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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:46am On Nov 22, 2018
Jonraid:
You failed to understand our posts because you cannot decipher the simplest of explanations.You are so ignorant and immature!

You failed to explain your flawed generalisations whem asked to and got beaten at your own game . Scammers and liars trying to act posh and knowledgeable at the expense of other Africans.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:48am On Nov 22, 2018
It's funny how you support SA and at the same time you demean Nigeria that South Africans are their masters.You are a rare breed indeed!
Runalong333:


I never stopped supporting South Africa, but had to attend to your nonsense about Nigeria as well. You failed to adress my posts about you and black south Africans anyways , all I heard is the worship of few white lords that your kibera behinds can't even come close to mimicking grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 22, 2018
Kenyanstar:

Then why are you still on this thread if Kenya doesnt matter... Go to the Joke section, thats where Nigeria belongs. grin grin grin grin grin

You failed to understand me , Kenya is now known because of this thread , before we knew nothing about you nor did we care. Through this forum we know you better than before, it's not a bad thread at all.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:51am On Nov 22, 2018
The status quo remains,you are ignorant and immature! Only a beaten fool can think that we are British columnists attacking Nigeria!
Runalong333:


You failed to explain your flawed generalisations whem asked to and got beaten at your own game . Scammers and liars trying to act posh and knowledgeable at the expense of other Africans.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:54am On Nov 22, 2018
Jonraid:
It's funny how you support SA and at the same time you demean Nigeria that South Africans are their masters.You are a rare breed indeed!

My guy what are you smoking ?. Where did I demean Nigeria?. I wouldn't be degenerating South Africa which is my second home just to please your kibera nyash if that's what you are hoping for grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:56am On Nov 22, 2018
Jonraid:
The status quo remains,you are ignorant and immature! Only a beaten fool can think that we are British columnists attacking Nigeria!

Hahahahaha beaten by whom ? Kenya ?. You have beautiful country , I'm not jealous to admit that but you are not where you think you are , take a chill pill and work harder to improve .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:59am On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
You're jumping all over - quoting data from different sources and methodologies. I gave you 2018 latest revenue data from the dominant players...MTN Nigeria and Kenya's Safaricom. Kenya telcom sector as of now is Safaricom 65% - and rest 35% (Airtel, Safaricom, Equitel & Jamii(internet only) & other small players). Safcom first half of 2018 boast of 1.2B dollars...MTN Nigeria (who have 40% or around telcom market) got 1.6B dollars.




rvp2018:
When did you defeat kenya? You've shown to be at best twice kenya when you've got 4 times the population & twice the land size. Your GDP is officially 4 times Kenya (a fat lie). Again when it come to comparing agricultural production - I want to see you level kenya but at least being 4 times as better.

Let recap - your telcom sector with 140-160M users can only at best generator 8.5B dollars! Ours with at best 45M subscribers generate about 4B dollars. We did the same for banking...our total banking asset is 40B dollars compared to yours about 90B. You get the drift!

When you look at South Africa level - which is where you should be comparing yourself if indeed your GDP was that big - you are faar behind.



I am just bursting your lies. grin

Where did you get $4b dollars from in 2016 and 2017 Kenya's telecom revenue? Lying machine. grin

Kenya's telecom industry total revenue in 2016 and 2017 were $1.8b and $2.1b dollars according to these reliable sources. grin

This is where you will see Safaricom revenue for 2016 and the percentage of their market share in Kenya. (See snapshot 1). grin

https://www.africantelecomsnews.com/resources/AfricaOpp_Kenya.html


Your Business Daily reported Safaricom's revenue in 2017 and how Airtel Kenya lost money. (See snapshot 2)

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Heavy-debt-load-leaves-Airtel-in-Sh8-billion-loss/539546-4077608-view-asAMP-3uehq2/index.html



Airtel CEO, Prasanta Das Sarma publicly announced the revenue of Bharti Airtel in all East African countries in Intercontinental hotel Nairobi Kenya and the east African newspaper covered the event. It was not a secret. That was were we know Airtel Kenya's revenue for 2016 & 2017. grin


https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Bharti-Airtel-posts-mixed-results-for-East-Africa/2560-4719508-view-asAMP-bwbww8/index.html


