Kenyanstar:
KENYA
A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY
All saints cathedral- Nairobi
Sacred Heart Catholic Church- Kericho
Tigoni country side
Karen lush gardens

Here's the old pic of all Saints Cathedral,, seems even the roads was not there then...

By then Nairobi cbd was a swamp and Upperhill was a coffee plantation

So what were your total figures for 2017?!

68816419:

understand this figure bellow and compare it what the whole of kenya counties generated which around 65billions naira at most.

"The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows."

Mind you these are states IGR not federal revenues.

Kur17:


Here's the old pic of all Saints Cathedral,, seems even the roads was not there then...

By then Nairobi cbd was a swamp and Upperhill was a coffee plantation

Nigerians will say it is Photoshop...
KENYA
Aerial photos of Random places

Kenyanstar:

Nigerians will say it is Photoshop...
KENYA
Aerial photos of Random places

To them,it looks like somewhere in Beverly hills no they say "it's a whitemans property"

Jonraid:
To cut it short

What was your government's revenues for 2017 in billion US dollars? Let's see if your treasury benefits from those 'five times more sectorial revenues' that you get!

should first analyse what our states generated in half year information and then compare it the 27b ksh your country generated for a year , before furthering to what the federal government gets .

Just give me the totals! I don't want pictures or tables!

68816419:

should first analyse what our states generated in half year information and then compare it the 27b ksh your country generated for a year , before furthering to what the federal government gets .

Nowenuse:


Well, that should be the headache of you East and Southern Africans.

God bless west Africans for retaining the racial integrity of our nations.

How does it feel to know that the richest persons in the place you call your country do not even look like you?

I sincerely hope I and my children never experience such.

Many East and Southern African nations never really gained independence.
Kudos to Uganda and Zimbabwe. True black Africans in blood and spirit. They sent the white witches away and took a hold of their own countries and destinies.

I respect whenever a Ugandan or Zimbabwean talks or boast about any development in his/her country. Unlike people here who post pictures of expensive buildings and estates which are dominated by foreigners and their colonial masters.

Bro,blame our history and geographical area.We are close to the middle east and Asia.We had more Arabs and Indians who settled in East Africa than west Africa.We intermarried with them.Their offspring are here,running their life just like fellow 'darkies'.

In Tanzania,we had political parties which was gunning for independence which were supported by the so called Asians.In islands of Zanzibar, The Afro_Shiraz party was a party formed by darkies and Asians! And the independence was gained.

In other ways,we may say,east Africa isn't totally a darkies region as your west Africa.The Asians arrived in east Africa centuries ago even before some of 'Bantu' tribes arrived.We have 127 tribes in Tanzania,but not all of them are Bantus.

Most of the richest guys in Tanzania are from the offspring of Arab settlers and Indians. And most Arabs are in oil business,thanks to their middle eastern lineages.. and thanks to our landlocked nations who are importing oil through east Africa.


The issue at hand is..what should we do when this offsprings of Asians becomes successful? Or what can Tanzania or east Africa do to help darkies be more successful than Asians? Incentives may be?

Jonraid:
To cut it short

What was your government's revenues for 2017 in billion US dollars? Let's see if your treasury benefits from those 'five times more sectorial revenues' that you get!

you can do the math your self.
lagos for instance generated around 320billion last year, but now generates over 400billion at half year 2018 analysis meaning it Will generate some thing close to around 800 billions naira ending of the year .
when we say Lagos economy is bigger and and better than Kenya economy, we ain't saying it out of blues but with valid figures and proof.

Kur17:


To them,it looks like somewhere in Beverly hills no they say "it's a whitemans property"

very funny Kenyans, every country on earth has this types of buildings , even very Impoverished country like yours too.

Tanzania
People and diversity

I want the total government revenues for 2017.I provided my links but apparently you think that CIA isn't a credible organisation.Give me the totals,that's what I asked you for! https://www.google.com/search?q=revenue+per+capita+country&rlz=1C1GCEU_en-GBKE821KE821&oq=revenue+per+capita+country&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11855j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

68816419:

you can do the math your self.
lagos for instance generated around 320billion last year, but now generates over 400billion at half year 2018 analysis meaning it Will generate some thing close to around 800 billions naira ending of the year .
when we say Lagos economy is bigger and and better than Kenya economy, we ain't saying it out of blues but with valid figures and proof.

Jonraid:
You have failed to provide the total Nigeria's government revenues.My brain isn't tied with the other Kenyans! Just because he doesn't trust CIA it doesn't mean that their data isn't reliable! Not all Kenyans think Uhuru is the best for us,but some Kenyans do.It was his opinion not mine!

yeah, I so much love honest Kenyans, they say the truth unlike these "paid foreign" Kenyans on Nairaland .
what your fellow honest Kenyans have say.

rvp20183:
That is probably kenya banking sector profit - most likely after tax.We cap interest rate to no more than 4% of base rate - so we are now enjoying very low interest of 13% - compared to Nigeria of maybe 20% plus.You need to go back to school.

