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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:49am On Nov 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
Pwaaaaaa
Hohohohoho...
Gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17
Do we make our neighbor so much jealous that he cant afford to appreciate natural things... I would have assumed it if it was about maybe Nairobi or any other city or town that is man made. But surely natural things from God makes an individual so bitter and pained to such an extent. The Magufuli people need our prayers, their hate for us in undeniably deeper than i thought.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:01am On Nov 26, 2018
Gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17, MtuMsuper
This forum has generated a lot of interests from foreign nationals and they have a genuine bit of desire to come visit. Here are testimonials by even Nigerians, Ethiopians and other Africans themselves who have desired to come visit or visited already....
Hati13:

Hi PissedYagami, your country Kenya is definitely beautiful, not just only from the photos posted, but I've also heard about it from a friend and read about it from tourists on the internet. Our country is also very beautiful. You better do something, because it's a matter of time before Ethiopia become one of the world most tourist destination countrysmileycheesy. For me it is the most beautiful place in the world(I'm not been biased). If I had a chance, I would love to visit your country, even if it's going to take me to travel by foot(but too bad I've no the intention to breathe anymoresad).
BedLam:
Girma! smiley
Kenya is so lovely. Nairobi weather is so nice.
streetwise2015:
@Bedlam Pls how much did it cost you to get the Visa and what is the Process like? How much is the Flight ticket?...Await ur response..Thanks
austino677:
Is Kenya colder than Nigeria? Looks beautiful though
BedLam:
The City is very much green. I don't think any Nigerian City can compete with it even in terms of greenery.
BedLam:
My deductions...Nairobi has more Malls than the whole of Nigeria. I kid you not! The night life here is amazing! There are stores and restaurants that open 24/7. You can get anything you want.

claremont:
Lovely thread OP. I have visited Kenya a few times and loved every minute of my time there. Infact, I consider myself more Kenyan than Nigerian because I not only lived there on and off for a couple of months, but I also dated a cute little Kenyan lady at some point. I spent most of my time in Kenya up North in the rural suburbs like Nanyuki and Isiolo due to the nature of my job then, I really enjoyed living in the remote towns. Kenya is an amazing country where things actually work as the should, it will take Nigeria a good few years to get to the point Kenya is at the moment. The respect they have for their wildlife alone is something Nigerians should emulate. You need to try their food i.e. Ugali + vegetables + barbecue meat/fish. This thread fills me with nostalgic memories. grin
BedLam:
You are right! Some sort of decency you can't see in Nigeria. Imagine a Safari park in the middle of the City!
That's why their tourism is booming. Nairobi Airport is more than 3 times bigger than MMIA. So much life is here.
BedLam:
you have everything that's beautiful here. The west lands, parklands and Karen are something Lagos can't compete with. I might get other pic of the city tomorrow and 26. Hang on!
BedLam:
laugh one kee me!


You have a lot to do in Nairobi than in Lagos. Their airport is busy 24/7 and it's 3 times bigger than the one in Lagos. There's a reason for that. Tourism is a very big business here. Do you even have a museum in Lagos ?
suyamasta:
Kenya is moving forward, Naija na mouth we just d make no action
seunny4lif:
Buhari come and see your mate o oooh
Giant of Africa my left ball.
Nigeria is the worst country in Africa
See terminal even dey beautiful pass our MMIA shocked shocked

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:24am On Nov 26, 2018
[/b]Emerging wealthy Nigerians most enterprising in Africa, others – Report[/b]

