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Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Rebuke: 10:55am On Dec 09, 2018
Whenever the truth is presented before yhu all, yhu rant and beat about the bush.

It's very easy to please the flesh than to obey God.


I am not ruling out the fact that some people miss use the platform of tithing and offering but that also doesn't make any sane human to conclude that every man of God does or that offering and tithe giving is wrong or not biblical.



Judging from the comments here, I am free to say that Freeze n all his followers put together are not as intelligent as d 16yeear old Op.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Nobody: 10:56am On Dec 09, 2018
Rebuke:




The sixteen year old boy Op is far more intelligent than you. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Actually u are the dumb one here. Now answer my question.
Are u a Christian?
Do you believe u will go to heaven even if u don't pay 10 percent of ur earnings?
Do u believe god will believe u if u don't pay tithes?
Answer these questions truthfully
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Lomprico2: 11:05am On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.

Guy! Which brand do you take? Its on me.


Its so sad that many Nigerian Christians that claim to go to school did so in vain. When someone threatens you with eternal damnation just because he/she did not fulfil a mosaic law and they say its not force! Shm.

Its unfortunate that this 16 year old has been hoodwinked at his tender age.

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Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by VictorRomanov: 11:09am On Dec 09, 2018
Obviously, boy, you don't know what the word coerce means. Look it up in a good dictionary.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Nobody: 11:15am On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.
small small now.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by clemzo101(m): 11:15am On Dec 09, 2018
ollah2:


Technically, Jesus was also disgraced and killed like a roach alongside two thieves
ok sir. May ur mouth not put you in trouble
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by DAYOODS(m): 11:15am On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.
Guy pack well ,there is no sense in what you are saying.
the reason why Yahoo is a crime is because the victims
were deceived and they complain and report . But in the case of church tithing , you are convinced doing it , and people don't complain and report .It is a belief system if you are not ok with it you opt out ... Do you Know how many people have been blessed through men of God.But Yahoo boys dupe you and waste it on prostitute. If you are against this post. Maybe you are yahoo boy....
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Franking: 11:20am On Dec 09, 2018
Completely brainwashed at 16. God is fraud. Simple.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by bigtt76(f): 11:21am On Dec 09, 2018
When issues of tithes crops up, people are quick to point out the verses in the Bible and claim it must be obeyed... but what of the other laws in the Bible? Do you obey them? If yes 'where is Ceasar that you are giving to as directed by Jesus Christ?' - Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's cheesy cheesy cheesy lemme comman be going joooooor!
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Franking: 11:21am On Dec 09, 2018
DAYOODS:

Guy pack well ,there is no sense in what you are saying.
the reason why Yahoo is a crime is because the victims
were deceived and they complain and report . But in the case of church tithing , you are convinced doing it , and people don't complain and report .It is a belief system if you are not ok with it you opt out ... Do you Know how many people have been blessed through men of God.But Yahoo boys dupe you and waste it on prostitute. If you are against this post. Maybe you are yahoo boy....

Chai. Them don finish this one.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Franking: 11:23am On Dec 09, 2018
clemzo101:
ok sir. May ur mouth not put you in trouble

Trouble bawo? Jesus was disgraced as the criminal he was. True or false?
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by salih74(m): 11:25am On Dec 09, 2018
D boy don yearn serious truth
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Michhy123(f): 11:29am On Dec 09, 2018
LagosismyHome:


Be sure of what you type :

I have attended catholic masses in US, Canada and UK and not once have I heard the mention of tithes.

