krattoss:
Leon Balogun lashes out at black Chyna for his plans to sell bleaching cream when she arrives Lagos

But in a serious note, what do these goose take us for?

komekn:


Firstly, Chukwueze is not the central issue here, but the never ending allegations from presumption, conclusions from assumption and conjecture to make deduction. But they are birthed at least here from self perception. Nobody knows the hearts construction and only God knows the heart of a man.

I often use longer descriptive words and repeatative differing diction, to make matters clear and unambiguous.

I find in my engagements a need to pay attention to detail, not rely on assumption and enshrine clarity otherwise I will have contention. But it seems people read what's in thier mind and not what's written.

I am disappointed with you. Because most times you are objective and substantive in your approach.

I have said maybe twenty times. I have not formed any opinion on Chukwueze. Once again l watched one match and IMO he was not impressive. That's not my sum total of him as a player. I have read his statistics, he has played two games in La Liga with a number of cup games with two goals so far. IMO it's way too early to make projections as to being HUGE TALENT. Otherwise my opinion is that he has a GREAT ATTITUDE is Diligent and disciplined and has very good potential and exceptional talent.

But please look at the bolded, when did I form an all encompassing opinion based on one game ❓ ❓ that in my view would be silly.

I do not hinge my opinion on another person opinion l may consider it but will not under pin my opinion. Because so so said so. I'm sorry that's not me.

I talk to a lot of people in football high and low and they all have different opinions on the same thing.

I gave you an assessment framework using Ssegnon as an example. The boy had played near 100 professional games and he is only 18 and he has been consistently outstanding with top notch MOTM performances. This is his third season of competitive first team football but now in EPL.

Add to that possibly first time in the history of the PFA a Championship players was voted Best young player of the season. The accolades are too numerous to mention first player born in the 2000' s to score in the EPL. This 18 year old is now essentially a seasoned professional. I mean his goal tally and assists last season were phenomenal for a LB. Statistically speaking he was the best, it's not an opinion but a matter of fact.

You are asking me to compare him to Chukwueze who has just started playing first team football. Do you really think that's a fair and balanced approach. How do you compare them. If you wanted to measures and be objective and tried to implement a balance score card assessment it would fail as incomparable.

Guillem is a person I don't rate his opinion as substantive fact or having overriding weight. I have watched Gary Neville make many howlers and get it very wrong many times. All pundits have knowledge but they are not the final word.

Have you noticed l hardly ever refer to pundits to underpin my view. What you may not know is that some of my views come from Managers, coaches and agents, etc.

Once again the issue is not necessarily Chukwueze bit how we make a deduction that a player has outstanding exceptional ability, potential and talent.

I possibly use the term sparingly and many use it anytime a players does a rainbow flick in a match or plays a first team game.

Finally, l go to Anfield quite often but not as often as l could do. So next time your going, watch out l could be sitting next to you. Lol

tbaba1234:


Bleaching cream sells in Nigeria. It is so crazy now, i do not recognise people, i grew up with.

tbaba1234:


A separate thread might be best but i am in support of what others in the group decide.

Icon4s:

Ok. Thanks.

The generality have agreed we discuss here.

Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie.

Committee members who make any contributions should copy all other members.

NOTE: HOUSE, THIS IS A DISCUSSION STRICTLY FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS LISTED ABOVE. THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.

I apologize sir but I thought at least 4 of the committee members wanted a separate thread, icon4s, snerd, joebie and tbaba. I might be mistaken though.

Odunayaw:
but how'd you know

Utonwanne:


Am not trying to rejoin because I have lost the passion as regards to this particular argument- not downplaying sessegnon's abilities also But I must add that most of his goals comes when he plays as a winger not LB

gamaliel9:
On Ebuehi...expected to return Jan 29 2019....

https://www.transfermarkt.com/tyronne-ebuehi/profil/spieler/309944


the thing serious ooo

Icon4s:


Forgiveness, Komekn and I prefer it here. Joebie and TheSuperNerd prefer a separate thread. Tbaba's landing is to go with whatever we generally decide. It was at that point 3 against 2 and so we go with having it here. We have to make progress on that as we have spent 2 days already taking that decision.

Nothing wrong having it here so peeps can see the selection process and so not to cry fowl when the list of nominees is it.

But remember no contributions from none committee members. It is that easy.

Besides, creating another thread will give room for Intruders, who do not know what this is all about, to evade the thread and possibly cause distractions. But we here know the rules alreeady and will more easily abide by it.

komekn:


Agreed

What will be the points criteria.

There have to be some sort of assessment framework loose or rigid.

komekn:


In that case it's toss up between Aghahowa and Babangida.

My opinion is that over the 100 metres Aghahowa rules but Babangida will win the first 10-15 metres, His acceleration was just BLISTERING.

tbaba1234:


Bleaching cream sells in Nigeria. It is so crazy now, i do not recognise people, i grew up with.

EEGA:
Any news on Ebuehi?

zayyadidris:
I agree on Shehule but Collins is the best we have now unless you have someone that can replace him.

EEGA:
Onyekuru really needs to work hard and take his chances.

We can only take 7 forwards to AFCON.Bar injury Kalu and Chukwueze for the RW,Osimhen , Success and Ighalo for CF,Moses Simon(as Rohr may choose to compensate him for missing the WC) and Musa for LW.

