would you guys do without Nigeria?

Lionessza6:


I think you are the ones with inflated egos here . So after compensating them , you gave some of them" their " land back ,?. Very nice of you . I hope it was as sweet as you made it sound though . Jokes aside , I don't think Mugabe was as shortsightted as you implied , that's a popular and more accepted rhetoric though but it ain't true .

Actually no. As Kikuyu1 has pointed out, the ones who remained are the ones who maintained a wait and see approach. They had their things packed ready to run any time but never had their land taken in the first place. Unless am wrong again. The thing is they were a tiny fraction of the former numbers. Most whites were too scared to stay.

Mugabe wasnt too shortsighted but certainly he failed to foresee the sanctions that crippled Zim. I think they are now going back to the same old problem he was trying to fight, now freely giving the land back to white farmers. TBH, of all countries in Sub sahara that were settler colonies, Kenya is the only one that managed to get it right the first time. All of the others either let all the whites stay, hence immense shortages of land for indigenous Africans (S.A, Namibia, Angola) or waited far too long to take neccessary action, and still got it horribly wrong (Zim). Now, the modern day land issues we have in Kenya is a whole different problem on its own, and its tied to the initial land problem we had with settlers. Most of the land taken from settlers went to wealthy, influential and mostly political families not to mention they were mostly members of Jomo Kenyatta's tribe, the new colonists (sic). We have serious land issues but now its between us the indigenous inhabitants, not with invaders. But overally, we did one hell of a good job to chase all the thousands of settlers without repercussions. Most of the countries that never did what we did in the 60s will discover just how hard, in fact next to impossible, it is to chase white settlers/repossess their land NOW without suffering embarrassing, inhumane and depriving consequences. Zim is one example with their record inflation. You could be next

Yobeezy:
Wakenya wenzangu niliuliza swali kuhusu serikali ya ugatuzi nchini Kenya na ila ni mmoja amenijibu pekee,ningependa kusikia maoni ya baadhi ya wengine wenu.
Ahsante.

ugatuzi ni poa lakini corruption ndio inafaa ikuwe tamed in my county for example roads zimejengwa na county govt lkni cost huwa mostly inflated so they should be a proper way to audit those contracts

Jonraid:
I think you settled this with rvp2018. And the clear winner was seen.But your brains have always been small to pick whose ahead of the other.We ranked higher at 25 in retail,higher than you.We showed you how your telecom sector isn't really making the money commensurate with it's population and even GDP.In the banking sector,your bank assets don't just seem to match that big good for nothing GDP.Our numbers are really solid per capita wise.This is our point.Take it or leave it.It seems Yemi Kale has really done your heads that your thinking has been limited.You just don't see the broad scope of things.When Kenya has 3 x,Nigeria with that GDP and population shouldn't be having 4x or 5x but rather 9x or slightly more! We are talking of a 350 billion GDP that should be showing more not slightly less to Kenya or worse!

Is rvp2018 CIA, IMF, UNWTO, WHO, etcetera? Clown!

Despite your stable democracy, you are still down the pecking order.

Yobeezy:
Since the ammendment of 2010 New constitution,devolution has been the most transformative and controversial aspect of Kenya's governance,to what extent do you agree or disagree with this statement clearly labelling relevant examples?
Please my fellow Kenyans let's engage our brave discussions here.

Cc rvp2018,Jonraid,Kur17,TayserMahiri,gallivant,kikuyu 1,tlann,mtisTheQubuit etc

For me devolution is great. Every region gets to control their development, not the centre. Im totally against the constitution amendment at this early stage as regards this matter. When will Kenyans learn to use their brains and not be led around by the nose by politicians? I dont believe for a minute any money saved from a leaner representation will help anything. It is peanuts, and it will still be stolen. Lets fight corruption first and then we can review the constitution later if we find that still neccessary.

Other than devolving corruption, I dont see any other demerit of devolution.

kikuyu1:


Those that left were compensated at 8x the value of their improvements. Here's the vid of him and the remaining settlers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dyeaTk8S-Y

Noted! 8 X was too big. At such a price, little wonder the lands went to the who's whos.

Kur17:


Jeeez what kind of education do you people get...?, seems like an average Kenyan is one of the most informed person

I've also noticed, not just compared to the Naijjans, btw!

rvp2018:
Those are just facts. Zimbwabwe were historically some of most educated Africans. That is difference btw South Africans black and Zims. Zims are still upto now generally better educated. But that didn't stop them from going down.I think I should add your inability and dithering with HIV - as another head-wind - and one more reason why Kenya will possibly overtake you soon.

This land seizure with compensation is bad news. It would be such a shame to see you go Zim way. We want to beat a strong South Africa.

I've heard similar from several people about the education thing from Zims,Ugandans and Kenyans over the years. They were variously uni students,consultants and independent businessmen.

