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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:23pm On Nov 26, 2018
Kikuyu1 - African Student Airlift programme - gave us the crucial head-start thanks to Tom Mboya. Mboya was so brilliant & powerful they had to enact a bill in parliament to introduce 35yr age limit so he couldn't ran PORK - and he eventually fell to assasin bullet.
[img]https://nyakiyanyakiyaism.files./2015/04/1381889_777375955625193_1804732298_n.jpg[/img]

In April 1959 Kenyan trade unionist Tom Mboya came to the United States for a six week tour organized by the American Committee on Africa. Mboya gave speeches on college and university campuses. In total he spoke at nearly 100 meetings. On campuses where he spoke he met with the president or other officials and asked for scholarships for African students. At the end of the tour Mboya had promises for over 40 scholarships. Shortly after Mboya returned to Kenya the African American Students Foundation (AASF) was established to raise money to bring the students to the United States. The AASF raised an initial $39,000 and the first 81 students arrived in September 1959. Baseball star Jackie Robinson and performers Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier led the initial fundraising. There was a two day orientation program for the initial 81 students. In 1960 the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation gave $100,000 to AASF. As a result in 1960 three planes were chartered bringing 222 students from east and central Africa. In all over 770 students from 10 East African countries, 85 percent from Kenya, came to the United States and most returned to civil servant positions after independence. AASF was founded by William X. Scheinman who served on the board. Frank Montero and Ted Kheel were also on the board of AASF. Cora Weiss was Executive Director and student adviser. AASF sponsoring organizations included the American Committee on Africa and the Phelps Stokes Fund. Students included Wangari Maathai who later became the first African women Nobel Peace laureate. Barack Obama Sr, father of 44th President of the United States, did not come on one of the planes charted by the African American Students Foundation but did receive financial support from the foundation once he was in the U.S. See Airlift to America: How Barack Obama, Sr., John F. Kennedy, Tom Mboya, and 800 East African Students Changed Their World and Ours by Tom Shachtman.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:37pm On Nov 26, 2018
68816419:

how dare you talk to Kenyans lies buster like that?
This what BBC has to has to say about your stupid diesel SGR while Ethiopia SGR is electrify

What does the BBC say about afonja SGR? Humor us... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:56pm On Nov 26, 2018
rvp20183:
For argument sake - let say it's 28.9B (round off to 29B) - against yours 25B - that is entirely based on Oil (with unrealistic projections smiley).


Now you are talking. Compare Nigeria's $70b budget for both Federal and state governments with Kenya's $29b dollars for both central and 47 counties. Then you can see Kenya is below the pecking order. grin

I have proven beyond reasonable doubt with concrete, genuine and reliable source that Nigeria's Service sector is 3- 4 times of Kenya's service sector. No need for unecessary perambulating.

If you now add Nigeria's industrial and Agricultural sector, Nigeria budget is more realistic than that of Kenya's. grin

Go and ask why your budget was slashed. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:02pm On Nov 26, 2018
rvp20183:
When was the slashing done? - Mps had tried to slash the budget but it's vetoed by the president. Kenya budget this year is 31B dollars.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Kenya-releases-eye-popping-USD31-billion-budget/2560-4605770-g83ou1z/index.html

Where did you see veto in that article? Kenya's budget was slashed. EOD grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:11pm On Nov 26, 2018
forgiveness:



Now you are talking. Compare Nigeria's $70b budget for both Federal and state governments with Kenya's $29b dollars for both central and 47 counties. Then you can see Kenya is below the pecking order. grin

I have proven beyond reasonable doubt with concrete, genuine and reliable source that Nigeria's Service sector is 3- 4 times of Kenya's service sector. No need for unecessary perambulating.

If you now add Nigeria's industrial and Agricultural sector, Nigeria budget is more realistic than that of Kenya's. grin

Go and ask why your budget was slashed. grin

Nigeria's budget is not $70 billion. Stupid.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:23pm On Nov 26, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Nigeria's budget is not $70 billion. Stupid.


