nellynonso:
In order to support what you say, you should quit your job and start living in your big church, and whenever you fall sick please don’t ever see a doctor, your big church will heal you too.

HigherEd:

Well He was happy when the Temple was built. So by that assumption he is probably happy about glory dome, faith tabernacle, potters house and the likes.

God is not a fool, he knows man and His treacherous soul more than anyone ever. He sees how they build multi billion stadiums across the world and spend their lifetime chanting and hailing football stars but remember industries and poor people when same is done for him.

The truth is God built an entire human race for self glory, an entire league of Angels was adorned to praise Him. Whether you like it or not that is who He his. Our ambitions, economy, vision is expected to be secondary to our Worship of Him.

My life philosophy is this Nothing must be built that has never been built for God God doesn't mind his worshippers raising praises for him at Wembley stadium or O2Arena.

A truth that transcends scripture is this, whenever something good is done in God's name he seems to appreciate and accept it despite the political incorrectness. The expensive perfume used on Jesus is another example.

bobowaja:
You are on point Mr OP.

Who needs a factory when there is a big church to pray for God's favor?

Who needs a good and standard hospital when a big church can perform miracles and heal and cure our sickness?

And why should we build our country individually when we can build big church as our own mode of development. Big churches beautifies the environment of course.

Who needs to open a big business when you can just open a big church and earn in several currencies? This atheist are too dumb to realize that our church is the business of our God and it yields its dividends.

Who needs security when it is the sole responsibility of the government. We don't need to ensure our security but blame the government when the terrorists knocks on our doors?

May God bless the big shops sorry churches of our pastors and make them flourish among the abject poverty of their sheep. And we shall by the grace of our God always contribute towards the good work of God even though all we can achieve is a mighty house in heaven.

May these fooli*h atheist perish in the everlasting fire our father is providing for them. Amen.

Hallelujah!!!

wis3:
you don't just make assumptions based on past events. What if you're wrong? What if all what God really wanted was for us to love and help one another?

spongeisback:
OP you're pure evil WOW!

How many temples was built during the during the time of Solomon? Solomon built ONE(1) temple for all of Israel, so this men of god that claim to be directed by the "holy spirit" why can't they build one temple like Solomon since you want to make that comparison.

Why do "Oyedopo's sons" need different mega structures if they're really inspired by god and not
greed?!

Oyedopo built his, eneche followed and David's own shrine is under construction. Why's it that they're all following the same template?
1) build church
2) build expensive school
3) build a city
4) rinse and repeat
If this doesn't tell you no God sent this men I don't know what will, but you're blinded by greed and ignorance and you feel "oh if I keep supporting them one day I will get mine"

Of course "god" is happy that an impoverished nation like Nigeria is building temples for him, he's sooooooo happy that he's blessing us. Last week while the dedication of the "glory dome" was going on we lost our biggest oil buyer....thank you god!
Ritual killings is on the all time high because of the level of poverty and hunger...you're awesome god!

Compare now to when the Pentecostal vampires haven't flooded Nigeria to then when we had fewer churches and no mega structures....god is really really happy!

Thank you daddy god!!!!

josephcletus:
I would take Christianity in Nigeria seriously once again if:
....

wis3:
you don't just make assumptions based on past events. What if you're wrong? What if all what God really wanted was for us to love and help one another?

seguno2:


Is Dangote a Christian or Rabiu, Buhari, Gandollar and the other northern Muslims?

tamethem:


You failed woefully in your quest to mock the Church.

Before you call any Christian Sheepple, you need to ask yourself some question and be sure you are sincere in your answers. Of course your likes are never sincere people, because either by crook or crude you must win every battle you wage on Christians.

"Sheepple" according to the usage by the one who started it Freeze, means gullible Christians.

Gullible according to the dictionary means deceived and it could mean foolish also.

Now who are the foolish?

If all the members of Winners for exampled are foolish then does it make sense to think that the multitude of winners comprising of different cadres of people worldwide are gullible or Stupid. Among them are Lawyers, Judges, Professors , Engineers, Politicians of high caliber. Soldiers etc etc etc. (Right thinking people).

Would it make sense to say millions of these people are gullible people? Stupid people who are being deceived?

It is only Stupid to call these Christians Gullible. If you say you don't understand why they do what they do, it is accepted, but to call them gullible is Pure Senselessness.

My guy the truth of the matter is there is something unique about Christianity that only , I mean only Christians understand. And that simple thing is the reason why they will give and give and give without looking back at the Critics of their actions.

Take a trip to these Churches and see that the people you call stupid or foolish are Happy , Radiant looking people, Comfortable people who are from different languages and cultures of the world.

They are not retched like you guys portray them. Fleets of Sleek Cars are parked at the Car Parks of these Churches at every service. Their selfless giving has no negative effect on them. Attend the services and see Joy unspeakable in the Church. [/b]

Is this Staged every service by everyone?
Oooh No! It can't be!