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It seems Kenyans like trolling nairaland

Yes Zims are generally better educated and that make them a little insufferable like Kenyans.Ugandas too have historically been good.Nigerians older generation were quite good and then with oil boom ( crisis for everyone else) of 70s everything went south....now you see the kind of morons and criminals we are dealing with..more like African American who still need a miracle to complete high school.What helped Zim and codemned South Africa was Apartheid..separating races meant black South Africans couldn't even benefit from Asian leave alone white teachers or school until 90s or 2000s.I am not surprised if new lot..under 15 are fairing better now..but older generation are Malemas and Zuma's..not even Mandelas who thrived long before Apartheid.US has a somewhat de facto apertheid that confine blacks to the bottom permanently..Black kid in college is still so unlikely you'd think it was South Sudan.

kikuyu1:


I've heard similar from several people about the education thing from Zims,Ugandans and Kenyans over the years. They were variously uni students,consultants and independent businessmen.

Jonraid:
Devolution should have been there since independence in my opinion. It has been transformative in the sense that we are opening up new investments at the grassroots levels in a much quicker pace than before. I've personally felt it but just like the World Bank says,we need to strengthen it.Going forward,I need to see the economic blocks made up of various counties doing big things.On the other side of the coin,it has been controversial in the idea that it has devolved corruption and lead to over-representation. However,I always choose to remain an optimist,devolution to me is one of the cogs that we needed for our growth and prosperity. I need to see more funds channelled towards strengthening devolved governance.

Overall to me just like the way a Kenyan would put it,devolution has been a gamechanger.It's the best thing to have come since sliced bread.If we strengthen it,we will reap much from it without a doubt!

Frankly,we were politically unready for the challenges and responsibility. Even now, I'd say we still need another two election cycles til at least 75% of us, govs and senators included fully imagine individual county potential.
Our lowered poverty rate as you know is largely a result of devolution! By 2030 I see us with 6-8% poverty, max!

A few may feel a little frustrated because the greatest impact is happening in remote counties seeing their first c section or tarmac but Kenya political and economic stability lies in devolution and eventually federalism.

kikuyu1:


Frankly,we were politically unready for the challenges and responsibility. Even now, I'd say we still need another two election cycles til at least 75% of us, govs and senators included fully imagine individual county potential.
Our lowered poverty rate as you know is largely a result of devolution! By 2030 I see us with 6-8% poverty, max!

Slaveryisgood:


Who asked you white racist pig . Why are you on a black forum . Or you are here to pick up your Zulu hoe of stupid lionessza6 . I wish she give your stupid white pig ass aids . White South Africans and their Zulus are the most stupid people on earth, ugly craps.

bantudra:


that thing is white....??

send am to me...let me deal with lucifer personaly....
that blue eyed basstard piss me off no be small....

Wow would you look at that I am actually white!!

BTW I live in the Garden Route, Western Cape

Send me a PM and I'll personally fetch you at George airport if you are so keen to deal with me.

Unfortunately I'm 100% positive you two keyboard warriors won't do sh!T!!

ednited:


The past government is the one who did all this to Amharas and Oromos. After they were thrown off power, they started helping out Oromo party to rule the country for next time.

They did this to Amhara people because they are number one opposers of the government. They also don't want Amharas to reproduce. Don't get me wrong but in my opinion, it is the Nazi thing coming the other way. Amharas are believed to be serious orthodox Christians. Many secrets are still hidden in Gonder churches. Gondar is Amhara city. Nazi tried to destroy Jews killing them. The past government also don't want us to reproduce. Scary fact. . .


But they fooled the Oromo people that they will help them to get on power after Abiy came. So now Oromos are being friends with their enemy and that Amharas are their common enemies. .

BUT NOT ALL OROMOS ARE LIKE THIS. THERE ARE VERY GOOD ONES LIKE OUR LEADER.

Amharas and Oromos has lived for many years together as one. They have reproduced and lived together.They betrayed us to get on power. It's betrayal. I am majority Amhara but i still have Oromo blood in me. I cant accept i am even 4% Oromo because I don't stand with these people. I am ashamed of all they are doing.


This is the moment when Ethiopia stretches her hand to God. I stretch my hands to him so that my people could wake up and realize what they are causing.


God help us. He is the only one to save us. He is the only hope and only protector.

* I don't feel safe discussing this on public. I am going to delete it just after you read it.

okay what i know is the past Ethiopian leaders have been tigrayan i have heard the beauty of the orthodox temples the question is why did they what to destroy them

Yobeezy:


they ought to disburse more funds to the less privileged regions than the highly privileged regions like the eastern,western,central and coastal parts of Kenya.
Counties like Turkana,marsabit,wajir etc should be given prior attention on this,the government needs to revise its allocation methodologies.

This will kill devolution completely. People dont care how poor you are so long as they also have problems to deal with in their own counties. As a matter of fact those so-called priviledged counties are already hurting and complaining with the current revenue allocation formula. People now want the revenue sharing to also consider how much wealth a county creates. You cant be creating wealth to develop others. It is an unpopular stand but thats the feeling on the ground.

jln115:



Wow would you look at that I am actually white!!

