forgiveness:



Believe them at your own peril.


The total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya in 2016 & 2017 are $1.8b and $2.1b dollars respectively.

Nigeria's telecom industry revenue is 6 - 7 times than that of Kenya in 2016 and 2017. Gbam!

its damn insane to even compare both countries, who does that for God sake, logically,Nigeria have much more people, as a result of higher population and higher purchasing power ,it a simple knowledge that Nigeria would generates more incomes than Kenya in areas of telecommunications.

If I post Nairobi slum pictures littered all over Nairobi,some of my Nigerians would even rate borno state higher than Nairobi because borno is clean.

Kenyans please beg your government to develop other places in NairobiNairobi apart from the cbd

You're a desperate idiot 2.08 is equal to 2.1B. Learn to BLOODY ROUND OFF. 39.99B is 40B. This is essentially what is wrong with Nigeria as a country. You guys cannot be saved. Just like Tanzania cannot...youre mixing years, revenue $ profit.

Even if we did this 10 times - and we probably have - you still won't get it.

You telcom revenues are going to be like 8.5b (round off) -against kenya's 4B - those are hard stubborn facts.

All you need is to add MTN (40%),Airtel(25%) & GlobalCom(30%) - revenue and you can tell us their 2017 and 2018 (expected) figures.

forgiveness:



Safaricom revenue in 2017 was Sh212.9b which is just $2b(see snapshot 1) and it accounted for 71% of the total revenue (See snapshot 2) generated from telecom industry in Kenya. It is not up to $2.1 neither was it 65% in 2017. Lying machine.

Airtel Kenya revenue in 2016 was $167.59m dollars and it accounted for 16% of total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya. Lying machine. (See Snapshot 3)

Meaning, Safaricom and Airtel Kenya dominated the market with 87% shares. That amounted to $2.1b or $2.2b dollars.

What did the remaining 13% generate? 1.4b dollars?

Telkom is the third largest telecom service in Kenya and they have 12% of the whole telecom market shares in Kenya. It's revenue in 2017 was not even up to Airtel Kenya. How can the remaining 1% generate 1.1b dollars? Bhuhahahaha! You are clowning around.


Kenya didn't make up to $2.4b dollars in 2017. Stop lying here.

Kenya revenue was $1.8b dollars in 2016.

Kenya never made $3b dollars revenue from telecom industry since inception.

rvp2018:
When did you defeat kenya? You've shown to be at best twice kenya when you've got 4 times the population & twice the land size. Your GDP is officially 4 times Kenya (a fat lie). Again when it come to comparing agricultural production - I want to see you level kenya but at least being 4 times as better.

Let recap - your telcom sector with 140-160M users can only at best generator 8.5B dollars! Ours with at best 45M subscribers generate about 4B dollars. We did the same for banking...our total banking asset is 40B dollars compared to yours about 90B. You get the drift!

When you look at South Africa level - which is where you should be comparing yourself if indeed your GDP was that big - you are faar behind.

Your old banking industry with stable democracy since independence have been overtaken by the young Nigeria banking industry.

You are right, Kenya's total banking assets was $40b dollars in 2017 but you are wrong about Nigeria's total banking asset. It was not $90b dollars. It was $101b dollars.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/nairametrics.com/kenyan-banks-versus-nigerian-banks-see-who-wins-this/amp/

samsobo24:
If I post Nairobi slum pictures littered all over Nairobi,some of my Nigerians would even rate borno state higher than Nairobi because borno is clean.

Kenyans please beg your government to develop other places in NairobiNairobi apart from the cbd

No difference with your average estates...
Can you post the middle and high end, mostly the middle income residential area cz I know you don't have...

Kur17:


Lower income estates equvnt of Umoja, Donholm Komarock etc in Nigeria are all slums just like kibera...

. ...but to them Kano, makoko etc are not slums

"Ibadan"

what do you think when those houses are renovated, that is, their roofs got changed to new modern roofing systems and the houses gt painted? would u still call them slums?

Not necessarily. South Africa has around 55-60M people and generate more revenues than Nigeria. It's not just about the subscribers but how much each is spending and services you're offering. That is why Kenya are doing better than Nigeria per capita wise...you 160-180m subscriber can only generate 8B worth of telcom revenues while 40M in kenya generate about half of that. It because Kenya telcoms have got mobile money but lots of service...including fibre internet to homes..while South Africa is even more advanced I suspect.

