TayserMahiri:


Sounds great to have a national one. Which city is hosting it this month? What do the beautiful ladies celebrate in Ashenda? And why not men celebrating could be Ethio men dont care too much about culture? Perhaps Hati13 should chip in and say why they dont celebrate culture. I have to say the young lady in the 2nd pic piqued my interest What a natural hottie

We male celebrate too (I for example celebrate it when I was in senior high school). But I think female care about it than us. Female generally like to dress and look beautiful so during culture day it’s perfect opportunity to show their respective customs.

TayserMahiri:





Slow man. The dude might launch an albino hunt ASAP!

hell hath no fury like a Tanzan scorned....Ask the burned Kenyan Chicks

68816419:

Don't be fool of your self, Nigerians like Indians ,Chinese,Lebanese are every where around the world, they don't discriminate on a where to go in as long as they benefit from that place, you find Chinese, Indians, Lebanese in every poor part of African country, yet their countries is more advanced than these countries. what does that tells you,?
Kenyans needs to erase this notation that Nigerians goes to their country cause their country is better than Nigeria, No, you find far more Nigerians in poorer countries, countries like Niger, Togo,central Africa, Gambia...... these Nigerians goes to this countries and invest heavily in various sectors of the economy, they invest in education sectors, entertainment, trade and commerce , if Nigerians leaves Niger, chad,Togo, Benin republic, Ghana and other countries these countries would collapse.
and this is a well known fact.

Of course! Kenya is better than Nigeria in most basic aspects,just ask a Nigerian living in Kenya who is calling Kenya his second home.This is a bitter fact for you ignorant fools to swallow.You invest in other nations but in Kenya Nigerians invest in nothing apart from scamming activities and drug peddling by some of you.
Most of you here have nothing to do with the running of our economy.They're just students and some of you have engaged themselves in some menial jobs.You're always bitter fool as usual.

TayserMahiri:





Slow man. The dude might launch an albino hunt ASAP!

Kazikazi please don't, I take back what I said.

Theophinio:

Hey Kazikazi
Am not a girlfriend or wife hunter like you on the social forum
Get a life dude
Are you an Ethiopian, you might as well help with answers to my questions about Bahir dar
Thanks

Dude,I wasn't hunting.But I was just a lucky guy here.She didn't want any Kenyan but she chose me,a decent Tz guy.

About Bahir Dar...I think hat13 got answers.

mtisTheQubit:


Kazi moto is not an Ethiopian, but from the land of scientists. Their leader just discovered a new an rare isotope

Yes 100% correct. And our leader managed to push up the cashews price globally! What a feat!

Kazikazi:
Dude,I wasn't hunting.But I was just a lucky guy here.She didn't want any Kenyan but she chose me,a decent Tz guy.

About Bahir Dar...I think hat13 got answers.

Alright bro
Congrat on relationship status
Thanks for your help
I will contact hat13 as you have advised

Hati13:

We male celebrate too (I for example celebrate it when I was in senior high school).

As some sort of culture day/week?? We also had such but usually they dont involve everyone in the meat of things. Most of the people are spectators while some cultural performers do the presentations. Sort of entertainment for the interested masses. The closest you get to a truly cultural event is a marriage ceremony and related, or circumcision event for some few communities. Did/do yourself partake in the event including the traditional dresscode and singing and dancing?

But I think female care about it than us. Female generally like to dress and look beautiful so during culture day it’s perfect opportunity to show their respective customs.

Yes the females love such events so that they can dress up.

mtisTheQubit:

hell hath no fury like a Tanzan scorned....Ask the burned Kenyan Chicks

kazi moto

gallivant:




Kazikazi please don't, I take back what I said.

Let him do it.

Kazikazi:
I don't know those stuffs.I am a christian,go try urself since u know them

I told you majimaji answers won't be accepted. Visiting Dr Miti Shamba is national pastime in Tanzania. Jivunie Kuwait Mtanzania, don'tbe ashamed.

TayserMahiri:


Let him do it.

Let him fail in love? But he is my brother...

Theophinio:

Alright bro
Congrat on relationship status

Until data do us apart!

gallivant:


Let him fail in love? But he is my brother...

Yes. Frustrated love has been the inspiration for many great works

nemesis8u:


Kenyan students r treated as ants in India ?

Seriously it's funny the way people conjure nonsensical statements here

And I hope nobody is stupid enough to believe this bullshiit

Anyways people can google for drug peddling, scam and prostitution by foreigners in India , I doubt Kenyans r in the list.

