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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:19am On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:19am On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:19am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Nowenuse:TayserMahiri no run away come answer question gallivant come help ur mumu bushman like you wey don high 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:22am On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:29am On Nov 22, 2018 |
gallivant:It is their country, it is their right. Very soon the sophisticated Tanzanian Army will invade Kenya and take your president and coward country people as slaves, that should give u worries. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:34am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Nairaland Kibera president, TayserMahiri don high abeg make him people come carry am
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:36am On Nov 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri, TayserMahiri, how many times I don warn u make u no dey drink that nonsense chang'aa?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:41am On Nov 22, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: Which Tanzanian army? Our budget and inventory is way above their grade and they know it. Keep on kissing kazikazi butt, he has figured you are all morons. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:02am On Nov 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Not to jump in to arguments that don't concern me but , is South Africa not more highly ranked than Kenya in almost all literacy rankings ?. The other poster posted about UNESCO, so I'm not understanding . I also saw a post by Rvp2018 stating that black South Africans only got formal education in the 90s and 2000s, and i beg to differ. When i arrived in south Africa there were a lot of educated people, remember they had black colleges and universities as well. And some did attend the white dominated ones. University of Bophuthatswana University of Vista University of Venda Medical university of South Africa University of Transkei University of Fort Hare These are the ones I read about and some training colleges for teachers , nurses and other related professions . I think some of the names have been changed though with all the mergers that have taken place , lionesssza6 can do an update . How do you think they were able to have law firms, doctors , accountants and independent consultants, if there had no formal education? . Or are you saying these universities and colleges were ghost houses , again I'm not understanding ?. What was the percentage of both literate and educated Kenyans at independence ?. In Naija we had only one university with about two thousand graduates . Another curious matter , how many white people did you have to chase out in Kenya?. What weapons did you use and who made them ? . Did the British have nuclear weapons in Kenya or were they only fighting with normal weaponry ?. How many settlers did Kenyetta give land to ? Was it paid for? And did he give them this land after they received their compensation like the rest ?how were the ones left behind chosen ?. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:50am On Nov 22, 2018 |
mtisTheQubit: becareful with her she is from the Cape . Just thought I should warn ya in advance . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:58am On Nov 22, 2018 |
jln115: I hope you are not one of the wanted poachers Malema wants castrated . Are you a legal hunter or a criminal ? . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:21am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Why is Tanzania not well developed like S.A you have all minerals like south africa starting from gold diamonds and other precious stones apart from that you have huge gas reserves more tourist potential than kenya huge land mass huge population but you still depend on hoarding cashew nuts and your gdp is the size of nairobi gdp i asked the tanzanian guy yesterday he didnot answer me perhaps he can answer me today 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:25am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Lionessza6: I heard the Gautrain was not all South African made though , there was also a role played by a Canadian consortium. But it's always nice that your government prioritises South African big and small companies and labour before contracting foreigners, although I think you guys can be too demanding when it comes to this transformation process. I know it's part of the agenda to have as many black owned ( moreso youth and women) construction companies getting big contracts but these two groups have also made some mistakes like the bridge collapse in limpopo and others due to lack of experience. I think working much longer under experienced companies or contractors would be ideal . It's an admirable move that your government is empowering more indigenous companies though. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:38am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Bantus mainly practiced farming,hardly a question this is! There was no reason for them to own the vast arid and semi arid Northern Kenya!They chose only the green places! Nowenuse:
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:39am On Nov 22, 2018 |
You're jumping all over - quoting data from different sources and methodologies. I gave you 2018 latest revenue data from the dominant players...MTN Nigeria and Kenya's Safaricom. Kenya telcom sector as of now is Safaricom 65% - and rest 35% (Airtel, Safaricom, Equitel & Jamii(internet only) & other small players). Safcom first half of 2018 boast of 1.2B dollars...MTN Nigeria (who have 40% or around telcom market) got 1.6B dollars. forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:52am On Nov 22, 2018 |
I think you're trying to underplay the role of Apertheid on black education. Whites & Asians got world class education while blacks got a raw deal.SA’s education system is rated 134th out of 138 in the WEF’s 2016-17 Global Competitiveness Report. Below is South Africa 2017-2018 ranking according to WEF Global Competitiveness report. Runalong333: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:52am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Lionessza6: Don't reply to everything here , many people simple don't know what they are talking about. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:55am On Nov 22, 2018 |
I think South Africa need to fix their education - they seem to be competing with a way poorer kenya - at least according to GEF 2017-2018 1) South Africa 2) Kenya 3) Nigeria - the laggards http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2017-2018/05FullReport/TheGlobalCompetitivenessReport2017%E2%80%932018.pdf 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: Mr man stop telling us about how worse apartheid was for black South Africans , we already know this . Tackle the points I raised and provide links like you provide links to everything. Stop trying to escape your earlier assertions . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:00am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: Kenya should be waaay ahead of South Africa because like you said earlier, the black people over there received a raw deal . So why are you then now competing with them and not fairing better , taking into account that you had all the time to fix your education and everything else from 1963 vs their 1994 case . I actually think you ought to be ashamed of yourselves than chest beat. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:01am On Nov 22, 2018 |
