Jonraid:
He is taking his dose of Nyaope as they call it there in SA.Let him come,I'll sent him packing back to Mzansi!

Sent packing by a dominated willing slave like you? . My friend abeg, don't start with me. I don't have whites and dirty Indians coming to my country to rent my wife and daughters for sex , that's what you broke niggas do over them and then come online to play big boys lol.

I'm talking of South Africa.if it's about Nigeria then this makes it a more boring convo than ever! Kenya has its issues but Nigeria is a different sad story altogether!

Runalong333:



We have been helped by what whites . Mr guy ,Nigeria has been up and down on her own without any whites involved don't get this twisted.

Oh shut up , Kenya never had anything close to our coup and war not to mention the 400 year trauma of the South African populace. Compared to the hardships experienced by the two countries , you should not be even competing with them , we should be thinking Kenya vs Singapore , but hey ?.

You sound like some British columnists , they should just get over apartheid, you do know what that system was about right?. How is talking about their economic, educational, parental and general societal breakdown for so long an excuse ?. You are struggling to deal with the little problems you have , and want to compare with people who had to start from the ground two decades back with so many things , the most important being forming and identity and quality education. Who compared black American and South Africans? . My point here is that you make it seem like you are better off than other Africans yet you are starving , have a lot of illiterate people, slum dwellers and far too many foreigners holding you by the balls in every decision you make with regards to your economy. Nigeria is still chaotic but we are not starving to death while a minority of our leaders are selling the land we need for food to whites to build shiny buildings while their own people back home have plenty of food . With your great education we would expect you to be the throwing hundreds of Shuttleworths at us . We would expect to see better trains built by you, but no . Lol. Foolish if you ask me .

CLOSE THE THREAD NOW.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Will this bullshit stop Nigerians from boarding rickety boats to Europe even if it means dying inside the Mediterranean Sea?
Some of you would even sacrifice your folks just to be given an American green card.
We deceive ourselves a lot in this shithole.

Runalong333:



My friend , you have said nothing here . The South African girl asked you for your literary rate and so did I, where is the ranking ?. She asked you to provide the number of educated Kenyans at independence vs those in south Africa ( black ), we are yet to see this .

I said black kenyans got their independence in 1963 and the South Africans in 1994. Meaning your deluded behinds had 55 years to fix yourselves without any coups and wars or disruptions from world powers. South Africa had 24 years to fix herself , with a lot economic sabotages and problems inherittited from apartheid yet they are your competition . That is why I said you behave like losers with self esteem problems. Nigeria is going through her own problems and still feeling some effects of the war yet we are your competition, even though you had a lot of " peace" in your journey . Now imagine if South Africa and Nigeria didn't go through those hardships . We probably would have a lot of Shuttleworths than you. Yes Indians and whites do dominate the strategic parts of your economy , go and hang yourself if that hurts to listen to.are there any whites and Indians in your kiberas? There are plenty of them in south Africa showing some changes taking place , but we would never see such in Kenya .nigeria has her own masters and they look like me lol.

I will let Nigerians give you an answer to your misplaced glossing
Your assertion seem so confused..

MrHandsome2013:
...
If nigerians are smarter why are they still living in abject poverty..
Why are they killing themselves..
Why cant they use brain to invent or create something that will bring money..
You think being smart means taking another person hard earned money or using your fellow human for ritual..
If we are really smart why did we allow then british people to colonise us.
If we are smart Why do we still run to america for medical treatment.
Why cant we setup a standard medical and health facilities.
Infact your ananlysis are out of point.

