This man himself is wicked.
You could give him 500 naira comfortably to go home and bury his child, but couldn't drop anything to save the child's life, despite seeing the child was dying. Typical wicked man mentality.
Why couldn't you drop money for them to continue treatment on the child?

IamJames:


Have you asked yourself if he had money to pay? That he went there as a spy, it could be his own personal way of trying to expose the rot in general hospitals.

Then why are people blaming the staff there? Are they expected to drop their own money to pay for treatment? Many of these staff are also still being owed salary.
Pharmacies I'm sure will not give anything free to treat anyone.
It's a sad state of affairs in Nigerian hospitals, but its unfair to blame non executive staff who are also just there to earn their keep. If the drip was available, they would have used it. You can't expect a dr to continue treatment in Nigeria where there are no medicines and consumables available unless you buy them. It's not the way it is in sensible countries, but Nigerians are all in a bad situation.

grrr:

They swore an oath to save lives, do you remember that?

We must all remember we lived in a ******ed up nation.

So you expect the Drs and nurses to pay for your treatment because they swore an oath to save lives?
Why dont you people fear God?
They never took an oath to use their salary to save lives, they also are poor people who are probably still owing their house rent and school fees for their children. So where do you expect them to get money from to treat patients that come to them? Their oath is to treat patients with their skill/knowledge and do no harm. And not to use their own money to treat.
Do you think Drs and their families don't fall sick too? Do you think they also receive free treatment from these hospitals?

Evil post

rapid101:
wht re u saying
Health nd education is suppose to b free ok
Go to other part of d world access to health us even easier dan d food u eat
Cus it tax money that is used to maintain those structure called hospitals

How many Nigerians pay taxes? If not for the personal income tax which is automatically deducted from a person's salary and the taxes big companies are mandated to pay, I doubt if FIRS will be seeing up to N5m in taxes monthly. Which Nigerian will sit down and start calculating his earnings and acquisitions to deduct taxes from them?

Who told you that healthcare is free in developed countries? Whoever told you that lied through his/her teeth. What they have is a detailed health insurance system. So it's the insurance company getting billed making it look like the treatment is free. What their healthcare personnel won't do is abandon an emergency situation because the patient does not have money or insurance but it happens. I watched a video of a US hospital where a woman was coughing and wheezing violently in their lobby. The nurses and orderlies kept walking past her, none bothered to check on her. She died shortly, all they did was carry her body to one side and business continued as usual. These countries you shame your country for also have their own flaws

Let's be sincere with ourselves. Bad leadership aside, a lot of Nigerians are insincere and bad debtors. Most of them will be looking for ways to outsmart people and take advantage of them. Hospitals have been taught bitter lessons by people who will escape without settling their bills, they've decided to tighten their policy of no treatment without payment and I don't completely blame them for it sadly some poor people have to suffer the brunt.

theoldpretender:


So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

I agree with you. Nigerians are corrupt but please note, Doc, that amidst 1,000,000 citizens, there exist 1 honest person.

Keep doing your best. I have relatives in the medical profession too so I hear their stories. But hey! Always remember the Hippocratic oath. Humanity first. Let me prepare for work. I'll tell you story od such honest person.

Eyinjuege2:
This man himself is wicked.
You could give him 500 naira comfortably to go home and bury his child, but couldn't drop anything to save the child's life, despite seeing the child was dying. Typical wicked man mentality.
Why couldn't you drop money for them to continue treatment on the child?



Then why are people blaming the staff there? Are they expected to drop their own money to pay for treatment? Many of these staff are also still being owed salary.
Pharmacies I'm sure will not give anything free to treat anyone.
It's a sad state of affairs in Nigerian hospitals, but its unfair to blame non executive staff who are also just there to earn their keep. If the drip was available, they would have used it. You can't expect a dr to continue treatment in Nigeria where there are no medicines and consumables available unless you buy them. It's not the way it is in sensible countries, but Nigerians are all in a bad situation.