A nigerian can say anything after an episode of codeine. Dont mind them.

Whats your feeling about the slain American preacher who went to Sentinelese to convert them to christianity without their approval?

rvp2018:
Real estate - Sub Sahara Retail sector outside South Africa - Lagos is below even Kampala .

Nairobi is obviously on another level outside RSA.

Lying Kenyan. This doesn't tell the whole story about the real estate in Africa. It's only about the numbers of retail space constructed and available as at 2017.

What about the office, industrial, residential, and the most important aspects of the Real Estate sector which is capital market review?

Let us start with the Retail sector.

1. Retail market (Real Estate)

As you can see, all retail development in the whole of Kenya is concentrated in one city called Nairobi according to your chart but you can see on the same chart, retail development was not restricted to one city in Nigeria in 2016, it spreads across many cities in Nigeria. And it was emphasized that developers are targeting others cities.

In short, apart from Delta mall Warri, Onitsha mall, Novare Lekki mall Lagos and Jabi lake mall listed (See snapshot 1) many malls were built btw 2015 - 2017 in different cities. This is the list of some of them.

Maryland mall Lagos (2016), Lennox mall, Lagos (2017), Circle mall, Lagos (2015), Festive mall Lagos (2015). Novera gateway mall Abuja (2017) Asaba mall (2016), Akure mall (2015), Owerri mall (2016), Sango ota mall (2017), Calabar mall (2016), Abia mall, Umuahia (2016), Funderland mall, Lagos (2016) etcetera.

Deceitful lying Kenyan like you only showed one part of the story and hid the rest.

To cut the story short. Let us compare the market value of Nairobi's retail sector with Abuja and Lagos retail sector by looking at the prime rent per square meter and prime yield.

From the stats below Lagos and Abuja retail sector is more expensive and profitable than Nairobi's retail sector. Bhuhahahaha! (see snapshot 2 and 3)

Mombasa is inconsequential in this discussion. Bhuhahahaha!


1 : 0 Nigeria leads.

rvp2018:
Kenya real estate sector - for 2016 - lot of activity - Nigeria - only the single tower of Eko City & World trade center of Abuja completed
Kenya
Retail - 100,000 sq m of retail added in 2016 - up from 50,000 in 2015
Office - 300,000 sq m of commercial space - up from the average of 150,000 in previous years

Nigera - absolutely nothing going on except in one tower Eko City -

Not so fast.


We have just done the retail sector and I have shown you many activities occurred in many cities.

Now, let us move to commercial space.

2. Commercial/office space market (Real Estate sector).

How can you conspicuously overlook the word 'recently over supply' term used to defined the activities previously done in the commercial space real estate both Lagos and Abuja, huh? So, you didn't see the over suplurs too? (Read snapshot 1).

Let us exam the market value of Nigeria's cities and Nairobi.

Lagos and Abuja is more expensive and profitable than Nairobi in the office/commercial aspect of the real estate. Bhuhahahaha! (see snapshot 2) you can also see the post above.

TayserMahiri:


As some sort of culture day/week?? We also had such but usually they dont involve everyone in the meat of things. Most of the people are spectators while some cultural performers do the presentations. Sort of entertainment for the interested masses. The closest you get to a truly cultural event is a marriage ceremony and related, or circumcision event for some few communities. Did/do yourself partake in the event including the traditional dresscode and singing and dancing?



Yes the females love such events so that they can dress up.

In the school I learned there is one day in a year where senior high school students celebrate culture day. I don’t know if it’s the same day as the country nation and nationality day (I forgot).

On that day, I did dance a little. I didn’t prepared well and as result didn’t fully dressed traditionally. I covered my hair like Menelik II do. The shirt was wear by some rural young Amhara. The shoe was common among rural Afar, Tigrean, Amhara.

Is there a national culture day in Kenya? Are there ppl in Nairobi who usually dress traditionally? I see Maasi ppl dress traditionally but I think their base is far from Nairobi.

rvp2018:
Kenya real estate sector - for 2016 - lot of activity - Nigeria - only the single tower of Eko City & World trade center of Abuja completed
Kenya
Retail - 100,000 sq m of retail added in 2016 - up from 50,000 in 2015
Office - 300,000 sq m of commercial space - up from the average of 150,000 in previous years

Nigera - absolutely nothing going on except in one tower Eko City -

Ahuuuuuu! You must have deceived your fellow Kenya's with this one but not me.

