We need to reshuffle this cabinet. We need someone who will make things work in both manufacturing and agriculture. We can get Matiangi,look at what he did with the education sector and now with his recent reforms in our security and road.He may not be wearing fancy suits and acts abit egocentric but he gets things done. I love his passion,his impromptu visits to jkia to check if things are getting done. We just need people who will get things done. It's time the president gets tough with his cabinet ministers, Kenyans wants to see heads rolling! We shouldn't be pleased with a 6% economic growth and sit back !

rvp20183:
I also very optimistic but let's be realistic. Our manufacturing has gone down from 17% of the economy to 8% the last decade. Poor countries like Uganda and Ethiopia are starting to export finished goods to Kenya. We need to do a lot more here. I think Adan Mohammed knew what he was doing - but the miraa chewing guy now - is pretty much useless. The same with Kiunjuri & Wamalwa...to fix our food security....we must do what we did with energy...dump anything rain...and focus on irrigation schemes. That should be gov singular focus...not worrying about smallholder farmers issues (let counties handle those).

But good thing is that anti-corruption fight seems to be so serious - people are now pausing - before they dip their hands in public coffers.

But yes with or without - Big 4 agenda - Kenya economy will grow - it's on it's own momentum now - and GDP will certainly rise from 9 trillion Kshs to 15 trillion Kshs in 2022. You can already seem the amount of money getting wired through m-pesa - last year I think folks wired around 4.5 Kshs trillion (45B) through mobile money - that shows your the economy is very vibrant.

Anyway if gov delivers 0.5M housing at those prices (1M for 1 bedroom) and ensure nearly everyone has NHIF cover for both in & out patient and then continue to fight corruption & invest in basic infrastructure - I would be more than happy and Uhuru legacy will be more than secured.

Absolutely. You need 5 Matiangis/Michukis/Nyachaes/Rutos. Basically people with a commonsense approach to issues and who actually get stuff done. Otherwise majority of ministers think their jobs is to attend meetings, read a prepared speech and go back home. Others think their job is to churn out policy after policy after policy. What is lacking is implementation & the discipline to see through reforms.

I hope Matiangi after 1 more year in security - get shifted to Agriculture or Manufacturing. I think Macharia is also very good. But the two guys running food security & manufacturing have not yet owned the vision.

Jonraid:
We need to reshuffle this cabinet. We need someone who will make things work in both manufacturing and agriculture. We can get Matiangi,look at what he did with the education sector and now with his recent reforms in our security and road.He may not be wearing fancy suits and acts abit egocentric but he gets things done. I love his passion,his impromptu visits to jkia to check if things are getting done. We just need people who will get things done. It's time the president gets tough with his cabinet ministers, Kenyans wants to see heads rolling! We shouldn't be pleased with a 6% economic growth and sit back !

VILLA ROSA KEMPINSKI.

Lionessza6:



That is because you don't know what the system was about or what it did , so when people point out it's legacy you will probably think it's " playing victim". Firstly educate yourself on what both systems did to family structures (which is the ultimate way of destroying any society), this never happened in any other countries to the level of SA and USA. Follow that up with institutionalised racism which is a rigid stain to clean up , this is in the education, health and financial sectors . These are part of the " inheritance ". With America it must be a nightmare because there is no political power nor will to change the legacy. The only thing they can do is to emulate their ancestors after the end of slavery ; form black owned businesses and support only them , they have a big population that can do lot of damage to white pockets . Contrary to the crap we have been made to believe , there were a lot of thriving black American communities that sustained themselves without welfare , but they were burned down during the Jim Crowe erra to make way for white owned businesses, and the blacks pushed to inner cities to provide cheap labour for white owned businesses ( exact same story with South Africa before and during apartheid). People lost their land(wealth and identity) , Cattle ( wealth ) ,etc. This lead to the current disfuntions in both societies , the only difference is that South Africa is reversing the legacy , but I don't see it ever changing in America unless they organise themselves and re- do what they did before. And i think they have that opportunity with Trump , he might have his own racial biases but I would trust a leader that discourages dependency to the likes of democrats who have made them cripples for decades ( same Mandela legacy we are transforming).