According to latest The Global Competitiveness Report 2017 South Africa's Quality of Education is as bad as Nigeria (ranked 114 against 118) against Kenya's ranked 28!! According to PISA like test done in Southern Countries - for some 10 yrs now - Kenya & Mauritus beat South Africa like a yoruba drum. According to Human Capital ranking - Kenya sit on top of Sub Sahara Africa like a Igbo man on top of his palm tree. Runalong333: 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:04am On Nov 22, 2018 |
You're now arguing like a typical Nigerian thug - South Africa is way richer country - it spend about 3-4 times what we spend on education - I think they easily spend nearly 15B dollars on it's education - we spend like 4-5 dollars on our education. South Africa should be competing with other middle income countries..not Kenya (a lower middle income country). And when it come to education - outside enrollment - Kenya beat South Africa like a drum - which is why Nairobi is competing with Joburg for multinationals. It shouldn't be this way. South Africa majority black got a raw deal until recently. That is just an historical fact. They had education system maybe worse if not equal to kenya (which still would be worse). Runalong333: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:07am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: As you should, South Africa is a recovering country busy with restructuring , you on the other hand are a much more matured democracy which should go with better education and less political instability . You sound like losers right now , feeling all powerful competing against the younger guy still finding his feet lol. You have not addressed my questions, you are just jumping up and down like a chicken high on it's faeces lol. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:08am On Nov 22, 2018 |
With the mediocre leaders we have it seems that the 'poorer' Kenya can brush off shoulders and sit on the same table with the supposedly economic powerhouses of Africa without even trying much! Kenya is like that clever but lazy school boy who get's a B- grade everytime.If only this boy knows his true worth and starts working hard then he'll be a force to be reckoned with! Meanwhile,let us go stealth on our development agenda only for our African counterparts to look back and see that we are almost equals now.That would be a shocker for them! rvp2018: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:12am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: Hahahaha you are now resorting to victimhood ? . Dude stop repeating what even people in Asia, and some remote villages in Europe know , you are becoming pathetic. You are talking about what they spend recently, my original post was about blacks being illiterate before the 90s and 2000s. Can you go back to it and kindly answer all the questions including those about Kenya lol. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:12am On Nov 22, 2018 |
You're incorrigible Nigerian as usual. I long explained why South Africa had issues with it's education by tracing it's root to the unfair apartheid that ensured White & Asian kids got world class education. Then you turn around to challenge that assertion and when presented with facts - you go back and claim I was being unfair to South Africa. You see when Nigerian education & human capital is ranked as worse as Niger & Chad you don't have to look for evidence - just go through this forum - and you'll find overwhelming evidence that you fail in basic English Comprehension, Logic and sound argumentation. Runalong333: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: You are not going to get away with this that easily smart ass . Stop rambling and go back and address my post . Your little attempts at trying to escape the discussion are noticed lol. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:19am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Splitting hairs. Why do we have to go back to 90s when we have latest data? South Africa has it's own serious issues that they have to confront - and one of that - is an education system that just don't work for the majority (esp BLACKS). They need to start by fixing the teaching force...I don't remember the figures..but when given primary school test...only Kenya teachers scored around 91-95% (about the same as Singapore kids)...but other African teachers scored as low as 70-80% - and those are teachers who should have scored 100%. South Africa should well be on it's way to ensure every primary school teacher has a degree. I mean developed countries which is where south africa need to be --- invest heavily in such stuff -- some like Finland have teacher acquiring master degrees before they teach even kindergaten kids - the sector is heavily regulated and well paying. Long and short. South Africa has very low quality system of education. Why it got there is a mostly useless debate - it's there now.South Africa need tough love. Just like Kenya has it's VERY MANY ISSUES. We are faar behind south africa in nearly everything...and maybe this is preposterous . until 2030 - which is when we promised Azanians to have this kind of debate. Runalong333: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:28am On Nov 22, 2018 |
rvp2018: Kikikiki , my guy what is all this rambling about?. You guys claimed you had more literate people than South Africa, I asked why you are ranked below that and you are yet to explain. You said they only got education in the 90s and 2000s and I provided evidence to refute that and also that some did recieve education in the top universities in south Africa and outside , I'm still yet to get my answer there . And I asked you where you thought they got their lawyers, doctors , accountants etc from without any university degrees or diplomas , the answer ?. All I'm seeing is what you did good from 1963 and they are struggling with from 1994 . Please , also tackle the other questions about Kenya before jumping around like a dog on heat once more. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:35am On Nov 22, 2018 |
Nowenuse:Nigerians are just scam The desperation to turn this thread into a torrent of petty arguments is a NO for me. When Nigerians are cornered they find the pettiest excuse to turn a rather erstwhile forum into an abuse match. In order to make you feel happy and to stop trolling the thread i will accept and say "YES", i passed them off as NAIROBI. You can clearly see that instead of writing "Random pictures" i wrote "NAIROBI PICTURES". I hope you will sleep well tonight after the "correction" . What a bunch of morons . 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:37am On Nov 22, 2018 |
You're obtuse. Nothing surprising. You're a Nigerian. Yes South Africa had schools & universities that produced the Zumas & Malemas. They had universities nobody outside South Africa had ever heard. Meanwhile whites had world class schools & universities like University of CapeTown & Witwatersrand churning world class thinkers like Tesl's Elon Musk or Mark Richard Shuttleworth or many Nobel laureates. That is more potent point - being literate - reading & writing is hardly something to sweat about it. You're literate but still as boneheaded as a rock. Where are black Elon Musk of South Africa. They need to fix that. It like African American being proud of their black community college nobody has ever heard of. Otherwise I have nothing but admiration for South Africa level of development. Runalong333: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:40am On Nov 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:Dont bother with them . When they run out of ideas to counter an argument they degenerate into name calling and abuse. In order to make them feel good about themselves i have had to accept that i passed the pictures off as "NAIROBI PICTURES" rather than "Random pictures". Just imagine an entire 2 pages wasted on a pretty self explanatory picture. 2 Likes |
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