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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:35am On Nov 22, 2018
ChrisKels:


Oh bro, sorry for the late response. Let's get a new thread for it if we can't do it here. D watsap is a no no for me bkus my watsap number is my mainline which I aint ready to give out. Thanks for ur understanding.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:38am On Nov 22, 2018
Taliban:


Can you translate sir summarize.

Statistics merged with performances.

Perfomance measured with delivery, completed pasess and interceptions, assists, over all influence on the game.

Number of matches played, awards, etc

You can't play one game and then win an award by perception, i.e. I like the way he plays.

Many years ago l use to look at players from an Afrocentric view point alone. Skills, tricks, dribbles, Wow moments, shakara, rainbow flicks, etc, etc.

But all these things amount to absolutely nothing without end product. For the average fan these are the things they look out for. I understand that fan is derived from fanatical and therefore rationality is not a priority.

Nonetheless, it can detract from effective impact.

Manchester city players are predominantly very skilful but they will NEVER slow the game down to be doing unnecessary step overs and draw backs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:42am On Nov 22, 2018
ChrisKels:


Oh bro, sorry for the late response. Let's get a new thread for it if we can't do it here. D watsap is a no no for me bkus my watsap number is my mainline which I aint ready to give out. Thanks for ur understanding.

Good we make head way then. We go create another thread for the selection process.

cc: Tbaba1234, TheSuperNerd, Joebie, Komekn and Forgiveness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:44am On Nov 22, 2018
do4luv14:


yes..., and am suspecting, that's from where you know him

Let me shock you.

I met him in Benin when piaka no deh him hand and he deh play for Bendel insurance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:51am On Nov 22, 2018
jihday:
SMH, just so you can discredit the fact that Musa isn't up to 30 and might be using real age

Why would you make that assumption

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:58am On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
that enyimba left who is also the under 23 abi 20 captain and also lobi stars left back ebube or so
shame that according to rohr once u play in the npfl u are not good enough


No shame whatsoever, they are not just good enough

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:02am On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
that enyimba left who is also the under 23 abi 20 captain and also lobi stars left back ebube or so
shame that according to rohr once u play in the npfl u are not good enough
Utin? The boy isn't up to scratch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:08am On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


Firstly, selection has to by merit and not past glories.

If a player is not performing in his club that's the end you will not make the cut. In our SE some players seem to have permanent residence status.

An example is Kayode when he was on Fire in Austria he was not given time of day.

Before Ajayi had played one game in the Championship Dominic Iorfa had played two seasons and was winning MOTM awards as a teenager for Wolves, was invited to the England first team to train. But was not invited and please forget all those stories in the press they are misrepresentation.

We now have Ebere Eze making waves once again what's happening,

Before anybody knew who Josh Maja was he was invited to train with the SE. Unjustified I still feel at the time.

The guy is now become hot property. We are wasting time and playing games. If we had a collection of Obagoal's and Yakubu's l could understand. We have an almost impotent strike force once again no urgency. It's possible we may loose him.

Ademola and Dele Alli both left League one straight too the EPL. Why, because they were the stand out consistent top class performaners in league and club.

See link below transfer rumours clubs queuing up to get him.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-tottenham-southampton-keeping-13385470

You have players who have been good quality consistent over a long period but largely ignored. Look at Samuel Adegbenro Rosenburg fc one of thier stand out players but he is not on the radar of the SE.

I am sure you can probably add to the long list, using a criteria of consistent outstanding top performances.

This situation of selective selection is causing more harm than good.

But instead we invite speculative potential yet to.be realised over proven tested ability and quality. e.g. Nwakali brothers, etc


Okay, very good.

Now, if you were to be in charge of callups, I agree you'd do things differently.

