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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 8:59pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Abuja city renders Nairobi a complete slum,decorated with skyscrapers |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:49pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Kenyanstar:That second pic is not Kenya.You keep on cheating.From 'Harare pics' now you bring this lie again! Ho ho ho ho....huhuhuhuhuhu 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:05pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Someone posted this two towers as Kenya's! Mind you,these are over 50 floors each,while the AVIC tower in Kenya is under construction with 44 floors. A Kenyan lie again!!
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:22pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
rvp20183: Do you think Dangote became rich by having just two companies? Guy! You don't know anything. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:23pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Kazikazi: Bhuhahahaha! chaiiiiiii! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:12am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Jonraid: It is very disappointing that Kenya's here can't understand the basics core of system of government.. Under Kenya's unitary system of government, budget is allocated to the 47 counties in Kenya. Kenya's total budget for 2018/2019 was just $24b dollars. From this, $2.7b is allocated to the 47 counties due to Kenya's system of government. This is called devolution budget in Kenya. That is not the case with Nigeria. There's nothing like devolution budget allocated to the states rather all states generates revenue to make their own budgets. For example, Lagos state 2018 budget was $3.9b dollars. River State was $1.4b dollars. Akwa Ibom $1.8b dollars. Cross River State was $3.6b dollars. Delta state was $1b dollars. Ogun state was $1b dollars etc This 6 states total budget for 2018 was approximately $12.7b dollars. if I add the remaining 30 states and FCT, we are talking about $45b - $50b dollars. Now, add that to our national budget, we can't get nothing less than $70b dollars. https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://kenyayote.com/kenya-budget-2018-2019-summary-and-full-pdf-statement-henry-rotich-speech/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiatez_zvDeAhVqyoUKHRMIB2IQFjACegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2mXsMSTvQ1bR2KG14By4ju&cf=1&cshid=1543186301427
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:55am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Kenya Defence Forces Brigadier Fatuma Ahmed, 1st African Female Major-General |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:06am On Nov 26, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:42am On Nov 26, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:23am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Ruto? Oh give me a break! A tree log would lead us to prosperity than that man!I hope the 'power brokers' take it from him! He just doesn't cut it for me,but it's called preferences. Good-luck with your guy! kikuyu1: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:44am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Our budget wasn't 24 billion US dollars.Get your facts right!! It was 30 billion US dollars! https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/06/14/inside-the-sh3-trillion-201819-budget_c1772862 This was your budget! There's nothing like 70 b! https://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFKBN1JG1IR-OZABS Kenya's counties collect their own revenues for their own budgetary commitments and also receive a 15 % of share of the total government's budget! How you come up with numbers to get 70b is still vague.Provide irrefutable proof of each state budget and it's own revenues.Come up with clear computations to make up that combined 70b. Otherwise,you'll be talking to a wall! https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/249059-2018-nigerias-biggest-budget-yet-meagre-compared-angola-south-africas.html Analyst from the above link talked of Nigeria's 2018-2019 budget.It is sad that they didn't mention the 'other budgets' and no one sees it because it's simply not there or it's insignificant or maybe it only exists to you! forgiveness: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 6:54am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Kur17: Nigeria's 2018 budget was approximately $30b dollars.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:55am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA Mt. Kenya
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:56am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA Mt.Kenya
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:59am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA Lake Turkana Windpower farm Biggest windpower farm in Africa 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:07am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA The new 3km deep Olkaria Geothermal plant capable of producing 10MW to be added to the national grid next year. Its completion will enable the electrification of the current 120m/hr SGR train.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:07am On Nov 26, 2018 |
https://allafrica.com/stories/201712180016.html 1) N12.2 trillion combined budgets of the two tiers of governments in 2016 - around 34B dollars. 2) In 2017, the federal and 33 state governments budgeted N13.5 trillion - around 38B dollars 3) 2018 you can estimate about 40B (there is data for federal + 33 states - 3 missing) - around 41B - we shall ignore some states presented very unreleastic budges - Anambra or Cross river is really hiarously Nigerian. Now Kenya in 2018 had 31B dollars budget (3.07Kshs trillion). All the 47 combined counties - maybe had 4-5B budget. Total Kenya national & state budget is around 35B compared to Nigerias 40B combined state+federal budget in rough estimate. The way Kenya budget is growing the next budget I suspect Kenya budget will overtake Nigeria oil dependent budget. 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16am On Nov 26, 2018 |