Nigeria is the most entrepreneurial market across Asia, Africa and the Middle East when it comes to increasing wealth, a new research by Standard Chartered revealed on Wednesday.
The report found that Nigeria’s emerging affluent considered that effective wealth management held the key to greater social mobility.
More emerging affluent consumers in Nigeria planned to start a business to increase their wealth than in any other market, according to the new Standard Chartered study.
It stated, “The Emerging Affluent Study 2018 – ‘Climbing the prosperity ladder’ – examines the views of 11,000 emerging affluent consumers – individuals who are earning enough to save and invest – from 11 markets across Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
“In Nigeria, 41 per cent of emerging affluent consumers say that starting their own business is a strategy to meet their financial goals and increase their wealth; this compares to an average figure of just 27 per cent.
“It is the second most popular strategy to increase wealth among the emerging affluent in Nigeria behind investing in financial products (55 per cent); and ahead of career progression and salary increase, which sits in third place (33 per cent).”
The report said that the number one financial goal for Nigeria’s emerging affluent was saving towards their children’s education, with 14 per cent stating this.
“It is also the top savings priority across the markets in the study (16 per cent). For more than one in 10 (11 per cent), setting up a business is the top savings goal; this is higher than any other market – the average figure is just seven per cent,” it added.
According to the report, when it comes to meeting their financial goals, more than half (54 per cent) of the emerging affluent in Nigeria said they invested with a target and a strategy to achieve it.
It stated, “Despite this, when describing the financial products they used to meet their goals, the most basic savings approaches came out on top: 59 per cent use savings accounts. By comparison, less than one-fifth use fixed income investments (19 per cent), equity investments (13 per cent) and mutual funds (12 per cent).”
https://punchng.com/emerging-wealthy...others-report/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:24am On Nov 26, 2018
Are these towers in Kenya?
Pwahahahaha

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:30am On Nov 26, 2018
68816419:
[/b]Emerging wealthy Nigerians most enterprising in Africa, others – Report[/b]

Nigeria is the most entrepreneurial market across Asia, Africa and the Middle East when it comes to increasing wealth, a new research by Standard Chartered revealed on Wednesday.
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But Nigerians ain't seeing anything positive bro.... This is what they are saying about your opinion.
BankeSmalls:
Nigeria is the nearest experience to hell fire.
izzou:
grin grin

Getting out of this country is the only solution we have

Nigeria won't get better, whether Buhari or Atiku wins.

The system is still the same.
OgogoroFreak:
Nigeria is the hell fire. When the world ends, God will send all sinners around the world to Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:32am On Nov 26, 2018
TayserMahiri:


If you're trying to say most of the positive Africans actually dont have HIV then you're dead wrong. Africa has the highest HIV prevalence (by a long shot even if we account for your false positives) because of a very peculiar behavior we have, or at least had until recently - multiple, long-term, simultaneous, sexual relationships. Its unique in scale among us, compared to others. You can go through the article below.

http://discovermagazine.com/2004/feb/why-aids-worse-in-africa

I've heard all those theories including 'dry sex' and this one before:if you honestly believe the official story and think this virus somehow jumped from a slaughtered monkey infected with simian AIDS and mutated to HIV its ok.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:32am On Nov 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
Are these towers in Kenya?
Pwahahahaha
hahahahah don't even worry your self, Nigerians knows who Kenyans are , they steal other people's pics and claims it.
we Nigerians and other progressive Africans knows that the only developed part of Kenyans cities are the less than 2% of its land mass which is the CBD and that is why they keep recycling the same CBDs pics over and over again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:33am On Nov 26, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Leaders are so lucky that people like you dont think!

You misunderstood me.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 9:37am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

Gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17
Do we make our neighbor so much jealous that he cant afford to appreciate natural things... I would have assumed it if it was about maybe Nairobi or any other city or town that is man made. But surely natural things from God makes an individual so bitter and pained to such an extent. The Magufuli people need our prayers, their hate for us in undeniably deeper than i thought.

The guy is extremely jealous, he can even join Al-shabaab just to harm us... you can even notice how he together with Nigerians are amused when they talk about Al-shabaabs terrorising Kenyans
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:38am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

Gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17
Do we make our neighbor so much jealous that he cant afford to appreciate natural things... I would have assumed it if it was about maybe Nairobi or any other city or town that is man made. But surely natural things from God makes an individual so bitter and pained to such an extent. The Magufuli people need our prayers, their hate for us in undeniably deeper than i thought.
Don't try to shift things around.Who said we don't appreciate your God given natural assets? Friend, I am against lies! Kenya is beautiful.Yes. And so as other nations.But is not the most beautiful in Africa or in the world.The same God who gave you those assets is the same God who hates lies!
Yes us Magufulis need your prayers,we need prayers to withstand your lies and deceptive habits.
We don't hate you.But we hate your pride,we hate your lies,your 'all must be mine' attitude. We hate your tribalism,your greedy.Tanzanians need prayers.Yes we do.Prayers to help us leave with a headstrong neighbour.,a neighbor who is not ashamed to claim what is not his!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:39am On Nov 26, 2018
Jonraid:
Ruto? Oh give me a break! A tree log would lead us to prosperity than that man!I hope the 'power brokers' take it from him! He just doesn't cut it for me,but it's called preferences. Good-luck with your guy!