68816419:

its damn insane to even compare both countries, who does that for God sake, logically,Nigeria have much more people, as a result of higher population and higher purchasing power ,it a simple knowledge that Nigeria would generates more incomes than Kenya in areas of telecommunications.

Runalong333:


Hahahaha thought you guys didn't want to entertain the IQ debate

Thats not me debating it, its Nigerians doing the debate among themselves. They are savage on themselves thou, am laughing out of this worl reading them.

forgiveness:


You dey mind those shambles lying Kenyans here.

I will keep disgracing them here in regards to GDP for now.

I already made my researches on both countries agricultural sector , what I found was mind blowing, our agricultural sector is actually best in Africa and some of our produces are world ranked best.

When did you do this. Look like you just keep inventing facts as days go. Yesterday you were happy to just overtake kenya - but when the concept of per capita finally penetrated your thick head - you now claim to be 5 or is it 6 times - maybe make that 10 times like your GDP once claimed.

68816419:

WTF is wrong with you stupid Kenyans, y can't you just accept defeat for God sake, we have proven to you that we are at least 5times better than you in all sectors, forgiveness has just provided links and evidences to back his claims about we generating more profits than you stupid slummy country for at least 6 times.
WE ARE AT LEAST 6 TIMES BETTER THAN YOU IN agriculture,SERVICE SECTORS, ECONOMY, INDUSTRIES, sports, entertainment,Road Infrastructure, we have shown links and evidences over and over again.
how Dfck do you want us to convince you guys that we ain't your mates in many things?

You hail from the poverty capital of the world.How about that?

Here is some more British propaganda https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital-report/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mwv9KRt7k?t=5

Runalong333:


You are trying too hard buddy . I live in both countries and know them better than you do , I don't depend on British propaganda for news like you idiots clearly do. My knowledge is based on not just living among the people but seeing what changes are being made or have bern made. So kiss my nyash if you think having a clue about what I'm talking about is deamining who I am . Silly idiot

samsobo24:
If I post Nairobi slum pictures littered all over Nairobi,some of my Nigerians would even rate borno state higher than Nairobi because borno is clean.

Kenyans please beg your government to develop other places in NairobiNairobi apart from the cbd

List of slums in Nigeria
Agege.
Ajegunle.
Amukoko.
Badia.
Bariga.
Bodija.
Ijeshatedo/Itire.
Ilaje
Iwaya
Makoko
Mushin
Oke-Offa Babasale
Somolu

68816419:

what do you think when those houses are renovated, that is, their roofs got changed to new modern roofing systems and the houses gt painted? would u still call them slums?

Just like kibera they're overcrowded with no proper roads network, they also waste allot of space with their old bungalow design

the only option is to bring all of them down and start a new planned construction of modern apartments

rvp2018:
Not necessarily. South Africa has around 55-60M people and generate more revenues than Nigeria. It's not just about the subscribers but how much each is spending and services you're offering. That is why Kenya are doing better than Nigeria per capita wise...you 160-180m subscriber can only generate 8B worth of telcom revenues while 40M in kenya generate about half of that. It because Kenya telcoms have got mobile money but lots of service...including fibre internet to homes..while South Africa is even more advanced I suspect.

Man stop being stupid and accept defeat for once, as of the year 2014, we generated closed to $10 B from our telecom sector, and you generated at most $2B then , and we have more impute now than then meaning we now generate more. currently we generate at least five times of what Kenya generates in this sectors.
why would you even dare comparing your self with us when we have higher PPP ,GDP and per capital income than you?

rvp2018:
You're a desperate idiot 2.08 is equal to 2.1B. Learn to BLOODY ROUND OFF. 39.99B is 40B. This is essentially what is wrong with Nigeria as a country. You guys cannot be saved. Just like Tanzania cannot...youre mixing years, revenue $ profit.

Even if we did this 10 times - and we probably have - you still won't get it.

You telcom revenues are going to be like 8.5b (round off) -against kenya's 4B - those are hard stubborn facts.

All you need is to add MTN (40%),Airtel(25%) & GlobalCom(30%) - revenue and you can tell us their 2017 and 2018 (expected) figures.

Why don't you steal $20m to round it up to $21b dollars, huh?

Airtel Kenya revenue was just $167.59m dollars in 2017 and that was 16% of telecom market share in Kenya. (see snapshot 1)

The remaining paled in comparison with Airtel Kenya and Safaricom. They never made more than to $100m. (See snapshot 2) You can see the disparity in snapshot two.


Where did you make $4b dollars in 2017? Bhuhahahaha?

MTN Nigeria market share is just 36%. Lying machine.