Now that's the problem there. This is a government funded hospital and they receive allocations, so the question is where do these allocations go to? If things are done right, one is expected to pay very little or nothing when you go to government hospitals for treatment. This is what the spy wanted to expose.

Mad doctors and Nurses in Mad Hospital

Reference:


Tracked by who. You will need another institution and with it another bureaucratic bottleneck with its attendant challenges just to do that. I think the first thing to do is to completely commercialise health care in Nigeria so that it can attract the much required investment.

Then to liberalise health insurance by taking it away from government control completely. For the rich and educated middle class it will be a straight forward procedure. For the poor and less informed it can be organised around the various cooperative contributory schemes you find run in markets, schools, shops, etc amongst traders, students and artisans, etc.

Then if the government wants to buy equity on the service side or customer welfare side, it can but its participation should strictly be that of a regulator. This will transfer responsibility to the public and will go a long way in creating awareness on the need to live a healthy life and moderate the number of dependents or offspring a typical family has.

Right now the government at all levels serve this false claim the medicare is free in some of its hospitals for some procedures but the truth is far from that. No government in the world can cater for 180 million people free of charge. Someone has to pay.

health insurance is a scam, trust me, they will treat you like a second class citizen if you go to any government or private hospital with your health insurance card and will be given the cheapest drugs.

just ask your HMO how much it pays each hospital per patient per year or per appointment, then ask the hospital the same question.

dfrost:


I agree with you. Nigerians are corrupt but please note, Doc, that amidst 1,000,000 citizens, there exist 1 honest person.

Keep doing your best. I have relatives in the medical profession too so I hear their stories. But hey! Always remember the Hippocratic oath. Humanity first. Let me prepare for work. I'll tell you story od such honest person.

humanity first indeed

I really don’t get it, why ppl would prefer to do a video or take pictures of how bad things are and how desperately we need change but won’t help out when they should/can. He could have helped with some cash to save the bady’s Live not make a video

theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

Well said bro, well said!

IamJames:


Now that's the problem there. This is a government funded hospital and they receive allocations, so the question is where do these allocations go to? If things are done right, one is expected to pay very little or nothing when you go to government hospitals for treatment. This is what the spy wanted to expose.

Allocations are used to run the hospital. Repairs, generators, pay staff, buy equipment etc. The chairs you sit on, the cards, papers they write in, everything they use there where do you think it comes from.

Medical care isn't free, anywhere in the world. If you don't pay in the spot you've paid somehow prior to falling ill.

NHIS is a scam. Tell the average Nigerian to pay 3k or 5k monthly " incase" he falls sick to get treatment he would tell you he would wait to be ill first instead of dashing his money out to insurance companies.

If he doesn't fall sick he would definitely go to a hospital to try and get treatment for his 5k forgetting that another person might need 20k for treatment and they'll use 3 people's 5k and the sick persons 5k to make it up.

We have no personal joy in this part of the world.

It is a pity. What a country! What a country! I weep for my fellow country men and women who are hapless and helpless. Yesterday a middle aged man committed suicide by lying down on a train track in Kubua Abuja and he was crushed by train. He left a pathetic suicide note that he decided to end his life as he can no longer cater for his family. God, how did we get here?

hmmmmm, wickedness.

theoldpretender:
The truth is, we need trillions of naira to guarantee good health care.

And before you insult the health workers, the problem is most hospitals are broke from treating patients free of charge. People come to hospital, get free treatment, and run away without paying .affects both private and public hospitals

Then there is the fact of late presentation. I do not know the child history, but it is possible the child would have died even if oxygen had been put on because it is too late.

And before anyone calls us health workers heartless.,some of us dip into our pockets and pay for these type of patients. I know. I used to be one of those medical staff who did that, and when it starts telling on your pocket....

Dont give excuses for the wicked act often committed by Nigeria health workers especially in GOVT hospitals. Sometimes I wonder why God allowed them to even read medicine in the first place because they have no atom of humanity in them.70% of death in govt hospitals is caused by outright wickedness and negligence..

I know money rules all things especially in the hospital but life can never be brought back after you guys allowed it to happened without even the slightest concern in the word.