A Nigerian who has actually been out of Nigeria unlike you who the furthest you have gone is your village center

claremont:
Lovely thread OP. I have visited Kenya a few times and loved every minute of my time there. Infact, I consider myself more Kenyan than Nigerian because I not only lived there on and off for a couple of months. I spent most of my time in Kenya up North in the rural suburbs like Nanyuki and Isiolo due to the nature of my job then, I really enjoyed living in the remote towns. Kenya is an amazing country where things actually work as the should, it will take Nigeria a good few years to get to the point Kenya is at the moment. The respect they have for their wildlife alone is something Nigerians should emulate. You need to try their food i.e. Ugali + vegetables + barbecue meat/fish. This thread fills me with nostalgic memories.

rvp2018:
That is rich. British left you with BILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL that have earned you billion of dollars and all you did is fight over it and misuse it. South Africa was left with BILLIONS worth of GOLD BULLIONS & DIAMONDS.What did they leave us with? literally nothing. If we had 1/10 of your oil or south africa's gold - we would be so far - but here were are the largest non-mineral economy in Africa.

British took 50 years searching for Oil in Nigeria and when they just started production - you become independent - and all you need was to milk the cow.

Hahahahaha, with every resource any African country has had , they had to deal thousand more problems than you. Don't come here to play victim as if you don't have anything in Kenya , the Tanzanian guy has been exposing your black nyash every day. You might not have a lot but , why not work with what you have to solve your little problems roblens and stop acting big when you are just irrelevant to everyone . If you notice everyone from Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa knew little about you and never bothered to check any facts about you because we never cared for Kenya . It's only now that you attention seekers have gotten our attention. You mean your elites and their whites would have been far ? . You would still be starving like you do my guy, Kenyan elites only care about pleasing whites not you slum dwellers .

Nothing of substance here!

Runalong333:


Sent packing by a dominated willing slave like you? . My friend abeg, don't start with me. I don't have whites and dirty Indians coming to my country to rent my wife and daughters for sex , that's what you broke niggas do over them and then come online to play big boys lol.

Crazy how some people think that we are paid or that we are British columnists!

NairobiWalker:
CLOSE THE THREAD NOW.

After being called out he still has the audacity to come and scatter his mouth around this thread. He knows his country is a sinking boat but has to save face by attacking other countries that seem to be moving forward. I will expose each one of them

Runalong333:


We know this is your little attempt at trying to generate black South Africans, just like you have been trying to do to other Africans and you keep on embarrassing yourselves. Malema was born in the 80s and is a graduate of UNISA which is even rated better than some of your own Universities , and Zuma does not have any degree so I don't understand what you were getting at by mentioning him. Yes , they had unknown schools because they were badly funded for sabotage , duh!. I'm starting to suspect that some of you are paid from outside of Africa to post here , you are too out of touch with African realities including those of kenya lol. Actually we have heard of them , that is why some leaders in Africa studied there silly . You have been glorifying white privilege all over the place , and we are called the white worshippers by you Kenyans . Nigerians have pride , not this silliness. How many white South Africans went to these Universities compared to the majority who didn't even have grade 12 certificates ?. The South African universities were mainly meant for the privilledged not everyone , read and learn and stop reasoning with your changa drinking anus. You mentioned those whites, where are their Kenyan black counterparts ? . They achieved all of that after you are independent and able to attend " your world class universities " , why are you not on par with them?. Nigerians would never delude ourselves , white South Africans had a head start from all blacks in Africa, not even one black country has been able to compete with them favourable. Where are the Shuttleworths of kenya ? . Why are is your manufacturing dominated by Indians and the British even after going to the same schools as you for 55 years ? . Why are almost all the multi- nationals headed by white people and a few ceremonial heads if you all are better educated than most Africans?. It seems all this education you are bragging about is only benefiting the none blacks , because we hardly see any positives from the black Kenyan populace , all we see is the increase of their slums and starvation. Nigeria with our coup and wars , we are dominate everything in our country unlike you loud mouths who think degrading trying Africans will somehow elevate you to something you are not. No wonder you once said your dream is to be like whites lol. That alone made me suspicious about you and your intention here , i doubt any self respecting black man would say that. We can only take you serious when you end starvation , poverty , diseases , non- black economic domination, and produce a better middle class and rich people who are mainly black. For now, you are some pained oppressed blacks who want to drag others down to your hopeless level. Move over and let the real owners of kenya talk . Yes , you admire anything that has white involvement we know . Just like some Europeans take Kenya tourism and development because serious, because they can see the obvious British domination and leadership . Give those British pigs less power over your economy and let's see how fast Kenya ratings will go down , we all know how it works . The more whites get more food than the locals, the better the country is perceived. South Africa is not favourably because they are changing that , Kenya is the new love child , and guess what the slums will continue to grow for the indigenes and the foreigners wi be getting richer .

