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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:20am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Hati13: Do you guys celebrate ende? Wendoch tigachewn yizew siyafetu new enji siyakebru ayche alawkim lok |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:24am On Nov 24, 2018 |
rvp20183: Again you seem to be running away from your own original post. You said at independence you had a higher number of educated people than South Africa, remember?. . And then you went on to say black South Africans only received higher education in the 90s and 2000s, right?. And when I corrected you, you changed it to quality . Then I said give me proof that you received quality higher education than those in south Africa and the sub Saharan Africa, I'm yet to receive it. Now you are busy changing the topic and playing victim , why would I want to compare Kenya in 1963 and South Africa 1994 ? . Yes , you can give me the number of educated Kenyans after independence till 1994, that is what I've been asking from you from the get go. I have given you the number of black south Africans that went to university pre 94 . How is this difficult ?. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:25am On Nov 24, 2018 |
They bring up starvation and Kibera as a measure of 'avoiding the elephant in the room!' Most of our African compatriots can't answer the most pertinent matters that we are raising in this thread! NairobiWalker: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:26am On Nov 24, 2018 |
@Theophinio I forgot my gmail password, this is where I can help you. Bahirdar is a beautiful city located in the north. It is one of the peaceful cities located in Ethiopia. The weather is good too. What are you planning for there? Are you thinking of a visit or settlement? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:27am On Nov 24, 2018 |
ednited:The Samburus have a similar culture too.... Mixture of different cultures assimilated into one.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Yes in 90s - many kenyan teachers - ended up in Southern Africa countries - Botswana & South Africa mostly. Jonraid: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:28am On Nov 24, 2018 |
rvp20183: LMFAO , OK. They are that good because they have built the infrastructure that has made our country the model of development in Africa . If they have worked in the UAE , I'm sure they are involved in Africa as well, but that was never the topic of discussion. My point was that anything in south Africa is made by South Africans, whether that hurts others or not, it's their own issue . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:29am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Maybe you're confusing me with someone else. I said historically kenyans & Zim were better educated than black South Africans. It easy if you are responding to what I said - simply QUOTE it. Yes if you want to compare kenya education system in 1994 and South Africa in 1994 - black - then we can do that. Or even now in 2018 - we can compare kenya education system btw now.And already that was done by SACMEQ http://www.sacmeq.org/ and yesterday I added GEF 2018 report - and consistently kenya beat South Africa like a drum. Lionessza6: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:30am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker:just tell her to show you where Kenyans are starving in 2018 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:32am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: You have slightly higher life expectancy than us ,we give you that . South Africa though with her own problems, has never had to deal with a starving populace . So as you kindly told us to focus on fixing certain issues in our country, i thought i would be also nice and remind you of some of the issues you have been faced with from your independence. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:34am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Jonraid: The adamancy of Africans to get facts right and learn is keeping us backward. Most of the knowledge Africans have about other Africans is stereotypical and nobody is willing to believe when facts are placed before them. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:34am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: Dude , I think you cane late to the discussion. It would be insane for anyone to compare a 1963 Kenya with a 1994 a South Africa , just page back a bit and follow the argument. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 9:35am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Kenyanstar: on the second pic- is that a cross on her forehead? It looks like that |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 24, 2018 |
South Africa infrastructure is definitely world class - and we would love to have them building stuff we can't build - as fellow Africans - rather than Chinese prisoners like you said. Obviously South Africa is on another level - and that we admit. But the your future prognosis my friend is very bad - and by 2030 - kenya may well be at your level. Lionessza6: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:37am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: 1. Nobody's ever said S. Africa has dealt with starvation on this thread. 2. You haven't answered the question. How can we be starving when we have among the highest life expectancy in Sub Saharan Africa? Starving people are dying people. You need to stop reasoning like Nigerians and get your facts right. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:37am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: Like is said , the ignorance and stereotyping is a disease that we all seem to have contracted . I will correct yours about us and you can do the same for your country , and we can all learn the real facts not the lies we have always believed . 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:38am On Nov 24, 2018 |