BTW I live in the Garden Route, Western Cape

Send me a PM and I'll personally fetch you at George airport if you are so keen to deal with me.

Unfortunately I'm 100% positive you two keyboard warriors won't do sh!T!!

Hope you didn't kill that poor animal

Nairobi & top 5 cities would take everything.And when Turkana or another poor county get oil or gold then forget about it.Central already have the privilege of producing most of country leadership..and have had the presidency of 30 yrs.Its mindboggling when someone privelleged spread baseless propaganda like White America are doing.This kind of selfishness is myopic and dangerous.Just visit those counties up north and see the kind of challenge they are confronting.This nonsense is just local central politicians salivating about larger share to steal .they imagine if they had Turkana 13b compared to 3b they get now.The so called problem in historically privelleged counties is nothing compared to what Somalis or Turkanas are facing ..Want to be selfish.. split the country already and the UN can descend there to help them without middle class excuses.

TayserMahiri:


This will kill devolution completely. People dont care how poor you are so long as they also have problems to deal with in their own counties. As a matter of fact those so-called priviledged counties are already hurting and complaining with the current revenue allocation formula. People now want the revenue sharing to also consider how much wealth a county creates. You cant be creating wealth to develop others. It is an unpopular stand but thats the feeling on the ground.

Kazikazi:
Tanzania, dar es salaam

Wow. This beats Nairobi any day any time. No wonder you have twice the amount of tourist dey do

darfay:



Hope you didn't kill that poor animal

It's just sleeping........permanently

tlann:
okay what i know is the past Ethiopian leaders have been tigrayan i have heard the beauty of the orthodox temples the question is why did they what to destroy them

It was the those Tigray leaders who did this to us.

I didn't want to mention about the churches much not to go out of topic. There are many bibles stolen from Ethiopia. Ancient Ethiopians have given many information on everything. These informations are hidden in our churches.

Do you know the New world order? The past government is literally evilish. Why do you think they put the star (illumnanti star) on the center of our flag? Why do you think they are chasing Amhara people? Why do you think they want to attack religious city? Why do you think Ethiopia is their target?

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahdo Church is one of the ancient religion in the world. They also made plans to weaken it. Why do you think it is? This church has many many things hidden. Even we the followers aren't allowed to know. The secrets are all kept by priests

rvp20182:
Nairobi & top 5 cities would take everything.And when Turkana or another poor county get oil or gold then forget about it.Central already have the privilege of producing most of country leadership..and have had the presidency of 30 yrs.It mindboggling when some privelleged spread baseless propaganda like White America are doing.This kind of selfishness is myopic and dangerous.Just visit those counties up north and see the kind of challenge they are confronting.This nonsense is just local central politicians salivating about larger share to steal .they imagine if they had Turkana 13b compared to 3b they get now.The so called problem in historically privelleged counties is nothing compared to what Somalis or Turkanas are facing ..Want to be selfish.. split the country already and the UN can descend there to help them without middle class excuses.

Look, my friend I dont know what happens but it seems things pan out the same way everywhere in the world. I think its natural human selfishness.

Nevertheless, one of the easiest and quickest ways to kill devolution is asking less and less money to be allocated to better off counties, and this money added to worse off counties. That was my only point to Yobeezy. The Central region was just an example. I dont want to get bogged in the issue, I also found it rather selfish, but its nonetheless something that will be looked into sooner or later.

ednited:


It was the those Tigray leaders who did this to us.

I didn't want to mention about the churches much not to go out of topic. There are many bibles stolen from Ethiopia. Ancient Ethiopians have given many information on everything. These informations are hidden in our churches.

Do you know the New world order? The past government is literally evilish. Why do you think they put the star (illumnanti star) on the center of our flag? Why do you think they are chasing Amhara people? Why do you think they want to attack religious city? Why do you think Ethiopia is their target?

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahdo Church is one of the ancient religion in the world. They also made plans to weaken it. Why do you think it is? This church has many many things hidden. Even we the followers aren't allowed to know. The secrets are all kept by priests

was emperor haile selaissie a tigray and why is he idolized i thought those new world order thing was just a conspiracy but i don't believe in Illuminati things anyway iam an atheist

Kazikazi:
Who's building your Kenyan railway?

Who is building yours?

mtisTheQubit:

Boss tell me ,is ths a city, a town or what is it? What i know its called Ibadan, the capital of Oyo state.

I know that place very well but I never noticed until after 4 years living in that city because it is not up to 0.01% of the city.

The truth is, that place is a tourist site because it was the war camp of old Oyo empire.

Even some of the indigenes who are now billionaires, own one family house there to indicate they are truly son of the soil. Most house are empty.

It's the old part of Ibadan. The new park beat Mombasa hands down in terms of infrastructure.

Don't go there.