He was Nigerian all along. I wonder why Nigerians and Tanzanians here have to pretend to be South African to engage us. Is it inferiority complex? This proves we're doing ourselves a disfavor arguing with them. We should be looking at South Africa.

And yet a Nigerian started this thread? Back in 2007.A Nigerian posted about Nairobi in Nairaland. Who cared much about the other?

From 2007 discussing about Kenya? Thanks to all Nigerians who made positive comments about Nairobi in this thread!

https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east

Runalong333:


Hahahahaha, with every resource any African country has had , they had to deal thousand more problems than you. Don't come here to play victim as if you don't have anything in Kenya , the Tanzanian guy has been exposing your black nyash every day. You might not have a lot but , why not work with what you have to solve your little problems roblens and stop acting big when you are just irrelevant to everyone . If you notice everyone from Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa knew little about you and never bothered to check any facts about you because we never cared for Kenya . It's only now that you attention seekers have gotten our attention. You mean your elites and their whites would have been far ? . You would still be starving like you do my guy, Kenyan elites only care about pleasing whites not you slum dwellers .

Trying to get everyone against us.Too shy to admit that he's from Nigeria!

NairobiWalker:


He was Nigerian all along. I wonder why Nigerians and Tanzanians here have to pretend to be South African to engage us. Is it inferiority complex? This proves we're doing ourselves a disfavor arguing with them. We should be looking at South Africa.

Kenyanstar:

After being called out he still has the audacity to come and scatter his mouth around this thread. He knows his country is a sinking boat but has to save face by attacking other countries that seem to be moving forward. I will expose each one of them

True. ...most of them are like that

Jonraid:
I'm talking of South Africa.if it's about Nigeria then this makes it a more boring convo than ever! Kenya has its issues but Nigeria is a different sad story altogether!

I think your story is even more depressing. Little population, little problems, whites and Indians to help you yet you are still starving and living in slums and remote areas ? . Clap for yourselves for being the dumbest imbeciles ever to grace Africa . Nigeria has had a lot more to deal with and the mineral curse like most nations but we are still here and kicking butt. South Africa is what ? Are they not giving you a headache even with the mountain of issues they inherited? Why are you still behind people you call illiterates?. When your country was ripe South Africa of all races was born , crawled while you were still lost , walked and found you only learning the art of running . That is why you are bitter at them. They had way less HDI to you in 1994 , but today you are behind them. They had bad healthcare for blacks but are you fairing any better today , because they have picked up. They had way worse standard of living than the average African with little access to water and sanitation, are they not fairing better than you today under their illiterate leaders? . Kenya is all about mouth and predictions and nothing more . British hired propangandarists

British hired propagandists?

You are really loosing it.Go have a cup of coffee.It would calm down your nerves!

Runalong333:


I think your story is even more depressing. Little population, little problems, whites and Indians to help you yet you are still starving and living in slums and remote areas ? . Clap for yourselves for being the dumbest imbeciles ever to grace Africa . Nigeria has had a lot more to deal with and the mineral curse like most nations but we are still here and kicking butt. South Africa is what ? Are they not giving you a headache even with the mountain of issues they inherited? Why are you still behind people you call illiterates?. When your country was ripe South Africa of all races was born , crawled while you were still lost , walked and found you only learning the art of running . That is why you are bitter at them. They had way less HDI to you in 1994 , but today you are behind them. They had bad healthcare for blacks but are you fairing any better today , because they have picked up. They had way worse standard of living than the average African with little access to water and sanitation, are they not fairing better than you today under their illiterate leaders? . Kenya is all about mouth and predictions and nothing more . British hired propangandarists

You just woke up on page nearly 3,000 otherwise Nigerians have been trying but in vain to prove their country - which is blessed with billions worth of oil & gas - is NOT struggling against kenya.

