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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Namzy(m): 3:23pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Abeg when be the burial of this forum. My black agbada don dey starched up 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 4:16pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
UP FOR GRABS ! FIRST COME-FIRST SERVE!! Mercury 2.4kva 24v LCD power inverter with cables. Condition: Neat & working. It comes with bottom screw seal meaning it has never been opened nor worked on. Charging current: 10/20A selectable. Location: Ikeja, Lagos. Price : N25,000 Call, 081-350-31951 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Janyves(m): 4:24pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Waoh!!!!! This thread is getting more adverts and less comments. Una wey dey sell market, we know you guys, please a post of your business logo and contact will serve better than the long epistles being posted. Adverts might be on the other threads( with less tech d.i.y's). Even the mother F.T.A thread doesn't get shelled with adverts like we have here. 5 Likes
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonoski: 7:54pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Pls where can I get a 5kva hybrid MUST inverter. I heard they are a different brand from Must power inverter. Thank you
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Namzy(m): 8:41pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
nonoski:Looks like voltronic axpert 5kva aka ipowerplus 5kva. I know must inverters have an axpert clone with mppt and another with pwm cc |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonoski: 10:06pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Namzy: A friend sent this to me Said its the same as MUST It seems that it's same company that produces all of them.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 6:08am On Dec 03, 2018 |
Felicity has the best prices I know on these Axpert clones - 5Kva hybrid with PWM CC at sub 200k and 5Kva hybrid with MPPT CC slightly over 200k. nonoski: 3 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CAROLYN19: 11:18am On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 1:33pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Namzy: bro, nobody here is gonna accompany you to any burial but i'm sure the likes of carolyn19, brightsolar, solardepot, etc will be happy to join agbada with you. and to all those who just come here to drop adverts, i ask you "how market these past few days?" "how does it feel like to shout at an empty hall?" 4 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saint2ace(m): 2:11pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
GeorgeD1: Exactly oh. The total disregard for other people and the fact that they feel posting ads directly amounts to sales is heart breaking. Please marketers, you guys should show some decorum. 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 3:28pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
kiekie1: SOLD! |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 3:30pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:44pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
smf/agm wahala, reason why i love fla. so the bank ran down today, as low as 45v or so. the 4 batts on the left are about 6-7months old, while the batts on the right are 3 to 4months old. each bank has 1 balancer+1 desulphator. my theory is that batt 2 failed on left bank, and has inadvertently damaged batt 5 on right bank. am proposing replacing both batts to try and salvage the situation, 2ndlly i intend deploying a copper bus bar. all batts tested ok to a 100amp load tester few wks ago when fully charged. am open to suggestions on how to prudently salvage this situation. abeg ignore the crude display box
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 10:09pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
First off, the load tester test runs for just 15 to 30 seconds - a bit too short to decide your batteries' health or lack thereof except the battery was already dead/near dead. You need to discharge the batteries under a large load for 30 mins or more to know for sure if they will hold up - personally I DIYed my own 1,200watt tester by opening up my 100amp load tester and removing the resistive metal strip and attaching these directly to a 25mm cable with heavy duty clips at the other end to attach conveniently to the battery terminals. If a fully charged 12v 200Ah battery can withstand a C2 discharge rate (100amps load) for 30 minutes and not cave below 11.5v, I mark that battery as good. You should only attempt this DIY hack if you know what you are doing as things can get very hot very fast - you are essentially dumping the entire battery into the load - I place the resistive element in a large bucket of water to keep the heat under control - at the end you get a nice DC boiling ring but please and please, only use this to test individual 6v or 12v batteries and always under supervision - never a 24v or higher config as things can quickly get of hand Without killing your hope, the batteries at 8.35v and 10.5v are substantially dead already - especially as you have a balancer attached and they still deviated that much from others in the bank. Less than 8 months is rather short for brand new batteries to fail so badly - you should look into your battery management practices to find where you went wrong - if you did everything by the book, I would blame the battery brand or the fact that you mixed older and newer batteries together and perhaps different brands too ensuring their capacities and state of charge were in sync. If I were you, I would quarantine the weaker batteries for now and use only the best four (those still above 12v or in the 11.5v to 12v range) pending the outcome of my battery salvage efforts. Are you using the HA01 or HA02 balancer? Did you verify that the balancer was actually working and moving current around? earthrealm: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Namzy(m): 10:22pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
