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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by HigherEd: 7:57pm On Dec 04, 2018
Goke7:


CAN and PFN has been compromised, they will always go for the highest bidder. Secondly the body of Christ is too divided for any self regulation as a lot of Christians and Church leaders are too neck dipped in corruption. The Church In Nigeria needs serious cleansing and I will seriously support any Govt in future that will turn its searchlight on church organizations in the fight against corruption, after all churches are suppose to exist with the highest form of integrity as exemplified by Christ.
I agree the church should be regulated directly on matters relating to finances and sort. But a govt cannot stop a 'pastor' from feeding his members grass. A govt cannot sanction a 'pastor' who sleeps with members. A govt can't question or determine the legitimacy of a pastor who divorces his wife but remains a pastor. A govt can't determine the acceptable way of preaching tithing. This is why self regulation is important in line with agreed constitution.

Of course PFN and CAN must be overhauled completely to be more effective and less political.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Goke7: 8:11pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:

I agree the church should be regulated directly on matters relating to finances and sort. But a govt cannot stop a 'pastor' from feeding his members grass. A govt cannot sanction a 'pastor' who sleeps with members. A govt can't question or determine the legitimacy of a pastor who divorces his wife but remains a pastor. A govt can't determine the acceptable way of preaching tithing. This is why self regulation is important in line with agreed constitution.

Of course PFN and CAN must be overhauled completely to be more effective and less political.

Self regulation cannot work as he or she who have no sin must be the first to cast a stone. Let the Govt do the one it can do and let God be the judge of the other issues. All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. The Pastors know themselves and everyone knows what's up so who will regulate who!

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by OlujobaSamuel: 8:33pm On Dec 04, 2018
Lol, the case of bubu and oyedepo is like the saying in yoruba; if you no love person, even if you see their shit for refuse dump, you go complain sey dey no dispose am well.
This is my first comment on the issue, I don dey wait the op to come twist am as e dey always do, here we have it with no disappointment.
I'm a Christian, But I will never accept the teachings of a clergy that lacks understanding of the doctrine of love.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by modath(f): 8:46pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:

First i apologise for my earlier outburst. But please stick to the topic and stop making personal attacks... I have seen enough counter points to my opinion and i now agree with some of it. You can pass your message without trying to denigrate.
But i still insist that if there is a chance of misinforming the public then news outlet should designate satirical post as they are.

Take the Holy Spirit out of this conversation. I have seen many great pastors make mistakes even far higher. It is our responsibility to pray for these people and call them out or criticize as kindly as we can. Their members are tender fruits at different stages of spiritual growth.

I caution myself and restrain my words because if i speak my displeasure many may not go to church again. However, what do we gain if in the name of attacking Adeboye or Oyedepo we push people away from the household of God. Then God may just punish all of us with equal measure. Selah.


I apologise too but kindly take down this thread if you can.. when you chill & look back, you'd hate for people to use this to judge your stance/objectivity.....

You have good intentions but no.... smiley

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Nobody: 9:03pm On Dec 04, 2018
Earthbound:
HigherEd, I knew it's just a matter of time before you carry your big head here to defend your 'daddy' subtly by transferring blame.


The same Oyedepo that has been seen frolicking with Atiku?

he is after the dollars, dollar is better than naira.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Denikayan: 9:06pm On Dec 04, 2018
If Oyedepo makes Heaven, We all going...

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by zoedew: 9:07pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:
Call it Satire or whatever you like, my first impression, reading Olatunji Oludare's piece was not of laughter or comedy. What i read was a supposed "well laid, investigative" reportage. Till now i do not see the sattire or sarcasm in that post and i would easily be misled by that article myself.

The only dissonance that gave the post out for me was the supposedly unwarranted tirade against Nnamdi Kanu. But without that i could easily have attempted to 'dig' further.

I understand now that the majority of folks immediately termed the article sattire based on the antecedents of the writer. However, we need to ask the impact of a credible news outlet like The Nation irresponsibly mixing sattire and real journalism together.

Knowing fully well that the general public is fully aware that the Nation Newspaper is a credible journalistic outlet then it should be imperative to label or designate sattirical, sarcastic publications under the comedy section of the newspaper - whether online or offline.

