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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Nobody: 7:39pm On Dec 04, 2018
Csamuel45:
All you did was spy and three kids died in your presence and you never helped? So you now gave 500 for transport, well done...
As in I just tire.. You spy until the kids died..and you didn't help..
The SPY is one of the problems of the country..and he is partly responsible for those children's death

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by grrr: 7:41pm On Dec 04, 2018
MissRaine69:

An emergency ? I thought that would be obvious to you?

dont mind him
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by KenModi(m): 7:42pm On Dec 04, 2018
princekins:
Yo action is worse than this hospital. You have been waiting seeing 3babies die for the purpose of making a report? why not save a life by paying for oxygen for the baby. I do hope you have a better reason for valuing to video rather than helping save life.


Question is, does he have the money to pay; has he done so in the past; even if he did pay for this one, would he pay for every baby that comes in that hospital whose parents don’t have the money to pay for treatment; how many can he pay for?

This case is just a drop in the ocean of Nigeria’s dead health sector. Check the infant mortality rate in Nigeria, you wld be shocked.

So instead of focus on him, talk to your govt to fix things or better vote in someone who can do better that the scraps the current and past govt has/have been giving you
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by KenModi(m): 7:44pm On Dec 04, 2018
madgoat:


Stop saying rubbish.

From you name, its obvious who isnsaying rubbish here.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by grrr: 7:45pm On Dec 04, 2018
madgoat:
Smmmmmhjj.. Why should u go to the hospital without money in the first place? angry

you are truly a mad goat!
Have some pity and human feelings
Will they have money and drop it at home?
Some people with the way they spew trash out of their empty skulls
Have you watched the video and you have no human feelings?
All you could spew out of your medulla oblongata is this
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 7:47pm On Dec 04, 2018
you are not wise
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by grrr: 7:47pm On Dec 04, 2018
saphiya:
Before we blame the health workers let's consider if they really have nothing to treat the child with. Patients purchase what they need themselves in most govt hospitals
They swore an oath to save lives, do you remember that?

We must all remember we lived in a ******ed up nation.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Nmaudu: 7:49pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

I worked in a government hospital some time back. The money for oxygen is not paid to the doctors, but to the hospital cashiers and the receipt given to the nurse who brings the oxygen to be used on the patient. It’s the policy of the hospital management, so the health staff can’t do anything about it. It’s a system issue and not about the doctors.

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Leebeedo(m): 7:52pm On Dec 04, 2018
Elpercy:
how i wn take comot from dis country now
My brother, me I don komot oh and I use God take beg you, do everything possible to leave that hell hole called Nigeria. Even wild animals have conscience than most Nigerians and it's not their fault, the suffering is just too much.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 7:57pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:
The truth is, we need trillions of naira to guarantee good health care.

And before you insult the health workers, the problem is most hospitals are broke from treating patients free of charge. People come to hospital, get free treatment, and run away without paying .affects both private and public hospitals

Then there is the fact of late presentation. I do not know the child history, but it is possible the child would have died even if oxygen had been put on because it is too late.

And before anyone calls us health workers heartless.,some of us dip into our pockets and pay for these type of patients. I know. I used to be one of those medical staff who did that, and when it starts telling on your pocket....

the system as a whole is terrible
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 7:58pm On Dec 04, 2018
Leebeedo:

My brother, me I don komot oh and I use God take beg you, do everything possible to leave that hell hole called Nigeria. Even wild animals have conscience than most Nigerians and it's not their fault, the suffering is just too much.

cheesy grin
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Goalnaldo(m): 8:01pm On Dec 04, 2018
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 8:03pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

I think something concrete like a collateral or their BVN or some thing should be dropped
so I'm case they don't pay, They can be tracked

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Reference(m): 8:14pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

I understand. The whole system is a mess. We badly need to curb our population growth with education while we think out ideas on how to generate the much needed revenue to fund public services. This can only be done in a restructured entity. Our present system is just unsustainable.

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Nobody: 8:27pm On Dec 04, 2018
Csamuel45:
All you did was spy and three kids died in your presence and you never helped? So you now gave 500 for transport, well done...
Don't mind the Man
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Reference(m): 8:29pm On Dec 04, 2018
Ugosample:


I think something concrete like a collateral or their BVN or some thing should be dropped
so I'm case they don't pay, They can be tracked

Tracked by who. You will need another institution and with it another bureaucratic bottleneck with its attendant challenges just to do that. I think the first thing to do is to completely commercialise health care in Nigeria so that it can attract the much required investment.