No! it is before tax. Open your eyes and read it carefully.

Crumbs revenue coming from

What do you mean by this? Of course we have a corruption problem,is that a surprise?Leaders do steal,we don't have 100% transparency,I'm sorry if you didn't know that. Going back to the revenues debate,let's talk about that! How much was federal plus state revenues in Nigeria 2017?

68816419:

yeah, I so much love honest Kenyans, they say the truth unlike these "paid foreign" Kenyans on Nairaland .

Jonraid:
I want the total government revenues for 2017.I provided my links but apparently you think that CIA isn't a credible organisation.Give me the totals,that's what I asked you for! https://www.google.com/search?q=revenue+per+capita+country&rlz=1C1GCEU_en-GBKE821KE821&oq=revenue+per+capita+country&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11855j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Do even know the differences BTW states IGR and Federal government generated revenues ?

Bring the totals then.Is that so hard?

68816419:

Do even know the differences BTW states IGR and Federal government generated revenues ?

Dar, Tanzania

Look like they are struggling to raise 1b dollars..and these are states that can levy taxes
I am sure the story is the same at federal level

68816419:

should first analyse what our states generated in half year information and then compare it the 27b ksh your country generated for a year , before furthering to what the federal government gets .

forgiveness:


No! it is before tax. Open your eyes and read it carefully.

Crumbs revenue coming from

hahaha man you are really wasting your time on these delusional Kenyans, they won't just accept you, Most people can accept the truth only in the form of a lie.
you have shown them with profound evidence why Nigeria economic sectors is at least 4 times bigger and better than their, but they won't just accept as you know that truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.

Tanzania
School games

Okay how much profit did Nigeria banks make in 2017.We already settled the banking asset at approximately 40b to 100b.Let see total profit made by your banks.

forgiveness:


No! it is before tax. Open your eyes and read it carefully.

Crumbs revenue coming from

At least 4 or 5...where are those facts..I am seeing at least two times in some sectors while in others Kenya beat Nigeria.

68816419:


hahaha man you are really wasting your time on these delusional Kenyans, they won't just accept you, Most people can accept the truth only in the form of a lie.
you have shown them with profound evidence why Nigeria economic sectors is at least 4 times bigger and better than their, but they won't just accept as you know that truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.

Revenues,country by country comparison! As usual,Africa's largest economy SA is at number one!


South Africa-Population,56m (2017 est.)

revenues: $92.38 billion
expenditures: $103.3 billion (2017 est.)

Angola-Population,30m (2017 est.)

revenues: $35.59 billion
expenditures: $44.64 billion (2017 est.)

Egypt-Population,98m (2017 est.)

revenues: $37.63 billion
expenditures: $58.55 billion (2017 est.)

Algeria-Population,42 (2017 est.)

revenues: $52.08 billion
expenditures: $70.74 billion (2017 est

Kenya-Population,48m (2017 est)

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)

Ethiopia-Population,105m (2017 est)

revenues: $12.11 billion
expenditures: $14.63 billion (2017 est.)

Nigeria-Population,191m (2017 est)

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

rvp20182:
Look like they are struggling to raise 1b dollars..and these are states that can levy taxes
I am sure the story is the same at federal level

hahaha do even dare comparing yours with Nigeria,
This what your treasury board has to say
"Revenue collection by county governments dropped by Sh1.2 billion in the nine months to March compared to a similar period last year, signalling potential borrowing by the devolved units to finance some of their operations.
The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows.
“Collections so far have also declined as a proportion of the annual target,” the Treasury said in its latest budget outlook paper, adding that the revenue collected by counties in the nine-month window is 41.4 per cent of the targeted amount.
Only 20 counties posted a growth in revenue collection compared to the previous year — underlining the massive revenue generation and collection challenges facing the entities.
Nairobi recorded the biggest drop in revenues by Sh900 million to Sh8.7 billion, accounting for three quarters of the total drop in county revenues.
Nakuru’s internally generated revenue also dipped by Sh400 million to Sh1.1 billion, according to the data by the Treasury, while Uasin Gishu collected Sh18 million less at Sh524 million.
On the flipside, Mombasa grew its revenues to Sh1.9 billion from Sh1.6 billion, while revenue receipts for Kisumu remained unchanged at Sh776 million.
Bomet grew its revenues 88 per cent to Sh197 million in the review period, Baringo by 10 per cent to Sh222 million while Bungoma’s receipts surged 61 per cent to Sh526 million."

Go slow on weed.I saw 169 for half year for Lagos so at best they end up around 350b.Or you think some miracle will see it shoot 300%

68816419:

you can do the math your self.
lagos for instance generated around 320billion last year, but now generates over 400billion at half year 2018 analysis meaning it Will generate some thing close to around 800 billions naira ending of the year .
when we say Lagos economy is bigger and and better than Kenya economy, we ain't saying it out of blues but with valid figures and proof.