Can I see your most ideal 23-man list?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:57am On Nov 22, 2018
Odunayaw:
Utin? The boy isn't up to scratch


I would like to see more of Ebube. Hopefully Lobi make it to the group stage of the champions league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:03pm On Nov 22, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


I would like to see more of Ebube. Hopefully Lobi make it to the group stage of the champions league
I can expect CAF to draw up Lobi with a North African team in the round before the group stage

If this happens, wahala don reach be that

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:22pm On Nov 22, 2018
Odunayaw:
I can expect CAF to draw up Lobi with a North African team in the round before the group stage

If this happens, wahala don reach be that

Mehn you never tell lie. Zamalek or something like that but I pray not
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 12:27pm On Nov 22, 2018
Iheanacho has not been developing....he is not even stagnant...he is regressing...I think his name is covering him....this regressing started at the world cup...but i can assure that Rohr has not noticed it...

Iwobi is not yet mature to control a game from the midfield. smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 12:41pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
u really think osimehen would get. the nod ahead of oyekuru
I don't see that happening
If Osimhen continues scoring why not?

Rohr is trying to groom a good back-up or heir to Ighalo.Osimhen suits our system of play(4-2-3-1).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 1:09pm On Nov 22, 2018
gamaliel9:
Iheanacho has not been developing....he is not even stagnant...he is regressing...I think his name is covering him....this regressing started at the world cup...but i can assure that Rohr has not noticed it...

Iwobi is not yet mature to control a game from the midfield. smiley

This is why Ogu is important to this team. His calmness,physical presence and ability to play short passes will be needed in the course of the AFCON.

On Iheanacho, it's his free-kick ability that keeps him in this team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:20pm On Nov 22, 2018
EEGA:
This is why Ogu is important to this team. His calmness,physical presence and ability to play short passes will be needed in the course of the AFCON.

On Iheanacho, it's his free-kick ability that keeps him in this team.


Una no get any oda reason again y nacho has to be invited aside hanging on dis free kick ability dt rarely comes up to play...kini gan undecided undecided,make nacho up him game abeg...d last two matches we no c any free kick play..so if we no c any free kick play for afcon,we no go knw sabi him usefulness undecided undecided?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:44pm On Nov 22, 2018
krattoss:
Leon Balogun lashes out at black Chyna for his plans to sell bleaching cream when she arrives Lagos grin grin

But in a serious note, what do these goose take us for? undecided
For once, I love the unity Nigerians are showing to ruin this evil business. 90k ke? I know a few mad people will still buy it, but at least market don spoil. All these self esteem snatchers coming in the name of marketing. Na one black go advice her that naija na better market like that o


grin


We never get 30k minimum wage, person wan kon sell 90k cream.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 1:50pm On Nov 22, 2018
EEGA:
This is why Ogu is important to this team. His calmness,physical presence and ability to play short passes will be needed in the course of the AFCON.

On Iheanacho, it's his free-kick ability that keeps him in this team.

No trying yo cast aspersions on your opinion but in the last 6 matches, KC hasn't scored any free-kick for us. Free-kicks aren't enough to guarantee him a spot on the team. There is too much at stake for that kind of sentiment

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:56pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


Firstly, selection has to by merit and not past glories.

If a player is not performing in his club that's the end you will not make the cut. In our SE some players seem to have permanent residence status.

An example is Kayode when he was on Fire in Austria he was not given time of day.

Before Ajayi had played one game in the Championship Dominic Iorfa had played two seasons and was winning MOTM awards as a teenager for Wolves, was invited to the England first team to train. But was not invited and please forget all those stories in the press they are misrepresentation.

We now have Ebere Eze making waves once again what's happening,

Before anybody knew who Josh Maja was he was invited to train with the SE. Unjustified I still feel at the time.

The guy is now become hot property. We are wasting time and playing games. If we had a collection of Obagoal's and Yakubu's l could understand. We have an almost impotent strike force once again no urgency. It's possible we may loose him.

Ademola and Dele Alli both left League one straight too the EPL. Why, because they were the stand out consistent top class performaners in league and club.