Yes offering collected (in most cases oyibo put coins self. They little left over changes ) but tithes or even a mandatory one . Never heard that

It is called free will donation....
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by gidjah(m): 11:30am On Dec 09, 2018
notoriousbabe:
I'm sure his pastor father helped him to wroted this letter, a small boy of his age cannot wroted this kind of letter, someone wroted it for him
what's your level of education sir, which part of Nigeria do you reside, do you stay in a choiced area of your state where you have kids of the very comfortable stay ? If you do not have this experiences as affirmative, then you are justified over your statement.Kids far lower in age can even do better in writtng than this sir, that's the world of the educationally comfortable .I am teacher by design and I come across great young writers in this nation and beyond .
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by mockingdove: 11:31am On Dec 09, 2018
It will be difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God,it will be easier for a horse to pass through a needle but these pastors are billionaires with 3 private jets,wen u say somebody won't make heaven because he didn't pay tithe,you are indirectly forcing him,I work with strict adherence to the scriptures,that boy should be locked up

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Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by gidjah(m): 11:32am On Dec 09, 2018
Lexusgs430:


We must find that person that wroted it and brought him for punishment......
hahahahahaja see grammar from. Momma wroted !!!
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by ollah2: 11:32am On Dec 09, 2018
clemzo101:
ok sir. May ur mouth not put you in trouble

Did i lie?
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by hizzypearl(f): 11:33am On Dec 09, 2018
Time Registered: MAY 13 2010. And You Are Sixteen Years Old.. You Opened This Account When You Were 8 Years Old

What The Fu__
SaKaMaJe...
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by gidjah(m): 11:34am On Dec 09, 2018
seunlly:


Seriously.
Probably you didn't wroted this yourself too grin grin grin

Son of a thousand father.
hhahahahahahahahah !!!no kill person o!
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by bravehost4u(m): 11:39am On Dec 09, 2018
IF THIS ISN'T ABNORMAL, I WONDER WHAT IS.

Richest Churches in the world.

1- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- $40 Billion +

2- Catholic Church - $30 billion +

3- church of England - $7.8 Billion +

4- Opus Dei - $ 2.8 Billion +

Now observe that there is no;

RCCG
Winners
Christ Embassy
Synagogue
No Pentecostal church at all

RICHEST PASTORS IN THE WORLD

1 Bishop OYEDEPO - $150 Million
2 Bishop TD Jakes - $147 Million
3 Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 Million
4 Pastor Benny Hinn - $42 Million
5 Pastor Adeboye - $39
6 Pastor Creflo Dollar - $27 (He used to be #1)
7 Pastor Kenneth Copeland - $25
8 Evangelist Billy Graham - $25
9 Prophet TB Joshua $10
10 Pastor Joseph Prince $5

Observe again that none of the 4 richest churches mentioned have their leaders on this list of the Richest Pastors .

The Pope is not there
The Arch Bishop of Cantabury is not there
The Bishop of Opus Dei is not there
The Director of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint is not there.

Now observe again.

6 out of the 10 Richest Pastors are blacks, with their congregation being predominantly black.

4 out of the 10 richest Pastors have their churches in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world, the 147the most corrupt nation of the world, the home to the second deadliest terrorist group, the most unsafe place to give birth to in the world.

Observe as well that the Richest Churches are situated in

1- USA
2- Vatican city
3- England

These are amongst the safest , less corrupt and most prosperous Nations.

Like I said, if this isn't abnormal then nothing is abnormal.

Source of Data used: Wikipedia
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Lexusgs430: 11:40am On Dec 09, 2018
gidjah:
hahahahahaja see grammar from. Momma wroted !!!

No be me talk am o...... Are you listening to CoolFMNigeria? Freeze don table akpororo matter.....

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Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by DavidEsq(m): 11:41am On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.
Bros, abeg wetin be ur brand?
"Barman, pls attend to dis man"
Abeg u go manage like 4 plates of cowtail peppersoup, step am down with ur brand?
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by clemzo101(m): 11:42am On Dec 09, 2018
Franking:


Trouble bawo? Jesus was disgraced as the criminal he was. True or false?
never mind sir
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by thunderbabs: 11:46am On Dec 09, 2018
Freeze na agent of darkness before na and his life isnt even worth emulating for a christian child sef.

