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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:36am On Nov 29, 2018
Honestly people need to realiwe how little they understand about football and tactical systems sometimes. Do you honestly think Sarri is just being an idiot playing Kante in a different position? If Kante played the holding role they wouldn't be a possession team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olalekank(m): 9:44am On Nov 29, 2018
Kimbeast:

Honestly people need to realiwe how little they understand about football and tactical systems sometimes. Do you honestly think Sarri is just being an idiot playing Kante in a different position? If Kante played the holding role they wouldn't be a possession team.
Abeg oo
Leave our experienced coaches in the house with more than 15 years of coaching. They'd analyze everything and I'm still wondering why they've not replaced Sarri self
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:46am On Nov 29, 2018
Kimbeast:

Honestly people need to realiwe how little they understand about football and tactical systems sometimes. Do you honestly think Sarri is just being an idiot playing Kante in a different position? If Kante played the holding role they wouldn't be a possession team.

They should bench Kanté IMO because he isn't good enough in that RCM role, and if they want to stick with Sarri in the long term then there is really no point in keeping Kanté. As good as he is, he just doesn't suit this team at all
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 9:57am On Nov 29, 2018
monerozi5590:




Define technical in football terms and use the definition to tell me how Fernandinho and Alonso are better than Kante?
A player that has excellent ability on the ball and this is not Kante.. Safe for tackling and interception which is an off the ball activity, Kante has no other strengths.. But he does that so well, making him top class

It's foolishness to talk Alonso and Kante in terms of techniques..Excellent vision, passing range, deep lying playmaker, blessed with accurate shot from distance, set piece taker, these are some of techniques that sarri meant when he categorized Jorginho and Fabregas as technically gifted as opposed to Kante

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:07am On Nov 29, 2018
Give us Kante and we give you Lukaku.

Win win situation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:09am On Nov 29, 2018
All these failed ex-footballing Shekpites sef.

So Kante now has better technique than Xabi Alonso?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 10:13am On Nov 29, 2018
some Chelsea fans and insecurities ehn, they think saying Kante is not technical enough to play Sarri's central midfield role means he ain't world-class or saying Hazard is not as great as Mbappe Neymar, means he ain't talented

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:13am On Nov 29, 2018
With Mbappe and Cavani you are encourage to pass the ball quickly but not with Willian and especially Morata. Hazard is the ball carrier of the team, so having Willian who is also a ball hugger is causing imbalance in the team. Morata should be third striker at best in any big club. CFC need a goal getter in that RWF, a RWF that can run behind defenders and get a goal like mbappe. A prolific striker in the mode of Aguero.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 10:24am On Nov 29, 2018
afrodoc2:


All these failed ex-footballing Shekpites sef.

So Kante now has better technique than Xabi Alonso?
Doc, won't you offer free services to some of your shepkite brothers
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:26am On Nov 29, 2018
monerozi5590:



Fernandinho is not better on the ball than Kante. Fernandinho and Alonso are both useless in tight space. The only thing Alonso had over Kante was his long range and diagonal passes. By technical players are players who are good with the ball and who are able to buy time on the ball even in tight space.

Kante is more of a technical player than Fernandinho and Alonso.

Fa fa fa foul!

Alonso is in the top 2 most technical DM of all time. In World Cup 2010, Alonso was averaging 120 passes per game, and 100 for Bayern. I have never seen midfielder reach 120 passes over a sequence of games in all my years following passing stats, not even Xavi.

I watched Alonso live in stadium playing for Bayern, not under canopy and saw how he dominated possession against Yaya Toure and co even though Bayern had only 10 men. Although he did make defensive error in that game sha.