I don't know why you want to tag along Tanzania (our very lazy neighbour), Ghana (our progressive sibling) or South Africa (who with foreign oil companies ran your economy -mtns, shoprites). You're already 200M people strong and this is your forum.

And yes I am black & very proud of it.

Runalong333:

Hahahahaha, with every resource any African country has had , they had to deal thousand more problems than you. Don't come here to play victim as if you don't have anything in Kenya , the Tanzanian guy has been exposing your black nyash every day. You might not have a lot but , why not work with what you have to solve your little problems roblens and stop acting big when you are just irrelevant to everyone . If you notice everyone from Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa knew little about you and never bothered to check any facts about you because we never cared for Kenya . It's only now that you attention seekers have gotten our attention. You mean your elites and their whites would have been far ? . You would still be starving like you do my guy, Kenyan elites only care about pleasing whites not you slum dwellers .

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A commentary by Valentine Obienyem, the Special Assistant to the Governor of Anambra State (in Nigeria).


ONE of the most profound pronouncements from a Nigerian Minister was the remarks by the Federal Minister of Education, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili. The Honourable Minister said that the Government would review the criteria for the award of honorary doctorate degrees by universities. The bastardisation of awards in Nigeria, which has also crept into the Ivory Towers, is worrisome to well meaning Nigerians.

Ideally, not everybody has the opportunity of pursuing education up to doctorate level, when you are certified as a true expert in your chosen field. However, some people with the requisite experience, even more experienced than academic doctors are conferred with honorary doctorates. We cannot quarrel if any University confers honorary doctorate on person like Chief Austin Ilodibe in transportation, because he is truly experienced even more than the books on transportation. What we quarrel with is placing cash values on the awards, thus honouring even little minds that stumbled into money and use it to buy their way without any form of experience. The key word is experience
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Talking about experience, the wise one says that education comes one fourth from schools, one fourth from experience, one fourth from the teacher and one fourth from travel. We gain much from these sources if we are positively disposed or confront them with open minds. A good example is the refrain of Nigeria being the giant of Africa. The notion of being a giant has made most Nigerians suffer delusions of grandeur, to believe that Nigeria is the first in terms of everything as far as African is concerned. You need the experience of travel to know whether this is true or false.

At the risk of sounding immodest, I have travelled widely within the sub-saharan Africa: Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea (Conakry), and Senegal. Abidjan and Accra are good cities in their own rights. But talking about places like Liberia, Freetown, Conakry, you talk about some primitive, uninspiring towns, where women still go about the towns in the happy ignorance of their unclothedness.

Recently, I had the opportunity of travelling to Kenya, Nairobi, with my Governor and boss, His Excellency, Mr. Peter Obi. Before Mr. Peter Obi became the Governor, he was the Chairman of Fidelity Bank and a Director in many other banks and companies. As a banker and a successful international business man, he moved around the world, from temperate to tropical zone from East to West and North to South attending one course or the other, one conference or seminar or the other.

However, since he became the Governor, he has not been travelling except strictly on official tours. He kept postponing the day he would visit his family in the UK, until the children became tired and had to come to Awka to see him. You may call this the demonstration of the fact that if the mountain cannot go to Muhammed, Muhammed will go to the mountain.

Recently, the Governor had a reason to travel to Kenya. Passionate about having Master plans for Awka, Onitsha and Nnewi, he had to travel to Nairobi to meet with the United Nation HABITAT and Shelter Afrique. Seeing the passion and the eagerness with which the Governor pursed this, the Organisation, as well as Shelter Afrique, promised to help him. Commending him, the under Secretary and Chief Executive of UN HABITAT, Dr. Anna Kajumulo Tibaijuka said that the Governor was a good example on true governace.