About the poor among them?

Oh Yes! There will always be poor people in the world and the church too is part of the world.

Jesus said in the Bible " The poor you will always have among you" He knows there will always be poor people in the church, The poor widow who Jesus commended was truly poor and yet she gave an offering.

As beautiful and well organized America , Canada, France and other civilized Countries are, there are still poor people among them , in fact people so poor that they don't have a home. Homeless! Beggars!

So what's is so special in poor people found in the Church?

Is that the reason why Offerings won't be taken again?.

Is Church offering taken by force?

So what now makes the people gullible?


Finally you and your likes are suffering from a disease called "Christianophobia"

Its defined as darkness' fight against the light .

You will always find fault in every action of the Church even if all Churches today announce that Tithes and Offerings are stopped till eternity. You guys will still find something negative to say about the Church. It is not New. Jesus Himself confirmed that there would be persecutions and your actions are part of it.

My advice to you and your likes is go get a life!

We enjoy our gullibility as long as it pays us , it gives us joy, we don't lack any good thing by giving. And we will continue to give and build Church Domes. So wail from now till eternity we continue to give. Na our Money, It should not be your headache and if it is, it has no other name but Madness.

If spending my money is your headache. It is called Madness.

lele007:


Josephcletus 5 conditions. You seem like the type to give God your conditions for going to heaven :-)

princfred:
Being doctor, Lawyers, Judges, Professors , Engineers, Politicians of high caliber. Soldiers etc etc etc. "(Right thinking people)" does not automatically imply they cant be socislly gullible. When a Russian came to Nigeria with MMM was is not those you mentioned that patronized them and got duped too?
Infact there is a threshold which many in the academia gets to and starts losing touch with reality thereby becoming delusionally bent due to dealing with utopic hypthesis for too long.

josephcletus:


You are on point. Seriously

josephcletus:


lol. not that jor. The thing is, Christianity as a religion in Nigeria, is something that i can't understand anymore..

The best is: Establish a sound personal relationship with your Creator, do what is good/right, and stay away from evil...........and also try to make the world a better place...

let's make the earth the "HEAVEN WE ALL WANT".

lele007:


See, when I got newly born again I had my issues with "religion" and stuff, it's normal.

But I had to ask myself this: if I don't join a church so that my offerings and tithes can support the gospel, how am I better than all the people whose offerings and tithes brought this gospel to me? And you know complaining never solved anything.

The last thing Jesus emphasized when he was leaving was "Go and preach" If we are not preaching the least we can do is support those who are. Anything less comes from the devil my brother. Jesus said, "he who does not gather with me, scatters"

princfred:


Enjoy your self imposed gullibility but as long as its done in the name of our lord, we will always speak biblical truth to power if e pain you and them, they should rename their Church to club so we know the true Christians. Stop using the name of our lord for personal churchprenorship.

lele007:


See, when I got newly born again I had my issues with "religion" and stuff, it's normal.

But I had to ask myself this: if I don't join a church so that my offerings and tithes can support the gospel, how am I better than all the people whose offerings and tithes brought this gospel to me? And you know complaining never solved anything.

The last thing Jesus emphasized when he was leaving was "Go and preach" If we are not preaching the least we can do is support those who are. Anything less comes from the devil my brother. Jesus said, "he who does not gather with me, scatters"

lele007:


"Stop using the name of our lord.." Lol. Did he complain to you? Why don't you go and help those poor you are so concerned about, or is this your ranting feeding anybody? Or you expect someone else to help the poor for "our" lord? Lol.

princfred:
Those people follow gallivant and elect Buhari sef...

josephcletus:



talk well said. I'm not struggling with comprehending my faith. The problem is, Those who are called to serve aren't doing "enough" to justify their presence in the ministry. That is all I'm against. It's happening everywhere, even in my own christian community, and funny enough, most persons aren't condemning the evil done by these men.


These self acclaimed men of God turn themselves into the centre of worship/attraction, such that they pull the greatest crowd in their "once-in-a-month/yearl" program l, without emphasizing on the need for the small basic community worship

Also, they STARVE the children of God with his word. By so doing, they act like all is well and preach on what they aren't suppose to discuss at all, leaving out the basic. That is why we are adopting new systems in our church..... And there came a man of God who was trying to point out that "Abortion" isn't a sin....

Please, if you are not preaching and you wish to support those who are, STOP SUPPORTING IF YOU SEE THEY HAVE ENOUGH. Someone who doesn't have a tricycle of his own (with all due respect to those who hustle legitimately with "keke", God bless our hustle one day) is supporting someone with a private jet with all is last card ?


your bank account reads 5k, you are supporting someone who is worth millions of dollars ?


you close your shop for 3days in the name of camping, that won't stop their account from reading "+".