Be deceiving yourself. grin

We have seen that 2016 and 2017 Nigeria's telecom industry revenue were 5 - 6 times of Kenya's telecom industry revenue for 2016 and 2017. EOD. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:59am On Nov 22, 2018
Runalong333:


You failed to understand me , Kenya is now known because of this thread , before we knew nothing about you nor did we care. Through this forum we know you better than before, it's not a bad thread at all.
Talk on your uneducated behalf... The author of this thread is a Nigerian, the most comments come from Nigerians and the page has existed this long due to its objectivity. You are 2 days old on the thread and you are the loudest empty bucket with nothing tangible to add. grin grin grin grin What a sleaze ball.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:59am On Nov 22, 2018
Trying sitting on two horses might as well mean demeaning Nigeria.I know you won't get it! You are new here.We have debunked what you guys think you really are.And it's that you are far,very very far from being the Giants of Africa!
Runalong333:


Hahahahaha beaten by whom ? Kenya ?. You have beautiful country , I'm not jealous to admit that but you are not where you think you are , take a chill pill and work harder to improve .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:04am On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
It appears South Africa has not changed you one bit. You remain uncivilized primitive Nigerian hurling expletives like a toddler when not engaging in ad hominem. Kenya has NO Asian(Indian or Chinese) or White domination problem. It simply doesn't exists. We don't have Royal Dutch & other white foreign OIL companies running our economy like Nigeria. We have so many problems if you weren't that ignorant - you'd not ran out of them.

You're right though in one thing - we are a progressive nation - and admire the Western/Asian world for what they've done. So we are guilty as judged because honestly there is nothing to be proud of in Sub Sahara Africa. We won't of course bleach our skins like Nigeria do to appear light skin....we will deal with issues that bedevils us.

We also admire what South Africa has done in Infrastructure (roads, rails, power), health care and name it - and are working hard to reach their current level in 2030 - and we are doing a pretty excellent job.

For example 15yrs ago - only 12-15% of kenya had electricity - we have moved that to 75% - and we are hoping to achieve universal electricity coverage by 2020 -2022 (latest). To be absolutely clearly we are talking 24 hrs of electricity.

We also have like 15% of our people with health care cover...and we want to move that to universal health coverage in 2022. We are aggressively rolling out universal healthcare....and that is how to be positively aggressive!

We also have a fledgling welfare system that ensure everyone old (over 65yrs), disabled or orphans get some money every month - just like those facing famine & disaster do.

In the last 5 yrs we are building more roads than we ever built since independence. We are investing in Railways & Ports.

There is a lot to learn from top South Africa universities - and but fact is their primary & secondary education - is not something we are keen to copy. Those are just facts.


There is no white and Indian domination in Kenya, I apologise for that . There is just a lot of control of its economy by the two groups, no wonder we see none of them in slums but black kenyans are the kings and queens of slum dwellings .

You don't admire the West , you hate your under achieving black Kenyan behinds too much , hence the statement you made of wishing to be white .

Most of the things you mentioned you want to achieve as the black Kenyan intellects you claim to be , are not new in Africa grin. I thought you would be breaking barriers not following footsteps of the likes of the ANC illiterates of South Africa and Nigerian government grin.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:05am On Nov 22, 2018
darfay:



Kenyans are scam.

Kazikazi is the scourge of Kenyans. I think it's time we left them to you

Cc forgiveness,bantundra,slaveryisgood


This Kenyan peeps here are professional liars. Believe them at your own peril. grin


Chai! See as dem take colomi another man city join Nairobi. Bhuhahahaha! grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:08am On Nov 22, 2018
Kenyanstar:

Talk on your uneducated behalf... The author of this thread is a Nigerian, the most comments come from Nigerians and the page has existed this long due to its objectivity. You are 2 days old on the thread and you are the loudest empty bucket with nothing tangible to add. grin grin grin grin What a sleaze ball.