Kkkkkkkk! E pain am.


You people lied your counties had seperate budgets apart from the $29b dollars budget but I bursted your lies but on the other hand our total budget from both the federal and state governments have been verified to be approximately $70b dollars. But you are here crying blue murder. Ndo! Bhuhahahaha! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 5:30pm On Nov 26, 2018
forgiveness:


How many international airport terminals has Kenya built in the last 5 -8 years?
ISIOLO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT 2013-2017
Isiolo International Airport Facts & Figures

Current capacity up to 125,000 passengers per year
4,500 square metre passenger terminal
5,000 square metre floor area
Sits on 330 hectares; 3,501 feet above sea level
Its runway is 2.5 km long
KISUMU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT 2012-2016 Expansion

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:32pm On Nov 26, 2018
forgiveness:



Kkkkkkkk! E pain am.


You people lied your counties had seperate budgets apart from the $29b dollars budget but I bursted your lies but on the other hand our total budget from both the federal and state governments have been verified to be approximately $70b dollars. But you are here crying blue murder. Ndo! Bhuhahahaha! grin

Blah blah blah! I simply corrected you, Nigeria's budget is not $70 billion. Stop lying.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:34pm On Nov 26, 2018
This guy is loosing it.He says it's 40-45 then he again says 50,yet again he says it's 70.The meager revenues you collect can't allow you to have such a budget!
forgiveness:



Now you are talking. Compare Nigeria's $70b budget for both Federal and state governments with Kenya's $29b dollars for both central and 47 counties. Then you can see Kenya is below the pecking order. grin

I have proven beyond reasonable doubt with concrete, genuine and reliable source that Nigeria's Service sector is 3- 4 times of Kenya's service sector. No need for unecessary perambulating.

If you now add Nigeria's industrial and Agricultural sector, Nigeria budget is more realistic than that of Kenya's. grin

Go and ask why your budget was slashed. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:39pm On Nov 26, 2018
NairobiWalker:



Blah blah blah! I simply corrected you, Nigeria's budget is not $70 billion. Stop lying.

That fool is all over the place just trying to win, irregardless of the nature of the argument. Then goes ahead to congratulate himself for absolutely nothing. It's funny and sad at the same time. Let him wallow in his personal enigma, just clap for him after.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:41pm On Nov 26, 2018
South Africa

revenues: $92.38 billion
expenditures: $103.3 billion (2017 est.)

Angola

revenues: $35.59 billion
expenditures: $44.64 billion (2017 est.)

Egypt

revenues: $37.63 billion
expenditures: $58.55 billion (2017 est.)

Algeria

revenues: $52.08 billion
expenditures: $70.74 billion (2017 est

Kenya

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)

Ethiopia

revenues: $12.11 billion
expenditures: $14.63 billion (2017 est.)

Nigeria

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)

But Nigeria's budget is 70b. Give us a break!

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:42pm On Nov 26, 2018
Slowly your 2018 unrealistic budgets are at best ..both Federal & States are 40B compared to Kenya national & state realistic budget of 33-35B.You cannot finance both state and federal budget because they are just kamikaze acts by your gov.As a reminder to get to Kenya level you need total budget 4 times our.To get to South Africa you federal budget alone need to be 120B dollars.Dont wonder why Nigeria is poor..it's in that miniature budget funded by Oil and nothing more.
forgiveness:



Now you are talking. Compare Nigeria's $70b budget for both Federal and state governments with Kenya's $29b dollars for both central and 47 counties. Then you can see Kenya is below the pecking order. grin

I have proven beyond reasonable doubt with concrete, genuine and reliable source that Nigeria's Service sector is 3- 4 times of Kenya's service sector. No need for unecessary perambulating.