Do you know if one of those people that have died out the wickedness and negligence of health workers could have been the president of this country that will change things around for good or even be a scientist in the medical line that will discover and a ground breaking vicine for an ailment? ....lives means nothing to you guys because money rule the world.

I have been to govt hospital even with my money, i see the way patient are treated by health worker in the worst dehumanizing way just because they are vulnerable and at you peoples mercy...God knows the number of courses that follows health workers in govt hospitals for their numerous atrocities. I used to Admire health but my experience with them at govt hospital leave nothing to be desired.You all need proper orientation on how to relate with patient both rich and poor.

mediaNGR:


Watch video here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq98VcGgIRD/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=W9Yl0QABAAH8ad3brc1v-rUWokIQ

Source: https://www.mediahelm.com.ng/2018/12/watch-heartbreaking-moment-couple-lost.html

Oga you were there it happened, all you did was to give him=N=500 for t fare to go bury his child, y couldn't you pay the bills, ok I forgot, you have only 500, y didn't u raise the money, make calls, do something, talk to the doctor if he isn't listening, start a fight, find the oxygen threaten to destroy it entirely. Whatever you would have done something than coming here to post this, you would have posted of your heroic deed and not complain, we are the problem of this country, see how you have pushed it back to the government owned hospital, you would have fought for the boy's life not carrying hidden camera upandan, ok u have posted it, what have you gained? Meeeeehn, redefine your calling, we have no value for human life. The least you would have done is to beat the doctor

madgoat:
Smmmmmhjj.. Why should u go to the hospital without money in the first place?

You are a big fool, it's people like you that have lost touch with humanity, because you can afford three square meals a day you think everyone can. You are very useless asking that kind of question.

theoldpretender:


I usually don't get angry here on Nairaland,but I think that this doctors and nurse abuse has gone far enough.

I used to work in one private hospital. One night a guy came with his heavily pregnant wife. Wife was having obstructed labour. Husband begged doctor to do operation : money would come later. The doctor...my oga then...did the op. Up till today, husband has not dropped a single penny.

Keep in mind that government hospitals also rely on the revenue they generate in a year....

The reason why they rejected that patient was not because of demons and fallen angels...but because far too many patients are owing bills, and when it begins to affect the perfomance of the hospital...ie in dealing with overheads,providning some essential materials....you have to make a choice.

Treat people for free and go broke...or start being firm...and save money,and jobs.

So please, stop insulting us....especially as some of us use our salary to pay for patients...without expecting reimbursment. And we have dependents and families too.

Grow up.

well said sir, it's good seeing things from the other side too I appreciate. But I still think that we should have value for human life, no amount of money can be compared to a human life. The hospital should simply device a way of collecting bills owed them than refusing to treat patients for lack of cash especially government owned hospitals, even if it means Creating a debt recovery department, when the patients refuses to pay you can go to thier work place, businesses or homes to claim whatever you think could clear the bills pluss your expenses, there is no reason whatsoever to disregard a human life for want of money.

dominique:
It's convenient to heap curses on doctors and hospitals but what people don't realize is that hospitals run on money. A lot of money. If you keep expecting hospitals to treat every patient before collecting money, the hospital will shut down in no time. Our people are fond of taking advantage of goodwill. Once they realize that hospitals are treating without collecting upfront, they will troop in for free treatment even if they have the money. I remember a post someone shared here about a doctor who attended to an emergency case in the middle of the night. The patient's family pleaded that they don't have any means of getting money at that time of the night and they will pay first thing in the morning. He eventually treated the patient without them paying a kobo and went off duty afterwards. The following day, he was called while asleep that the patient and his family fled from the hospital before dawn. Not only did he pay for the treatment, he was sacked from the private hospital.

Hospitals, like every other business needs money to keep themselves afloat. Expecting them to treat every patient that comes in without collecting a dime is a recipe for disaster in an already failing healthcare system.