The fact here is this, a leading religious influencer in Bishop Oyedepo was misled by the carelessness of The Nation newspaper and the clarity he sought for from the presidency has professed doubt that may have cascaded into the 5,000 church network of the Winners Chapel ministeries in Nigeria. Citizens and church members in Ogbomoso, Umunede, Ede and other rural hinterlands without access to Twitter, Nairaland have now heard from their revered pastor that their president may be a Jubril from Sudan.

Do we need this in a nation where distrust for the Federal Government is so rife that citizens would readily believe the worst from them? Worse even when such accusations are peddled by leading religious voices.

Known to me is the fact that Ede is not without the availability of Tweeter. Top grade data network is there at Ede. Check and publish.

I have in numerous times called for sober reflection from Nigeria's media houses and bloggers to ensure news dissemination is done with utmost respect. A news made by Vanguard, Linda Ikeji during the last election which cited Bishop Oyedepo claiming to open the gates of hell is another typical example of how poor journalism continue o divide us and threaten our peaceful existence. Till today, that news report is still being circulated and reechoed in social media circles despite the recall made by the various news outlet. We thank God there was no violence in reaction to that particular fake news, but make no mistake that particular fake news could have put the lives of many Christians in jeopardy.

To the clergy, i humbly plead that our pastors, priests, bishops should cease from meddling in political issues. Let us imbibe the character of Pastor Adeboye who has been a father to all and a bridge builder who refuses to make political statements. Let the Nigerian people make their decisions and live with the consequences! You are Nigerians and entitled to your opinions on the political situation of the Country but in respect of Christ and the safety of Christians
all over Nigeria please speak your opinions in the comfort of your rooms and not on the pulpit to avoid needless controversies.

Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by zoedew: 9:08pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:
Call it Satire or whatever you like, my first impression, reading Olatunji Oludare's piece was not of laughter or comedy. What i read was a supposed "well laid, investigative" reportage. Till now i do not see the sattire or sarcasm in that post and i would easily be misled by that article myself.

The only dissonance that gave the post out for me was the supposedly unwarranted tirade against Nnamdi Kanu. But without that i could easily have attempted to 'dig' further.

I understand now that the majority of folks immediately termed the article sattire based on the antecedents of the writer. However, we need to ask the impact of a credible news outlet like The Nation irresponsibly mixing sattire and real journalism together.

Knowing fully well that the general public is fully aware that the Nation Newspaper is a credible journalistic outlet then it should be imperative to label or designate sattirical, sarcastic publications under the comedy section of the newspaper - whether online or offline.

The fact here is this, a leading religious influencer in Bishop Oyedepo was misled by the carelessness of The Nation newspaper and the clarity he sought for from the presidency has professed doubt that may have cascaded into the 5,000 church network of the Winners Chapel ministeries in Nigeria. Citizens and church members in Ogbomoso, Umunede, Ede and other rural hinterlands without access to Twitter, Nairaland have now heard from their revered pastor that their president may be a Jubril from Sudan.

Do we need this in a nation where distrust for the Federal Government is so rife that citizens would readily believe the worst from them? Worse even when such accusations are peddled by leading religious voices.

I have in numerous times called for sober reflection from Nigeria's media houses and bloggers to ensure news dissemination is done with utmost respect. A news made by Vanguard, Linda Ikeji during the last election which cited Bishop Oyedepo claiming to open the gates of hell is another typical example of how poor journalism continue o divide us and threaten our peaceful existence. Till today, that news report is still being circulated and reechoed in social media circles despite the recall made by the various news outlet. We thank God there was no violence in reaction to that particular fake news, but make no mistake that particular fake news could have put the lives of many Christians in jeopardy.

To the clergy, i humbly plead that our pastors, priests, bishops should cease from meddling in political issues. Let us imbibe the character of Pastor Adeboye who has been a father to all and a bridge builder who refuses to make political statements. Let the Nigerian people make their decisions and live with the consequences! You are Nigerians and entitled to your opinions on the political situation of the Country but in respect of Christ and the safety of Christians
all over Nigeria please speak your opinions in the comfort of your rooms and not on the pulpit to avoid needless controversies.