If you now add Nigeria's industrial and Agricultural sector, Nigeria budget is more realistic than that of Kenya's. grin

Go and ask why your budget was slashed. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 5:44pm On Nov 26, 2018
gallivant:


That fool is all over the place just trying to win, irregardless of the nature of the argument. Then goes ahead to congratulate himself for absolutely nothing. It's funny and sad at the same time. Let him wallow in his personal enigma, just clap for him after.
gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17
Stop debating him... He asked for Kenyans developmental infrastructure record and i provided. I challenged him to provide the same together with a link and he has become evasive. DON'T DEBATE HIM UNTIL HE PROVIDES FACTS ACCOMPANIED WITH LINKS FOR VERIFICATION.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:49pm On Nov 26, 2018
This guy was a legend! Here is him sharing the podium with the great Martin Luther King Jnr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0B60s5NiJw
rvp20183:
Kikuyu1 - African Student Airlift programme - gave us the crucial head-start thanks to Tom Mboya. Mboya was so brilliant & powerful they had to enact a bill in parliament to introduce 35yr age limit so he couldn't ran PORK - and he eventually fell to assasin bullet.
[img]https://nyakiyanyakiyaism.files./2015/04/1381889_777375955625193_1804732298_n.jpg[/img]

In April 1959 Kenyan trade unionist Tom Mboya came to the United States for a six week tour organized by the American Committee on Africa. Mboya gave speeches on college and university campuses. In total he spoke at nearly 100 meetings. On campuses where he spoke he met with the president or other officials and asked for scholarships for African students. At the end of the tour Mboya had promises for over 40 scholarships. Shortly after Mboya returned to Kenya the African American Students Foundation (AASF) was established to raise money to bring the students to the United States. The AASF raised an initial $39,000 and the first 81 students arrived in September 1959. Baseball star Jackie Robinson and performers Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier led the initial fundraising. There was a two day orientation program for the initial 81 students. In 1960 the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation gave $100,000 to AASF. As a result in 1960 three planes were chartered bringing 222 students from east and central Africa. In all over 770 students from 10 East African countries, 85 percent from Kenya, came to the United States and most returned to civil servant positions after independence. AASF was founded by William X. Scheinman who served on the board. Frank Montero and Ted Kheel were also on the board of AASF. Cora Weiss was Executive Director and student adviser. AASF sponsoring organizations included the American Committee on Africa and the Phelps Stokes Fund. Students included Wangari Maathai who later became the first African women Nobel Peace laureate. Barack Obama Sr, father of 44th President of the United States, did not come on one of the planes charted by the African American Students Foundation but did receive financial support from the foundation once he was in the U.S. See Airlift to America: How Barack Obama, Sr., John F. Kennedy, Tom Mboya, and 800 East African Students Changed Their World and Ours by Tom Shachtman.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 5:55pm On Nov 26, 2018
Jonraid:
South Africa

Kenya

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)

Nigeria

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)

But Nigeria's budget is 70b. Give us a break!


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html
I told you Nigeria's budget is decorated on paper but in reality it doesnt translate on the ground for its citizen. Big talk and no action
Nigerians reaction to Nigeria's "budget"
ollah1:


Nigeria is the worst country on Earth and it's not an understatement. Other African countries are moving forward while Nigeria is going the other way round. It's really annoying
autolearner:
Sad that Nigeria does nothing but service Political Office Holders and Their Families with our recurrent budgets.