Fernandinho used to be an AM in Brazil before converting to DM. He is technically very good, don't be confused by his work ethic

Kante is good on the ball for a normal manager, but not to play DM in an ultra-possession team like Sarri or Pep team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 10:30am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
With Mbappe and Cavani you are encourage to pass the ball quickly but not with Willian and especially Morata. Hazard is the ball carrier of the team, so having Willian who is also a ball hugger is causing imbalance in the team. Morata should be third striker at best in any big club. CFC need a goal getter in that RWF, a RWF that can run behind defenders and get a goal like mbappe. A prolific striker in the mode of Aguero.
Honestly I feel your emotions, tears and passion when it comes to Hazard matter, wanting your best player to leave your club..As much as I feel for you, I extend same pity to Hazard, I know he's very talented, has the potential to be great as Neymar, but it's only a potential, till it sees the light of midnight cos then it would be too late, we can't be judging football based on IF.. My advice for you is to assist Hazard and his father in sending official letters to Perez as well as threatening Abrahamovic life if he refuse to sell.. For now Hazard is more like the disease carrier not ball carrier


Same Morata that Pogba was shining with in Juventus.. Same Willian alongside Jo/Fred that is the reason Neymar is shining in Brazil

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 10:32am On Nov 29, 2018
Ibime:


Fa fa fa foul!

Alonso is in the top 2 most technical DM of all time. In World Cup 2010, Alonso was averaging 120 passes per game, and 100 for Bayern. I have never seen midfielder reach 120 passes over a sequence of games in all my years following passing stats, not even Xavi.

I watched Alonso live in stadium playing for Bayern, not under canopy and saw how he dominated possession against Yaya Toure and co even though Bayern had only 10 men. Although he did make defensive error in that game sha.

Fernandinho used to be an AM in Brazil before converting to DM. He is technically very good, don't be confused by his work ethic

Kante is good on the ball for a normal manager, but not to play DM in an ultra-possession team like Sarri or Pep team.
Gbam.. Dem no know ball
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:33am On Nov 29, 2018
A40:
grin grin grin what does this even mean? Lmaooo

It means that those who watch football in viewing centres with people shouting and drinking don't really absorb the details of the game, only the highlights.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:33am On Nov 29, 2018
obainojazz:
Doc, won't you offer free services to some of your shepkite brothers

Their case is spiritual, they need prayers.
Skimpledawg will attend to them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:35am On Nov 29, 2018
Melvyn11:


They should bench Kanté IMO because he isn't good enough in that RCM role, and if they want to stick with Sarri in the long term then there is really no point in keeping Kanté. As good as he is, he just doesn't suit this team at all
Kante is not the problem but our attack. Chelsea is like playing one DMF(Jorginho), one box to box(Kante), a CMF(Kovacic), one RMF in Willian instead of RWF in this type of tactics and formation(4-3-3), a world class AMF/LWF in Hazard and an ineffective Striker/CF in Morata so tell me how goals will consistently come with this imbalance ehn.

The midfield is good, the problem is in the attack. To dominate possession you need this type of midfielders, however, a goal getting RWF is needed, a RWF that can run behind opponent defenders and get a goal when midfielders are with the ball, then a prolific striker in the mode of Aguero.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 10:35am On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
Honestly I feel your emotions, tears and passion when it comes to Hazard matter, wanting your best player to leave your club..As much as I feel for you, I extend same pity to Hazard, I know he's very talented, has the potential to be great as Neymar, but it's only a potential, till it sees the light of midnight cos then it would be too late, we can't be judging football based on IF.. My advice for you is to assist Hazard and his father in sending official letters to Perez as well as threatening Abrahamovic life if he refuse to sell.. For now Hazard is more like the disease carrier not ball carrier


Same Morata that Pogba was shining with in Juventus.. Same Willian alongside Jo/Fred that is the reason Neymar is shining in Brazil
I would not like to hear that Benzema is the one holding him back or tales like "Bale is a ball hugger when he gets there" or Solari is a defensive coach or Ramos won't let him take penalties
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:41am On Nov 29, 2018
Ibime:


Fa fa fa foul!

Alonso is in the top 2 most technical DM of all time. In World Cup 2010, Alonso was averaging 120 passes per game, and 100 for Bayern. I have never seen midfielder reach 120 passes over a sequence of games in all my years following passing stats, not even Xavi.