Ruto has the numbers,energy and is fully on board with V 2030; he already has a working relationship with our policy makers and implementors which in the real world counts for much.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:44am On Nov 26, 2018
Justnotyou:


He was being sarcastic to Mudavadis proclaimed fame of being a great economist because of his one shot success, he just provided that example to show just because it's done doesn't necessarily mean it was his doing.

I'm noticing some divisive tactics at play from allies to in between Kenyans themselves, guess it's all fun but I hope you all don't fall prey to this.

Thanks! You got it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:50am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

But Nigerians ain't seeing anything positive bro.... This is what they are saying about your opinion.






Fool, I am sure few of you guys on nairaland are the only patriotic Kenyans

this what your fellow reasonable Kenyans are saying about your stupid country

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:51am On Nov 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
Don't try to shift things around.Who said we don't want God given natural assets? Friend, I am against lies! Kenya is beautiful.Yes. And so as other nations.But is not the most beautiful in Africa or in the world.The same God who gave you those assets is the same God who hates lies!
Yes us Magufulis need your prayers,we need prayers to withstand your lies and deceptive habits.
We don't hate you.But we hate your pride,we hate your lies,your 'all must be mine' attitude. We hate your tribalism,your greedy.Tanzanians need prayers.Yes we do.Prayers to help us leave with a headstrong neighbour.,a neighbor who is not ashamed to claim what is not his!
The only reason you are on this thread is because your desire to discredit Kenya is on another level.... You have been here abusing us since day, 1, your intentions obviously is due to extreme jealousy. The author and owner of the thread is a Nigerian, the participants came at their own volition. You can never stop an idea whose time has come, the idea of a Kenyan development is here and not your badmouthing hatefull thoughts can derail it.
More positive comments by Nigerians
christejames:

Congratulations to Kenya for this milestone attained. I was just thinking how our leaders have pressed the retrogressive button on this country with their nonchalant attitude while watching the launching of this Standard Gauge Railway by Kenyatta which was streamed live on Facebook by CGTN yesterday .
boronkot:

they even beat you in terms of quality ,kenya is not resource depandant like nigeria with oil, their economy is diverse infact the largest non resource based economy in africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:53am On Nov 26, 2018
rvp20183:
It okay for someone like you with an inquisitive mind to question everything - including mainstream knowledge - origin of bantus/hiv/moon landing/jewish conspiracy - but if you're a leader facing an epidemic - you want to learn to listen to experts and really focus on stopping the spread of the new disease. Whatever HIV is or is not - it's killing people upto now - and it started somewhere in mid 80s. The first people to really get hit were sex workers, gays and guys injecting themselves drugs - those are enough facts to stop the disease - you already knows it spread through bodily fluids (blood, semen, etc) - and that is what likes of Cuba with a great public health care did. That is what Museveni did in Uganda to reverse the course of the disease that by 1990 had infected more than 30% of Uganda.

Now for someone like Mbeki to act like you in 2000s in a serious matter like HIV/AIDS was really unfortunate, lots of south africans had to die, millions if i am not wrong, for him to get the point, lifespan reduce to 40s, and now they really get it - and are doing what Uganda was doing in 1990s - in 2018. They are doing whatever they can to stop the spread of disease and alleviate the sufferings...as scientist grapple with it.

[b]I am not a virologist so I don't want to get into long debate on a obviously technical area we are all ill-equiped. T[/b]hose debates should be held in LANCET or Scientific forums. Mbeki should never have been a leader.