(See snapshot 3)

Kur17:


Just like kibera they're overcrowded with no proper roads network, they also waste allot of space with their old bungalow design

the only option is to bring all of them down and start a new planned construction of modern apartments

man this place u tagged slums actually have better roads,planning and development than many of your cities.
but Kibera and other slums kenya are pure slums with zinc buildings.

If in 2017,the telecom and media industry in Nigeria generated a combined revenue of 7.3 B USD. How is this five times our revenue in the telecom sector?

https://itpulse.com.ng/2018/07/12/nigerian-telecom-and-media-industry-generated-of-7-3bn-revenue-in-one-year/

68816419:

Man stop being stupid and accept defeat for once, as of the year 2014, we generated closed to $10 B from our telecom sector, and you generated at most $2B then , and we have more impute now than then meaning we now generate more. currently we generate at least five times of what Kenya generates in this sectors.
why would you even dare comparing your self with us when we have higher PPP ,GDP and per capital income than you?

Kenyanstar:


List of slums in Nigeria
Agege.
Ajegunle.
Amukoko.
Badia.
Bariga.
Bodija.
Ijeshatedo/Itire.
Ilaje
Iwaya
Makoko
Mushin
Oke-Offa Babasale
Somolu

hahaha desperado slums dwellers kenyans, nigga, the only slum in that list of yours is makoko and even with that, 50% of the slum is being demolished. and very soon u won't see it no more.
I challenge you to provide pics showing the slums area of these places .

Runalong333:


You failed to understand me , Kenya is now known because of this thread , before we knew nothing about you nor did we care. Through this forum we know you better than before, it's not a bad thread at all.

You need to get off whatever you're smoking.

68816419:


hahaha desperado slums dwellers kenyans, nigga, the only slum in that list of yours is makoko and even with that, 50% of the slum is being demolished. and very soon u won't see it no more.
I challenge you to provide pics showing the slums area of these places .

90% of Nigerian cities are basically slums. I wonder what you guys are always arguing over

Kur17:


Lower income estates equvnt of Umoja, Donholm Komarock etc in Nigeria are all slums just like kibera...

. ...but to them Kano, makoko etc are not slums

"Ibadan"

When you read what they classify as a slum in other countries, you might think they're from Switzerland. Imagine some idiot was arguing here that Buruburu is a slum - and he claims to live in Kenya

68816419:

man this place u tagged slums actually have better roads,planning and development than many of your cities.
but Kibera and other slums kenya are pure slums with zinc buildings.

My Google maps can't lie to me...

I've tried to see where an average person lives I can't see any, only rich or slums

Runalong333:


Nigeria doesn't have a white population like you do, so don't expect to find them in slums . So when I see white people in slums in America, UK and South Africa, I ask myself can that ever happen in Kenya? . All I see in Kenya with white people is privilledge, and all I see with the indigenes is poverty and starvation.

You must be sick. What is the population of white people in Kenya now that you know so much about Kenya?

NairobiWalker:


When you read what they classify as a slum in other countries, you might think they're from Switzerland. Imagine some idiot was arguing here that Buruburu is a slum - and he claims to live in Kenya

Is like you resides at Buruburu?

Runalong333:


Not to jump in to arguments that don't concern me but , is South Africa not more highly ranked than Kenya in almost all literacy rankings ?. The other poster posted about UNESCO, so I'm not understanding .

I also saw a post by Rvp2018 stating that black South Africans only got formal education in the 90s and 2000s, and i beg to differ. When i arrived in south Africa there were a lot of educated people, remember they had black colleges and universities as well. And some did attend the white dominated ones.

University of Bophuthatswana
University of Vista
University of Venda
Medical university of South Africa
University of Transkei
University of Fort Hare

These are the ones I read about and some training colleges for teachers , nurses and other related professions .
I think some of the names have been changed though with all the mergers that have taken place , lionesssza6 can do an update .

How do you think they were able to have law firms, doctors , accountants and independent consultants, if there had no formal education? . Or are you saying these universities and colleges were ghost houses , again I'm not understanding ?.

What was the percentage of both literate and educated Kenyans at independence ?. In Naija we had only one university with about two thousand graduates .

Another curious matter , how many white people did you have to chase out in Kenya?. What weapons did you use and who made them ? . Did the British have nuclear weapons in Kenya or were they only fighting with normal weaponry ?. How many settlers did Kenyetta give land to ? Was it paid for? And did he give them this land after they received their compensation like the rest ?how were the ones left behind chosen ?.