I watched Alonso live in stadium playing for Bayern, not under canopy and saw how he dominated possession against Yaya Toure and co even though Bayern had only 10 men. Although he did make defensive error in that game sha.

Fernandinho used to be an AM in Brazil before converting to DM. He is technically very good, don't be confused by his work ethic

Kante is good on the ball for a normal manager, but not to play DM in an ultra-possession team like Sarri or Pep team.

Xabi Alonso was good but he is Xavi's junior. Xavi averaged over 120 passes in a competition TWICE and his accuracy was much better than Alonso's.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:49am On Nov 29, 2018
Another drunkard on the loose. Same Hazard that is shinning for Belgium and has shined for CFC too. He is doing good so far this season if not for injuries that slow him down. If you have eyes, in the post you quoted I am addressing CFC problem generally. I shipped in mbappe and Cavani cos of Dayo who is trying to play down Hazard’s brilliance just because Neymar scored a tap-in, all thanks to his attacking partners who were brilliant with the ball as well.
Heywhizzy:
Honestly I feel your emotions, tears and passion when it comes to Hazard matter, wanting your best player to leave your club..As much as I feel for you, I extend same pity to Hazard, I know he's very talented, has the potential to be great as Neymar, but it's only a potential, till it sees the light of midnight cos then it would be too late, we can't be judging football based on IF.. My advice for you is to assist Hazard and his father in sending official letters to Perez as well as threatening Abrahamovic life if he refuse to sell.. For now Hazard is more like the disease carrier not ball carrier


Same Morata that Pogba was shining with in Juventus.. Same Willian alongside Jo/Fred that is the reason Neymar is shining in Brazil
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 11:03am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Another drunkard on the loose. Same Hazard that is shinning for Belgium and has shined for CFC too. He is doing good so far this season if not for injuries that slow him down. If you have eyes, in the post you quoted I am addressing CFC problem generally. I shipped in mbappe and Cavani cos of Dayo who is trying to play down Hazard’s brilliance just because Neymar scored a tap-in, all thanks to his attacking partners who were brilliant with the ball as well.
I agree he has Shined and still shining but not as much as his superiors though.. Your major input on this thread of late is solely on Hazard, stop trying to prove otherwise cos for the first time you talked bout the club whilst adding "World-class Amf/Lwf", Insecurities.. Why should I add world-class to mention Neymar even when Hensbrain knows he is world class.. Hazard is world-class, no doubt arguably
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:08am On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
I would not like to hear that Benzema is the one holding him back or tales like "Bale is a ball hugger when he gets there" or Solari is a defensive coach or Ramos won't let him take penalties
Morata is an offside monger, he can’t keep off to save his life. Goes to the ground at every slight challenges by opponent defenders or Willian that can’t spot a pass from midfielders, congesting midfield cos he can’t open space by running behind opponent defenders. If you are been fair you will notice Hazard passes forward more when average Giroud is leading the attack, imagine what he can do playing with the likes of Cavani and mbappe or Aguero in attack. Go watch CFC highlight, all the time Hazard exchanged pass with players at the final third always result to goal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:12am On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
I agree he has Shined and still shining but not as much as his superiors though.. Your major input on this thread of late is solely on Hazard, stop trying to prove otherwise cos for the first time you talked bout the club whilst adding "World-class Amf/Lwf", Insecurities.. Why should I add world-class to mention Neymar even when Hensbrain knows he is world class.. Hazard is world-class, no doubt arguably
Hazard is shinning just as much as Neymar, the difference is team mate. As a player, you will be limited or rather discouraged with Morata as your attacking partner

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 11:26am On Nov 29, 2018
monerozi5590:



Fernandinho is not better on the ball than Kante. Fernandinho and Alonso are both useless in tight space. The only thing Alonso had over Kante was his long range and diagonal passes. By technical players are players who are good with the ball and who are able to buy time on the ball even in tight space.