Don't be pained by my visit here, I just had to call you out on your delusions like most Nigerians, Tanzanians and South Africans have done. If It were with a better country, you would have received insults and the thread would die just after two or three pages, the longetivity speaks volumes grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12am On Nov 22, 2018
Jonraid:
Trying sitting on two horses might as well mean demeaning Nigeria.I know you won't get it! You are new here.We have debunked what you guys think you really are.And it's that you are far,very very far from being the Giants of Africa!

You are trying too hard buddy cheesy. I live in both countries and know them better than you do , I don't depend on British propaganda for news like you idiots clearly do. My knowledge is based on not just living among the people but seeing what changes are being made or have bern made. So kiss my nyash if you think having a clue about what I'm talking about is deamining who I am . Silly idiot

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:12am On Nov 22, 2018
Nowenuse:


rvp20182 just has to commit suicide today.

After all the lies he has been spreading about Kenya's telcom sector being as much as that of Nigeria.

Kenyans are just so desperate to discredit anything about Nigeria that doesn't sit well with their twisted minds. Shameless souls.

Kikuyu1 who cheered rvp20182 should see this for himself.


Believe them at your own peril.


The total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya in 2016 & 2017 are $1.8b and $2.1b dollars respectively.

Nigeria's telecom industry revenue is 6 - 7 times than that of Kenya in 2016 and 2017. Gbam! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 11:12am On Nov 22, 2018
Runalong333:


There is no white and Indian domination in Kenya, I apologise for that . There is just a lot of control of its economy by the two groups, no wonder we see none of them in slums but black kenyans are the kings and queens of slum dwellings .

You don't admire the West , you hate your under achieving black Kenyan behinds too much , hence the statement you made of wishing to be white .

Most of the things you mentioned you want to achieve as the black Kenyan intellects you claim to be , are not new in Africa grin. I thought you would be breaking barriers not following footsteps of the likes of the ANC illiterates of South Africa and Nigerian government grin.
Princedapace:


The OP is so naive.. He just sat down and agreed that Nigerians are the smartest becus of yahoo yahoo boys.. Hahahahahahahahaha

No wonder our politicians use us play football..

My brother, help me tell him that Nigeria is suffering today due to high number of people with low IQ and EQ

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:12am On Nov 22, 2018
Typical boneheaded Nigerian,

If our telcom sector is safaricom. Then you're right. Those are annual safaricom revenues. 2017 they made 2.1B (Safaricom 2017 full year results) - the whole sector in 2017 made 3.4B dollars (see our Economic Survey 2018).

Now in 2018 - already safaricom has released their half year results - total revenues are around 1.2B dollars - meaning by end of year they should be well on way to 2.5B dollars.

Safaricom has 65% market - the rest of players include Airtel, Telkom, Equitel/Finserve, Jamii Telcoms.

Therefore to repeat for 10 times...this year expect our telcom revenues to rise from 3.4B to 4B dollars.

Nigeria should end the year with 8-8.5B dollars.

forgiveness:

I am just bursting your lies. grin

Where did you get $4b dollars from in 2016 and 2017 Kenya's telecom revenue? Lying machine. grin

Kenya's telecom industry total revenue in 2016 and 2017 were $1.8b and $2.1b dollars according to these reliable sources. grin

This is where you will see Safaricom revenue for 2016 and the percentage of their market share in Kenya. (See snapshot 1). grin

https://www.africantelecomsnews.com/resources/AfricaOpp_Kenya.html


Your Business Daily reported Safaricom's revenue in 2017 and how Airtel Kenya lost money. (See snapshot 2)

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Heavy-debt-load-leaves-Airtel-in-Sh8-billion-loss/539546-4077608-view-asAMP-3uehq2/index.html



Airtel CEO, Prasanta Das Sarma publicly announced the revenue of Bharti Airtel in all East African countries in Intercontinental hotel Nairobi Kenya and the east African newspaper covered the event. It was not a secret. That was were we know Airtel Kenya's revenue for 2016 & 2017. grin


https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Bharti-Airtel-posts-mixed-results-for-East-Africa/2560-4719508-view-asAMP-bwbww8/index.html


Be deceiving yourself. grin

We have seen that 2016 and 2017 Nigeria's telecom industry revenue were 5 - 6 times of Kenya's telecom industry revenue for 2016 and 2017. EOD. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 22, 2018
Kenyanstar:


Hahahaha thought you guys didn't want to entertain the IQ debate grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 11:16am On Nov 22, 2018
NAIROBI, Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:18am On Nov 22, 2018
Runalong333:


We know we are currently in chaos , but we are certainly not done and out . I still see Nigeria vs South Africa vs Egypt competion for the next two decades even with the current chaos in all three , moreso the two .