earthrealm:Thought you will be maintaining 50% DOD max. I bought a fangpusun bmv 700 and aim to set the cut off at 50%. Hope u revive them shaa. Any equalization history? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 6:20am On Dec 04, 2018 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: ooh, seems i have a different opinion,, i believe the battery reading 12.2v is bad, why is it not contributing to the bank?...maybe because its not contributing much, made the batt opposite it to give its all in other to compensate and that caused it to fail too -8.35v is gameover for most batts.... some batts fail like that wil show ok voltage, but unable to carry load the batt of 8.35v is certainly bad as well , the reason why 3 batts are in the 10v~ range and the other bank is 11v~ range maybe be cause of age difference or ack of a busbar, will instal a busbar to reduce the variables. the batts are same make . kung long. firs bank [left] are about 3 or 4months older, and for the first 2months or so..didnt have a balancer or desulphator attached @namzy the inverter has a battery cutoff setting at 10.5v and 10v per batt, i set it on 10.5v. we have fairly stable phcn, 8 to 12hrs daily, except for some bad days like this, when phcn messes up, and my panels are inadequate to keep up. am also increasing the panels to forestall such from reoccuring so you say my plan of replacing only those 2 is flawed?? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 6:21am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Namzy: these are kung long smf agm batts. you dont equalize smfs |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 6:45am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Interesting ideas about which battery in the bank is good or bad - you could be right but I can't agree because you have balancers attached and electricity always follows the path of least resistance - except your cabling is faulty or poorly crimped, I see no reason why one battery would be stingy and hold on to it's stored up charge allowing others to suffer - each battery will give up all it is asked whenever the load calls for it subject to the battery's capacity - If the battery is prematurely spent vs. the others, that is when the other batteries would take up the burden and begin to suffer - therefore the battery with lowest voltage under load is typically the weak/bad one Neways, the only way to know for sure is to charge all batteries back to full individually and then run them down with a known wattage load individually as well. You will have an idea the Judases based on how they individually respond to charge and discharge - this test can only be done individually please (charge and discharge individually) no shortcuts! So you had KungLong batteries? I am even more worried now as I have clients who are significantly exposed. Chai Can you give an idea of your battery config - nominal voltage, number of series and/or parallel connections, absorb and float voltage e.t.c earthrealm: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 7:23am On Dec 04, 2018 |
@niyiomo, would provide other details later, i have had 2 automobile batts that failed in similar way. it would display normal voltages above 12v, but on attempting to crank the car, the voltage will suddenly drop to below 9v, i have also had some inverter&generator batts that failed similar way....thats why its advised not to rely on voltage as the only test of a batts health. you may google the condition, its quite common! |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 7:28am On Dec 04, 2018 |
NiyiOmoIyunade:Seems Kung Long is not as durable as been advertised. Seems to have a high rate of bank failure within 1 year of installation. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 8:23am On Dec 04, 2018 |
No worries Sir. To be very clear, I am not saying that voltage readings are a sure way to test a battery's health or state of charge. What I have said is to place a known wattage load on a fully charged battery and monitor the voltage profile over a period of time as the battery runs down - this test will give you a pretty clear idea of the battery capacity especially if sustained over at least a 30minutes period using a load sufficiently large that it would have drained the battery within an hour or two on a good day. The above test is far better as an indicator of battery capacity than all those folks who purport to measure capacity electronically and in addition use battery internal resistance as a measure of health - the battery internal resistance is only useful if you have established a reference measurement when the battery was factory brand new and fully charged otherwise it means nothing. earthrealm: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 10:30am On Dec 04, 2018 |