Put money aside..Some doctors are agent of death.Now take a look at this scenario. Some years back, I and my sister on our way to work , picked up a young man that was a victim of a hit and run ..he was partially conscious at that time but was pleading profusely from the head..when we arrived at the hospital..both nurses and the doctor on duty had this non nonchalant attitude toward the whole scene.There was no sense of urgency from the doctor to quickly attend to the patient, rather he just walked down the stairs like he had nothing to do at the moment..even while we cry and shouted "emergency! emergency"....it took donkey time for the nurse to come out with a stretcher to bring him in and the first the thing the stupid and wicked doctor asked from us was N10,000 for registration/cons if not the young man will not be attended to..While my sister ran to the ATM to get the money for a stranger she does not know, the Doctor on the other hand whose profession is to save life was there looking at me while the young man bleeds to his death...To cut the story short..he was stabilized after we gave the hospital the money ...the young man's family was contacted and was relocated to LUTH..he spent 4 months in LUTH..because he had a head injury and his facial bone shifted...this same boy finally contacted us when got well,to thank us...there we learnt he and his brother are the only surviving children of his parents. He continued call and show his appreciation for a long time until we beg him that it is ok. ...
Money or without money 80% of doctor and nurses in Nigerian hospital are agent of death to the plain poor and vulnerable people but they very nice and good doctors to the rich....their attitude toward poor patient is appalling and dat is what pisses me off.

mediaNGR:


Watch video here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq98VcGgIRD/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=W9Yl0QABAAH8ad3brc1v-rUWokIQ

Source: https://www.mediahelm.com.ng/2018/12/watch-heartbreaking-moment-couple-lost.html

First of all, the author is sick in his head!
Why didnt he hlp the fellow since he was there and saw that they had no cash?
After the death of the baby he decided to giv him N500. He is a bastard.
Secondly, frm his story, it is obvious the doctor saw the patient and placed on oxygen. If the patient doesnt have money to pay for oxygen, what do u want the doctor to do? Run to oxygen plant and carry the oxygen on his head? It is nt the fault of the doctor that the relatives at that point were nt financially strong enuf to foot the bill which lead to the death of the patient.
Every little tin u guys blame doctors and nurses like they are the reason there is poverty in the country

Mstchewww

omoharry:
Put money aside..Some doctors are agent of death.Now take a look at this scenario. Some years back, I and my sister on our way to work , picked up a young man that was a victim of a hit and run ..he was partially conscious at that time but was pleading profusely from the head..when we arrived at the hospital..both nurses and the doctor on duty had this non nonchalant attitude toward the whole scene.There was no sense of urgency from the doctor to quickly attend to the patient, rather he just walked down the stairs like he had nothing to do at the moment..even while we cry and shouted "emergency! emergency"....it took donkey time for the nurse to come out with a stretcher to bring him in and the first the thing the stupid and wicked doctor asked from us was N10,000 for registration/cons if not the young man will not be attended to..While my sister ran to the ATM to get the money for a stranger she does not know, the Doctor on the other hand whose profession is to save life was there looking at me while the young man bleeds to his death...To cut the story short..he was stabilized after we gave the hospital the money ...the young man's family was contacted and was relocated to LUTH..he spent 4 months in LUTH..because he had a head injury and his facial bone shifted...this same boy finally contacted us when got well,to thank us...there we learnt he and his brother are the only surviving children of his parents. He continued call and show his appreciation for a long time until we beg him that it is ok. ...
Money or without money 80% of doctor and nurses in Nigerian hospital are agent of death to the plain poor and vulnerable people but they very nice and good doctors to the rich....their attitude toward poor patient is appalling and dat is what pisses me off.

Thank you, agent of life

allthingsgood:
Some of the heartless wicked and demonic nurses and doctors can be found in govt hospitals. Demonic witches and wizards!

Even cleaners too have mouth to talk to people anyhow. Ordering people around. One tried it with me last week when I went for immunization and I cleared her doubt.

allthingsgood:
Some of the heartless wicked and demonic nurses and doctors can be found in govt hospitals. Demonic witches and wizards!

The doctors and nurses don't make the hospital policies.
There are usually strict policies in most centres that require payment before service. Failure to adhere, most times attract strict penalties for the hospital staff.