I always read your posts:you're wise! Heard of Black Wall Street,Tulsa,Oklahoma? It was destroyed in 1921.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6obZEgKYvk

There were at least 5 or 6 other towns that suffered the same fate;many of these black townsmen,btw,weren't from Africa but indig American.

rvp20183:
South Africa of course has the capacity to pull heavy infrastructural projects while the rest of Africa - have to rely on either Chinese or Turkish or British or American or German or Japan contractors. You're in a different stage of development. Sadly there is no South African contractor that is bidding and winning such projects outside South Africa. It appears after building one of world's best infrastructure - all those South African companies somehow collapsed? or they are so insular? They should be winning road, bridges and rail contracts all over Africa - that is how South Africa will move to the next level - otherwise if you remain stuck there with 1% or contraction - then Kenya that now relies on Chinese will soon overtake you.

Unpack the latest EU loan,pls!

Kenya has signed a five-year €4.5 billion (Sh520 billion) loans and grants deal with the European Union (EU), adding to the country’s debt load that now stands at Sh5.146 trillion.

The amount, contained in EU’s 2018 to 2022 joint co-operation strategy, is an increase from the previous five-year deal of €3 billion (Sh346 billion) and will focus on President Uhuru Kenyatta’s Big Four agenda.

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-signs-Sh520bn-loans-and-grants-deal-with-European-Union/996-4849294-r16oq0z/index.html

Where exactly will it go? What purpose? Thanks.

EU - the big boys here are the french - France are committing (€1.412 billion) - the rest of 28 countries having small projects here and there. The french through AFD are normally interested in Energy (famously like Turkwell) & Water (Like Nairobi's Ndakaini). The next big one is the EU itself (committing 1B dollars - 500B through EU Investment Bank) - they are normally interested in roads projects & investment bank in anything. Germany the biggest EU country are not that generous or interested in Africa - but you'll find GTZ funding education (vocational colleges - I see them funding TIVET - which kenya is trying to copy their model).The next would be Italy - they normally don't lend much - but do - debt swap - they sort of "forgive" your old debt - mostly in irrigation projects The scandavian are interested in clean energy - solar, wind & geothermal would appeal to them.

kikuyu1:


Unpack the latest EU loan,pls!


https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-signs-Sh520bn-loans-and-grants-deal-with-European-Union/996-4849294-r16oq0z/index.html

Where exactly will it go? What purpose? Thanks.

rvp20183:
You're being disingenuous. You want to compare Kenya in 1963 with South Africa in 1994 . I am not big fan of just literacy - ability to read & write - so I am okay if you want us to compare black south africa now and black kenya now, or in 1994 or in 1963. Not to compare Kenyans in 1963 and South Africa in 1994.

Kenya black education essentially started in 1963..before that we had I think 1,000 schools only and by time we were set for independence we had I think 5 degree holders, 2 masters & possibly 1phd. That is how bad a deal we got before 1963.

What did we do after independence - we had to let whites & indians ran the civil service for another 10yrs - and our leaders esp Tom Mboya convinced US's president JF Kennedy to award scholarship to black Kenya students to the best universities of US of A. This was commonly referred to as The Kennedy AirLift programme - and out went 1,000 or about kenya students to best universities of the world - one of those student was Obama father - who went to Harvard - others include Nobel Laurate the Late Prof Wangari Mathai - those 1,000 or so kids were to form our first black political, business and civil service elite in 1970s. Majority came back straight from colleges to head parastals or become even Ministers.