See link below transfer rumours clubs queuing up to get him.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-tottenham-southampton-keeping-13385470

You have players who have been good quality consistent over a long period but largely ignored. Look at Samuel Adegbenro Rosenburg fc one of thier stand out players but he is not on the radar of the SE.

I am sure you can probably add to the long list, using a criteria of consistent outstanding top performances.

This situation of selective selection is causing more harm than good.

But instead we invite speculative potential yet to.be realised over proven tested ability and quality. e.g. Nwakali brothers, etc


I detest club selection policy because it also can paint a false picture. If we worked with that compass, Uzoho would not have made it to the World Cup. Ahmed Musa who was washing undies in the locker room of Leicester City U23 team would never have smelt the World Cup.

I think a selective look in which Rohr adopted is the most ideal. Scout and invite regularly players that show sign and huge potential to make it to the Super Eagles. If the NFF can support Rohr in inviting 5-7 fresh players during international breaks for Rohr to monitor and study them, with time, Rohr would have looked into a large pool of promising talents, both home and abroad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groundnutoil(m): 1:57pm On Nov 22, 2018
Odunayaw:
Utin? The boy isn't up to scratch

with all respect bro can I ask you how many of his matches u have watched to come to this conclusion
if not for anything else I stay in aba I have been to the stadium twice to seem him play he has his rough edges no doubt but boy is good am particularly happy with his crosses

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:00pm On Nov 22, 2018
gamaliel9:
Iheanacho has not been developing....he is not even stagnant...he is regressing...I think his name is covering him....this regressing started at the world cup...but i can assure that Rohr has not noticed it...

Iwobi is not yet mature to control a game from the midfield. smiley


I hope you know Nacho starts games for a team in the EPL. Hard for a coach to overlook him. It is not just name covering him.

Finally, Nacho had a good game against the South Africans. Apart from the miss, he was handy and helped the team create opportunity. Doubt we can say he is regressing. I think what really needs addressing is our pattern of play. A bit more bravery will bring the best in our forwards.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:03pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
with all respect bro can I ask you how many of his matches u have watched to come to this conclusion
if not for anything else I stay in aba I have been to the stadium twice to seem him play he has his rough edges no doubt but boy is good am particularly happy with his crosses
I have been critical of him but I think it was in the Atletico Madrid game he blew my mind (no homo) with his work rate. I think Utin has a lot to offer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:04pm On Nov 22, 2018
darkelf:


No trying yo cast aspersions on your opinion but in the last 6 matches, KC hasn't scored any free-kick for us. Free-kicks aren't enough to guarantee him a spot on the team. There is too much at stake for that kind of sentiment

I wonder how many games in the last six games Nacho started that you expect him to score free kicks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groundnutoil(m): 2:04pm On Nov 22, 2018
komekn:


I actually think it's more probable, he was invited to the SE before him. Even when he was an academy player.

Onyekuru had a very impressive CV before Everton bought him but was he given opportunity.
well he is doing quite well in gala at the moment and I think rohr would opt more for a vasetile forward than osimehen
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groundnutoil(m): 2:05pm On Nov 22, 2018
Utonwanne:



No shame whatsoever, they are not just good enough
but this guys do well in Chad and wafu competitions
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groundnutoil(m): 2:08pm On Nov 22, 2018
TheGoodJoe:

I have been critical of him but I think it was in the Atletico Madrid game he blew my mind (no homo) with his work rate. I think Utin has a lot to offer.
whenever I go to enyimba stadium to watch matches I always keep him in mind and am telling u the guy is good not all that good but very very promising just a little more exposure and he might explode well

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:11pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
with all respect bro can I ask you how many of his matches u have watched to come to this conclusion
if not for anything else I stay in aba I have been to the stadium twice to seem him play he has his rough edges no doubt but boy is good am particularly happy with his crosses
Sir, I didn't say he isn't good, God knows he is.