Kante is more of a technical player than Fernandinho and Alonso.
Kante isn't a very technical player true he has this turning that he uses to Run away from the pressing player it does not help him to beat the player. Not to talk of his passing range which we all know is limited. Have you ever seen Kante under pressure pass forward?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 11:28am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Hazard is shinning just as much as Neymar, the difference is team mate. As a player, you will be limited or rather discouraged with Morata as your attacking partner
When Costa/Drogba/Eto'o/Torres was there.. Did he shine as much as Neymar is shining in PSG cos if I mentioned Barcelona, you'll start talking Messi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Excallibur(m): 11:32am On Nov 29, 2018
afrodoc2:


All these failed ex-footballing Shekpites sef.

So Kante now has better technique than Xabi Alonso?
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:32am On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
I agree he has Shined and still shining but not as much as his superiors though.. Your major input on this thread of late is solely on Hazard, stop trying to prove otherwise cos for the first time you talked bout the club whilst adding "World-class Amf/Lwf", Insecurities.. Why should I add world-class to mention Neymar even when Hensbrain knows he is world class.. Hazard is world-class, no doubt arguably
Someone that came second at WC is not world class? Or someone that conquered league 1 with average Lille at the age of 19/20 is not world class? Same league Neymar is getting praise while playing for the best club there with no challenge. Lol.

The way una Dey reason football Dey baffle me. You guys should learn how to put things into consideration when discussing football.


I like pep just as I like Sarri cos of their style of play, but despise Mou style of play but I use my head when comparing pep and Mou in terms of achievement. I can not just because of sentiments and be talking Mou down, I’m aware it is more easier to achieve ucl with Barcelona than with Porto or inter Milan due to the financial power and talents the former posseses than the later.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:33am On Nov 29, 2018
afrodoc2:


Xabi Alonso was good but he is Xavi's junior. Xavi averaged over 120 passes in a competition TWICE and his accuracy was much better than Alonso's.

That's why I said he's in the top 2. You already know who my number 1 is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:34am On Nov 29, 2018
Afolabi6046:
As expected, every other goals are not regarded, i wonder why Messi and co stack up goals in other competitions.

Messi and co also deliver regularly in CL football unlike our shakushaku man
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:36am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Football Na by age abi Na talent? So u re among those that think Messi and cr7 are shunning due to age? U sound more pathetic G. If you get Morata as striker what can you do, someone that can’t even position well to keep offside.

Ok hens brain
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:38am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Hazard has been making those move but with Morata as striker nothing can ever come out of it. That’s the difference. It’s time Hazard change club for real.

Of those 6 miserable seasons hazard had in the CL, he only played one with morata but hensbrain wants to convince us that morata is the problem with hidden hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:40am On Nov 29, 2018
He shined when costa was there, he won epl best player when costa was there. Eto and drogba were not in their prime and Torres performed below average at CFC.
Heywhizzy:
When Costa/Drogba/Eto'o/Torres was there.. Did he shine as much as Neymar is shining in PSG cos if I mentioned Barcelona, you'll start talking Messi

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:42am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
With Mbappe and Cavani you are encourage to pass the ball quickly but not with Willian and especially Morata. Hazard is the ball carrier of the team, so having Willian who is also a ball hugger is causing imbalance in the team. Morata should be third striker at best in any big club. CFC need a goal getter in that RWF, a RWF that can run behind defenders and get a goal like mbappe. A prolific striker in the mode of Aguero.

Hazzard has played 6 disgraceful CL seasons, how many of it was with Morata

Before it was messi and Suarez helping neymar now it's cavani

In chelsea we hear that hazard played with willian oscar and ramires that's why he cannot shine

Are these not the same players neymar plays with in Brazil?
You dey lament morata. Try go play with Fred and Jo
like neymar did
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:43am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
He shined when costa was there, he won epl best player when costa was there. Eto and drogba were not in their prime and Torres performed below average at CFC.

How many CL goals did he have while Costa was here? At least Costa was here for 3 full seasons

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