BBC calls it the Airlift Programme that Changed the World.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33629577

And that is why you didn't see us running to South Africa for education - because we had secured scholarship to study in Harvard & Yale & Standfords thanks to Tom Mboya & JF Kennedy. A few also headed to Russia thanks to cold war but the institutionalized racism of USSR meant it was a waste of time.

Now post-independence - we invested so heavily in education systems - which explain why I think now or in 1994 - black kenyans were WAY BETTER EDUCATED than BLACK South Africans. From about 1,000 schools in 1963 than soon became about 30,000 schools or more if you include private schools. We have reformed education I think 3 times now - we started with British system - in 1980s we dumped that for Canadian system - and now we are dumping that for new system that is homegrown I think. Overall our education system as always been ranked highly in Sub-Sahara Africa.

The same cannot be said of South Africa...I have also heard very good things about Zimbwabwe education system.

THANKS FOR THAT! Somehow none of us have even mentioned the Airlift WHICH WAS A GAME CHANGER! Lionessza6,in the absence of solid evidence I'll have to go with rvp20183. A number of Kenyans were in your unis and frankly weren't impressed with Black SA scholastics. These are friends and fam who attended UCT,Wits and even Pietermaritzburg,IIRC between 93-2010.

Jonraid:
We need to reshuffle this cabinet. We need someone who will make things work in both manufacturing and agriculture. We can get Matiangi,look at what he did with the education sector and now with his recent reforms in our security and road.He may not be wearing fancy suits and acts abit egocentric but he gets things done. I love his passion,his impromptu visits to jkia to check if things are getting done. We just need people who will get things done. It's time the president gets tough with his cabinet ministers, Kenyans wants to see heads rolling! We shouldn't be pleased with a 6% economic growth and sit back !

Which year did you got 6% growth?

Kazikazi:
Which year did you got 6% growth?

Combined quarterly reports of 2018, while you get 5.8%

rvp20183:
What is there to be proud about Nigeria. You led in bleaching your skin. 95% of Nigerians are using skin lightening creams/injections/name it to appear "white" & "beautiful". You think being black is something to be ashamed of.

Nigeria has the world's highest percentage of women using skin lightening agents in the quest for "beauty"

You actually think calling someone black is an insult. How many times have you accused kenyans of being ugly because they were black? African pride? STOP BLEACHING.STOP IMPORTING tonnes of brazillian and indian fake hair & nails & eye-lashes. Start importing some self-esteem...learn what makes whites & indians great races (good education, strong work ethic, self discipline)..not their looks...and copy that. Don't copy how they look.

If being a racist makes you proud - then some of us will rather not be proud. I am proud that Kenya seem to handle it's racial issues way better now.

Just for the record - I am very proud black as sooth african who has no issues with indians or arabs or whites - it very reflective of your upbringing if you think being proud is hating or competing with other races. You can only be proud of your achievements. You cannot just be proud of nothing like a typical Nigeria. That makes you an obnoxious slowpoke.

Hahahahaha yes Nigerians are know to bleach but that is not What I was referring to and you know it very well. You are now desperate to cover yourself, you are no black African if you are then you must be the most self hating goon ever. I have been reading your posts when it comes to blacks anywhere and they are evidence of your thinking less of them, including the black kenyans you claim to represent . The only way a black Kenyan can make it from your posts is if he is politically connected or a criminal like the drug dealer you love to display as black Kenyan success story . You become hurt like hell when Nigerians show you fully black owned Nigerian businesses that are all over the continent , because you expect the Kenyan situation with us too . When I applauded the South Africans for using their own companies to build infrastructure not Chinese, you were the first to downplay that , claiming it's nothing because they are only operating in south Africa . My friend , you can fool the Kenyans but you are not black. And your always promoting dependency to Asians and whites in terms of growth is also telling . But continue fooling the fools.

NairobiWalker:
Whatever anyone said, I am telling you right now your league is Somalia. You've been dickriding South Africans for too long they're almost getting tired of you.

You want me to praise kibera? . But you have nothing likeable .