3. Residential market (Real Estate)

What happened to your empty residential estates in Nairobi due to exodus of expatriate from Kenya? (See snapshot 1). It seems poor Kenya's can't afford to live in estates hence 75% ended up living in slums not befitting for pigs. . Your government will rather upgrade the slums because they don't think the people can earn a living to live in estates.


Meanwhile, despite the surplus high end residential space in Lagos and Abuja, all have been occupied. (See snapshot 2)

This is a true reflection of a booming economy.

Despite the high rate of rent nobody has money to pay for an estate in Kenya save expatriates. Smh (See snapshot 3)

Abuja and Lagos is still more affordable and profitable than Nairobi in this aspect too. What are we talking about again? EOD
(See snapshot 2)

4. Industrial market (Real Estate)

Your old outdated industries are overpriced but unprofitable. Let me not disgrace you further because Kenya's industrial estate market is in shambles. Can't be compared with Nigeria.

forgiveness:


4. Industrial market (Real Estate)

Your old outdated industries are overpriced but unprofitable. Let me not disgrace you further because Kenya's industrial estate market is in shambles. Can't be compared with Nigeria.

You are only disgracing yourself. Notice how you are arguing with your shadow? Go back to sitting on the fence.

Runalong333:


I heard the Gautrain was not all South African made though , there was also a role played by a Canadian consortium. But it's always nice that your government prioritises South African big and small companies and labour before contracting foreigners, although I think you guys can be too demanding when it comes to this transformation process. I know it's part of the agenda to have as many black owned ( moreso youth and women) construction companies getting big contracts but these two groups have also made some mistakes like the bridge collapse in limpopo and others due to lack of experience. I think working much longer under experienced companies or contractors would be ideal . It's an admirable move that your government is empowering more indigenous companies though.

This was my post, notice the last bolded part


LMFAO, sweetheart check yourself before talking about who and what Chinese own in Africa grin. Zulus and their stupid whites are very far from being owned by China, you should check yourself on the list of countries that owe China and kindly check our position after grin. They build what here ?. Show me one single infrastructure built by chinkos in south Africa grin. Those thugs from chinises jails could never be allowed to build their fong kongs here , we prefer quality to quantity grin. Keep your Chinese trains to yourselves, we will continue building more trains ourselves . It's not our fault that your government chooses to empower foreigners instead of using your own companies and empowering your own young engineers , scientists and technicians grin. We would rather make blunders while trying than not even attempt anything .Made in south Africa by south Africans .........With a little help here and there with the Gau but 95% of the job proudly South African


As for empowering local companies , yes I applaud our government for that, with all the pressure from China for us to join the rest of Africa in letting them build us something we can do ourselves , they have stayed steadfast. Like ednited has been saying on this thread , africans should be focussing on the skills to build our own things than waiting for whites and Chinese to build and mantain our infrastructure. As for the mistakes made , well it comes with learning, but I'm proud to say the mistakes or should I say Fck- ups reported in the last 20 years were insignificant compared to the good jobs. The story of that lady in limpopo was all over the media because she failed!. Failed to listen to advice or do proper research , I mean who uses so much Chinese cheap material to build a bridge , even our poorest towns around the country don't go there . Her age (24) ,was also a cause for concern....when did she get all the experience?. The normal South African age to get your first degree is 22, so are they telling us in 2 years she was ready to take up such a responsibility ?. The truth will come out , but we all have our suspicions as to how and why that decision was made , it's a pity that the lives of our people had to be put at risk for that kaak . I'm all for learning as we go but not with such projects, bridges and tunnels should be left for people with real expertise, I'm sure there are plenty of women in that province that qualified to do the job if the tender was strictly for women owned companies. As for people getting more experience before being considered for such projects ....duh!! Isn't that what has been happening for the past two decades ? Or you think we all leave school and get tenders like this lady? . She was just " lucky" .

Kazikazi:
Tanzania's land is devided in three categories.All land is under custodian of a government.
1.Reserve land
2.General land
3.Village land

Reserve land.
This includes all national parks,game reserves,forest reserves,nature reserves,beaches etc.All of that is strictly under government ownwership.

General land
All land outside of urban areas but not in villages.any citizen is allowed to buy or own it.You need to specify what you plan to do on a land.The government has a right to revoke your ownership if you don't utilize this land accordingly. Also there are government farms under this category. These are the farms which were confiscated from white settlers.Government farms are not sold,they are leased,sometimes they are given for free to poor people.