Typical of him, to save cost for the State, he travels, locally and internationally with a few people. Beyond saving cost, he always says that those in power find it difficult to relinquish power because they surround themselves with many aides that the prospect of surrendering power becomes frightful to them. Obi reminds me of Chief Chukwuemeka Chikelu, who, as Minister, would go to the counter at the Airport and do things for himself. Once I asked him why, and he said: "I do not want to live a borrowed life even as a Minister, so that any day if I cease being one, it will be easy to continue my normal life. In the case of Governor Obi, he usually tells us that being a Governor will not make him not to live his normal life.

Accept my apologies if I have digressed a bit. On the trip to Nairobi were the Governor and I. We flew Kenyan Airways, which is inscribed "The pride of Africa."


This at once aroused a sense of regret in me as a Nigerian. Is it not the place of former Nigeria's Airways that Kenyan Airways has taken? If not for mismanagement, what would have been of Nigerian Airways? At the time our Airways was functioning, was it not far bigger than Kenyan Airways in many respects? These are necessary questions.

At Nairobi, I saw what was beyond my imagination. Let me go straight to the verdict: Nairobi is far better than any Nigerian city you can possibly think of, including Abuja. Once at the Airport, you are bound to admire the order pervading the entire place. Though not as busy as Muritala Muhammed International Airport, it is better organized. In fact, some people told me, unverified, that the airport was built at the cost of Twenty-Five Million Naira (equivalent); while our own was at the cost of over Two Hundred Million Naira. But the two are big as to relatively cost the same.

Driving from the Airport to the town was a pleasant one. I took time looking at the street lights, and behold not even one bulb was not lit. Straight, we drove to Nairobi Serena Hotel. In fact, when we got there, because it was night, I could not really compare Nairobi and Abuja in terms of aesthetics. But when it was down, I saw Nairobi in its unclothedness.

Being an old city, Nairobi roads are not so wide. However, unlike our own disordered cities, Nairobi is clothed with flowers and the buildings are superior to most that we find in Nigeria. The transport companies, especially the ubiquitious Citi Hopper are far better that intra-city buses in Nigeria. Foreigners enter it with ease, no standing, no careless driving.

Working with Governor Obi is business not pleasure, he makes sure you add enough value to the trip to justify your travelling with him. Though as we were about to land at the airport, some places of interest such as Giraffe Park, Animal Orphanage, Nairobi National Musseum,etc were announced, but we did not go to Nairobi for a picnic, not with my Governor, but for business. On our return, as we touch down Nigerian soil, Kenyan Airways did not announce any place of interest in Nigeria. This is instructive.
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However, in the spirit of adventure, I still managed to look out. Close to the beautiful Serena hotel is the Uhuru Park, a spacious park for recreation. If it were in Nigeria, corner shops would have taken its place. But in Nairobi, it is well maintained, and I understand such parks are all over the place. As you move along Nairobi streets you see public conveniences, neat and properly maintained. It will certainly be a source of revenue. In fact, it made me remember a king who built urinals around his kingdom, his son protested on why trying to make money from such a dirty place. When the money came, he took some close to his nose and asked: "Do they smell of urine?"

Nairobi is amazingly clean, especially when juxtaposed with Abuja. Without Okada plying the streets, you will not even see a single sheet of paper or pure water nylons on the ground. No wonder the city attracts foreigners. At Serena hotel, 98% of the guests are foreigners. You are therefore left to imagine how much the country makes on tourism. One Nigerian there said that what oil was to Nigeria was what tourism was to Kenya.

I had the opportunity of visiting University of Nairobi. Right inside the city, it is a reflection of the entire city: neat, organized and exuding scholarship. In my venturesome way, I interacted with some of the students and was not disappointed.