Then to liberalise health insurance by taking it away from government control completely. For the rich and educated middle class it will be a straight forward procedure. For the poor and less informed it can be organised around the various cooperative contributory schemes you find run in markets, schools, shops, etc amongst traders, students and artisans, etc.

Then if the government wants to buy equity on the service side or customer welfare side, it can but its participation should strictly be that of a regulator. This will transfer responsibility to the public and will go a long way in creating awareness on the need to live a healthy life and moderate the number of dependents or offspring a typical family has.

Right now the government at all levels serve this false claim the medicare is free in some of its hospitals for some procedures but the truth is far from that. No government in the world can cater for 180 million people free of charge. Someone has to pay.

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by akaahs(m): 8:31pm On Dec 04, 2018
saphiya:
Before we blame the health workers let's consider if they really have nothing to treat the child with. Patients purchase what they need themselves in most govt hospitals
And another reason is, most Nigerians are not to be trusted. We have heard several cases were most patients escape from hospital because they are been own by hospital management.

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by akaahs(m): 8:37pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.
Thank you for ur clarification. emotions asides, most Nigerians have bastardise that singular act of favour.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by dominique(f): 8:41pm On Dec 04, 2018
It's convenient to heap curses on doctors and hospitals but what people don't realize is that hospitals run on money. A lot of money. If you keep expecting hospitals to treat every patient before collecting money, the hospital will shut down in no time. Our people are fond of taking advantage of goodwill. Once they realize that hospitals are treating without collecting upfront, they will troop in for free treatment even if they have the money. I remember a post someone shared here about a doctor who attended to an emergency case in the middle of the night. The patient's family pleaded that they don't have any means of getting money at that time of the night and they will pay first thing in the morning. He eventually treated the patient without them paying a kobo and went off duty afterwards. The following day, he was called while asleep that the patient and his family fled from the hospital before dawn. Not only did he pay for the treatment, he was sacked from the private hospital.

Hospitals, like every other business needs money to keep themselves afloat. Expecting them to treat every patient that comes in without collecting a dime is a recipe for disaster in an already failing healthcare system.

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by rapid101(m): 8:57pm On Dec 04, 2018
Those doctors nd nurse in govt hospital re way too heartless

Lemme tell u a story dat I witnessed in Benin which is university of Benin teaching hospital UBTH

I went wit a friend to c his uncle who worked de
While waiting for him outside
A young man with some pple rushed a boy of lemme say 15 yrs of age to d hospital.
Dis particular guy was crying, he meet a doctor nd d doctor attended to d boy. He was in so much blood which d doctor told him he has lost a lot of blood nd de need to do xray cus he be going for surgery. told him to get a card, nd told him to pay some amount of money, d guy told d doctor he shud commence treatment dat money is not d problem that he is going to get money but d doctor said if he does not pay for treatment of get d card de ll live d boy der, d guy con de beg wit pple wan bring d boy one woman volunteer to help get d card so d boy can get money for treatment but doctor insist say em must pay for treatment even if em buy card d guy beg tire d doc no even look wether person de talk, d guy don beg tire nd em kiddo de die b4 we know na life gun dis guy bring come out from em waist point am for doctor head, life story I d yan so, saying if em brother die em go kill am right der, see were doctor call other doctors with nurse, dem begin attend to d boy fast, every body run including me too oh, after one hour ny police show d place, beat d guy arrest am go station. But one tin has been achieved which is to save his young brother life. How wish d guy no bring gun na so dem for live dat small boy to die. Nigeria doctors, nurses and politicians ny wicked pass for naija nd I no know why.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 8:59pm On Dec 04, 2018
Reference:


Tracked by who. You will need another institution and with it another bureaucratic bottleneck with its attendant challenges just to do that. I think the first thing to do is to completely commercialise health care in Nigeria so that it can attract the much required investment.

Then to liberalise health insurance by taking it away from government control completely. For the rich and educated middle class it will be a straight forward procedure. For the poor and less informed it can be organised around the various cooperative contributory schemes you find run in markets, schools, shops, etc amongst traders, students and artisans, etc.

Then if the government wants to buy equity on the service side or customer welfare side, it can but its participation should strictly be that of a regulator. This will transfer responsibility to the public and will go a long way in creating awareness on the need to live a healthy life and moderate the number of dependents or offspring a typical family has.

Right now the government at all levels serve this false claim the medicare is free in some of its hospitals for some procedures but the truth is far from that. No government in the world can cater for 180 million people free of charge. Someone has to pay.

this is a brilliant idea

But will we implement it?
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by marvin906(m): 8:59pm On Dec 04, 2018
theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, hihusband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.