NairobiWalker:


Actually, that's a known Nigerian mentality. I guess you haven't been on this thread long enough but your Nigerian brothers kept crediting African success from other African countries to whites and Indians. Our foolish Kenyan brother rvp even shocked Jazeblaze (a real South African btw, not a wannabe like you ) because generally that's a kind of stupidity only common among Nigerians.

Stop trying to downplay the stupidity displayed by your compatriots yesterday . Nigerians who do that are usually desperate, so we're your compatriots desperate and overwhelmed by the lone south african girl ?

kikuyu1:


THANKS FOR THAT! Somehow none of us have even mentioned the Airlift WHICH WAS A GAME CHANGER! Lionessza6,in the absence of solid evidence I'll have to go with rvp20183. A number of Kenyans were in your unis and frankly weren't impressed with Black SA scholastics. These are friends and fam who attended UCT,Wits and even Pietermaritzburg,IIRC between 93-2010.

You missed the argument between the two as well. The guy said there were no black south Africans who got higher education before the 90s and 2000s, and that there were more black Kenyan educated people in 1963 vs 1994 South Africa ( which was absurd). And that the literacy rate of South Africa is lower than your own currently.

The South African girl provided a list of black Universities and the number of graduates pre 94 and asked for the guy to provide the same for Kenya in 1963 and infact she even said from 1963 to 1994. And she was not disputing the claim as bogus in her tone but like you always insist she wanted proof .What did she get in return insults and slander . She and the white guy provided proof that south Africa not Kenya currently leads the literacy rate , but because that didn't sit well with you, she was told that is useless talk even though it was part of the original argument , but since it was against Kenya she received more insults .

So this girl never claimed you were less educated or whatever but wanted proof not insults and slander. All we heard was that you have better basic education and she like a classy lady didn't fight you on that , infact she said you are right and you are one of the countries they are learning from . What did she get ? more insults on how dumb they are for not being like Kenya .

With your last part , just like she said, most of what was thrown at her were opinions and what you have written to here is that . Most of my buddies who are studying in Kenya and doing business have low opinions of black kenyans in terms of business prowess and intellect , is that really the truth ? I don't have proof of it either just hearsay. If you notice when black people go to a multiracial setting, their target for ridicule will be the black part , but they will be impressed by even the dumbest things whites do. I'm not saying their observations weren't true , or saying my friends are right, but I'm being objective. Facts vs opinions.

Kur17:


Combined quarterly reports of 2018, while you get 5.8%

So u didn't reach 6%

Kur17:


It can't be normal, if not poverty it madness, a certain leader from there said 75% of them are lunatics...Nigeria is mental hospital

NairobiWalker:


Rats have been known to carry the world's most dangerous illnesses. The famous plague was carried by rats. The only way a society can resort to eating rats is due to extreme hunger and starvation.

Thank God, had started to question my sanity

Kenyanstar:

Am so shocked the bitch can talk such blatantly as if we dont know what the black man rule has brought to South Africa. When the white man was ruling South Africa flourished, no power blackouts, good infrastructure, minimal crime and a working educational system. Then in comes the black man and crimes soars to its highest peak. Show me any major infrastructure that has been built by the black man in South Africa? A country that was so full of potential has degenerated into a haven of mafia families controlling the government. A den of thieves, crime, bank robberies, highest rape rate in Africa and a failing economy.

Be careful with some of those MSM stats about SA!

Kazikazi:
So u didn't reach 6%

I said you(Tanzania) did 5.8%

Runalong333:


Stop trying to downplay the stupidity displayed by your compatriots yesterday . Nigerians who do that are usually desperate, so we're your compatriots desperate and overwhelmed by the lone south african girl ?

Your rat soup is boiling. You need to hurry.

Runalong333:


You want me to praise kibera? . But you have nothing likeable .