I'm not a virologist either but there are so many anomalies about HIV/AIDS to believe in the conventional wisdom I'll only say what I said to TayserMahiri :
I've heard all those theories including 'dry sex' and this one before:if you honestly believe the official story and think this virus somehow jumped from a slaughtered monkey infected with simian AIDS and mutated to HIV its ok.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:54am On Nov 26, 2018
Just not a fan of him! He has high chances of being the President but my prayers is that he falls in his presidential quest!
kikuyu1:


Ruto has the numbers,energy and is fully on board with V 2030; he already has a working relationship with our policy makers and implementors which in the real world counts for much.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:57am On Nov 26, 2018
Enjoy Kenyans Country side.. Kiambu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz37rS87Eo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 10:05am On Nov 26, 2018
Blissful

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 10:08am On Nov 26, 2018
CBD day/night

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:15am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

The only reason you are on this thread is because your desire to discredit Kenya is on another level.... You have been here abusing us since day, 1, your intentions obviously is due to extreme jealousy. The author and owner of the thread is a Nigerian, the participants came at their own volition. You can never stop an idea whose time has come, the idea of a Kenyan development is here and not your badmouthing hatefull thoughts can derail it.
More positive comments by Nigerians


how dare you talk to Kenyans lies buster like that?
This what BBC has to has to say about your stupid diesel SGR while Ethiopia SGR is electrify

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:22am On Nov 26, 2018
USIU University Kenya

Can you spot our Nigerian brodas? grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:24am On Nov 26, 2018
68816419:


Fool, I am sure few of you guys on nairaland are the only patriotic Kenyans

this what your fellow reasonable Kenyans are saying about your stupid country
Every body has an opinion, even the most advanced American democracy system has its critics, Trump is an example of a very opinionated negative comments but does that mean America is not progressed ... I noticed Nigerians have an affinity to notice 1 negative comment out of 1000 positive comments. I cant blame you...
More opinions of positive national's across Africa..
Drabeey:
good one Kenyans
Naija na una baba sha ooo

We av ds on ground already.... All thanks to PMB

drabeey was HERE
vioment:
Am I looking at south africa or kenya? Na wa for talking Nigeria. No dedicated plan.
Sh** I'm getting myself a Kenyan visa real soon kiss

ollah1:


Nigeria is the worst country on Earth and it's not an understatement. Other African countries are moving forward while Nigeria is going the other way round. It's really annoying
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:30am On Nov 26, 2018
Yes every disease has anomalies - nearly every thing we know we really don't know for sure - that is why scientist generally work with %. When you're neither a virologist or an epidemiologist - and you're Mbeki - then it height of irresponsibility to questions HIV/AIDS when people are dying. By 1980s - we already knew enough about HIV to stop it - we didn't stop until people starting dying in so much numbers with so much pain - we realize we needed to apply common sense. HIV/AIDS is obviously spread through bodily fluid (the amount, the intensity, the risk factors are details including genetics) - not air like Avian Flu - and people need to do ABCS - Abstain - Be Faithful - and use condom - don't share syringes - cirmcumsize males to harden their skin & reduce their exposure- that is all Mbeki needed to tell South Africa.

kikuyu1:

I'm not a virologist either but there are so many anomalies about HIV/AIDS to believe in the conventional wisdom I'll only say what I said to TayserMahiri :

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:33am On Nov 26, 2018
samsobo24:
I expected something reasonable from you but I was disappointed by you quoting some Nigerians opinion.

Are you saying the whole Kenyan citizens are satisfied with the mass poverty in kenya
I will let your fellow Nigerians give you an answer...
salford:
haha. And Nigerians are busy courting GE for the continous delievery of a mediocre rail system.Yet, no leadway with GE since 2010.
This train station fine pass manchester picadilly and lota of other train stations in Europe.
suyamasta:
Kenya is moving forward, Naija na mouth we just d make no action
Hati13:

Hi PissedYagami, your country Kenya is definitely beautiful, not just only from the photos posted, but I've also heard about it from a friend and read about it from tourists on the internet. Our country is also very beautiful. You better do something, because it's a matter of time before Ethiopia become one of the world most tourist destination countrysmileycheesy. For me it is the most beautiful place in the world(I'm not been biased). If I had a chance, I would love to visit your country, even if it's going to take me to travel by foot(but too bad I've no the intention to breathe anymoresad).
BedLam:
Girma! smiley
Kenya is so lovely. Nairobi weather is so nice.
streetwise2015:
@Bedlam Pls how much did it cost you to get the Visa and what is the Process like? How much is the Flight ticket?...Await ur response..Thanks
austino677:
Is Kenya colder than Nigeria? Looks beautiful though
BedLam:
The City is very much green. I don't think any Nigerian City can compete with it even in terms of greenery.
BedLam:
My deductions...Nairobi has more Malls than the whole of Nigeria. I kid you not! The night life here is amazing! There are stores and restaurants that open 24/7. You can get anything you want.

claremont:
Lovely thread OP. I have visited Kenya a few times and loved every minute of my time there. Infact, I consider myself more Kenyan than Nigerian because I not only lived there on and off for a couple of months, but I also dated a cute little Kenyan lady at some point. I spent most of my time in Kenya up North in the rural suburbs like Nanyuki and Isiolo due to the nature of my job then, I really enjoyed living in the remote towns. Kenya is an amazing country where things actually work as the should, it will take Nigeria a good few years to get to the point Kenya is at the moment. The respect they have for their wildlife alone is something Nigerians should emulate. You need to try their food i.e. Ugali + vegetables + barbecue meat/fish. This thread fills me with nostalgic memories. grin
BedLam:
You are right! Some sort of decency you can't see in Nigeria. Imagine a Safari park in the middle of the City!
That's why their tourism is booming. Nairobi Airport is more than 3 times bigger than MMIA. So much life is here.
BedLam:
you have everything that's beautiful here. The west lands, parklands and Karen are something Lagos can't compete with. I might get other pic of the city tomorrow and 26. Hang on!
BedLam:
laugh one kee me!


You have a lot to do in Nairobi than in Lagos. Their airport is busy 24/7 and it's 3 times bigger than the one in Lagos. There's a reason for that. Tourism is a very big business here. Do you even have a museum in Lagos ?
suyamasta:
Kenya is moving forward, Naija na mouth we just d make no action
seunny4lif:
Buhari come and see your mate o oooh
Giant of Africa my left ball.
Nigeria is the worst country in Africa
See terminal even dey beautiful pass our MMIA shocked shocked

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:39am On Nov 26, 2018
Kur17:
CBD day/night
I love the fact that you keep recycling same pics since from page one till now, it seems you guys are very proud of what your colonial masters built for you,that is developing a CBD for low IQ guys.hahaha
bellow is the reality on ground .