B lyk say demons don possess am to confuse the church but its not werking cheesy

Jus attacking the church like a mad dog..
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by damlek7576(m): 11:56am On Dec 09, 2018
Boboye4slim:
I wanna ask a question. My intentions are not to insult you in anyway, just curious.

I’ve learnt first hand that most of these pastors you talk about don't coerce or force the people to pay. They always out of generosity propel themselves to give to these pastors. Now, If you ask the churches or pastors not to receive supports or tithes from the congregation, how do you expect the church to grow and expand the teaching of Gods word?? Or are you saying the churches need not to be run at all?? Even if this big men of God suddenly run down, are the churches going to run down too??

I think what you should be agitating for is that pastors need to be accountable and properly use this money to help the needy. You fighting a full blown war against the church, I said this because of the way you attacked the experience program which isn’t a platform to extort tithe or funds from the people. At this rate, you come against anything that pertains to churches. There are tons of intelligent people in the USA, Canada, China, developed countries like that, still, their churches pay tithes and support the ministry.

The Catholic Church receives tithes and offerings, there’s no church in the world that doesn’t receive tithe and support from her congregation, if they don’t, how else will the gospel progress. If your fight is against the accountability of Nigerian pastors, that’d be so understandable and logical, but this spilled over outbursts against anything church in Nigeria is in my opinion needless.

I have never in my 16 years of existence heard where congregations are coerced to pay tithe or support the church. In winners chapel, there’s even a platform where money are lend to borrowers with no interest, There’s a platform where after every service, food , clothes etc are shared among people that need them. In the cell fellowship centers in Winners Chapel, you can talk to your cell ministers when you are in need and those needs would be met ranging from paying school fees to paying rents and so on, you can’t tell me that’s a lie cuz I am living testimony to that. The buses to and fro Canaanland used to be free until running them became hard, now it’s only free for new converts.

So this things aren’t run on leaves but money. And this congregation are always happy to give to the church. After all when people spend huge amount in clubs on liquor, on gamble, or on the needy, on relatives, for friends, on habits, on hubbies.....when people spend on these factors no one complains. So why is that you see giving to church as a waste?

You blame the church for our country being the world poverty capital of the world. Do you want winners chapel or redeemed or MFM to start running Nigeria with the contributions of its congregations? Contributions that you still bash them about? Imagine what Bishop Oyedepo has done with covenant University of 10 years, now imagine if he has access to a vast national resources that UI or OAU enjoys. Why are you blaming the church for the nations poverty?? Was Jesus in charge of the nation’s economy in his time? Was he in charge of military? In charge of public hospitals? If you want the church to take over the affairs of Nigeria, why don’t you implore the government to handover to the church?? There’s the government and there’s the church. Both have their functions. The church can only voice out and advise the government on what to do, it’s left for the government to do something about it.

I know of course that freeze would spin and spin and grammar everyone against his opinion down but I think at the end of the day he knows the truth.
In my opinion.
number 1..Anti pastor freeze is trying to be popular by criticizing men of God
number 2..Churches in nigeria are more very effective than the Government,in terms of university...COVENANT UNIVERSITY IS AMONG TOP 3000 UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD ,

In my conclusion churches sometimes provide social amenities to their member,when govt fails
...The impact on churches can never be overemphasize in the worldd..so mr freeze shut your mouth
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Kusetic(m): 12:02pm On Dec 09, 2018
DAYOODS:

Guy pack well ,there is no sense in what you are saying.
the reason why Yahoo is a crime is because the victims
were deceived and they complain and report . But in the case of church tithing , you are convinced doing it , and people don't complain and report .It is a belief system if you are not ok with it you opt out ... Do you Know how many people have been blessed through men of God.But Yahoo boys dupe you and waste it on prostitute. If you are against this post. Maybe you are yahoo boy....