Village lands.
This is all lands under villagers. Any citizen can buy.You just approach village leaders for that.

Foreigners...
No foreigner is allowed to own a land.It can only be leased.Any foreigner can approach Tanzania investment center and he will be leased a land which is under 'general land'.The gov has a right to revoke the lease agreement if the land is not properly utilized.

As custodian of a land,the gov has a right to evict anyone from a land for public uses (infrastructure projects like railway, pipelines, etc).The gov must compensate.

Ok , thanks for this . The last two are similar to the current situation we have , except for the farms. Now I understand why the Tanzanian solution was always on people's lips , it's what the EFF and other African groups suggested. The ANC has however decided that most of the land will be under the custodian of the government , but some of the land will be privately owned. I'm guessing they could not go full blown Tanzania because there is a lot riding on it ( including those who have invested in the country for so long). Soon we will know though as to what land will be in private hands , hopefully it wont lead to more conflicts.

mtisTheQubit:

i got my opinion but am scared of the lioness chic in case i say S.A is in a turmoil ...but i will reserve them for my well being

LOL, you got body guards don't worry .

TayserMahiri:


SA was a nuclear power with several nuclear bombs just before you got independence but they were destroyed.

How much wealth precisely are we talking about because SA had a lot of wealth by African standards as at '94. Am talking about wealth from manufacturing, agriculture and food processing, and minerals. Unless you prove me wrong, no country in Africa, at independence, had so much wealth to inherit and start with.

"Are you aware that when the ANC took over government in 1994, it found the fiscus in a dire state. In fact, more to the point, the country was in the red, in debt to the tune of US$23-billion — in other words, bankrupt — and that it managed over time to fix that and now has healthy reserves to the tune of $65-billion, which it managed to build up over the last 24 years?”

The Mandela administration had to cut down a number of civil servants because it could not afford to pay their salaries , so much for being rich . Since then there has never ever been a civil servant that had to go a month without their salary in South Africa. Everything tjat was left behind cost money to mantain and expand , money that was already in London, Geneva, Tel Aviv and them . So the new government had to sell their souls to get things going again , yes that includes giving up those minerals to " investors " which is part of the problems we are faced with today.

SA was a nuclear power....really? . This is news to us, thanks for this information . So what did all those bombs do for us ? . Are we now a better country because of that " inheritance "? . An inheritance that you mentioned was destroyed pre -94 . We are lucky people .

gallivant:


You are only disgracing yourself. Notice how you are arguing with your shadow? Go back to sitting on the fence.

This is what I call disgrace.

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I really dont know what was our literacy rate at independence. You can check that online but obviously it was low. You know I just checked the literacy rates between us and RSA and realized SA have pulled ahead of us lately. Not really sure thats true because I had Zuma in my mind much of the time. Honestly, I used to find South African blacks quite illiterate, much in the same way most of us find black Americans illiterate. I was actually surprised by the likes of Lioness and another dude called Jayceon when I landed in NL. They were and are quite smart than most Nigerians. I have to say I concede on this one. They now seem to have a slightly higher literacy rate than Kenya. Though they are the exception. Not many countries are more literate than Kenya, including Nigeria and Tanzania. Im even doubting this stat given a recent (2018) WB report which placed Kenya only behind Seychelles and Mauritius, largely because of our free, universal primary and secondary education, which tells you how well we get it on education.

There are even SA news articles preaching how SA should emulate Kenya's education system because we have an obviously superior basic literacy system. The thing to note however, and this not an excuse, is that we struggle with the arid nomads in terms of educating them, which definitely pushes our literacy rates down. But not to Naija level. Nigeria is a whole different subject on its own because what they have is spectacular failure, 66 % literacy. We have a better teacher to pupil ratio than SA, and a Kenyan child is likely to get an uninterrupted 11 yrs of O level school compared to a South African child who is only likely to get 8.

Again dont confuse literacy with higher education. You can be literate and not higher educated. Even the Tanzanian idiot can be said to be literate because you can see he can gather a few points here and there and come up with some sort of theme.




At the bolded , what does that mean ? When last did you check before now, because it's been like this for years .