According to Charles Karisa, a lecturer at the Department of Urban and Regional Planning, at the University of Nairobi, the taking over of the CBD has several explanations.
"Initially, the CBD was strictly meant for European and Asian traders. Natives had no place. But natives took charge following an exodus of European and Asian businessmen to satellites like Muthaiga, Karen, Runda and Westlands," Karisa says.
Natives then started filtering into the CBD and took over shops and office spaces to set up businesses, which thrive to date.
Karisa, also an architect, says some buildings were renovated and redesigned to suit their new clientele. An example is Kipande House, which was used by the colonial government to issue national identity cards and now hosts the Kenya Commercial Bank.
The renovation increased the value and rent of the buildings and this led to the emergence of numerous stalls.
"Rent of property became too high after buildings were renovated. Therefore, landlords resolved to subdivide into stalls for more locals to afford," Karisa says.
Also, the influx of Somali businessmen promoted the bazaar concept, which is a core feature of the Islamic economy.
Take the case of Jamia Mall that has several stalls under one roof. Such establishments are transforming the face of the CBD.
According to Karisa, the ownership, occupation and planning of the CBD has come a long way since the inaugural construction of the railway in early 1900s.
The first plan was a temporary private one that dated back to 1906 for a railway depot as it sought to mainly address European and Asian low cadre workers and support staff.
The African CBD
The Asians pitched camp at areas around the present day Jamia Mosque, Biashara Street, Tom Mboya Street, Accra Road and River Road.
Europeans took over Kenyatta Avenue, Moi Avenue, Harry Thuku Road and the Museum Hill roundabout as their business area.
"Railway quarters in Muthurwa and Landi Mawe were for low cadre European and Asian railway workers while natives lived in Kariokor and Shauri Moyo," Karisa says.
However, the colonial government came up with a settler plan in 1927 that abolished racial segregation of the CBD, but introduced class segregation.
Consequently, the high-income areas where properties were of lucrative value were a preserve of whites and some middle class Asian families.
"Europeans controlled 90 per cent of the CBD while Asians and native Africans shared the paltry ten per cent," Karisa says.
There was another master plan for a colonial capital in 1948 that sought to divide the CBD into functional zones that were either high density or low density. High-density areas allowed high-rise buildings of up to ten floors while low-density areas accommodated five floors.
Koinange, Banda, Tom Mboya, Haille Selassie and Uhuru Highway were high-density zones and mainly occupied by Europeans.
Asians dominated the present day Banda Street and University way while natives pitched camp at Tom Mboya Street, a low-density area.
"It is for the same reasons that River Road later acquired the name ‘the African CBD’," says Karisa.
Then in 1973, the metropolitan road strategy sought to address problems facing the local populace in Nairobi and also entailed a framework for future growth and proposed satellites like Westlands, Athi River and Mavoko.
But the tactics of exclusion in the CBD have been advanced by the efforts to discourage informal trade, with the City Council consigning hawkers to designated markets like Muthurwa and Gikomba.
Kenyans of Africa descent have, therefore, transformed hawking into the ubiquitous stalls culture, and this keeps the council askaris off them.
While order and neatness is important in the CBD, the African CBD has proved that for a populated city like Nairobi, there needs to be a little piece of the cake for everyone, and informal and small-scale trade are the way to go
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:41am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenya current budget 2018/2019 national budget is 3.1 trillion Kshs which roughly translate to 31B - Counties budget is my estimate (but I can find you data if you insist).
Kenya 2017/2018(last year) - 26B dollars.
Kenya 2016/2017 was 23B dollars.

Nigeria meager yet historic federal budget this yr (2018/2019) is 23B dollars!!!!.

The 36 states have a largely kamikaze budget of 17-18B dollars this year - total Nigeria state+federal budget is therefore around 40B dollars.

forgiveness:


Can you show me the source you got $35b dollars for 2017 budget for both Kenya's National and counties? grin

Was Kenya's 2017 budget up to $31b dollars?

Show me now before I begin to disgrace you like I use to. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:43am On Nov 26, 2018
Strathmore University, Kenya

The best in law having dethroned UON

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:57am On Nov 26, 2018
Impressive. We need to focus on improving quality - now that we have sorted access to higher education now - that mean massive investment in our current universities. No need to expand them anymore.
Jonraid:
Strathmore University, Kenya

The best in law having dethroned UON
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:58am On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:
We have been arguing for over 2,500 pages and seems there is no end. I want to show the main reason why Kenyans have been fiercely defending the integrity of its development record. The past 2 decades has been euphoric to Kenyans in matters development and its fruits has been a joy to behold. Kenya rivaled only by Ethiopia in infrastructure development in Africa are the key architects of a booming craze in expanding its infrastructure in a scale only witnessed in the 90's by Asian tigers. In less than 2 decades they have built massive life changing developments to its own citizens in the shortest period leaving analysts wondering what another 2 decades or less is in store for their citizens.
Before and after pictures of massive road project in Kenya done...


How many kilometres of roads did Kenya do in a year?

How many kilometres of railway, monorail, light rail etc did Kenya government complete or has almost completed in the last 5 years?

How many international airport terminals has Kenya built in the last 5 -8 years?

My guy, we are not talking about chin chin projects here. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:10am On Nov 26, 2018
Jonraid:
Devolution didn't get 2b! Do your math again!


Still chin chin money. grin. $3.6b dollars out of $30b. grin

All the whole Kenya shared $30b dollars. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 11:16am On Nov 26, 2018
68816419:

I love the fact that you keep recycling same pics since from page one till now, it seems you guys are very proud of what your colonial masters built for you,that is developing a CBD for low IQ guys.hahaha
bellow is the reality on ground .