In essence if a yahoo boy manipulates and defrauds another individual and uses the funds to set up a school or shares it, he is right? How about the families that have been affected adversely?
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by payloader(m): 12:03pm On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.
No my brother. Quoting the bible to back up a doctrine still based on the bible is not psychological blackmail. Keep following Daddy Freeze and attacking the church and her pastors, but don't come online to defend it because no need.
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by helpee(m): 12:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
2019elections:
Let's assume a 16 year old wrote that without external or internal interference. Isn't this worrisome? A young man at this age channelling his energy on religious activities rather than planning on how to make innovations.
I know some will say "what are my innovations?" I need not start trying to defend my personality. Let's take it from this angle, Americans, Asians and the Europeans are tagged less religious by the religious Africans (especially Nigerians), yet we always run to dem for pasture new rather than run to God or god ( depending on what u serve). Isn't that hypocrisy?
We are here celebrating largest church in d world with no significance to an average Nigerian while countries celebrate scientific innovations. Pastors or Imams go to d hospital when they are sick, some even travel to the so called unreligious countries for treatment. Why can't they just 100% rely on what they believe in?

In my street only we have 12 churches with no industry , only those selling provisions. In fact bin a religionists is so bad that a redeem church member won't go to a nearby redeem church rather he will go to the one in town cos of d social benefits. No b same redeem? Abeg make una just de try use sense. Nigeria no fit progress like this.
This is d exact reason we always believe any sickness is a spiritual attack in Nigeria.
while I don't support tithe, your logic is awkward. The juvenile boy is doing something, let some other people do something else. We don't all have to think about same thing. Some will think business, some governance, some sciences. In your street, 12 people already saw need for church. They didn't sit down...they went ahead and activate their dreams. You saw the need for industry, rather do something about, you are attacking somebody else . Is it too bad if you start that Industry or are you waiting for the boy to come and start it for you? By the way, why do you think freeze is spending all his energy on churches rather than innovations?
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by Nobody: 12:13pm On Dec 09, 2018
obailala:

A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person. I would love to see how that case turns out.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is still regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.

From ur context..if that forcing is actually working, we won't have thieves, fornicators, adultrous people around anymore....a lot of people don't really do what their pastors says,the same hell and misfortune is the out come of committing sin...and people still do those things without a single care.....those that give only give because they seem to think it's the reason they have more....not because anyone is forcing anybody by whatever means
419ers are arrested because someone eventually went to report....they didn't get value for weteva the fraudster promised.....
But these people giving keep going back to give for reasons meat known to them . perhaps, until some goes to report a pastor took money from him or her in exchange for something specific, then an arrest can be made...
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by BluntBoy(m): 12:13pm On Dec 09, 2018
VictorRomanov:
Obviously, boy, you don't know what the word coerce means. Look it up in a good dictionary.

They think it is until someone puts a gun to their heads that they are being coerced.

I would have excused him because he is 16 but then, I remembered that at 16, I was already way smarter than this.

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Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by gidjah(m): 12:15pm On Dec 09, 2018
Lexusgs430:


No be me talk am o...... Are you listening to CoolFMNigeria? Freeze don table akpororo matter.....
haba haba haba haba...I DO NOT LISTEN TO Antichrist MY OGA , Generals do not move with Recruits !
Re: Letter To Daddy Freeze — From A 16-Year-Old Boy by BluntBoy(m): 12:16pm On Dec 09, 2018
1StopRudeness:


From ur context..if that forcing is actually working, we won't have thieves, fornicators, adultrous people around anymore....a lot of people don't really do what their pastors says,the same hell and misfortune is the out come of committing sin...and people still do those things without a single care.....those that give only give because they seem to think it's the reason they have more....not because anyone is forcing anybody by whatever means
419ers are arrested because someone eventually went to report....they didn't get value for weteva the fraudster promised.....
But these people giving keep going back to give for reasons meat known to them . perhaps, until some goes to report a pastor took money from him or her in exchange for something specific, then an arrest can be made...

You don't even understand what is being discussed here.

Answer these question, when someone says you won't make heaven if you don't tithe, what is he doing?

If someone says, you will be poor if you don't tithe, what is he doing?

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