I have seen him in about 4 games (the latest being the CAF Confed semi), while I believe one gets a better "view" from seeing a game right in the stadium I still stand by my opinion he isn't up to SE scratch "yet"

I hope to see him in the U23 team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:30pm On Nov 22, 2018
Austrian club SC Rheindorf Altach as well as a number of clubs in Italy have joined the race to sign Super Eagles invitee Olamilekan Adeleye.

“Altach as well as a number of clubs in Austria and Italy are interested in signing Adeleye after they have closely monitored him for some time now,” a top source informed SCORENigeria



Adeleye was on the Super Eagles 23-man squad for the 2019 AFCON qualifier against South Africa as well as the friendly against Uganda.

He made the 2017 WAFU Cup Team of the Tournament when Nigeria reached the final of the sub-regional competition.

The towering central defender is a free agent following the expiration of his contract at NPFL side FC Ifeanyiubah.

He is highly rated player who besides his imposing built is also very comfortable on the ball and enjoys a superb aerial presence.

He is close to agreeing a personal endorsement deal with Nike.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:44pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
with all respect bro can I ask you how many of his matches u have watched to come to this conclusion
if not for anything else I stay in aba I have been to the stadium twice to seem him play he has his rough edges no doubt but boy is good am particularly happy with his crosses

He is not that good. At least not super eagles level yet. He might get there if he is still young.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 3:15pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
with all respect bro can I ask you how many of his matches u have watched to come to this conclusion
if not for anything else I stay in aba I have been to the stadium twice to seem him play he has his rough edges no doubt but boy is good am particularly happy with his crosses
Did you watch him against Raja Casablanca.

The best players play in the top leagues not NPFL.

We carry our(Enyimba) match fix for afternoon under hot son still Raja beat us for home under that same sun.

Do you know it took Odey a year to break into the "Zurich"(a club in the lowly rated Switz league) first team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 3:21pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
well he is doing quite well in gala at the moment and I think rohr would opt more for a vasetile forward than osimehen
Ighalo is not a young player.

He needs a young player as back-up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 3:22pm On Nov 22, 2018
groundnutoil:
but this guys do well in Chad and wafu competitions
What. of CAF competitions?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:24pm On Nov 22, 2018
EEGA:
If Osimhen continues scoring why not?

Rohr is trying to groom a good back-up or heir to Ighalo.Osimhen suits our system of play(4-2-3-1).

Players don't get groomed for national call up.

They prove thier quality by upwards progression, continous consistent top Quality performances in thier club and league . Then in comparison to other players the best is selected or a number of players selected. That's the only transparent and equitable system for player selection. There is nothing like grooming you can take a keen interest but you can not groom.

On the basis of performances players are Invited to camp they train, play games and from that the best is selected, it's a then a fair and level playing field.

In football the deciding component of your PROGRESSION is not necessarily ability but OPPORTUNITY. This is the most important thing that will decide your career OPPORTUNITY.

So when a player is given opportunity in some regards others are denied Opportunity. That denial can be calculated in the negative as intended to deny certain unfavoured players opportunity who possibly could be better or as good as but we will never know.

That's why selection must be rational transparent and based on objective measured and consistent performance over time not assumption which allows all kinds of nefarious activities to take place.

We are in a country where integrity is a very scarce commodity. For goodness sake at the highest levels of the NFF Salisu was caught RED HANDED. Taking blatant bribes. What's shocking is that it's all been swept under the carpet and the carpets been thrown in the bin and burned.

I will add as a thought, why do you think Rohr was chosen, a guy who has spent a decade coaching in Africa. He simply understands how things are done in the African context, our way. That's why it was easy to as he says "forgive" Salisu, the status quo remains.

I watched Cameroon play Brazil it was stunning this is not the same Cameroon that we played and flogged. This is the work of Seedorf.

I will add Seedorf is not hungry for $$ he is worth a lot of money. His motivation is achievement, a good name etc, he is also very Afrocentric in his views. But he will not be influenced to carry out sharp practices and will have zero tolerance for corruption. I guess that's why he is not working for us. Cameroon are reaping the benefits. They had to go low very low before climbing back up.

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