Nairobi has good hospitals, good schools and good weather. Though Nigerians seem well-to-do, but Nairobi is more of a human society than our disordered country controlled by bedlam.

Two days in Nairobi was a pleasant experience. As we touch down at Murtala Mohammed Airport, I was nostalgic about Kenya. A city where I did not witness police taking bribes openly, dry taps, power interruption. A city where right-hand driving is still in vogue. At our airport, we had to wait for some minutes for the generator to be put on, because the conveyor belt stopped when NEPA interrupted power. Regrettably, this was a reminding welcome to Nigeria, the land where,

Runalong333:


If you notice everyone from Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa knew little about you and never bothered to check any facts about you because we never cared for Kenya . It's only now that you attention seekers have gotten our attention.

An empty bucket makes the most noise... Nigeria makes a lot of noise in the continent but nothing to show for it.....
https://www.afrasiabank.com/en/about/newsroom/news/2018/afrasia-bank-africa-wealth-report-2018
FACTS ABOUT KENYA 2018

Kenya is the fifth richest country in Africa 2018 Wealth Report puts Kenya’s total wealth at Sh10.4 trillion.
Nairobi was ranked top 10 wealthiest African cities with a total wealth of Sh5.4 trillion - four places behind the richest city, Johannesburg, with a Sh27.6 trillion fortune. Expensive cities The key drivers in Nairobi included financial services, real estate, and construction, retail, tourism, and telecoms sector. Nairobi was also among the top 10 expensive cities with a square metre of prime property going for Sh190,000. The dollar millionaires in Kenya rose by four per cent from 9,400 in 2016 to 9,600 in 2017, with their biggest spendings being on dining, travel, shopping and recreation. The Kenyan wealth has grown by 73 per cent in the last 10 years, and two per cent for the past one year. It is expected to grow by 50 to 80 per cent rates in the next 10 years. The key drivers of wealth growth included low-income tax and company tax rates as well as a free and independent media. About Sh14 trillion of African dollar millionaires’ wealth is tied up with wealth managers and private banks, according to the report. Kenya also maintained its tag as Africa’s second-largest luxury market after South Africa - generating Sh50 billion that covered 17 major markets in the continent. South Africa topped the luxury market, generating a Sh220 billion revenue. “We estimate that the African luxury sector generated approximately Sh600 billion in revenue in 2017. This includes luxury cars, luxury clothing and accessories, luxury watches, private jets, yachts, and luxury hotels and lodges,” said the report sponsored by Mauritius-based AfrAsia Bank. Kenya was also tipped as “a most promising” emerging African markets for private banking in the future. The report notes that total individual wealth held in the continent is expected to hit Sh310 trillion by 2027.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001295995/kenya-ranks-among-top-africa-s-richest

Jonraid:
And yet a Nigerian started this thread? Back in 2007.A Nigerian posted about Nairobi in Nairaland. Who cared much about the other?

From 2007 discussing about Kenya? Thanks to all Nigerians who made positive comments about Nairobi in this thread!

https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east

A Nigerian , a bitter one at that. Nigerians don't hold back in criticising ourselves or our country, you should be aware by now. If you check well , the reaction this thread got was of shock and disgust. If it were South Africa, it would have been like two pages filled with personal insults ,because we wouldnt have much to talk about . But Kenya? No my guy. I agree you have a lot of positives and a much more laid back country, but you are not where you think you are

Here is their possibly incoming VP Obi telling them as it is.

At Nairobi, I saw what was beyond my imagination. Let me go straight to the verdict: Nairobi is far better than any Nigerian city you can possibly think of, including Abuja. Once at the Airport, you are bound to admire the order pervading the entire place. Though not as busy as Muritala Muhammed International Airport, it is better organized. In fact, some people told me, unverified, that the airport was built at the cost of Twenty-Five Million Naira (equivalent); while our own was at the cost of over Two Hundred Million Naira. But the two are big as to relatively cost the same.