A major means of tackling such problem is having viable, active and client-friendly health insurance schemes in place.

Of course, the general economic state has to be favourable also for health services to be available to most if not ALL individuals.

What the reporter saw is unfortunately, a common occurrence which plays out EVERYDAY in different health centres across the Country.

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NaMe4:


The doctors and nurses don't make the hospital policies.
There are usually strict policies in most centres that require payment before service. Failure to adhere, most times attract strict penalties for the hospital staff.

A major means of tackling such problem is having viable, active and client-friendly health insurance schemes in place.

Of course, the general economic state has to be favourable also for health services to be available to most if not ALL individuals.

What the reporter saw is unfortunately, a common occurrence which pays out EVERYDAY in different health centres across the Country.

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Stop talking trash. There is no such govt policy
The hippocratic oath says u must save life first! So quit the lies

allthingsgood:
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Stop talking trash. There is no such govt policy
The hippocratic oath says u must save life first! So quit the lies

Calm down! No one mentioned government policy.
Read well before commenting.

I wrote: Most Hospitals have their policies of payment before service which the medical staff have to adhere to.

NaMe4:


Calm down! No one mentioned government policy.
Read well before commenting.

I wrote: Most Hospitals have their policies of payment before service which the medical staff have to adhere to.

Pls o, what is wrong with your brain
Go back and read the post. we are talking of govt hospitals
Dont just jump into convo and blab

allthingsgood:


Pls o, what is wrong with your brain
Go back and read the post. we are talking of govt hospitals
Dont just jump into convo and blab

So the doctors and nurses in the multiple 'Government Hospitals' the reporter went to across North-Central Nigeria are demonic.

Don't you think there could have been another possible common factor in all those facilities leading to similar events?

NaMe4:


So the doctors and nurses in the multiple 'Government Hospitals' the reporter went to across North-Central Nigeria are demonic.

Don't you think there could have been another possible common factor in all those facilities leading to similar events?

please i dont want to insult u. stop quoting me with stupid ideas

princekins:
Yo action is worse than this hospital. You have been waiting seeing 3babies die for the purpose of making a report? why not save a life by paying for oxygen for the baby. I do hope you have a better reason for valuing to video rather than helping save life.

and what if he doesn't have the money to pay for the parent of the child? The govt should be blamed here for turning this country into this mess. the hospital has their own portion of the blame too, they should at least Give the child a chance to live and claim there money later.

dominique:


How many Nigerians pay taxes? If not for the personal income tax which is automatically deducted from a person's salary and the taxes big companies are mandated to pay, I doubt if FIRS will be seeing up to N5m in taxes monthly. Which Nigerian will sit down and start calculating his earnings and acquisitions to deduct taxes from them?

Who told you that healthcare is free in developed countries? Whoever told you that lied through his/her teeth. What they have is a detailed health insurance system. So it's the insurance company getting billed making it look like the treatment is free. What their healthcare personnel won't do is abandon an emergency situation because the patient does not have money or insurance but it happens. I watched a video of a US hospital where a woman was coughing and wheezing violently in their lobby. The nurses and orderlies kept walking past her, none bothered to check on her. She died shortly, all they did was carry her body to one side and business continued as usual. These countries you shame your country for also have their own flaws

Let's be sincere with ourselves. Bad leadership aside, a lot of Nigerians are insincere and bad debtors. Most of them will be looking for ways to outsmart people and take advantage of them. Hospitals have been taught bitter lessons by people who will escape without settling their bills, they've decided to tighten their policy of no treatment without payment and I don't completely blame them for it sadly some poor people have to suffer the brunt.

I give up
U win

Cheeryfeet:


You are a big fool, it's people like you that have lost touch with humanity, because you can afford three square meals a day you think everyone can. You are very useless asking that kind of question.

Lazy jobless Nigerian youth. Get a job so that you can afford healthcare. Hospitals are not charity organizations.
If you like go to a hospital without money; we will gladly read your sad story outcome on nairaland and i will be the first to comment that day.