According to Charles Karisa, a lecturer at the Department of Urban and Regional Planning, at the University of Nairobi, the taking over of the CBD has several explanations.
"Initially, the CBD was strictly meant for European and Asian traders. Natives had no place. But natives took charge following an exodus of European and Asian businessmen to satellites like Muthaiga, Karen, Runda and Westlands," Karisa says.
Natives then started filtering into the CBD and took over shops and office spaces to set up businesses, which thrive to date.
Karisa, also an architect, says some buildings were renovated and redesigned to suit their new clientele. An example is Kipande House, which was used by the colonial government to issue national identity cards and now hosts the Kenya Commercial Bank.
The renovation increased the value and rent of the buildings and this led to the emergence of numerous stalls.
"Rent of property became too high after buildings were renovated. Therefore, landlords resolved to subdivide into stalls for more locals to afford," Karisa says.
Also, the influx of Somali businessmen promoted the bazaar concept, which is a core feature of the Islamic economy.
Take the case of Jamia Mall that has several stalls under one roof. Such establishments are transforming the face of the CBD.
According to Karisa, the ownership, occupation and planning of the CBD has come a long way since the inaugural construction of the railway in early 1900s.
The first plan was a temporary private one that dated back to 1906 for a railway depot as it sought to mainly address European and Asian low cadre workers and support staff.
The African CBD
The Asians pitched camp at areas around the present day Jamia Mosque, Biashara Street, Tom Mboya Street, Accra Road and River Road.
Europeans took over Kenyatta Avenue, Moi Avenue, Harry Thuku Road and the Museum Hill roundabout as their business area.
"Railway quarters in Muthurwa and Landi Mawe were for low cadre European and Asian railway workers while natives lived in Kariokor and Shauri Moyo," Karisa says.
However, the colonial government came up with a settler plan in 1927 that abolished racial segregation of the CBD, but introduced class segregation.
Consequently, the high-income areas where properties were of lucrative value were a preserve of whites and some middle class Asian families.
"Europeans controlled 90 per cent of the CBD while Asians and native Africans shared the paltry ten per cent," Karisa says.
There was another master plan for a colonial capital in 1948 that sought to divide the CBD into functional zones that were either high density or low density. High-density areas allowed high-rise buildings of up to ten floors while low-density areas accommodated five floors.
Koinange, Banda, Tom Mboya, Haille Selassie and Uhuru Highway were high-density zones and mainly occupied by Europeans.
Asians dominated the present day Banda Street and University way while natives pitched camp at Tom Mboya Street, a low-density area.
"It is for the same reasons that River Road later acquired the name ‘the African CBD’," says Karisa.
Then in 1973, the metropolitan road strategy sought to address problems facing the local populace in Nairobi and also entailed a framework for future growth and proposed satellites like Westlands, Athi River and Mavoko.
But the tactics of exclusion in the CBD have been advanced by the efforts to discourage informal trade, with the City Council consigning hawkers to designated markets like Muthurwa and Gikomba.
Kenyans of Africa descent have, therefore, transformed hawking into the ubiquitous stalls culture, and this keeps the council askaris off them.
While order and neatness is important in the CBD, the African CBD has proved that for a populated city like Nairobi, there needs to be a little piece of the cake for everyone, and informal and small-scale trade are the way to go

What do you mean by reality on the ground? Nairobi's history??

We know you have nothing to show from your country apart from population...

You think Europeans left Kenya the way it is....

They left us with a GDP per capita of $100

In 1963 we had a GDP of $926 million

With a life expectancy of only 48years

Upperhill was a coffee plantation...this how it looked like...

The first picture is where KICC Tower was later build

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:31am On Nov 26, 2018
Sharp brains are everything for a nation,for a people to prosper! There will be no more Universities certified now,the government is now going technical.We must balance both soft and hard skills!

It's time for improving our technical capacity! Our partnership with Germany will with no doubt improve our capacity to churn out very skilled students in various technical courses!https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2017/01/germany-support-kenyas-technical-training-institutions/


rvp20183:
Impressive. We need to focus on improving quality - now that we have sorted access to higher education now - that mean massive investment in our current universities. No need to expand them anymore.

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