Runalong333:


A Nigerian , a bitter one at that. Nigerians don't hold back in criticising ourselves or our country, you should be aware by now. If you check well , the reaction this thread got was of shock and disgust. If it were South Africa, it would have been like two pages filled with personal insults ,because we wouldnt have much to talk about . But Kenya? No my guy. I agree you have a lot of positives and a much more laid back country, but you are not where you think you are

Are you Nigerians where you think you are?

Kenyanstar:

An empty bucket makes the most noise... Nigeria makes a lot of noise in the continent but nothing to show for it.....
https://www.afrasiabank.com/en/about/newsroom/news/2018/afrasia-bank-africa-wealth-report-2018
FACTS ABOUT KENYA 2018

Kenya is the fifth richest country in Africa 2018 Wealth Report puts Kenya’s total wealth at Sh10.4 trillion.
Nairobi was ranked top 10 wealthiest African cities with a total wealth of Sh5.4 trillion - four places behind the richest city, Johannesburg, with a Sh27.6 trillion fortune. Expensive cities The key drivers in Nairobi included financial services, real estate, and construction, retail, tourism, and telecoms sector. Nairobi was also among the top 10 expensive cities with a square metre of prime property going for Sh190,000. The dollar millionaires in Kenya rose by four per cent from 9,400 in 2016 to 9,600 in 2017, with their biggest spendings being on dining, travel, shopping and recreation. The Kenyan wealth has grown by 73 per cent in the last 10 years, and two per cent for the past one year. It is expected to grow by 50 to 80 per cent rates in the next 10 years. The key drivers of wealth growth included low-income tax and company tax rates as well as a free and independent media. About Sh14 trillion of African dollar millionaires’ wealth is tied up with wealth managers and private banks, according to the report. Kenya also maintained its tag as Africa’s second-largest luxury market after South Africa - generating Sh50 billion that covered 17 major markets in the continent. South Africa topped the luxury market, generating a Sh220 billion revenue. “We estimate that the African luxury sector generated approximately Sh600 billion in revenue in 2017. This includes luxury cars, luxury clothing and accessories, luxury watches, private jets, yachts, and luxury hotels and lodges,” said the report sponsored by Mauritius-based AfrAsia Bank. Kenya was also tipped as “a most promising” emerging African markets for private banking in the future. The report notes that total individual wealth held in the continent is expected to hit Sh310 trillion by 2027.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001295995/kenya-ranks-among-top-africa-s-richest

Guy , not many people care nor know about Kenya. This is the truth, I'm not saying you don't have much going for you, but when outsiders think of Africa, Ghana , Nigeria and South Africa are always the countries of discussion not Kenya . Kenya when you talk of wild animals and where British oligarchs want to stash their wealth lately then yes .

This thread was in 2007 and it clocked one of the highest traffics.Positives from Nigerians have been seen.Kenya isn't perfect but Nigeria is a disaster unexplained!

Runalong333:


A Nigerian , a bitter one at that. Nigerians don't hold back in criticising ourselves or our country, you should be aware by now. If you check well , the reaction this thread got was of shock and disgust. If it were South Africa, it would have been like two pages filled with personal insults ,because we wouldnt have much to talk about . But Kenya? No my guy. I agree you have a lot of positives and a much more laid back country, but you are not where you think you are

NairobiWalker:


Are you Nigerians where you think you are?

We know we are currently in chaos , but we are certainly not done and out . I still see Nigeria vs South Africa vs Egypt competion for the next two decades even with the current chaos in all three , moreso the two .

Why don't you go back supporting SA. This whole conversation has taken a huge turnabout! Weren't you the guy acting the South African defender?

Runalong333:


Guy , not many people care nor know about Kenya. This is the truth, I'm not saying you don't have much going for you, but when outsiders think of Africa, Ghana , Nigeria and South Africa are always the countries of discussion not Kenya . Kenya when you talk of wild animals and where British oligarchs want to stash their wealth lately then yes .