I'm still waiting for the amount of revenues that their exchequer collected in 2017! I want to see if it's 5 times more than ours!

rvp20182:
Okay how much profit did Nigeria banks make in 2017.We already settled the banking asset at approximately 40b to 100b.Let see total profit made by your banks.

Again they are not federal States.They are not allowed to levy taxes and borrow money.That big difference btw Federal and Devolved system of gov.You can check how much how national gov collects more than 15b dollars in taxes and another maybe 3b in AIA.Nairobi makes it money mostly from land rates, permit and parking fees..if they got a share of taxes..Lagos will not smell it.

68816419:

hahaha do even dare comparing yours with Nigeria,
This what your treasury board has to say
"Revenue collection by county governments dropped by Sh1.2 billion in the nine months to March compared to a similar period last year, signalling potential borrowing by the devolved units to finance some of their operations.
The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows.
“Collections so far have also declined as a proportion of the annual target,” the Treasury said in its latest budget outlook paper, adding that the revenue collected by counties in the nine-month window is 41.4 per cent of the targeted amount.
Only 20 counties posted a growth in revenue collection compared to the previous year — underlining the massive revenue generation and collection challenges facing the entities.
Nairobi recorded the biggest drop in revenues by Sh900 million to Sh8.7 billion, accounting for three quarters of the total drop in county revenues.
Nakuru’s internally generated revenue also dipped by Sh400 million to Sh1.1 billion, according to the data by the Treasury, while Uasin Gishu collected Sh18 million less at Sh524 million.
On the flipside, Mombasa grew its revenues to Sh1.9 billion from Sh1.6 billion, while revenue receipts for Kisumu remained unchanged at Sh776 million.
Bomet grew its revenues 88 per cent to Sh197 million in the review period, Baringo by 10 per cent to Sh222 million while Bungoma’s receipts surged 61 per cent to Sh526 million."

And most of it from oil..just add 2b from 36 states IGR..and add 1b for Kenya..and you'll see they collect less money than Kenya.

Jonraid:
Revenues,country by country comparison! As usual,Africa's largest economy SA is at number one!


South Africa-Population,56m (2017 est.)

revenues: $92.38 billion
expenditures: $103.3 billion (2017 est.)

Angola-Population,30m (2017 est.)

revenues: $35.59 billion
expenditures: $44.64 billion (2017 est.)

Egypt-Population,98m (2017 est.)

revenues: $37.63 billion
expenditures: $58.55 billion (2017 est.)

Algeria-Population,42 (2017 est.)

revenues: $52.08 billion
expenditures: $70.74 billion (2017 est

Kenya-Population,48m (2017 est)

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)

Ethiopia-Population,105m (2017 est)

revenues: $12.11 billion
expenditures: $14.63 billion (2017 est.)

Nigeria-Population,191m (2017 est)

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

Tanzania.
I love the children

This is the elephant in the room that they are avoiding to discuss!

Kenya-Population,48m (2017 est)

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)



Nigeria-Population,191m (2017 est)

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

68816419:


hahaha man you are really wasting your time on these delusional Kenyans, they won't just accept you, Most people can accept the truth only in the form of a lie.
you have shown them with profound evidence why Nigeria economic sectors is at least 4 times bigger and better than their, but they won't just accept as you know that truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.

Hahahaha! Honestly, they are truly delusional and can't help but ignore them sometimes. However, their ridiculous lies can't be ignored by me. It irritates me much but I always calm down to their level of understanding.

I think so far they are no longer crying GDP fraud after seeing verifiable facts from regulatory bodies.

Anyway, I know the truth, it is up to them cure themselves from perpetual ignorance.

Kazikazi:
Bro,blame our history and geographical area.We are close to the middle east and Asia.We had more Arabs and Indians who settled in East Africa than west Africa.We intermarried with them.Their offspring are here,running their life just like fellow 'darkies'.

In Tanzania,we had political parties which was gunning for independence which were supported by the so called Asians.In islands of Zanzibar, The Afro_Shiraz party was a party formed by darkies and Asians! And the independence was gained.

In other ways,we may say,east Africa isn't totally a darkies region as your west Africa.The Asians arrived in east Africa centuries ago even before some of 'Bantu' tribes arrived.We have 127 tribes in Tanzania,but not all of them are Bantus.

Most of the richest guys in Tanzania are from the offspring of Arab settlers and Indians. And most Arabs are in oil business,thanks to their middle eastern lineages.. and thanks to our landlocked nations who are importing oil through east Africa.


The issue at hand is..what should we do when this offsprings of Asians becomes successful? Or what can Tanzania or east Africa do to help darkies be more successful than Asians? Incentives may be?

I hope Nowenuse will for the last time understand ths..we are mixed lot