Based on comments on this thread by Nigerians, you're the giant of Africa who delivered SA from apartheid, own Kenya's banking, ICT and real estate industry, control every industry in West Africa and the savior of Africa. I hope you see through your hypocrisy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:20am On Nov 22, 2018
Kazikazi stop telling lies ones and for all where did you see Kenyans starving drought are common in Kenya because Kenya is 89% arid and the government does give relief food to such people like the turkanas you like posting alot in terms of minerals you guys outdo Kenya by far do you want to compare Kenya deposits of gold that cannot even build a road with yours that are in abundance and you are still poor you want to compare sodash and diamonds how much does sodash earn in the international market compared to your gemstones and diamonds what about your tourist potentials your huge landmass you double kenya in landmass you have a more arableland than kenya but you still suffer food shortages and kenya suffers from tribal conflicts every now and then but tanzania prides itself as the most peaceful country and stable country in east africa and you are least corrupt as you always say so you have no excuse for not being developed like S.A but kenya with its problems kibera droughts corruption tribal conflicts still beats you we have a high hdi compared to you and nigeria and your gdp is equal to that of nairobi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:21am On Nov 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Based on comments on this thread by Nigerians, you're the giant of Africa who delivered SA from apartheid, own Kenya's banking, ICT and real estate industry, control every industry in West Africa and the savior of Africa. I hope you see through your hypocrisy
You have never heard me claiming these, so speak to the people who have done so not me.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:21am On Nov 22, 2018
Runalong333:


There is no white and Indian domination in Kenya, I apologise for that . There is just a lot of control of its economy by the two groups, no wonder we see none of them in slums but black kenyans are the kings and queens of slum dwellings .

You don't admire the West , you hate your under achieving black Kenyan behinds too much , hence the statement you made of wishing to be white .

Most of the things you mentioned you want to achieve as the black Kenyan intellects you claim to be , are not new in Africa grin. I thought you would be breaking barriers not following footsteps of the likes of the ANC illiterates of South Africa and Nigerian government grin.

If the word hypocrisy had a face, the face would be you.

Who lives in those Ibadan and Kano slums? Who lives in Makoko? White people? Indians? Yet it's Kenya's slums that you're worried of for harboring only black people.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:23am On Nov 22, 2018
Kur17:
NAIROBI, Kenya
look at the way Nairobi shines

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:28am On Nov 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


If the word hypocrisy had a face, the face would be you.

Who lives in those Ibadan and Kano slums? Who lives in Makoko? White people? Indians? Yet it's Kenya's slums that you're worried of for harboring only black people.

Nigeria doesn't have a white population like you do, so don't expect to find them in slums grin . So when I see white people in slums in America, UK and South Africa, I ask myself can that ever happen in Kenya? grin. All I see in Kenya with white people is privilledge, and all I see with the indigenes is poverty and starvation.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 11:38am On Nov 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


If the word hypocrisy had a face, the face would be you.

Who lives in those Ibadan and Kano slums? Who lives in Makoko? White people? Indians? Yet it's Kenya's slums that you're worried of for harboring only black people.

Lower income estates equvnt of Umoja, Donholm Komarock etc in Nigeria are all slums just like kibera...

. ...but to them Kano, makoko etc are not slums

"Ibadan"

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:11pm On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Typical boneheaded Nigerian,

If our telcom sector is safaricom. Then you're right. Those are annual safaricom revenues. 2017 they made 2.1B (Safaricom 2017 full year results) - the whole sector in 2017 made 3.4B dollars (see our Economic Survey 2018).

Now in 2018 - already safaricom has released their half year results - total revenues are around 1.2B dollars - meaning by end of year they should be well on way to 2.5B dollars.