@Lionessza6 Thabo Mbeki During his tenure in office, the South African economy grew at an average rate of 4.5% per year, creating employment in the middle sector of the economy. The Black middle-class was significantly expanded with the implementation of Black Economic Empowerment (BEE). He attracted the bulk of Africa's Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) and made South Africa the focal point of African growth. He was the architect of NEPAD whose aim is to develop an integrated development framework for Africa He also oversaw the successful building of economic bridges to BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) nations with the eventual formation of the India-Brazil-South Africa (IBSA) Dialogue Forum Now tell me what mbeki means in xhosa coz one of my Grandparents was called Mbeki |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:39am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: Did you understand my point? I said, if you have to use a 1994 S Africa, then you should also use a 1994 Kenya. Stop twisting my point. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:41am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: No dear you didn't, but you did foolishly insinuate things that I've corrected. So if Kenya has not dealt with starvation in recent history , please accept my sincere apology and educate me about the situation. Hunger is not the only thing that kills people , we have a lot of people dying of diabetes in south Africa to name one , so you might have less of that. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:43am On Nov 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: Gosh ! Did you understand mine? . Why would I do 1963 Kenya vs South Africa 94 ? Is that even sensible ? . I said go back and see what me and your friend are talking about. You seem lost. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:43am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: I've never been stereotypical towards SA. I've been on this thread since it opened and I was at the forefront in telling Nigerians to stop deluding themselves comparing themselves to SA development wise when they could hardly keep up with Jenya because SA is miles ahead of the rest of Africa in that sector. I am however disappointed that you fed into their stereotypical views of Kenya. Like some Nigerian guy, Nowenuse, who claims Kenyans starve because of those skinny marathoners he sees on TV yet the very same marathoners are millionaires. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:44am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6:My respect for South Africa as a country still stands... The effects of unemployment in South Africa is similar to famine experienced in Kenyan Northern areas. The similarities are things beyond our control as a country due to natural and also man made troubles. The most affected tribe are the Turkana community who are purely nomadic who have suffered the effects of weather, hostility from neighboring communities from Ethiopia through cattle rustling and geographical expediency. The past decade has been the worst since drought ravaged their animals due to the harsh weather and rapid expansion of the Sahara desert. It is not as simple as it looks. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:44am On Nov 24, 2018 |
I think when they cannot deal with reality that Kenya is a progressive country that is rapidly growing - they resort to KaziKazi classics defense - 1) Kibera slum 2) starvation.Ethiopia used to be the poster child of starvation but they've fixed their country. China had people starving until recently. NairobiWalker: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:44am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Just back in 2011,Windhoek asked Nairobi for doctors because they had a deficit.I was taken aback! Why Kenya? We are not in the SADC and we don't share so much with Namibia more than they do with SA.I guessed they wanted 'black doctors' which Kenya had them https://allafrica.com/stories/201109301154.html rvp20183: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:46am On Nov 24, 2018 |
mtisTheQubit: LOL, maybe the grandparent was a South African refugee . You should do a DNA test . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:46am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: I'm not lost - I'm simply responding to your post. You asked to compare Kenya's educated population in 1963 to SA in 1994. Lionessza6: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:47am On Nov 24, 2018 |
What helped South Africa is the collapse of Zim otherwise they were be importing professional workers from Kenya too. You cannot hire the rest - because - look at KaziKazi - the best of Tanzania cannot even construct a proper English sentence. Jonraid: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:49am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Jonraid: LOL, I think little things excite too much at times. We also have doctors from Cuba , Nigeria UK etc , it's not that we don't have ours but with a growing population and so many immigrants we had a shortage especially in the rural parts . Same way America is always recruiting doctors from third world countries. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 9:51am On Nov 24, 2018 |
rvp20183: I just had to LMFAO at the bolded. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:52am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: Which things did I foolishly insinuate? I simply asked you to stop claiming Kenyans are starving. So who's the foolish one? Please, stop using foul language on me, I could choose to do the same to you but I haven't. SA has lower life expectancy mostly due to HIV, homicides and lifestyle diseases, I know that. My point wasn't for comparison purposes but just to let you know Kenya wouldn't be having a relatively higher life expectancy if we were starving. To make it simple, stop saying Kenyans are starving. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Lionessza6: No I will not do any DNA test..I’ll just claim Xhosa from now hence forth |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 24, 2018 |
Let me quote this - If it wasn't for Kenyans, Nigerians, Ghanians and Zimbwabwean proffesional coming to rescue your black post-Independence(post-1994) behind that had regress under Apertheid you won't be talking now. Now wonder you still have xenophobia - because we've heard you simply cannot compete with BLACK AFRICANS. South African institutions of higher learning offered much better salaries and easily recruited from elsewhere on the continent because they needed to satisfy the new employment rules in South Africa that demanded that a certain percentage of staff in an institution be black. Considering that the apartheid system had disadvantaged black South Africans in education, qualified and skilled Africans filled the gap in the immediate. Lionessza6: |
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