Nobody needs your praises. You just need to be humble like your brothers in Makoko. You don't denounce your mother when you visit your rich neighbor.

Africans need tough love and they need the truth.For the record I consider Boers Africans.Theyve been here for nearly 500yrs..I considers Kenya Arabs and Indians Kenya and I celebrate their recognition as a tribe..Both South Africa and Kenya can benefit alot from harnessing their current skills as they work hard to bridge the divide.Most kenyans that suceeded in kenya learnt business acumen from Asians.Most Asians learnt modern business from Whites.Whites learnt business maybe from black ancient Egyptian.That is why Nigerian rushed to Zimbabwe to get white farmers to kick start their farming.We live in global village..you cannot compete if your priorities are wrong.Yes RSA land reforms are required but they are not as half important as fixing education.Youll end up a typical Congo or Nigeria or Tanzania..incredible resources..with incredible poverty.Idi Amin of Uganda chased all Indians and country economy crashed.Mugabe did the same with whites with same effects.You can beat them by educating your kids so well they would compete with anyone, by imparting discipline and work ethic.You cannot beat them any other way..yes there are structural reforms needed to remove discrimination here and there but overall the issues bedevelling us are within us .And I am as black as a South Sudanese.

Runalong333:



Hahahahaha yes Nigerians are know to bleach but that is not What I was referring to and you know it very well. You are now desperate to cover yourself, you are no black African if you are then you must be the most self hating goon ever. I have been reading your posts when it comes to blacks anywhere and they are evidence of your thinking less of them, including the black kenyans you claim to represent . The only way a black Kenyan can make it from your posts is if he is politically connected or a criminal like the drug dealer you love to display as black Kenyan success story . You become hurt like hell when Nigerians show you fully black owned Nigerian businesses that are all over the continent , because you expect the Kenyan situation with us too . When I applauded the South Africans for using their own companies to build infrastructure not Chinese, you were the first to downplay that , claiming it's nothing because they are only operating in south Africa . My friend , you can fool the Kenyans but you are not black. And your always promoting dependency to Asians and whites in terms of growth is also telling . But continue fooling the fools.

rvp20183:
Africans need tough love and they need the truth.For the record I consider Boers Africans.Theyve been here for nearly 500yrs..I considers Kenya Arabs and Indians Kenya and I celebrate their recognition as a tribe..Both South Africa and Kenya can benefit alot from harnessing their current skills as they work hard to bridge the divide.Most kenyans that suceeded in kenya learnt business acumen from Asians.Most Asians learnt modern business from Whites.Whites learnt business maybe from black ancient Egyptian.That is why Nigerian rushed to Zimbabwe to get white farmers to kick start their farming.We live in global village..you cannot compete if your priorities are wrong.Yes RSA land reforms are required but they are not as half important as fixing education.Youll end up a typical Congo or Nigeria or Tanzania..incredible resources..with incredible poverty.And I am as black as a South Sudanese.

Oh shut up, you are only fooling yourself with your nonsense . You are not black but a Kenyan " tribesman" with benefits . I figured you out a long-time . Fool your Kenyans not us. You are probably that Kenyan Indian who used to have a different moniker here .

It was a Game Changer indeed! The economy was young and greatly needed more learned individuals to run the country's affairs. It was sad that some years ahead,men who were known as the epitome of education brilliance such as the likes of Tom Mboya, Robert Ouko,Pio Gama Pinto among others were victims of political assassination! I just learnt of Tom Mboya, he deserves a wonderful sit in Kenya's and Africa's history! He was a true Pan Africanist and a true friend of the American teacher of morals Martin Luther king Jnr ! Tom Mboya,the president that Kenya never had

kikuyu1:

THANKS FOR THAT! Somehow none of us have even mentioned the Airlift WHICH WAS A GAME CHANGER! Lionessza6,in the absence of solid evidence I'll have to go with rvp20183. A number of Kenyans were in your unis and frankly weren't impressed with Black SA scholastics. These are friends and fam who attended UCT,Wits and even Pietermaritzburg,IIRC between 93-2010.