Dude I get your point..
Buh don't blame me for my statement have seen too many people die in government hospital's for the most stupid reasons..
What happened to saving the life first before anything else..
be freaking honest with your self most doctor's and nurse's in government hospital's are just heartless even if the patient's can pay their bills their character towards patient's is sickening

Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by rapid101(m): 9:00pm On Dec 04, 2018
dominique:
It's convenient to heap curses on doctors and hospitals but what people don't realize is that hospitals run on money. A lot of money. If you keep expecting hospitals to treat every patient before collecting money, the hospital will shut down in no time. Our people are fond of taking advantage of goodwill. Once they realize that hospitals are treating without collecting upfront, they will troop in for free treatment even if they have the money. I remember a post someone shared here about a doctor who attended to an emergency case in the middle of the night. The patient's family pleaded that they don't have any means of getting money at that time of the night and they will pay first thing in the morning. He eventually treated the patient without them paying a kobo and went off duty afterwards. The following day, he was called while asleep that the patient and his family fled from the hospital before dawn. Not only did he pay for the treatment, he was sacked from the private hospital.

Hospitals, like every other business needs money to keep themselves afloat. Expecting them to treat every patient that comes in without collecting a dime is a recipe for disaster in an already failing healthcare system.
wht re u saying
Health nd education is suppose to b free ok
Go to other part of d world access to health us even easier dan d food u eat
Cus it tax money that is used to maintain those structure called hospitals
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 9:01pm On Dec 04, 2018
akaahs:

And another reason is, most Nigerians are not to be trusted. We have heard several cases were most patients escape from hospital because they are been own by hospital management.

that's another thing
Nigerians like to exploit people....
And outsmart people

This is the result

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Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Ugosample(m): 9:08pm On Dec 04, 2018
dominique:
It's convenient to heap curses on doctors and hospitals but what people don't realize is that hospitals run on money. A lot of money. If you keep expecting hospitals to treat every patient before collecting money, the hospital will shut down in no time. Our people are fond of taking advantage of goodwill. Once they realize that hospitals are treating without collecting upfront, they will troop in for free treatment even if they have the money. I remember a post someone shared here about a doctor who attended to an emergency case in the middle of the night. The patient's family pleaded that they don't have any means of getting money at that time of the night and they will pay first thing in the morning. He eventually treated the patient without them paying a kobo and went off duty afterwards. The following day, he was called while asleep that the patient and his family fled from the hospital before dawn. Not only did he pay for the treatment, he was sacked from the private hospital.

Hospitals, like every other business needs money to keep themselves afloat. Expecting them to treat every patient that comes in without collecting a dime is a recipe for disaster in an already failing healthcare system.

you have a point
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by ceedenis: 9:09pm On Dec 04, 2018
poverty is something else. That man get mind sha cos I would have stabbed that doctor with a pen at least. This is the government someone is ready to kill for to win an election.
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by madgoat(m): 9:22pm On Dec 04, 2018
MissRaine69:

Self analysis is pertinent in your case.

Dey there they form grammarian grin
Empty skull grin
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by madgoat(m): 9:23pm On Dec 04, 2018
grrr:


you are truly a mad goat!
Have some pity and human feelings
Will they have money and drop it at home?
Some people with the way they spew trash out of their empty skulls
Have you watched the video and you have no human feelings?
All you could spew out of your medulla oblongata is this

For your mind now u think say u don yarn sense. Mumu
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by ayaoba1997(f): 9:25pm On Dec 04, 2018
madgoat:
Smmmmmhjj.. Why should u go to the hospital without money in the first place? angry
Like he was expecting the child to suddenly fall sick..
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by madgoat(m): 9:34pm On Dec 04, 2018
ayaoba1997:

Like he was expecting the child to suddenly fall sick..
If you like go to hospital and dont take money along; we will read about your case on nairaland too grin
Nonsense
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by Tapout(m): 9:58pm On Dec 04, 2018
Csamuel45:
All you did was spy and three kids died in your presence and you never helped? So you now gave 500 for transport, well done...

onadana:


Just imagine.He was there all this while,he did nothing but gave them 500 to bury their baby

did it occur to that he probably didn't have the money??
Re: The Moment A Couple Lost Their Child In A Government-Owned Hospital by IamJames: 11:20pm On Dec 04, 2018
onadana:


Just imagine.He was there all this while,he did nothing but gave them 500 to bury their baby

Have you asked yourself if he had money to pay? That he went there as a spy, it could be his own personal way of trying to expose the rot in general hospitals.

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