To be honest , whenever I thought of kenya , education or literacy were the last thing on my mind. I was surprised when I started visiting this forum as well , I never expected to have a proper conversation nor read anything sensible from a Kenyan. My image of a Kenyan were the ones the Nigerians on this forum seem to have ; a tall , slim dude nodding or shaking his head when interviewed after a long race . [b]I was even surprised to know you had other races over there, not to mention well functioning cities and towns , I always thought it was mostly villages with people carrying huge loads on their heads to get to the nearest small town lol. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that you are actually a developing country . With black Americans , I hold different sentiments, they probably think we are all mostly poor with no education as well. There is a constant need by not only Hollywood but by America to show the world a one sided version of black America, that many short sighted Africans have accepted without any questions. Parading black people as losers and cry- babies in the most "advanced" country in the world is no coincidence or slip up , it is intentional ........BLACKS WILL ALWAYS BE BLACKS, LOOK AT THEIR COUSINS IN AFRICA STARVING FOR NO REASON. I'm not giving excuses for their obvious shortcomings , but we should also be told about the other version and the story behind the fck- ups , and I'm not talking about slavery but the current US system as a whole . [/b]

We have universal free primary and secondary school education as well , but the attention now is on the quality . For years people have been calling for a complete overhaul of the system but the government was focussing more on higher education and the infrastructure of primary and secondary schools and colleges . Now that over most of these schools have the necessary infrastructure in place , the focus is on what is being taught in class and how. So much money was set aside for research on what we are doing wrong and what we are doing right . So many suggestions have been made to scrutinise the zimbabwe , Kenya, German , Chinese, Ghana and Japanese systems to find a suitable solution for our challenge. South Africa is a developing country with its own challenges, just as we are a model in some instances like our higher education which has highly ranked Universities more than any other nation in Africa, we will also learn a thing or two from other developing nations that have found better solutions in the challenges[/b] we have .

When I challenged your literacy argument before , I also asked you how many graduates you had at independence and also the current percentage of educated Kenyans, just like us I don't think you are people who make assertions without backing them up with something credible . [/b]

Theophinio:
Hi Edited I love to ask you something about Bahir dar Mail me emekaezeokoye@gmail.com Thanks

Okay, I will try

Jonraid:
Every African country had its own problems.The spirits were high after uhuru(independence) but we were just not experienced running a government.You still had the whites who assisted you in that all along till now.We also had our Shifta wars which really slowed down our momentum along the other a 1000 plus one problems we had.Stop making it seem that we were a peace haven.We have heard attempted coups,tribal clashes and high profile murders that stabilized our unity and not forgetting our good peaceful neighbor in Somalia has always boarded us. This apartheid finger pointing just sounds like the way African Americans are still blaming slavery up to this age and time[b][/b].I would although give slavery of the African Americans a slightly different view cause being taken to places far from your land to a different continent for slavery was a bit extreme!

That is because you don't know what the system was about or what it did , so when people point out it's legacy you will probably think it's " playing victim". Firstly educate yourself on what both systems did to family structures (which is the ultimate way of destroying any society), this never happened in any other countries to the level of SA and USA. Follow that up with institutionalised racism which is a rigid stain to clean up , this is in the education, health and financial sectors . These are part of the " inheritance ". With America it must be a nightmare because there is no political power nor will to change the legacy. The only thing they can do is to emulate their ancestors after the end of slavery ; form black owned businesses and support only them , they have a big population that can do lot of damage to white pockets . Contrary to the crap we have been made to believe , there were a lot of thriving black American communities that sustained themselves without welfare , but they were burned down during the Jim Crowe erra to make way for white owned businesses, and the blacks pushed to inner cities to provide cheap labour for white owned businesses ( exact same story with South Africa before and during apartheid). People lost their land(wealth and identity) , Cattle ( wealth ) ,etc. This lead to the current disfuntions in both societies , the only difference is that South Africa is reversing the legacy , but I don't see it ever changing in America unless they organise themselves and re- do what they did before. And i think they have that opportunity with Trump , he might have his own racial biases but I would trust a leader that discourages dependency to the likes of democrats who have made them cripples for decades ( same Mandela legacy we are transforming).

Theophinio:
Hi Edited I love to ask you something about Bahir dar Mail me emekaezeokoye@gmail.com Thanks

Okay, I will try and am edNited

TayserMahiri:


Sounds great to have a national one. Which city is hosting it this month? What do the beautiful ladies celebrate in Ashenda? And why not men celebrating could be Ethio men dont care too much about culture? Perhaps Hati13 should chip in and say why they dont celebrate culture. I have to say the young lady in the 2nd pic piqued my interest What a natural hottie

I think Addis Ababa is the host this year.

I still don't know why only ladies celebrate Ashenda. . . . but it isn't because men don't care.

Yes, I really like the lady on the second pic