Midfield:Ndidi,Etebo, Ogu,Agu,Mikel, Iwobi.

In the middle it's looking like Iheanacho might be sacrificed.

Defence:Balogun,Ekoong,Ajayi,Omeruo,
Aina , Collins and Shehu.

Ebuehi might be sacrificed here due to injury.

GKs:Uzoho,Ezenwa and Akpeyi.

Icon4s:


Forgiveness, Komekn and I prefer it here. Joebie and TheSuperNerd prefer a separate thread. Tbaba's landing is to go with whatever we generally decide. It was at that point 3 against 2 and so we go with having it here. We have to make progress on that as we have spent 2 days already taking that decision.

Nothing wrong having it here so peeps can see the selection process and so not to cry fowl when the list of nominees is it.

But remember no contributions from none committee members. It is that easy.

Besides, creating another thread will give room for Intruders, who do not know what this is all about, to evade the thread and possibly cause distractions. But we here know the rules alreeady and will more easily abide by it.

Danielnino00:
The more I think about it,the more I'm convinced that there will be no midfield addition at the AFCON...Maybe leading to the afcon but certainly not at d tournament proper. Major reason is due to the large pool of attackers at our disposal and Rohr's conservative nature... If the man is serious he will.stop handing call ups to underperforming players like Iheanacho, Etebo,Ogu,Onazi...Even Simeon should be excused cus of lack of playing time at his club... But we all know how d man is like... He might even take 9 attackers and 4 midfielders to Cameroon ..

Joebie:
It looks more like a 3-3 result. Because tbaba said a new thread might be best. Even I will support whatever we decide.

We are not in a hurry. November is not even over yet. We have to look credible in every step of this so the process is not rubbished. Why don’t we wait for Chriskels to break the tie?

Modified
New intruders will not be a problem because they can be easily ignored. We will post the link of the new thread here so other monikers can always check. There is no secrecy. But either way is fine by me. Let Chriskels make a pick

Modified 2
If we finally decide on creating a new thread I would want to suggest we give it a deceptive title. At least that will check the issue of intruders for those who have that concern.

EEGA:
Onyekuru really needs to work hard and take his chances.

We can only take 7 forwards to AFCON.Bar injury Kalu and Chukwueze for the RW,Osimhen , Success and Ighalo for CF,Moses Simon(as Rohr may choose to compensate him for missing the WC) and Musa for LW.

Midfield:Ndidi,Etebo, Ogu,Agu,Mikel, Iwobi.

In the middle it's looking like Iheanacho might be sacrificed.

Defence:Balogun,Ekoong,Ajayi,Omeruo,
Aina , Collins and Shehu.

Ebuehi might be sacrificed here due to injury.

GKs:Uzoho,Ezenwa and Akpeyi.

do4luv14:



bros, so you know AGHOWONDER....... Kai....

na wa ooo sir

groundnutoil:
u really think osimehen would get. the nod ahead of oyekuru
I don't see that happening

Icon4s:

Ok. Thanks.

The generality have agreed we discuss here.

Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie.

Committee members who make any contributions should copy all other members.

NOTE: HOUSE, THIS IS A DISCUSSION STRICTLY FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS LISTED ABOVE. THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.

Icon4s:


But have u agreed with my list of awards categories? Let's settle that first then we roll out selection criteria.

TheSuperNerd:
I am with Joebie on waiting for Chriskels to break the tie as he is also part of the Committee. I trust he will show up whenever he can and soon before the year runs out.


Meanwhile, I suggest a few more categories like:


- Super Eagles Top scorer of the year (That should be distinct from Best Attacker/Best Forward award because in best attacker we look at an attacker's showing across the entire year and not just in a game or two. And sometimes, such player may not be top scorer. We need to recognise the top scorer too because it is not easy putting the ball in the back of the net).


- Super Eagles Top Assists leader of the year (We must recognise the player or players involved the most in laying/putting the ball on a platter for others to score).


- Super Falcons Goal of the year (We cannot restrict this award to the men alone. The ladies do score worldies too. They score goals or don't they?)

- Super Eagles most improved player of 2018 (This is to reward quantum leaps in improvements of certain talents in the team over the course of the year).


- Now the young player of the year is for players 21yrs and under... But what of the Super Eagles best new entrant of the year? Just saying. (modified: I can see that you added it in Number 3... Well done!).

Okay, so these are the few additions I think should be considered too. If I remember any other relevant catergory, I will try bring it up on time. Shalom...

Icon4s:


ChrisKels, Tbaba1234 and Komekn we await your responses on this.

EEGA:
Onyekuru really needs to work hard and take his chances.

We can only take 7 forwards to AFCON.Bar injury Kalu and Chukwueze for the RW,Osimhen , Success and Ighalo for CF,Moses Simon(as Rohr may choose to compensate him for missing the WC) and Musa for LW.

Midfield:Ndidi,Etebo, Ogu,Agu,Mikel, Iwobi.

In the middle it's looking like Iheanacho might be sacrificed.

Defence:Balogun,Ekong,Ajayi,Omeruo,
Aina , Collins and Shehu.

Ebuehi might be sacrificed here due to injury.

GKs:Uzoho,Ezenwa and Akpeyi.

komekn:




At the tail end of his career he came to Wigan where it went disastrously wrong for him.