If you can't live just the way Christ did, then don't call yourself a Christian. That is my point

josephcletus:


As a matter of fact, those set of people mentioned would still have traces of corrupt money.
Is it the doctor who billed 150k instead of 15k to save life that would donate 100k and still say he is "serving God"?

or the Politician whose main focus is to give his Generation assurance of millions ?

or the lawyer ?
Law wetin sef ? mtcheew..... let's not even go there


soldiers ? Soldiers that joined because of the unemployment rate in Nigeria ?/

Even the " Church of Satan " has elites and influential people there. ..

princfred:
You have said it all only ...plus.... and the person has the guts to push you to a government they know very well is more interested in themselves if you cough the wrong way while asking them to do the Christianity as it was and written.


Infact i wont comment again due to this your post being enough for whoever cares to understand.

princfred:
It's a case of misfocus and mis-priority. But some peoples brain have been programmed to work like that - clutching straws and yarning dust.

josephcletus:




your bank account reads 5k, you are supporting someone who is worth millions of dollars ?

lele007:


I feel you bro. There are wolves in sheep's clothing, have always been and will be till Jesus comes; we can't purge them, or he would have told us to. They will always find 'market' in the world.

But about the poor, believe this: a dirt poor person who shares his bowl of soaked garri or his 2 kobo will have greater reward than some of these super rich who hand out huge donations out of millions in the account. Remember the widow's mite. I know God knows what he's doing; when he's done on judgement day everybody will clap for him. Let's focus on running our race

princfred:
Being doctor, Lawyers, Judges, Professors , Engineers, Politicians of high caliber. Soldiers etc etc etc. "(Right thinking people)" does not automatically imply they cant be socially gullible and irresponsible. When a Russian came to Nigeria with MMM was is not those you mentioned that patronized them and got duped too?
Infact there is a threshold which many in the academia gets to and starts losing touch with reality thereby becoming delusionally bent due to dealing with utopic hypthesis for too long.


Also, go to the rural arears and see that members are wretched.

Being poor or helping the poor is not a big deal abi but Jesus emphasized so much on that. To even say that shows how out of touch you are with Christly orientation. You read where Jesus said in the Bible " The poor you will always have among you" He knows there will always be poor people in the church,...but you didn't read what he said and implied should be done about and for them as a primary function of the church and you think you are wise. How can I blame you, cherry picking Bible verses for selfish purpose is what you learnt practically from your pastors so what else is expected of you and others like you to manifest in the society?


Those countries you mentioned had their Churches doing same things we advocate here for so long (even now) even towards other continent that it became imbibed as a culture in their citizens reducing their level of poverty as their people manifested similar orientation when in government. Copy capitalism without the complimentary orientation and culture inculcated in the people by their brand of Christianity to give the capitalism a humane face and expect society to improve. Una phony. Well, from all you wrote, I guess una brand of Christianity is mainly of/for individual selfishness not necessarily improving and impacting society. To make black individual set iselfishness aside embrace society enhancement ideology is like separating goat and yam.

Enjoy your self imposed gullibility but as long as its done in the name of our lord, we will always speak biblical truth to power if e pain you and them, they should rename their Church to club so we know the true Christians. Stop using the name of our lord for personal churchprenorship.


Even politicains and political assembly have a showcase of flashy cars; look are Happy , Radiant looking people, Comfortable people who are from different languages and cultures of the world and what have you. If that is mainly what your church is about then we dont know its difference from political parties.

Uyi168:
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It's a shame that up till now u still don't know that prayer is useless...

lanvic12:



Follow what is not useless and let’s both see the result when we die ...at least less than 500 years the truth will be review thanks

Uyi168:
...when u die, the thing go shock u..

HigherEd:
1) Why Was God Happy About The Construction Of Solomon's Temple?

2) Did Poor People Matter To God During Solomon's Era Or Was God Merely Concerned About Temples?

3) Where There Poor People In Isreal When Solomon Built The Temple?

4) Why Didn't God Complain When Taxes Collected MANDATORILY From The Rich And Poor Was Used In Constructing The Temple Which Would Cost Billions Of Naira In Today's Economy?

5) Why Did God Not Tell Solomon To Use The Temple's Budget To Feed The Poor?

6) If God Despite The Existence Of Poor People Felt Honored And Excited About The Temple Built In His Honor, How Are You Sure He Isn't Happy About The Cathedrals Also Being Built In His Honour Today?

7) Where The Worshippers In The Solomon's Temple Perfect People?

Did The Inperfections Of Solomon Nullify The Gift He Gave To God?

9) Is It Possible That God Is Still Happy That An Impoverished Nation Like Nigeria Still Has Worshippers Dedicating Great Buildings In His Name?