It okay for someone like you with an inquisitive mind to question everything - including mainstream knowledge - origin of bantus/hiv/moon landing/jewish conspiracy - but if you're a leader facing an epidemic - you want to learn to listen to experts and really focus on stopping the spread of the new disease. Whatever HIV is or is not - it's killing people upto now - and it started somewhere in mid 80s. The first people to really get hit were sex workers, gays and guys injecting themselves drugs - those are enough facts to stop the disease - you already knows it spread through bodily fluids (blood, semen, etc) - and that is what likes of Cuba with a great public health care did. That is what Museveni did in Uganda to reverse the course of the disease that by 1990 had infected more than 30% of Uganda. Now for someone like Mbeki to act like you in 2000s in a serious matter like HIV/AIDS was really unfortunate, lots of south africans had to die, millions if i am not wrong, for him to get the point, lifespan reduce to 40s, and now they really get it - and are doing what Uganda was doing in 1990s - in 2018. They are doing whatever they can to stop the spread of disease and alleviate the sufferings...as scientist grapple with it. I am not a virologist so I don't want to get into long debate on a obviously technical area we are all ill-equiped. Those debates should be held in LANCET or Scientific forums. Mbeki should never have been a leader. kikuyu1: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:18am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Jonraid: Nigeria practice three tiers of governors. That is the reason there is nothing like devolution budget allocated to states on our budget. Unlike Kenya's counties that receive devolution budget from the central government of Kenya due to Kenya's unitary system of government. You can lie forever to yourself but I know the truth. This is just Lagos state and Cross Rivers state 2018 budgets passed into law by their own state House of assembly. That is approximately $6.6b dollars for just two states. Do you mean the opposition analysts? https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.channelstv.com/2018/02/15/cross-river-state-house-assembly-passes-n1-3tn-2018-budget/&ved=2ahUKEwiTjNj1sPHeAhUdgM4BHTH9B3YQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3P_CbNquRtMgJjfLJHdWX3&cshid=1543212717945 https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.channelstv.com/2018/02/15/cross-river-state-house-assembly-passes-n1-3tn-2018-budget/&ved=2ahUKEwiTjNj1sPHeAhUdgM4BHTH9B3YQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3P_CbNquRtMgJjfLJHdWX3&cshid=1543212717945
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:22am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Total state+federal budget of 2017 was 41B ( I am adding 1B for 3 missing states). Get us Local Authorities Budget so we can conclude this debate. Kenya total budget for Counties & National - was around 35B (National had 31B). As you can see with all the OIL and with all 200M people you budget is really TINY - you are 5B better than Kenya - and yet most of the budget making is unrealistic - unrealistic estimate of oil production & internal revenues. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:25am On Nov 26, 2018 |
rvp20183: See what Kenya's 47 counties get from the$30b dollars. $2b dollars Crumbs!
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:38am On Nov 26, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: He was being sarcastic to Mudavadis proclaimed fame of being a great economist because of his one shot success, he just provided that example to show just because it's done doesn't necessarily mean it was his doing. I'm noticing some divisive tactics at play from allies to in between Kenyans themselves, guess it's all fun but I hope you all don't fall prey to this. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:38am On Nov 26, 2018 |
rvp20183: Can you show me the source you got $35b dollars for 2017 budget for both Kenya's National and counties? Was Kenya's 2017 budget up to $31b dollars? Show me now before I begin to disgrace you like I use to. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:48am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA The beauty of a country is measured by the preserve of its people....
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:52am On Nov 26, 2018 |
KENYA BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TAITA HILLS
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:05am On Nov 26, 2018 |
We have been arguing for over 2,500 pages and seems there is no end. I want to show the main reason why Kenyans have been fiercely defending the integrity of its development record. The past 2 decades has been euphoric to Kenyans in matters development and its fruits has been a joy to behold. Kenya rivaled only by Ethiopia in infrastructure development in Africa are the key architects of a booming craze in expanding its infrastructure in a scale only witnessed in the 90's by Asian tigers. In less than 2 decades they have built massive life changing developments to its own citizens in the shortest period leaving analysts wondering what another 2 decades or less is in store for their citizens. Before and after pictures of massive road project in Kenya done... 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:12am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Devolution didn't get 2b! Do your math again! forgiveness: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:14am On Nov 26, 2018 |
How realistic are their estimates? rvp20183: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:23am On Nov 26, 2018 |
There exist articles pointing out their budget to be only 25 billion USD. 9.1 trillion Naira gives you 25b https://www.ecofinagency.com/public-management/1605-38489-nigeria-parliament-increases-2018-budget-to-25-billion http://www.africanews.com/2018/06/21/nigeria-s-president-muhammadu-buhari-signs-2018-budget-into-law// https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/nigerian-lawmakers-increase-2018-spending-plans-to-25-billion I can't really trust them! Even a 50 billion USD budget for Nigeria is still low considering how many they are! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:28am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Jonraid:What is the reason of those guys having billion dollar budgets yet nothing tangible on the ground!!! Kenya with its meager budget has outwitted, out developed and dismembered the efficiency of a huge Nigerian figure budget on paper but nothing to show for it. Imagine Kenya with the new oil revenue? What can it achieve if fully utilized in a decade or 2..... I feel the only limit will be the sky. Its time the Nigerian government stopped decorating its budget and really work on the utilisattion of its remaining small portion of oil wealth. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:28am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Masai Cricket warriors What they said-"Bowling wasn't hard for us,it was like throwing a spear''
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:36am On Nov 26, 2018 |
Kenyanstar:Pwaaaaaa Hohohohoho... |
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