Jonraid:
This thread was in 2007 and it clocked one of the highest traffics.Positives from Nigerians have been seen.Kenya isn't perfect but Nigeria is a disaster unexplained!

Yes , because there is no winner . That is why a nigerian vs South Africa, or vs Morocco or Algeria even Botswana wouldn't go this far but look at this thread

Any empirical evidence you can quote to back this. It is easy to blurt out any nonsense but to back it up please.

Runalong333:

Guy , not many people care nor know about Kenya. This is the truth, I'm not saying you don't have much going for you, but when outsiders think of Africa, Ghana , Nigeria and South Africa are always the countries of discussion not Kenya . Kenya when you talk of wild animals and where British oligarchs want to stash their wealth lately then yes .

Kazikazi:
We discussed this issue before you joined this forum.The problem we had in Tanzania(same applies to Kenya) is bad governance. Yes we have almost everything,but alas,some bad guys let us down.
The same thing happened to Kenya and the rest of African nations. Just ask yourself why are Kenyans starving in this day n age? Or why tribal killings are still happening in Kenya? Or why is Kenya not developed like Singapore or Mauritius although you have oil,gold,soda ash,geothermal, bigger land,population,kaolin,game parks,lakes etc?
Or why are Kenyans not able to utilize their semi arid land in the north while there are big freshwater lakes in Kenya? What is so hard or difficult to pump some water from lake Victoria to those starving poor people?

In short,most African nations lacks good governance.At independence,we were richer than South Korea,Malaysia,Vietnam, Singapore etc.But now, your Kenya,Tz,Ghana,Nigeria, and the rest of Africa is way poorer than those nations.

99% of what you just wrote are just examples of the ignorant narratives we've been talking about

When did you see Kenyan starving?old stories'. Tribalism only comes up during the electioneering season, u'll never hear anything about negative tribalism any other time,& that affects majority of growing "real democratic" countries, TZ is not a democratic country.

TZ just like Nigeria is a worse off story even by African standards

In spite of being the biggest country in EA in terms of population, natural resources/ land mass, TZ is the most underdeveloped country in the region...all bcz of unempowered citizens and the culture of laziness....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.nation.co.ke/blogs/Lessons-from-politics-of-capitalism-Kenya/1949942-4246454-8eefyuz/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwjjipOz0efeAhVP1hoKHQTKDmAQFjAHegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2YHHhExRklqpNjbBI4TNWx

Jonraid:
Why don't you go back supporting SA. This whole conversation has taken a huge turnabout!

I never stopped supporting South Africa, but had to attend to your nonsense about Nigeria as well. You failed to adress my posts about you and black south Africans anyways , all I heard is the worship of few white lords that your kibera behinds can't even come close to mimicking .

We humbled you when this conversation was more mature back then.Go back to page one,it seems you are still a toddler as far as this thread is concerned.You guys have nothing to stand upon!

Runalong333:


Yes , because there is no winner . That is why a nigerian vs South Africa, or vs Morocco or Algeria even Botswana wouldn't go this far but look at this thread

Runalong333:


Guy , not many people care nor know about Kenya. This is the truth, I'm not saying you don't have much going for you, but when outsiders think of Africa, Ghana , Nigeria and South Africa are always the countries of discussion not Kenya . Kenya when you talk of wild animals and where British oligarchs want to stash their wealth lately then yes .

Then why are you still on this thread if Kenya doesnt matter... Go to the Joke section, thats where Nigeria belongs.

You failed to understand our posts because you cannot decipher the simplest of explanations.You are so ignorant and immature!

Runalong333:


I never stopped supporting South Africa, but had to attend to your nonsense about Nigeria as well. You failed to adress my posts about you and black south Africans anyways , all I heard is the worship of few white lords that your kibera behinds can't even come close to mimicking .

rvp2018:
Any empirical evidence you can quote to back this. It is easy to blurt out any nonsense but to back it up please.

I like it when you ask for links and all but when asked for the same you dance around like drunk red Indian . You know the truth .