Not Like These countries have two heads.
boronkot:

they even beat you in terms of quality ,kenya is not resource depandant like nigeria with oil, their economy is diverse infact the largest non resource based economy in africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:07pm On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar

So you were in Nairaland since 2009? I like it how you use their posts to beat them in this thread!
Kenyanstar:

I told you Nigeria's budget is decorated on paper but in reality it doesnt translate on the ground for its citizen. Big talk and no action
Nigerians reaction to Nigeria's "budget"


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:10pm On Nov 26, 2018
JF Kennedy,Tom Mboya &Martin Luther jnr were so ahead of their time they fell to assassin's bullet but their legacy endures.Tom Mboya by 30 was already a colossus - his opponents scrambled a law to bar young people from leadership.You can imagine someone who counted JFk Kennedy the powerful and loved US president as a friend..his brilliance, eloqounces and charisma was Obamasque in 1950s.And yet he was mostly self taught and never attended college.
Jonraid:
This guy was a legend! Here is him sharing the podium with the great Martin Luther King Jnr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0B60s5NiJw

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:22pm On Nov 26, 2018
I sometimes wonder how things would have been if he could have been a president or just alive! It is sad that we lost brilliant people,Robert Ouko and Pio Gama Pinto were other trailblazers victims of political elimination! The list is long though!
rvp20182:
JF Kennedy,Tom Mboya &Martin Luther jnr were so ahead of their time they fell to assassin's bullet but their legacy endures.Tom Mboya by 30 was already a colossus - his opponents scrambled a law to bar young people from leadership.You can imagine someone who counted JFk Kennedy the powerful and loved US president as a friend..his brilliance, eloqounces and charisma was Obamasque in 1950s.And yet he was mostly self taught and never attended college.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:22pm On Nov 26, 2018
Jonraid:
Kenyanstar

So you were in Nairaland since 2009? I like it how you use their posts to beat them in this thread!
grin grin grin I know them more than they even know themselves. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:25pm On Nov 26, 2018
Please sometimes you make shocking comparison..Ouko or Pio Gama cannot wash Tom Mboya hands.The were just all victim of political assisaniation..Maybe only Mwai Kibaki could match Mboya brilliance but he had zero charisma.Kenya is ahead of say many countries thanks to the brilliance of Mboya and Kibaki.
Jonraid:
I sometimes wonder how things would have been if he could have been a president or just alive! It is sad that we lost brilliant people,Robert Ouko and Pio Gama Pinto were other trailblazers victims of political elimination! The list is long though!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:26pm On Nov 26, 2018
When the governor of Mombasa called up the governor of Nairobi at his office at CITY HALL!

In Nigeria,this two men would probably be old at their sixties!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2018
Pio Gama Pinto attracted me because of his Pan Africanism and passion for the well being of Kenyans and Africans,Robert Ouko was one of the learned Kenyan fellas back then.Of course,they both don't match Mboya's legacy,demeanour,charm and wisdom but they had their own place in our history! Significant they were that I learnt of them in primary's social studies texts! And all these men were victims of political assassination!
rvp20182:
Please sometimes you make shocking comparison..Ouko or Pio Gama cannot wash Tom Mboya.The were just all victim of political assisaniation..Maybe Mwai Kibaki could match Mboya Brilliance.Kenya is ahead of say many countries thanks to brilliance of Mboya and Kibaki.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:43pm On Nov 26, 2018
Two drug dealers but indeed Kenya has so many young leaders.Nigeria young leadership has no chance.The old men who looted Nigeria dry control the pursue strings.
Jonraid:
When the governor of Mombasa called up the governor of Nairobi at his office at CITY HALL!

In Nigeria,this two men would probably be old at their sixties!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:47pm On Nov 26, 2018
mtisTheQubit:

So true..i pray we get someone sober enough to continue what has been started..