Safaricom has 65% market - the rest of players include Airtel, Telkom, Equitel/Finserve, Jamii Telcoms.

Therefore to repeat for 10 times...this year expect our telcom revenues to rise from 3.4B to 4B dollars.

Nigeria should end the year with 8-8.5B dollars.



Safaricom revenue in 2017 was Sh212.9b which is just $2b(see snapshot 1) and it accounted for 71% of the total revenue (See snapshot 2) generated from telecom industry in Kenya. It is not up to $2.1 neither was it 65% in 2017. grin Lying machine.

Airtel Kenya revenue in 2016 was $167.59m dollars and it accounted for 16% of total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya. Lying machine. grin (See Snapshot 3)

Meaning, Safaricom and Airtel Kenya dominated the market with 87% shares. That amounted to $2.1b or $2.2b dollars. grin

What did the remaining 13% generate? 1.4b dollars? shocked shocked shocked grin

Telkom is the third largest telecom service in Kenya and they have 12% of the whole telecom market shares in Kenya. It's revenue in 2017 was not even up to Airtel Kenya. How can the remaining 1% generate 1.1b dollars? Bhuhahahaha! You are clowning around. grin


Kenya didn't make up to $2.4b dollars in 2017. Stop lying here.

Kenya revenue was $1.8b dollars in 2016. grin

Kenya never made $3b dollars revenue from telecom industry since inception. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:17pm On Nov 22, 2018
Nowenuse:


rvp20182 just has to commit suicide today.

After all the lies he has been spreading about Kenya's telcom sector being as much as that of Nigeria.

Kenyans are just so desperate to discredit anything about Nigeria that doesn't sit well with their twisted minds. Shameless souls.

Kikuyu1 who cheered rvp20182 should see this for himself.


More than shameless. rvp2018 is a pathetic liar. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:21pm On Nov 22, 2018
Jonraid:
Trying sitting on two horses might as well mean demeaning Nigeria.I know you won't get it! You are new here.We have debunked what you guys think you really are.And it's that you are far,very very far from being the Giants of Africa!
WTF is wrong with you stupid Kenyans, y can't you just accept defeat for God sake, we have proven to you that we are at least 5times better than you in all sectors, forgiveness has just provided links and evidences to back his claims about we generating more profits than you stupid slummy country for at least 6 times.
WE ARE AT LEAST 6 TIMES BETTER THAN YOU IN agriculture,SERVICE SECTORS, ECONOMY, INDUSTRIES, sports, entertainment,Road Infrastructure, we have shown links and evidences over and over again.
how Dfck do you want us to convince you guys that we ain't your mates in many things?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:22pm On Nov 22, 2018
NigeriaIsDoomed:
TayserMahiri no run away come answer question grin
gallivant come help ur mumu bushman like you wey don high grin

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Nairaland Kibera president, TayserMahiri don high abeg make him people come carry am grin grin

You big nosed Jukunus
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:23pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:

WTF is wrong with you stupid Kenyans, y can't you just accept defeat for God sake, we have proven to you that we are at least 5times better than you in all sectors, forgiveness has just provided links and evidences to back his claims about we generating more profits than you stupid slummy country for at least 6 times.
WE ARE AT LEAST 6 TIMES BETTER THAN YOU IN agriculture,SERVICE SECTORS, ECONOMY, INDUSTRIES, sports, entertainment,Road Infrastructure, we have shown links and evidences over and over again.
how Dfck do you want us to convince you guys that we ain't your mates in many things?

You dey mind those shambles lying Kenyans here. grin

I will keep disgracing them here in regards to GDP for now. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 12:29pm On Nov 22, 2018
Kenyans and their only hope,built by their Indian masters,what a shame for this country
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:31pm On Nov 22, 2018
Nowenuse:


Most ethnic groups in my state and my region are culturally and linguistically related and we have common origins.
Our clans weren't united by the British like the way the Yoruba and Igbo subgroups were united, just for the sake of political and administrative convenience.

That doesn't mean that we do not know our origins and cultural affinities.


Are the numerous languages in plateau state mutually intelligible even if only marginally?

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