I really dont know what was our literacy rate at independence. You can check that online but obviously it was low. You know I just checked the literacy rates between us and RSA and realized SA have pulled ahead of us lately. Not really sure thats true because I had Zuma in my mind much of the time. Honestly, I used to find South African blacks quite illiterate, much in the same way most of us find black Americans illiterate. I was actually surprised by the likes of Lioness and another dude called Jayceon when I landed in NL. They were and are quite smart than most Nigerians. I have to say I concede on this one. They now seem to have a slightly higher literacy rate than Kenya. Though they are the exception. Not many countries are more literate than Kenya, including Nigeria and Tanzania. Im even doubting this stat given a recent (2018) WB report which placed Kenya only behind Seychelles and Mauritius, largely because of our free, universal primary and secondary education, which tells you how well we get it on education.

There are even SA news articles preaching how SA should emulate Kenya's education system because we have an obviously superior basic literacy system. The thing to note however, and this not an excuse, is that we struggle with the arid nomads in terms of educating them, which definitely pushes our literacy rates down. But not to Naija level. Nigeria is a whole different subject on its own because what they have is spectacular failure, 66 % literacy. We have a better teacher to pupil ratio than SA, and a Kenyan child is likely to get an uninterrupted 11 yrs of O level school compared to a South African child who is only likely to get 8.

Again dont confuse literacy with higher education. You can be literate and not higher educated. Even the Tanzanian idiot can be said to be literate because you can see he can gather a few points here and there and come up with some sort of theme.

Lastly, we had to chase anywhere between 60,000 to 100,000 whites. Obviously they (their govt) were superior armed but indegenous fighters also had arms gotten from Ethiopia through Haille Sellasie, who was a close friend to Jomo Kenyatta. He was actually the first head of state to visit Kenya after independence. The British used guns and bombs, dropping about 6 million of them on Mau Mau fighters using World War 2 jets. It was a scorch earth policy designed to coarse the Africans to submission in the shortest time possible. Think of it like the Russian system of warfare. Of course there were no nuclear weapons, unless you are trying to be dumb. Dont be dumb im sure the South Africans have given you better education since you left the shithole. The settlers that remained were no more than a few hundred at most. Most of the ones that remained were the ones that had grievances and anger against Britain. Most settlers did not like Britain because after all their investments here and paying tax to the Queen she still had the audacity to leave them in the cold by finally giving independence. Dont forget these were often young couples who had left Britain to build themselves from scratch in Kenya and just when they had made their lifetime investments the govt bails on them and they now have to lose everything. The vast majority vowed never to step back in Britain and went to Australia and New Zealand. A good number of Aussies and Kiwis today trace their origins to Kenya. There are actually some who did not believe independence was going to be granted until the very last day to the extent that some left their crops standing in the farms never to return. There were also about 750 Afrikaners who were the first to leave because they knew they had no one to protect them. The queen had no business with bloody Afrikaners anyway. Most of them, though obviously more worried about the farms, were more worried about the liquid cash so they were in a haste to take it out before it was frozen, wrongly believing the black govt would do that.

The ones who were left behind were not really chosen, they were just the bravest who chose to stay it out and see what happens.

Kenyanstar:

Dont bother with them . When they run out of ideas to counter an argument they degenerate into name calling and abuse. In order to make them feel good about themselves i have had to accept that i passed the pictures off as "NAIROBI PICTURES" rather than "Random pictures". Just imagine an entire 2 pages wasted on a pretty self explanatory picture.

We know them and understand their stupidity.

Runalong333:

You have never heard me claiming these, so speak to the people who have done so not me.

Your reasoning is just as stupid as you. I didn't say you claimed that, I said I can see through your hypocrisy. Meaning, you've been through this thread and read about Nigerians painting a grandiose picture of Nigeria when the reality is otherwise but you're blind to that yet you're so quick to point out how Kenyans aren't who they think they are.

NairobiWalker:


90% of Nigerian cities are basically slums. I wonder what you guys are always arguing over

if 90% of Nigerians cities are slums, then 101% of Kenyans cities are more than slums.

NairobiWalker:


When you read what they classify as a slum in other countries, you might think they're from Switzerland. Imagine some idiot was arguing here that Buruburu is a slum - and he claims to live in Kenya

Ignorance of the highest order from him, but I didn't know he claims to here...

Seems like they don't know what a slum is, I've noticed they don't have any fair decent estates

68816419:

Is like you resides at Buruburu?

I don't but if I did, I would still be better off than 99% of Nigerians.