True bro.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:48pm On Nov 26, 2018
Pio like many Goans.. Indian Christian..we're good people.You need to take your initiative to learn beyond what you read.Dont compare Tom Mboya..until you find a country passing a law to ban a young man from running..Mboya was assinated at 39 yrs ..most countries ban old men who can't beaten.Spend time on YouTube and learn more about Mboya.Yes of Mwai Kibaki and his IQ was another level but sadly he was past his prime when he became President.Kibaki or Mboya at their prime were being featured by The Times for their brilliance and leadership.
Jonraid:
Pio Gama Pinto attracted me because of his Pan Africanism and passion for the well being of Kenyans and Africans,Robert Ouko was one of the learned Kenyan fellas back then.Of course,they both don't match Mboya's legacy,demeanour,charm and wisdom but they had their own place in our history! Significant they were that I learnt of them in primary's social studies texts! And all these men were victims of political assassination!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:49pm On Nov 26, 2018
rvp20183:
Kikuyu1 - African Student Airlift programme - gave us the crucial head-start thanks to Tom Mboya. Mboya was so brilliant & powerful they had to enact a bill in parliament to introduce 35yr age limit so he couldn't ran PORK - and he eventually fell to assasin bullet.
[img]https://nyakiyanyakiyaism.files./2015/04/1381889_777375955625193_1804732298_n.jpg[/img]

In April 1959 Kenyan trade unionist Tom Mboya came to the United States for a six week tour organized by the American Committee on Africa. Mboya gave speeches on college and university campuses. In total he spoke at nearly 100 meetings. On campuses where he spoke he met with the president or other officials and asked for scholarships for African students. At the end of the tour Mboya had promises for over 40 scholarships. Shortly after Mboya returned to Kenya the African American Students Foundation (AASF) was established to raise money to bring the students to the United States. The AASF raised an initial $39,000 and the first 81 students arrived in September 1959. Baseball star Jackie Robinson and performers Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier led the initial fundraising. There was a two day orientation program for the initial 81 students. In 1960 the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation gave $100,000 to AASF. As a result in 1960 three planes were chartered bringing 222 students from east and central Africa. In all over 770 students from 10 East African countries, 85 percent from Kenya, came to the United States and most returned to civil servant positions after independence. AASF was founded by William X. Scheinman who served on the board. Frank Montero and Ted Kheel were also on the board of AASF. Cora Weiss was Executive Director and student adviser. AASF sponsoring organizations included the American Committee on Africa and the Phelps Stokes Fund. Students included Wangari Maathai who later became the first African women Nobel Peace laureate. Barack Obama Sr, father of 44th President of the United States, did not come on one of the planes charted by the African American Students Foundation but did receive financial support from the foundation once he was in the U.S. See Airlift to America: How Barack Obama, Sr., John F. Kennedy, Tom Mboya, and 800 East African Students Changed Their World and Ours by Tom Shachtman.

This late political icon will forever remain my role model.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 6:52pm On Nov 26, 2018
Governor of Nairobi.. gringringrin. Is Nairobi not supposed to be an administrative capital.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:53pm On Nov 26, 2018
Their next president to be would still be an old man.Thank God the drug menace isn't so rife now,there were at times when drugs usage especially at the Coast was the debate of the town! With the arrest of the Akasha brothers and suppression of figures like Haron Mwau both politically and economically,things are better!
rvp20182:
Two drug dealers but indeed Kenya has so many young leaders.Nigeria young leadership has no chance.The old men who looted Nigeria dry control the pursue strings.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:53pm On Nov 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

gallivant, jonraid, rvp20182, NairobiWalker, tlann, Kikuyu1, mtisTheQubit, Kur17
Stop debating him... He asked for Kenyans developmental infrastructure record and i provided. I challenged him to provide the same together with a link and he has become evasive. DON'T DEBATE HIM UNTIL HE PROVIDES FACTS ACCOMPANIED WITH LINKS FOR VERIFICATION.
we should assume him like we assumed the harare guy ( .........this is pictures are not for nairobi they are pictures for harare.....) grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:54pm On Nov 26, 2018
Nairobi has a Governor.The state does not control it!
theenchanter:
Governor of Nairobi.. gringringrin. Is Nairobi not supposed to be an administrative capital.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:10pm On Nov 26, 2018
Governor 001 at the Blue Economy Conference at KICC,Nairobi

My Governor! wink

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:21pm On Nov 26, 2018
Nairobi,Mombasa and Watamu

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