Known to me is the fact that Ede is not without the availability of Tweeter. Top grade data network is there at Ede. Check and publish.
Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Vdsc: 9:10pm On Dec 04, 2018
A thread for Yoruba apc fanatics.

As if that has suddenly made buhari a competent president.

Who cares if he is not Jubrin? Has that improved anybody?

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by fredoooooo: 9:17pm On Dec 04, 2018
OLEDEPO ...

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by fatiaforreal: 9:20pm On Dec 04, 2018
Does it mean the Holy Spirit didn't tell him anything about such a sensitive matter worthy of the pulpit?

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Roger3D(m): 9:20pm On Dec 04, 2018
God Knows How Much I just hate this Oyedepo's guts for preaching a fake gospel of prosperity in order to milk the poor. He hates Buhari because he sees him as the cause of his dwindling income

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by hakeem4shi(m): 9:20pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:

I kuku did not absolve Bishop oyedepo. But my point is if he could be misled then many could equally be. The nation should designate her sattire commentary under comedy section subsequently.
Shut up, you have no shame and your demi god. You are all thieves who are pained of not getting free money. The same way he opened gate of he'll in 2015, he misfired again and God has put him to shame. Tweeee!

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by loadedvibes: 9:21pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd who is your father ? .. cos your post is confusing.. I see a writer looking for a middle ground to try and please the populace and also not talk bad about oyedepo. if the religious leaders keep quiet and watch what good are they ? This idealogy of being docile should be put away. If oyedepo is your father n pastor then follow him. Instruction is our life

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by NumbEmotions(m): 9:21pm On Dec 04, 2018
This one that OP is saying there is hardly a trace of sarcasm in that article maybe I should have a look @ that piece of article coz one Jude of pulse.ng made me bliv the article causing this mess was too humourous to be taken as an investigative expository by the G.O.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Denikayan: 9:22pm On Dec 04, 2018
Earthbound:
HigherEd, I knew it's just a matter of time before you carry your big head here to defend your 'daddy' subtly by transferring blame.


The same Oyedepo that has been seen frolicking with Atiku?

Sheeple he is

Presently sleeping in the fields of Canaan land waiting for a miracle

Go to that Shiloh, you will laugh....

Foolish people abound

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by izzou(m): 9:23pm On Dec 04, 2018
modath:


OP,

May God redeem your soul from underneath the foundation of canaanland.... No human can epp you. smiley


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Chai

2018 is ending. Drop this attitude of yours, please

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by olawonder(m): 9:24pm On Dec 04, 2018
At the end of the day, most of us know the difference btw truth and false... but just like most Nigerians, baba Oyedepo saw what he chooses to see and translate how he wishes to translate according to his own interests. From his statements, anyone could hear that he didn’t give a damn about the writer, all he needed was a controversial storyline that can be sensationalised for his own mischief... and that’s exactly what he did!

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by PremiumLeaks: 9:26pm On Dec 04, 2018
HigherEd:

Who do you blame?
A) The Nation Newspaper: The producer of the content which should be responsible for guiding its interpretation to a reasonable extent.
B) Bishop Oyedepo: A consumer of the content who was misled. If Oyedepo a PhD holder in Human Resource Management from Uni of Honolulu can be misled then wonder how man SSCE holders,and 'semi-literate' folks that may be misled. Are we not at risk of misinforming a large part of the public in the nation in the name of sattire.


NCC better address this before they do sattire with fulani herdsmen and half the nation has been slaughtered before they realise it's a joke. Even in a nation like france with better educated citizens, a satirical publication led to the death of many innocent people because a segment of the population did not see the joke others were seeing.

If i were Oyedepo i would charge The Nation to court for misleading me and causing a dent on my reputation, especially if the publication was not designated sattire. If i buy paracetamol from a manufacturer that refused to give me a written manual on it's recommended usage on account that paracetamol is a common drug and everyone knows the dosage, then any injury i suffer from misuse should be liable to them.

I AM NOT EXONORATING BISHOP AT ALL. HE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE COMING TO THE PUBLIC
Yesterday, when i was reading through "blacklash comments" in one of the threads, you were on my mind and I longed to see what your position will be on this!