Kur17:


I said you(Tanzania) did 5.8%

We are growing at 7% per annum.When we start our LNG exports,we will grow at 15%.We will be like Singapore.

NairobiWalker:


Nobody needs your praises. You just need to be humble like your brothers in Makoko. You don't denounce your mother when you visit your rich neighbor.

People in makoko are not starving to death like those in kibera who are even child prostitutes for sanitary towels . What is wrong with you people? . If you are not selling your wives, it's your daughters , who is safe in Kenya

Cruising to in some of the middle class residential estates in Kenya



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F04KBIC7CAU

Runalong333:


People in makoko are not starving to death like those in kibera who are even child prostitutes for sanitary towels . What is wrong with you people? . If you are not selling your wives, it's your daughters , who is safe in Kenya

Statistics say otherwise.

https://www.globalhungerindex.org/results/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/09/nigerias-young-daughters-sold-money-wives-180921153424671.html

NairobiWalker:


Your rat soup is boiling. You need to hurry.

Lol are you jealous that I will have a meal , while you and your family will starve to death tonight? . If you have a wife , hurry and get that btch to the nearest tourist destination, white men need a sex slave in exchange for a loaf of bread .

Runalong333:


Lol are you jealous that I will have a meal , while you and your family will starve to death tonight? . If you have a wife , hurry and get that btch to the nearest tourist destination, white men need a sex slave in exchange for a loaf of bread .

A rat is not a meal my friend.

Actually, it's Nigerians who sell their women and girls. Don't be confused.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/09/nigerias-young-daughters-sold-money-wives-180921153424671.html

rvp20183:
Africans need tough love and they need the truth.For the record I consider Boers Africans.Theyve been here for nearly 500yrs..I considers Kenya Arabs and Indians Kenya and I celebrate their recognition as a tribe..Both South Africa and Kenya can benefit alot from harnessing their current skills as they work hard to bridge the divide.Most kenyans that suceeded in kenya learnt business acumen from Asians.Most Asians learnt modern business from Whites.Whites learnt business maybe from black ancient Egyptian.That is why Nigerian rushed to Zimbabwe to get white farmers to kick start their farming.We live in global village..you cannot compete if your priorities are wrong.Yes RSA land reforms are required but they are not as half important as fixing education.Youll end up a typical Congo or Nigeria or Tanzania..incredible resources..with incredible poverty.Idi Amin of Uganda chased all Indians and country economy crashed.Mugabe did the same with whites with same effects.You can beat them by educating your kids so well they would compete with anyone, by imparting discipline and work ethic.You cannot beat them any other way..yes there are structural reforms needed to remove discrimination here and there but overall the issues bedevelling us are within us .And I am as black as a South Sudanese.

Or you might end up like Kenya...incredible economic theories...with incredible starvation and huge slums all over.
Overall the issues bedeviling you are within your head!

Tom Mboya was ahead of his time.Way ahead of his time.He was like an Obama in 1960..his charisma, intelligence and oratory skills were out of this world and yet he was mostly self taught.

Jonraid:
It was a Game Changer indeed! The economy was young and greatly needed more learned individuals to run the country's affairs. It was sad that some years ahead,men who were known as the epitome of education brilliance such as the likes of Tom Mboya, Robert Ouko,Pio Gama Pinto among others were victims of political assassination! I just learnt of Tom Mboya, he deserves a wonderful sit in Kenya's and Africa's history! He was a true Pan Africanist and a true friend of the American teacher of morals Martin Luther king Jnr ! Tom Mboya,the president that Kenya never had

KENYA

Kazikazi:
We are growing at 7% per annum.When we start our LNG exports,we will grow at 15%.We will be like Singapore.

How did you (TZ) grew on the 1st and 2nd quarter of this year?