DUNKA: Yeah...beginning to think they r over rated. Am thinking of replacing the 2 suspected bad batts with quanta batts... I know its advisable to use similar batts..but as it is now..am contemplating taking the risk. What do u guys think?? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 11:14am On Dec 04, 2018 |
earthrealm:Why don't you just bite the bullet now and change out your battery bank altogether? I know it is expensive but it will be cheaper in the long run |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 11:31am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Ngbam! Oga Earthrealm sadly has more than two bad batteries although he doesn't want to believe it yet - any attempt to change batteries in bits is only going to worsen the situation. Especially, Quanta cannot easily mix with KungLong - although both AGMs, their charge profiles (ideal absorb voltage) are very different - Quanta tops out at about 14.2v for absorb while Kunglong starts absorb from 14.4v. More especially, brand new batteries in pristine condition cannot mix with 8 month old batteries whose capacity has already been impaired. It is either you start afresh or attempt to salvage 4 decent batteries from the entire bank of 8 while raising funds for eventual total replacement. DUNKA: earthrealm: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 11:59am On Dec 04, 2018 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 12:13pm On Dec 04, 2018 |
DUNKA: LOGICALLY, THATS THE proper thing to do economically, na financial suicide you dey talk so. na for business place, and 8new batts is 1m naira+ what i have spend already , na 2 pack go village remain so for me. @niyi, since long and quanta have different charging profiles, what other batt has similar profile with long?...luminous? am a gambling man, so i prefer risking a lil over 200k on replacing 2 suspected bad batts, than splashing down 1m on 8 new batts.. a lil discovery i made during all this. 1; this lcd display for batteries are very very essential, i recently installed them 3 months ago when i added the 2nd bank, perhaps if i had them from the get go..i wud hv spotted the suspect failing batt from the get go. i advice any inverter owner to make it a must have for their setup 2: pulled out my idle 8.5kva gen and attenpted to charge the inverter, the 5kva highpower inverter charged smoothly outputing 35amps at max setting no hiccups, same gen finds it difficult to charge my 4kw muspower at max charge rate of 31amps, the charging current isnt stable, as a result of the slight unstable ac output from the gen. the highpower inverter handled the unstable gen ac output like a champ...was outputting steady 35amps, no flunctuations. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 12:16pm On Dec 04, 2018 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: There is NO short cut to this, though it's painful right now, but its the best option he's got. @earthrealm, try and salvage 4 batteries out of the 8 and save up to get new ones(NEVER MIX THEM WITH NEW ONES). If you do, it will become more painful on the long run(new batteries will likely die in 6 months. It will require you to reduce your load for now. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 1:15pm On Dec 04, 2018 |
If you must gamble and still want to mix old and new batteries then don't waste money on a solid brand like Quanta. Just buy any of those 70k/80k apiece Alaba spec asian origin batteries [I will mention no names to avoid trouble]. Their brand new 200Ah under test will perform more like 150Ah anyways so already well depreciated ab initio to match with your 8 month old batteries. Most such el cheapo batteries sport a charge profile similar to KungLong - Absorb at between 14.4v to 15v. Luminous (the one with bright yellow color) is 14.1v to 14.4v so it won't make a good fit. I think you have only 1 good battery out of 8 right now, if you can find 3 more decent ones in the bank, then manage till you can afford new. I also think you need to review your battery management practices and load/usage profiles - even those crappy asian origin batteries would go up to a year before giving trouble if properly managed talk less of a decent brand like KungLong. earthrealm: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anidat77(m): 1:36pm On Dec 04, 2018 |
Hello fellow DIYers....yesterday we lined up an alternate power line from my inverter to our sumo water pump I was told to be 1hp. At start up my 1.5kva inverter overload light came up and it shut down on the overload protection mode. I know some guys here pump water effortlessly with their inverters so my question is which brand do you guys use. Currently I use a 1.5kva Eco luminous inverter. I'm skewed towards a prag or same luminous but with 24v battery bank source. But open to FTA advice.....not adverts |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 1:52pm On Dec 04, 2018 |
anidat77: I ve pumped (1HP) with 2kva icellpower without any issues, it takes upto 46% of the inverter capacity without the overload light coming on (initial surge). |
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