This is a bold one! I must say kudos to you for this.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by BruncleZuma: 9:26pm On Dec 04, 2018
The Nation...I laugh in Kiswahili
Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by bofia1: 9:27pm On Dec 04, 2018
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Earthbound:
HigherEd, I knew it's just a matter of time before you carry your big head here to defend your 'daddy' subtly by transferring blame.


The same Oyedepo that has been seen frolicking with Atiku?

Insulting Bishop Oyedepo will never make you an achiever in any way. You better mind your tongue when it comes to talking carelessly against a man that carries what you need.
Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by gidjah(m): 9:27pm On Dec 04, 2018
All I see here is just hate speech ,then poverty of the mind at display. Shame on you Christians. Here talking trash .No wonder you guys remain still enslaved to the Ishmaelite s !!

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Guyman02: 9:30pm On Dec 04, 2018
APC is pained that they are getting a dose of the propaganda they dished out to Nigerians in 2015, Jibril Al Sudani will be sent packing to Daura. Kudos to Bishop Oyedepo, he made Jibril to speak to Nigerians from Poland

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Pataricatering(f): 9:38pm On Dec 04, 2018
Because oyedepo messed up they should change the structure of their paper ? Majority of people who read that article knew it was satire - the problem is he already had bad intentions so he ran off to church to spread the rumor without really thinking about it !
HigherEd:

I kuku did not absolve Bishop oyedepo. But my point is if he could be misled then many could equally be. The nation should designate her sattire commentary under comedy section subsequently.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Nobody: 9:40pm On Dec 04, 2018
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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by digScratcher: 9:41pm On Dec 04, 2018
oyedepo banned from entering the UK, why, because he was believed to be a fraud.


https://www.nairaland.com/1954675/bishop-oyedepo-banned-uk-over

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by OlujobaSamuel: 9:42pm On Dec 04, 2018
Pataricatering:
Because oyedepo messed up they should change the structure of their paper ? Majority of people who read that article knew it was satire - the problem is he already had bad intentions so he ran off to church to spread the rumor without really thinking about it !
Does it even require thinking through, the wordings were so obvious.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 04, 2018
Earthbound:
HigherEd, I knew it's just a matter of time before you carry your big head here to defend your 'daddy' subtly by transferring blame.


The same Oyedepo that has been seen frolicking with Atiku?
the op worships oyedepo that's why he can't reason properly

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Corrinthians(m): 9:45pm On Dec 04, 2018
OlujobaSamuel:
Lol, the case of bubu and oyedepo is like the saying in yoruba; if you no love person, even if you see their shit for refuse dump, you go complain sey dey no dispose am well.
This is my first comment on the issue, I don dey wait the op to come twist am as e dey always do, here we have it with no disappointment.
I'm a Christian, But I will never accept the teachings of a clergy that lacks understanding of the doctrine of love.
You have said it all. This is why i find it so difficult forgiving men of such calibre and calling who take such disappointing actions.

I used to attend that church until I got fed up with their doctrine of prosperity and "giving to the church". Very scanty emphasis on salvation and love, which is the very foundation upon which Christ found the Church!

When we lampoon some of these men, folks imagine we aren't Christians and just pretend to be. Well, as S matter of fact, I'd rather renounce Christianity than believe in the assumption these celebrity men of God have some tamper proof righteousness.

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Glory4ever(m): 9:47pm On Dec 04, 2018
OlujobaSamuel:
Lol, the case of bubu and oyedepo is like the saying in yoruba; if you no love person, even if you see their shit for refuse dump, you go complain sey dey no dispose am well.
This is my first comment on the issue, I don dey wait the op to come twist am as e dey always do, here we have it with no disappointment.
I'm a Christian, But I will never accept the teachings of a clergy that lacks understanding of the doctrine of love.


You are very correct my brother.

But APC should try to reduce their lies so when people lie against them one can easily detect.

Thanks.
Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Ranchhoddas: 9:50pm On Dec 04, 2018
Someone please help me with a link to the satirical article.
HigherEd
PremiumLeaks
Modath
Earthbound
Anyone

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Re: Oyedepo, The Media And The Power Of Irresponsible Journalism by Ranchhoddas: 9:51pm On Dec 04, 2018

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